Re: [Phono-L] Phono repair in Orange County CA?

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Hi Robert! Been a long time. You might try Pat Jones in Fullerton, he has a 
business called Jones' Mercantile. His number is 949-586-7594. There is also 
Scott Corbett in Ontario, CA. He's a little farther from you, but I would 
highly recommend going to see him because he has an absolutely fantastic 
phonograph museum on his property. His number is 909 - 982 - 9241.
Happy Holidays!
John Robles 
 Original message From: r kruz via Phono-L 
 Date: 12/18/17  7:56 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Antique 
Phonograph List  Cc: r kruz  Subject: Re: 
[Phono-L] Phono repair in Orange County CA? 
thanks for that.  Hes a good choice but unfortunately over 500 miles north of 
me.
Is this list still active?  I havent seen much in the past while.
Thanks again!

On December 18, 2017 at 8:50 PM Ron L'Herault via Phono-L 
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Don’t know where they are in relation to Orange County but have you looked into 
Wyatt’s Musical Americana?     Ron L    From: Phono-L 
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Subject: [Phono-L] Phono repair in Orange County CA?  I have a Triumph.  
Probably broken spring.  Who can repair preferably in Orange County CA?Thanks!
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Re: [Phono-L] Columbia upper belt pulley for BF needed

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Bob, i think i have one. Let me check my parts.
John Robles
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 Date: 8/15/17  8:15 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: 'Antique 
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 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Columbia upper belt pulley for BF 
needed 
I take it you are looking for a wider belt and preferably one with edge or 
several rows of stitching? Ron L From: Phono-L 
[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob Maffit via Phono-L
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 11:35 PM
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Cc: Bob Maffit
Subject: [Phono-L] Columbia upper belt pulley for BF needed Phono folks: I am 
in need of the upper belt pulley for my Columbia BF. I checked with George 
Vollema with no luck. Do any of you know where I can get one, either original 
or repo? Your help is appreciated. Later Bob Maffit

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Re: [Phono-L] Donley Phono Auction - Sat. March 18

[john9ten via Phono-L]

I agree on the spruce horn, it's original.John Robles
 Original message From: Jim Nichol via Phono-L 
 Date: 3/17/17  1:23 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Antique 
Phonograph List  Cc: Jim Nichol , Randy 
Donley  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Donley Phono Auction 
- Sat. March 18 
Just to clarify: There is NO RESERVE on any of my items in the Donley auction. 
Randy Donley called me to say that someone thought I might have placed a 
Reserve, but I did NOT.
Also, I've heard that some people were concerned that the Idelia Spruce horn is 
not original. It is original. And it is correct for the rare Edison Spruce 
horns to have a blonde finish inside, and a dark finish outside. Randy and 
another collector agree with me that this is an original horn.
Jim Nichol

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On Mar 16, 2017, at 3:42 AM, Jim Nichol via Phono-L  
wrote:

Is anyone attending the Donley Music auction on Saturday in Union? You may also 
watch the auction's live online video. And you can bid online right now, 
without having to wait for the auction to start.. To do so, click on "View 
Catalog" at:
http://post.spmailtechn.com/f/a/EXjplv9nVTudVdvposK5bA~~/AABF2wA~/RgRarYb-P0EIACxk0zv26QxXA3NwY1gEAFkGc2hhcmVkYQdoZWxsb181YAw1Mi4zOS41MS4xODRCCgAAflPMWLl_E_BSGGFyY2hpdmVAbWFpbC1hcmNoaXZlLmNvbQlRBABEHWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZG9ubGV5YXVjdGlvbnMuY29tRwJ7fQ~~
You may bid on these items that I am selling:
Edison Idelia - Lot 196Edison Opera - Lot 141Edison Amberola III (Opera 
mechanism) - Lot 327Edison W-19 William and Mary Diamond Disc - Lot 
326Brunswick Japanese Upright Disc Phono with Ultona Head (Edison, Pathe, 
needle) - Lot 328Columbia BF Graphophone - plays regular 4-inch long cylinders, 
and Columbia 6-inch long cylinders - Lot 156Pink Lambert 5-inch Cylinder in 
Original Box - Lot 173Pathe 5-inch Cylinder in Pathe Box - Lot 176Edison 5-inch 
Cylinder in Edison Box - Lot 181Phoenix Brand 5-inch Cylinder (modern) in 
Original Box - Lot 182Edison Suitcase Standard - Lot 336
METAL CYLINDER MOLD FOR BLUE AMBEROL,  and matching cylinder - I’ve never heard 
of another Edison mold for sale - Lot 174Three Metal Master Discs for stamping 
Victor records - Lot 612Edison Speaking Tube - Lot 478Copper Oxidized Edison 
Diamond Disc Reproducer - Lot 479Carbon Arc Lamp - sold as a sunlamp, and 
actually uses an arc from carbon rods, using an internal resistor to limit 
current. Plugs into 120v outlet - Lot 585
Four stunning Reproduction Tinfoil Phonographs:Edison Parlor Tinfoil by Bill 
Ptacek - Lot 221Edison Hardy Tinfoil by Ray Phillips - Lot 222Gillette Tinfoil 
by Neil Maken - Lot 223Edison Parlor by Ray Phillips - Lot 224
To avoid scrolling through hundreds of Lots, take advantage of the “Search 
Catalog” function,  and especially the “Go to Lot” function to jump right to my 
lots.
Good luck!Jim Nichol



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Re: [Phono-L] ITEMS FOR SALE

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Hi Shawn 
Which model Columbia recorder is it? I need the early one for an AT
Thanks
John Robles
 Original message From: Shawn ORourke via Phono-L 
 Date: 2/5/17  1:40 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Antique 
Phonograph List  Cc: Shawn ORourke 
 Subject: [Phono-L] ITEMS FOR SALE 
Folks, 
I have several items for sale. Please contact me directly at 
mshawnorou...@gmail.com with interest. 
Shawn 
ORIGINAL
ZONOPHONE CRANK - $275.00

 

EXCELLENT
VICSONIA REPRODUCER $195.00

 

COOL ORIGINAL
SMALL DEALER NEEDLE BOX FULL! - $15.00

 

ORIGINAL
COLUMBIA RECORDER COMPLETE WITH STYLUS  -
$100

 

EXCELLENT THE
PHONOGRAPH AND HOW TO USE IT REPRINT - $29.00

 

ORIGINAL
SECOND EDITION TINFOIL TO STEREO - $34.00

 

ORIGINAL EAGLE
BIJOU LOCK - $55.00
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Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Yes, he is speedy. I usually have whatever I need within a few days. If you 
order in the morning he can usually get it out the same day. 


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 Original message From: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L 
 Date: 5/2/16  10:03 AM  (GMT-08:00) To: 'Antique 
Phonograph List'  Cc: Ron L'Herault 
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed 
George is an incredible resource and quick too.  I inquired about a spring this 
AM.  It's on its way to me already! Ron L From: Phono-L 
[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of harvey kravitz via Phono-L
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2016 12:34 PM
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Cc: harvey kravitz
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed I think George V's prices are 
reasonable.I have dealt with him for many years, and he has always been square 
with me. He provides a great service that we need.  Without him, how are you 
going to complete that phonograph??Harvey Kravitz From: Grant Kornberg via 
Phono-L 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Cc: Grant Kornberg 
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed I actually think George's 
prices are quite reasonable, all things considered. He consistently provides 
honest, outstanding service, and he invests in a broad range of inventory 
items, despite the fact that he may not be able to turn many of them over for 
months or in certain cases even years. 

-- Grant   -Original Message-
From: John Robles via Phono-L 
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Cc: John Robles 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer neededNot yet. I usually try the 
collector network first.  George has an amazing array of hard-to-find parts, 
and I've purchased many things from him in the past and will again in the 
future, but the prices tend to be high. Of course when you really need 
something, price is less of an object. John From: Ron L'Herault via Phono-L 

To: 'Antique Phonograph List'  
Cc: Ron L'Herault 
Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed Have you asked George Vollema? 
Ron L From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of John 
Robles via Phono-L
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2016 9:11 PM
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Subject: [Phono-L] Model K/S pointer needed Anyone got a pointer for a model K 
or S reproducer? The little pointer that you turn the sapphires with.  Thanks! 
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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Sorry, I was thinking he would respond, he's on this board. 

 Original message 
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Date: 02/01/2016  9:40 AM  (GMT-08:00)
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?


His address would be helpful...



  steve_nor...@msn.com



john9ten via Phono-L wrote:




  Steve medved can assist with this. He's a genius at making correct
  sized links.



  John Robles 




   Original message 

  From: amberola75--- via Phono-L <phono-l@oldcrank.org>

  Date: 02/01/2016 6:08 AM (GMT-08:00)

  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org

  Cc: amberol...@aol.com

  Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?



  Hello Everyone,







I was wondering if there are any printed or "known"
  specifications for the fabrication dimensions of all of the
  different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" hooks that connect the
  diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center
  distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info
  would be helpful as I would like to machine a few small
  fixtures to make them instead of trial and error. 



Thanks,
Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[john9ten via Phono-L]

Steve medved can assist with this. He's a genius at making correct sized links.
John Robles 

 Original message 
From: amberola75--- via Phono-L 
Date: 02/01/2016  6:08 AM  (GMT-08:00)
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Cc: amberol...@aol.com
Subject: [Phono-L]  Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

Hello Everyone,













I was wondering if there are any printed or "known" specifications for the 
fabrication dimensions of all of the different Edison reproducer "S" or "C" 
hooks that connect the diaphragm to the stylus?  Like actual center to center 
distance, radius on the ends, wire diameter, etc.  Any info would be helpful as 
I would like to machine a few small fixtures to make them instead of trial and 
error. 





Thanks,

Jim Reisenweber

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

[john9ten via Phono-L]

The conversion kit for the model b is fairly common, I have one now and had 
another in the past.John Robles 

 Original message 
From: Richard Rubin via Phono-L 
Date: 01/27/2016  3:29 PM  (GMT-08:00)
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Cc: Richard Rubin 
Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Triumph A 2/4 minute conversion kit?

I have heard tell here and there that Edison, and possible some other 
companies, produced 2/4 minute conversion kits for the Triumph model A 
phonograph, but I have never seen one, and I'm not sure I know anyone who has.  
Can anyone out there confirm the existence of such a beast?  If so, have you 
ever seen one for sale, and what did it go for?

Re: [Phono-L] Wendell Moore's Passing

[John9ten]

I believe there is a photo of him inside the book, at least the first volume. 
I'll check and scan.
John robles 

 On Feb 13, 2014, at 9:17 AM, srsel...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I Searched through my piles of photos of my trips to both Sedona and to Ft. 
 Myers to visit Wendell (and I even seem to remember one at the only 
 Orlando show  I attended) but I can't seem to find any. I scanned hundreds of 
 my 
 photos last  year (and probably have 100s more to scan) but none of Wendell. 
 Sorry.
 I really do need to scan more - especially the ones I took at Edison site  
 Pgms in NJ.  
 
 Some of these I've shared before with the group.
 
 Steve
 
 
 In a message dated 2/12/2014 7:55:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 c5...@aol.com writes:
 
 Can  someone post a picture of Wendell? So many of us know collectors by   
 face. It helps us old timers to connect the name to the face. 
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Re: [Phono-L] Another Edison future colletible and heads up for deadline

[John9ten]

Am I the only one for whom this link won't work even though I copied the whole 
thing, excluding the parentheses?
John Robles

 On Dec 26, 2013, at 7:15 AM, srsel...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 _Time  to Stock Up on Incandescent Bulbs Before They Go Out Permanently_ 
 (http://links.heritage.org/hostedemail/email.htm?CID=18246527865ch=5823E15D760
 7E8004A49A6B8776A53D7h=b5053f43c26e6e123298476731c09368ei=WOoHXHpNZ)  
 
 Steve Ramm
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Another Edison Invention - The Bug

[John9ten]

You need to highlight the whole link, copy and paste into your browser. For 
some reason, when people paste links here, the whole link isn't hyperlinked.

 On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:54 PM, harvey kravitz harveykrav...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 The link is no good.
 Harvey Kravitz
 
 
 
 
 
 On Saturday, December 14, 2013 7:53 AM, srsel...@aol.com srsel...@aol.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 From today's Wall Street Journal:
 
 _Who  Coined the Term 'System Bug'? Look to Thomas Edison - WSJ.com_ 
 (http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB100014240527023039325045792526716204121
 80-lMyQjAxMTAzMDEwNDExNDQyWj)  
 
 Steve Ramm
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Re: [Phono-L] Opera like cabinet for A1 mechanism

[John9ten]

Wonder why? He does beautiful work.
John

 On Dec 13, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:
 
 He disregarded Eduardo for some reason.
 
 Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:02:57 -0800
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Opera like cabinet for A1 mechanism
 
 Steve, I know a guy in Peru who builds exact replica Victor VI cabinets and 
 record cabinets, he might do it, but as others have pointed out it may not 
 be cheap. I think it would be less than here for sure, but shipping may take 
 a big bite.  Let me know if you want his info.
 John Robles
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org; 
 phonol...@yahoogroups.com phonol...@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 4:24 PM
 Subject: [Phono-L] Opera like cabinet for A1 mechanism
 
 
 Hello,
 
 Does anyone know a person who could build a cabinet that would fit an A1 
 mechanism so they could have a 2/4 Opera?
 
 Steve
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Amberola III saga on EBay - an update with a twist

[John9ten]

I would report her to ebay as she has broken the sales contract. She agreed to 
sell when she listed it, and by winning the parts you agreed to buy. Ebay is 
specific in these things. 
John Robles

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On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:37 AM, Anil Menon phonomen...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I know this has been an emotional and heated issue for many of us on this 
 board and on the ATM forum. Some of you know that after discussions with Al, 
 George and Rene, I decided to save the Amberola. After several efforts to 
 buy the machine outright and offering and getting rebuffed on a 3,500 dollar 
 offer in my second effort, I decided to go after all 7 items. The seller, 
 Leilani Gillard from Peachland, BC, said to me what she told others on this 
 forum, namely, if you win all items, I will give you the cabinet and 
 everything else that came with the machine. Well, I won 5 of the items, lost 
 the horn to a bidder from Australia, and the lid went unsold. I offered to 
 buy the lid and pay for the rest. The seller came back with a new offer of 
 an additional 500 dollars for the cabinet. I replied firmly no way and 
 asked her to meet her commitment. 
 
 And, well, in the catgegory of a never ending saga, here is a new twist on 
 the Amberoa III. Now, she has come back saying that she is canceling all of 
 the 7 bids and relisting as entire machine...see her principled stance 
 below! What a scream! I guess she wants to get a higher return than what she 
 got...this is adding stupidity on top of greed?
 
 Enjoy the read below:-) Anil 
 
 Dear 
 
 I am going to cancel all the auction you won and realist the machine as one 
 unite. I hope you understand . I already told the guy who won the horn i 
 wasn't going to sell it. I will give you your refund back. I hope you 
 understand i am just doing the right thing. It not about the money now. 
 Regards Lelani
 
 - peachland250
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] The Death of Amberola III SN304

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What a jerk. I've had machines I knew would sell for more in parts, but I just 
can't morally do that.
John Robles

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On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote:

 Well now some of the bits have sold. 
 
 So uncool to break up a perfectly good machine like that. I contacted him 
 further and politely suggested he reconsider, and he responded:
 
 
 
 IF SOMEONE WINS ALL THE AUCTIONS I HAVE ON THIS GRAMOPHONE. THEY WILL GET THE 
 COMPLETE GRAMOPHONE. I WILL NOT PART IT OUT 
 
 - peachland250
 
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 -- Peter
 pjfra...@mac.com
 
 On Mar 21, 2013, at 11:20 PM, Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com wrote:
 
 I contacted the seller today, who is in a relatively remote part of British 
 Columbia, to ask why. The response was that it's easier to ship small parts. 
 
 Jerk. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 -- Peter
 pjfra...@mac.com
 
 On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:55 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
 It is with great sadness that I note the death of a fine and rare example 
 of an Amberola III.  The III wasn't even sick.  It played until the bitter 
 end.  It's death came at the hands of someone on eBay who decided to part 
 it out.  The cabinet, rear inspection door, motor, Diamond A Reproducer, 
 and other parts were drawn and quartered because someone figured they would 
 sell for more than the whole machine.  I believe only about 1,200 of these 
 machines were made.  They are only rarely found in such nice condition as 
 304 was.  We Edison fanatics will miss her.
 
 Best wishes to a very quiet list,
 
 Al
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
 To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Thu, Mar 21, 2013 6:15 pm
 Subject: [Phono-L] For sale square box Combination attachment for Edison 
 Standard Phonograph Model B $27.00
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hello, I have photos, $27.00 includes priority mail shipping in a 7x7x6 
 box.  
 The box is excellent, it does show age the label is brown but all there.  
 It has 
 the smaller box cemented inside with the holder for the Model H reproducer. 
  I 
 have photos if anyone is interested.   I paid $20 or $25 for it years ago, 
 with 
 shipping I will about break even. Steve
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Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block

[John9ten]

It's only been a week, have patience. Steve's always been on the level with me.
John

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On Mar 24, 2013, at 5:09 PM, chuck richards chuc...@all2easy.net wrote:

 I said there is still time to make this right.
 That is not being a dick.
 That is telling it like it is.
 
 Chuck
 
  Original Message 
 From: b...@taney.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Attn: Steve Medved, re: original hinge block
 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:40:28 -0500
 
 Agreed.. I understand you have your differences with Steve, but you
 don't have to be a dick about it.
 Bill 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 24, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Paul Christenzen pic...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 ONE WEEK... come on - Steve's the most honest, reliableand able
 guy I've met in 40 years of collecting - sheesh...give the guy a
 chance to breathe before you try to embarrass him!!
 
 
 chuck richards wrote:
 This is a completely on topic post.
 Sorry for previously mis-posting in Amberola lll topic
 about this.
 
 Steve Medved:
 
 I need for you to honor your agreement to ship to
 me one original hinge block for the reworked Edison
 model H top.
 
 You made this agreement with me one week ago, and have
 not shown any signs so far of honoring it as of yet.
 
 There is still time to fix all of this and to make it
 right.  I will be waiting.
 
 Apologies to the forum for using it this way.
 I wanted one completely properly titled, properly
 on-topic post about this.
 
 Chuck Richards
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Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00

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I got it this time Dave, and just to make sure I get it I am sailing to Nigeria 
to meet him at his winter home.
John Robles

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On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:43 PM, David Dazer dda...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 I have bought it five times already and he still has not sent it to me...
 I am going to have to stop this.
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 
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 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Sun, February 24, 2013 10:29:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00
 
 That same guy has offered to sell this Berliner many times before... could 
 it 
 be a SCAM??? (yes, it could/is)
 
 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:19:19 -0800
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Berliner Gramophone only $350.00
 
 Here's another great eBay deal, get it before it is gone! Berliner trademark 
 phonograph for only $350.00 Buy It Now! Ebay item 121072345171. Of course it 
 is 
 
 located in Lithuania, and also he only has 1 feedback rating
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Re: [Phono-L] Crisis of victrola conscience

[John9ten]

Yeah. She lives fairly close, apparently. She seems to know what a bracket and 
elbow are, which makes me wonder if she's gonna turn it into a crapophone to 
resell.
John

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On Feb 7, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:

 A tough call.   Once you sell something it is no longer up to you what
 happens to it.Maybe you should arrange for her to see/hear it if you are
 close enough and try to determine if she hopes to modify the machine or if
 she just doesn't understand what you said.
 
 Ronald L'Herault
 
 Lab Supervisor, Biomaterials Division
 B.U. School of Dental Medicine
 801 Albany Street S203
 Roxbury, MA 02119
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
 Behalf Of john robles
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:33 AM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Crisis of victrola conscience
 
 Hello all
 I have a mahogany Victrola VI for sale on Craigslist. A woman has been
 making serious inquiries on it. Her first question: Does it have a bracket
 and horn? I said no and I explained that Victrolas have the horns on the
 inside behind the doors. She writes back and says A bracket, elbow and horn
 would amplify the sound. Where are you located?. I said that adding those
 items to this machine would make it a fake, something it was never meant to
 be. My dilemma? I want to sell the machine, and I have had very little
 response. She's the first serious one. But I am concerned that if I sell to
 her she will mangle it. After almost
 100 years of life, I don't want to be the one that sells it to Dr
 Frankenstein.
 Or am I just being too sentimental? I've sold lots of phonos in my time, and
 I don't know what happened to them after I sold them. I'd like to hear your
 opinions!
 John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Crisis of victrola conscience

[John9ten]

Yeah Ron! That was a nice machine!
John

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On Feb 7, 2013, at 1:31 PM, Ron rnb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 John,
 
 I still have the Victor III you sold me some (I think) 15 yrs ago!  It's one 
 of my favorite machines.
 
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: john robles
 Sent: 2/7/2013 8:41 AM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Crisis of victrola conscience
 
 Hello all
 I have a mahogany Victrola VI for sale on Craigslist. A woman has been making 
 serious inquiries on it. Her first question: Does it have a bracket and horn? 
 I 
 said no and I explained that Victrolas have the horns on the inside behind 
 the 
 doors. She writes back and says A bracket, elbow and horn would amplify the 
 sound. Where are you located?. I said that adding those items to this 
 machine 
 would make it a fake, something it was never meant to be. My dilemma? I want 
 to 
 sell the machine, and I have had very little response. She's the first 
 serious 
 one. But I am concerned that if I sell to her she will mangle it. After 
 almost 
 100 years of life, I don't want to be the one that sells it to Dr 
 Frankenstein.
 Or am I just being too sentimental? I've sold lots of phonos in my time, and 
 I 
 don't know what happened to them after I sold them. I'd like to hear your 
 opinions!
 John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Royal Purple series

[John9ten]

Yes 28000 is Grand Opera.
John 

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On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:

 
 The 29000 series was in blue at first and runs from 29001 to 29007, I forget 
 what they were called first.  After the first 7 were made they were changed 
 to the Royal Purple series.  Toward the end of production they were made in 
 blue again, I have a photo of 29050 in blue.  
 
 I think the 28000 series is the Grand Opera, but I will have to check to be 
 sure. 
 
 
 Steve the parrot
 
 
 
 From: steve_nor...@msn.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:01:48 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 
 29050 came in blue.
 
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:00:47 -0600
 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 
 Some of the 29,000 series are more maroon than purple. There was less 
 than stingent QA on color.
 
 On 11/27/2012 06:23 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
 
 29001 to 29077 Royal Purple. Some blue amberols are a purple color, I have 
 seen several.
 From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:01:24 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 
 I don't know. It was with some cylinders that came with an Opera from New 
 York. How would I recognize one, since I have never seen one either? What 
 numbers or what type of titles would be on a Royal Purple - classical?
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:12:30 -0800
 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 
 A Royal Purple?
 
 
 --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Vinyl Visionsvinyl.visi...@live.com
 Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.orgphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 5:03 PM
 
 
 Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend 
 said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe 
 him when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. 
 - I haven't seen it yet. Any ideas?
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?

[John9ten]

Ask the number. I've seen royal purples that approach maroon.
John Robles 

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:

 Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend said 
 he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him when 
 he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I haven't 
 seen it yet. Any ideas?
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?

[John9ten]

It would be in the 29000 series.
John Robles 

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:01 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:

 I don't know. It was with some cylinders that came with an Opera from New 
 York. How would I recognize one, since I have never seen one either? What 
 numbers or what type of titles would be on a Royal Purple - classical?
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 14:12:30 -0800
 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 
 A Royal Purple?
 
 
 --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:
 
 
 From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
 Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 5:03 PM
 
 
 Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend 
 said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him 
 when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I 
 haven't seen it yet. Any ideas?
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?

[John9ten]

Those are Royal Purples. There is variance in the shades of purple. 
John Robles

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On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:

 Just found out the titles (2):#29011Freedom for all, foreverMiddleton  
 Chorus#29022Come where love lies dreamingDanny Case  Criterion Quartet
 From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 18:18:55 -0500
 
 
 
 
 Definitely Edison, like blue amberols only maroon in color. They have 5 digit 
 numbers, if that means anything. I'll look at them tomorrow...
 
 From: appywan...@hotmail.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:18:31 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 
 
 Royal Purple?  Lambert?
 
 From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 17:03:32 -0500
 Subject: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?
 
 Is there any significance to a maroon colored Amberol cylinder? A friend 
 said he found one, and since he is a knowledgeable collector, I believe him 
 when he says its unusual and unlike others he has seen over 40 yrs. - I 
 haven't seen it yet. Any ideas?
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Regina (or like) Music Box in Orange Cnty, CA

[John9ten]

Don Henry. He's on this board, or I can give you his email privately.
John Robles

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On Nov 19, 2012, at 10:40 AM, rk...@cox.net wrote:

 My wife wants a Regina or Polyphon type disc player.  I know enough about 
 phonos to buy something online but not music boxes. 
 Do you know of a store or booth or individual in Southern California that we 
 could visit this week that might have Reginas or that type of antique music 
 player for sale?
 
 We appreciate any hints. 
 
 Thank you,
 Robert
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Horn connector for playing an iPod through a cylindermachine

[john9ten]

Depends on your cost. Retail is generally 50-100 percent of cost, so if it were 
6.00 to make, 10.95 to 12.95 wouldn't be unreasonable. Got to figure in 
overhead too. If its a home industry thing, overhead is less than if you had 
them manufactured somewhere. A friend of mine made a microphone for recording 
from a cylinder player, clever device, and sold them for 19.95 I believe it was.
J
-Original Message-
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:59:52 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Horn connector for playing an iPod through a cylinder
 machine


Thanks for the input, John. Is this an item that would sell? If so, what price 
should it be?

 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:02:12 -0800
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Horn connector for playing an iPod through a cylinder  
 machine
 
 Very interesting idea! It's sort of like that miniature Orthophonic horn that 
 Bob Baumbach created for the MP3 player. The player fits into a socket and 
 the music is acoustically amplified through the horn. It is a cool device too!
 John
 
 --- On Mon, 2/14/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:
 
 From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
 Subject: [Phono-L] Horn connector for playing an iPod through a cylinder 
 machine
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 9:32 PM
 
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 
 I need your input to see if this is a viable idea. I made a Tizit for my 
 Edison that allows me to play my iPod or other audio source through my Cygnet 
 horn. It really sounds great and you can play not only Edison mp3's but ANY 
 genre of music. I don't need any more electronic speakers in my house or 
 docking stations, so I thought why not use what I like to look at? Most of us 
 have a cylinder player or two of some type. 
 
 
 It's great when you want to listen to some favorites, but don't want to crank 
 and change cylinders. No mods to the machine are necessary and when you want 
 to go back to original operation, just remove the Tizit and replace it with 
 the original. Is this a viable idea? If so, what price range?
 
 
 
 www.mp3tizit.com
 
 
 Thanks,
 Curt
 
 

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Re: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale

[john9ten]

I'll take the Reginaphone if you give me 4 years to pay.
--Original Message--
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To: phonolist
ReplyTo: phonolist
Subject: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale
Sent: Feb 11, 2011 1:09 PM


Hi All:
A few items going on the chopping block: Victor VI w/wood horn $4900; Edison 
Triumph w/wood cygnet $2700; rare Columbia paneled wood horn, needs work, $500; 
Zonophone Grand Opera rear mount with Green horn, $1800, Edison Spring Motor 
$2800, Early Edison Home w/ banner lid, $500, Reginaphone Model 240 with 
Lionsheads, restored $8200. Thanks. Don Henry   
   
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Re: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale

[john9ten]

And no interest. :-)
John
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 21:12:30 
To: phonolistphono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale

I'll take the Reginaphone if you give me 4 years to pay.
--Original Message--
From: Don Henry  Kelly Peters
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To: phonolist
ReplyTo: phonolist
Subject: [Phono-L] Phonos for sale
Sent: Feb 11, 2011 1:09 PM


Hi All:
A few items going on the chopping block: Victor VI w/wood horn $4900; Edison 
Triumph w/wood cygnet $2700; rare Columbia paneled wood horn, needs work, $500; 
Zonophone Grand Opera rear mount with Green horn, $1800, Edison Spring Motor 
$2800, Early Edison Home w/ banner lid, $500, Reginaphone Model 240 with 
Lionsheads, restored $8200. Thanks. Don Henry   
   
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[Phono-L] Check out Google today!

[john9ten]

If you go to Google.com, the word Google is cleverly spelled out in 
strategically placed patent drawings of Edison's inventions!
Go Google!
John Robles

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Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

[john9ten]

I offered to fix it for a good price since I have extra diamonds etc. Haven't 
heard back.
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From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:12:31 
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

From what I've read, the reproducer is the main issue, right?   Perhaps she
could get a working reproducer on e-bay and then sell the parts she has on
E-bay?

Ron L

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Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 10:22 AM
To: phonolist
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

I'm not sure it is going to be worth it. One of my phono mentors thinks it
probably needs a couple hundred dollars worth of work and she won't get that
back from it in this economy.
Thanks
John
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:00:10 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

WHAT KIND OF WORK
I CAN PASS IT ON TO A FRIEND HERE IN SARASOTA
ZONO

 

 


 

 

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To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:48 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?


Hi all

I have a contact in Florida (near Clearwater and St, Petersburg) who needs
some 

work done on a Diamond Disc phonograph, C-150 Sheraton. Anybody know anyone 

there??

Thanks

John Robles

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Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

[john9ten]

I'm not sure it is going to be worth it. One of my phono mentors thinks it 
probably needs a couple hundred dollars worth of work and she won't get that 
back from it in this economy.
Thanks
John
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

WHAT KIND OF WORK
I CAN PASS IT ON TO A FRIEND HERE IN SARASOTA
ZONO

 

 


 

 

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To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Tue, Feb 8, 2011 10:48 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?


Hi all

I have a contact in Florida (near Clearwater and St, Petersburg) who needs some 

work done on a Diamond Disc phonograph, C-150 Sheraton. Anybody know anyone 

there??

Thanks

John Robles

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Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

[john9ten]

By the condition of the machine overall, I'd say it would need replacement. She 
put it on craigslist at a very cheap price and noone took it.
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From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:38:03 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

I'd only replace the diaphragm if it showed visible signs of damage/warping.
But definitely the gaskets would need replacing.

Ron L

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Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 10:26 AM
To: phonolist
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

Yes. I'd replace the diaphragm and gaskets.
-Original Message-
From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:09:29 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

I'll bet the link between stylus and diaphragm is broken too if the unit is
in two pieces.

Ron L

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Behalf Of john robles
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

Reproducer needs repair (it's in two pieces), cabinet needs refinishing or
at east spiffing up, and grille needs to be replaced (I've sourced that
already), motor needs cleaning and lubrication. She wants to sell it though,
so I don't think she wants to lay out too much money. I recommended she
clean the cabinet and use a beeswax polish to bring out the color, and get
the reproducer fixed. I am guessing the tail spring needs replacing as the
weight is separated from the top housing.
She is located in Newport.
John

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From: Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 9:15 PM

John,

What kind of work has to be done?

Thanks,
Steve
http://www.thetalkingmachineco.com

On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:17 PM, john robles wrote:

 Hi all
 I have a contact in Florida (near Clearwater and St, Petersburg) who needs
some work done on a Diamond Disc phonograph, C-150 Sheraton. Anybody know
anyone there??
 Thanks
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Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

[john9ten]

Yes. I'd replace the diaphragm and gaskets.
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:09:29 
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

I'll bet the link between stylus and diaphragm is broken too if the unit is
in two pieces.

Ron L

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Behalf Of john robles
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 9:53 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?

Reproducer needs repair (it's in two pieces), cabinet needs refinishing or
at east spiffing up, and grille needs to be replaced (I've sourced that
already), motor needs cleaning and lubrication. She wants to sell it though,
so I don't think she wants to lay out too much money. I recommended she
clean the cabinet and use a beeswax polish to bring out the color, and get
the reproducer fixed. I am guessing the tail spring needs replacing as the
weight is separated from the top housing.
She is located in Newport.
John

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From: Steve Andersen ander...@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Florida repair persons?
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 9:15 PM

John,

What kind of work has to be done?

Thanks,
Steve
http://www.thetalkingmachineco.com

On Feb 8, 2011, at 10:17 PM, john robles wrote:

 Hi all
 I have a contact in Florida (near Clearwater and St, Petersburg) who needs
some work done on a Diamond Disc phonograph, C-150 Sheraton. Anybody know
anyone there??
 Thanks
 John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Brain cramp!!!!

[john9ten]

You mean those white Lamberts? Once the pink is all. Scratched off!
John
-Original Message-
From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:20:06 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Brain cramp

So you gonna play those Pink Lamberts on those Amberolas?lol.
I do have a Indestructible reproducer in a box somewhere around the house.4
Min tho'
Mike
oldcranky

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM, rkolba0...@aol.com wrote:

 I'm already old. The 4 minute Indestructibles can be played on an Amberola.
  Only th early 1A or 1B upright Amberolas had the ability to play both 2
 and 4  minute records. The 2 minute Indestructibles will play on any
 machine
 with a 2  minute speed and a 2 minute reproducer. Hope this helps..


 In a message dated 1/31/2011 1:58:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 nickja...@gmail.com writes:

 I should  know this but I can't come up with a confident answer can
 one play  Col/Indestructible celluloid cyls on an Amberola?

 Please don't laugh  too long - you'll be old someday too!!!

 thanks,  Darrell

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Re: [Phono-L] Brain cramp!!!!

[john9ten]

It'll be like vintage hip-hop
john
-Original Message-
From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:44:38 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Brain cramp

You can play 2 min on them. They'll skip a lot.
M

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 1:32 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 You mean those white Lamberts? Once the pink is all. Scratched off!
 John
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com
 Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:20:06
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Brain cramp

 So you gonna play those Pink Lamberts on those Amberolas?lol.
 I do have a Indestructible reproducer in a box somewhere around the house.4
 Min tho'
 Mike
 oldcranky

 On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:14 AM, rkolba0...@aol.com wrote:

  I'm already old. The 4 minute Indestructibles can be played on an
 Amberola.
   Only th early 1A or 1B upright Amberolas had the ability to play both 2
  and 4  minute records. The 2 minute Indestructibles will play on any
  machine
  with a 2  minute speed and a 2 minute reproducer. Hope this helps..
 
 
  In a message dated 1/31/2011 1:58:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
  nickja...@gmail.com writes:
 
  I should  know this but I can't come up with a confident answer can
  one play  Col/Indestructible celluloid cyls on an Amberola?
 
  Please don't laugh  too long - you'll be old someday too!!!
 
  thanks,  Darrell
 
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Re: [Phono-L] MG

[john9ten]

I don't know why you're all talking about cars when the subject should 
obviously be Morning Glory horns! :-P
-Original Message-
From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:52:41 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG

They were interesting engines.  4 cyl tractor engine converted to OHV. 
IIRC the TR-3 was a slightly larger version of a modified tractor motor. 
  And, 3 main bearings in a 5500 rpm engine was a real stroke of 
brilliant engineering.  They were real fun cars though.  You only got 
damp in a rainstorm with the top down as long as you were driving 25 to 
30mph, more than that and the back of your head and the inside of the 
windshield got wet.  Black leather seats and sun

On 01/21/2011 09:26 AM, Mike Stitt wrote:
 I owned a TR 2. Powered with a great Massy Ferguson engine.  A tractor
 powered sports car. Gotta love the English.
 Oldcranky

 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:58 AM,zonophone2...@aol.com  wrote:

 now mine was a tr 2
 a lot lot more power and the same fun stuff


 In a message dated 1/20/2011 6:14:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 rich-m...@octoxol.com writes:

 Don't  forget the ultra scarce TB either.  Those are 19 wire wheels and
 used 4.50/5.00x19 tires.

 On 01/20/2011 05:06 PM, Vinyl Visions  wrote:

  an MG-TD, my ultimate dream car

 I  love them too, but a TA, TC or TF would definitely fill the bill. I
 actually  think I like the built in headlights of the TF better and what
 about
 the large  wire wheels of the TA and TC?

 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011  11:48:43 -0800
 From: majesticrec...@snet.net
 To:  phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New  Phonogram

 Well, if you're going to drag in the MG  jokes...

 Q. Why do people in England drink their beer  warm?

 A. Because their refrigerators are powered by  Lucas.


 Boy, would I love to have an MG-TD,  my ultimate dream car. Perhaps
 after I find
 that large collection  of E condition Robert Johnson Vocalions, Son
 House
 Paramounts,  etc.

   Glenn




 From:  Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph  Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011  2:24:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New  Phonogram

 If there is no puddle of oil under the  machine then it is out of oil
 and
 you need to add some. 1938 MG-TA  leaked like a sieve.

 On 01/20/2011 01:08 PM, Greg  Bogantz wrote:
 Well, the English must have eventually figgered  it out. As a biker and
 with a brother who still owns a 1970  Norton Commando, I know what
 you're
 saying. When I was in the  engineering lab at RCA Records, we purchased
 from England an  EMI record testing machine that contained a Garrard
 401
   turntable, sometime in the late 1970s. I took the tester apart to
 check
 on something (which wasn't working, of course) and just  busted out
 laughing when I spied a puddle of oil underneath  the platter bearing,
 pooled on the bottom pan of the cabinet.  Yep, it's English all right.
 I
 called all my biker buddies  over to have a look at it, and we all had
 a
 good laugh over  it.

 Greg  Bogantz



 -  Original Message - From: William  Zucca
 rochr...@gmail.com
 To: Antique Phonograph  Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 20,  2011 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New  Phonogram


 Did you hear the one  about why there was never a successful phonograph
 industry in  England?

 (answer:) Because they couldn't  figure out how to make the machines
 break
 down and start  leaking oil every
   week.

 Ha  Ha,
 GrnMountain Bill

 On Thu,  Jan 20, 2011 at 12:32 PM,john9...@pacbell.netwrote:

 Did you hear about the dyslexic  anorexic? She never thought she was
 fat
   enough.
 -Original Message-
   From: Tom Jordantom...@msn.com
 Sender:  phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011  11:25:25
 To: 'Antique Phonograph  List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Reply-To: Antique  Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] New Phonogram

 I can't help  it! :0) Did you hear about the dyslexic atheist? He laid
   awake at night wondering Is there a  dog?

 -Original  Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On Behalf Of Peter  Fraser
 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:00  AM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

   Dog is my copilot!

 Sent from my  iPhone

 -- Peter
   pjfra...@mac.com

 On Jan 20, 2011, at  2:48 AM, john roblesjohn9...@pacbell.net
 wrote:

 No rush..my god passed away  and left me with $1600 in vet bills...my
 phono purchases  have sort of taken a downturn for the moment...
   Thanks
   John

 --- On Wed, 1/19/11, D P  Ingramdar...@ingram.fiwrote:

 From: D P  Ingramdar...@ingram.fi
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L]  New Phonogram
 To: Antique Phonograph  Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: 

Re: [Phono-L] MG

[john9ten]

They do if you use them to change oil!
-Original Message-
From: Rich rich-m...@octoxol.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:20:12 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG

Horns don't leak oil on your floor.

On 01/21/2011 10:51 AM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:
 I don't know why you're all talking about cars when the subject should 
 obviously be Morning Glory horns! :-P
 -Original Message-
 From: Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 09:52:41
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Reply-To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] MG

 They were interesting engines.  4 cyl tractor engine converted to OHV.
 IIRC the TR-3 was a slightly larger version of a modified tractor motor.
And, 3 main bearings in a 5500 rpm engine was a real stroke of
 brilliant engineering.  They were real fun cars though.  You only got
 damp in a rainstorm with the top down as long as you were driving 25 to
 30mph, more than that and the back of your head and the inside of the
 windshield got wet.  Black leather seats and sun

 On 01/21/2011 09:26 AM, Mike Stitt wrote:
 I owned a TR 2. Powered with a great Massy Ferguson engine.  A tractor
 powered sports car. Gotta love the English.
 Oldcranky

 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:58 AM,zonophone2...@aol.com   wrote:

 now mine was a tr 2
 a lot lot more power and the same fun stuff


 In a message dated 1/20/2011 6:14:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 rich-m...@octoxol.com writes:

 Don't  forget the ultra scarce TB either.  Those are 19 wire wheels and
 used 4.50/5.00x19 tires.

 On 01/20/2011 05:06 PM, Vinyl Visions  wrote:

  an MG-TD, my ultimate dream car

 I  love them too, but a TA, TC or TF would definitely fill the bill. I
 actually  think I like the built in headlights of the TF better and what
 about
 the large  wire wheels of the TA and TC?

 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011  11:48:43 -0800
 From: majesticrec...@snet.net
 To:  phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New  Phonogram

 Well, if you're going to drag in the MG  jokes...

 Q. Why do people in England drink their beer  warm?

 A. Because their refrigerators are powered by  Lucas.


 Boy, would I love to have an MG-TD,  my ultimate dream car. Perhaps
 after I find
 that large collection  of E condition Robert Johnson Vocalions, Son
 House
 Paramounts,  etc.

Glenn




 From:  Richrich-m...@octoxol.com
 To: Antique Phonograph  Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011  2:24:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New  Phonogram

 If there is no puddle of oil under the  machine then it is out of oil
 and
 you need to add some. 1938 MG-TA  leaked like a sieve.

 On 01/20/2011 01:08 PM, Greg  Bogantz wrote:
 Well, the English must have eventually figgered  it out. As a biker and
 with a brother who still owns a 1970  Norton Commando, I know what
 you're
 saying. When I was in the  engineering lab at RCA Records, we purchased
 from England an  EMI record testing machine that contained a Garrard
 401
turntable, sometime in the late 1970s. I took the tester apart to
 check
 on something (which wasn't working, of course) and just  busted out
 laughing when I spied a puddle of oil underneath  the platter bearing,
 pooled on the bottom pan of the cabinet.  Yep, it's English all right.
 I
 called all my biker buddies  over to have a look at it, and we all had
 a
 good laugh over  it.

 Greg  Bogantz



 -  Original Message - From: William  Zucca
 rochr...@gmail.com
 To: Antique Phonograph  Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Thursday, January 20,  2011 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New  Phonogram


 Did you hear the one  about why there was never a successful phonograph
 industry in  England?

 (answer:) Because they couldn't  figure out how to make the machines
 break
 down and start  leaking oil every
week.

 Ha  Ha,
 GrnMountain Bill

 On Thu,  Jan 20, 2011 at 12:32 PM,john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Did you hear about the dyslexic  anorexic? She never thought she was
 fat
enough.
 -Original Message-
From: Tom Jordantom...@msn.com
 Sender:  phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011  11:25:25
 To: 'Antique Phonograph  List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Reply-To: Antique  Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re:  [Phono-L] New Phonogram

 I can't help  it! :0) Did you hear about the dyslexic atheist? He laid
awake at night wondering Is there a  dog?

 -Original  Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On Behalf Of Peter  Fraser
 Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:00  AM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

Dog is my copilot!

 Sent from my  iPhone

 -- Peter
pjfra...@mac.com

 On Jan 20, 2011, 

Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

[john9ten]

Oops!! My DOG passed away!!!
Thanks peter. God's bill woulda cost more.
-Original Message-
From: Peter Fraser pjfra...@mac.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:59:32 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

Dog is my copilot!

Sent from my iPhone

-- Peter
pjfra...@mac.com

On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:48 AM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 No rush..my god passed away and left me with $1600 in vet bills...my phono 
 purchases have sort of taken a downturn for the moment...
 Thanks
 John
 
 --- On Wed, 1/19/11, D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi wrote:
 
 From: D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:28 PM
 
 Hi. Still looking. Not found any (duplicates yet) but am sorting out our 
 duplicate holdings so found a lot more other stuff (phono, gram, radio ) :)
 
 Best, Darren
 
 
 ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦
 ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦  www.ingram.fi ¦ 
 ¦ 
 ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi 
 ¦
 ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001
 ¦
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 31 dec 2010, at 19.05, john robles wrote:
 
 Thank you Darren, no hurry.
 John
 
 --- On Fri, 12/31/10, D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi wrote:
 
 From: D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:27 AM
 
 Possibly a couple but I cannot check for a day or two until after the 
 holiday.
 
 Darren
 
 
 ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦
 ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦  www.ingram.fi ¦ 
 ¦ 
 ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi 
 ¦
 ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001
 ¦
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 31 dec 2010, at 14.23, john robles wrote:
 
 Does anyone have copies of the New Phonogram available for sale?? Repros 
 are acceptable.
 Thanks
 John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

[john9ten]

Did you hear about the dyslexic anorexic? She never thought she was fat enough.
-Original Message-
From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:25:25 
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

I can't help it! :0)  Did you hear about the dyslexic atheist?  He laid awake 
at night wondering Is there a dog?

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On 
Behalf Of Peter Fraser
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:00 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

Dog is my copilot!

Sent from my iPhone

-- Peter
pjfra...@mac.com

On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:48 AM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 No rush..my god passed away and left me with $1600 in vet bills...my phono 
 purchases have sort of taken a downturn for the moment...
 Thanks
 John
 
 --- On Wed, 1/19/11, D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi wrote:
 
 From: D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:28 PM
 
 Hi. Still looking. Not found any (duplicates yet) but am sorting out our 
 duplicate holdings so found a lot more other stuff (phono, gram, radio ) :)
 
 Best, Darren
 
 
 ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦
 ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦  www.ingram.fi ¦ 
 ¦ 
 ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi 
 ¦
 ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001
 ¦
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 31 dec 2010, at 19.05, john robles wrote:
 
 Thank you Darren, no hurry.
 John
 
 --- On Fri, 12/31/10, D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi wrote:
 
 From: D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:27 AM
 
 Possibly a couple but I cannot check for a day or two until after the 
 holiday.
 
 Darren
 
 
 ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦
 ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦  www.ingram.fi ¦ 
 ¦ 
 ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi 
 ¦
 ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001
 ¦
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 31 dec 2010, at 14.23, john robles wrote:
 
 Does anyone have copies of the New Phonogram available for sale?? Repros 
 are acceptable.
 Thanks
 John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

[john9ten]

Agh.
-Original Message-
From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:06:41 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram

Did you hear about dyslexic, agoraphobic-agnostic? Wouldn't leave his room
contemplating the existence of dog...

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:46 AM, William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Did you hear the one about why there was never a successful phonograph
 industry in England?

 (answer:) Because they couldn't figure out how to make the machines break
 down and start leaking oil every week.

 Ha Ha,
 GrnMountain Bill

 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:32 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

  Did you hear about the dyslexic anorexic? She never thought she was fat
  enough.
  -Original Message-
  From: Tom Jordan tom...@msn.com
  Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
  Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:25:25
  To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
 
  I can't help it! :0)  Did you hear about the dyslexic atheist?  He laid
  awake at night wondering Is there a dog?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
  On Behalf Of Peter Fraser
  Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:00 AM
  To: Antique Phonograph List
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
 
  Dog is my copilot!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  -- Peter
  pjfra...@mac.com
 
  On Jan 20, 2011, at 2:48 AM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:
 
   No rush..my god passed away and left me with $1600 in vet bills...my
  phono purchases have sort of taken a downturn for the moment...
   Thanks
   John
  
   --- On Wed, 1/19/11, D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi wrote:
  
   From: D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
   To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2011, 9:28 PM
  
   Hi. Still looking. Not found any (duplicates yet) but am sorting out
 our
  duplicate holdings so found a lot more other stuff (phono, gram, radio )
 :)
  
   Best, Darren
  
  
   ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦
   ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦  www.ingram.fi ¦
   ¦
   ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi
   ¦
   ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001
   ¦
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On 31 dec 2010, at 19.05, john robles wrote:
  
   Thank you Darren, no hurry.
   John
  
   --- On Fri, 12/31/10, D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi wrote:
  
   From: D P Ingram dar...@ingram.fi
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Phonogram
   To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: Friday, December 31, 2010, 8:27 AM
  
   Possibly a couple but I cannot check for a day or two until after the
  holiday.
  
   Darren
  
  
   ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦
   ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦  www.ingram.fi ¦
   ¦
   ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi
   ¦
   ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001
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   On 31 dec 2010, at 14.23, john robles wrote:
  
   Does anyone have copies of the New Phonogram available for sale??
  Repros are acceptable.
   Thanks
   John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay

[john9ten]

I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by it. 
I might sell it too.
John
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay


It was Ben Selvin on Vocalion...
 
 From: jim...@earthlink.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:18:36 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
 
 My favorite record of The Charleston is that by the Golden Gate Orchestra
 on Edison diamond disc - Adrian Rollini's bass sax solo is marvelous.
 
 Jim Cartwright
 Immortal Performances, Inc.
 
 jim...@earthlink.net
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net
  To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: 19-Jan-2011 12:43:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
 
  I missed a lot of the messages about the Charleston record. was really
  cxurious, too. Could somebody fill me in on which performance/artist (and
  possibly label) that was? I've had one on Brunswick for a long time, and
  feel that it must be about as authentic an arrangement as ever there was.
  Nice record. 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
   [Original Message]
   From: john9...@pacbell.net
   To: phonolist phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: 1/18/2011 11:32:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
  
   Yeah, I was expecting maybe $40 to $50...
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   Hey John, congratulations - that was a home run...
   Curt 
   
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay

[john9ten]

I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by it. 
I might sell it too.
John
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It was Ben Selvin on Vocalion...
 
 From: jim...@earthlink.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:18:36 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
 
 My favorite record of The Charleston is that by the Golden Gate Orchestra
 on Edison diamond disc - Adrian Rollini's bass sax solo is marvelous.
 
 Jim Cartwright
 Immortal Performances, Inc.
 
 jim...@earthlink.net
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net
  To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: 19-Jan-2011 12:43:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
 
  I missed a lot of the messages about the Charleston record. was really
  cxurious, too. Could somebody fill me in on which performance/artist (and
  possibly label) that was? I've had one on Brunswick for a long time, and
  feel that it must be about as authentic an arrangement as ever there was.
  Nice record. 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
   [Original Message]
   From: john9...@pacbell.net
   To: phonolist phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: 1/18/2011 11:32:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
  
   Yeah, I was expecting maybe $40 to $50...
   --Original Message--
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   Sent: Jan 18, 2011 7:25 PM
  
  
  
   Hey John, congratulations - that was a home run...
   Curt 
   
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay

[john9ten]

Sorry, my phone went haywire.
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I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by it. 
I might sell it too.
John
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay


It was Ben Selvin on Vocalion...
 
 From: jim...@earthlink.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:18:36 -0600
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
 
 My favorite record of The Charleston is that by the Golden Gate Orchestra
 on Edison diamond disc - Adrian Rollini's bass sax solo is marvelous.
 
 Jim Cartwright
 Immortal Performances, Inc.
 
 jim...@earthlink.net
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net
  To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: 19-Jan-2011 12:43:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
 
  I missed a lot of the messages about the Charleston record. was really
  cxurious, too. Could somebody fill me in on which performance/artist (and
  possibly label) that was? I've had one on Brunswick for a long time, and
  feel that it must be about as authentic an arrangement as ever there was.
  Nice record. 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
   [Original Message]
   From: john9...@pacbell.net
   To: phonolist phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: 1/18/2011 11:32:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
  
   Yeah, I was expecting maybe $40 to $50...
   --Original Message--
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   ReplyTo: phonolist
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay
   Sent: Jan 18, 2011 7:25 PM
  
  
  
   Hey John, congratulations - that was a home run...
   Curt 
   
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay

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Wonder if its the Bell name for the California Ramblers..
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http :// www . youtube .com/watch?v=m6dk9s3_3s4 

I have had this version on Bell for quite some time, but I can't find any 
information on the Hollywood Ramblers, could this be a pseudonym for another 
more recognizable 
band ? 

Bruce 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:19:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay 

Personally, I never liked the Whiteman version because of the lame try at 
scat singing. I understand that there is a Whiteman version without vocal, 
but I have never heard it. 

Grnmountain Bill 

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM, john9ten@ pacbell .net wrote: 

 I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by 
 it. I might sell it too. 
 John 
 --Original Message-- 
 From: jimcip @ earthlink .net 
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 To: phonolist 
 ReplyTo : phonolist 
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay 
 Sent: Jan 19, 2011 11:18 AM 
 
 My favorite record of The Charleston is that by the Golden Gate Orchestra 
 on Edison diamond disc - Adrian Rollini's bass sax solo is marvelous. 
 
 Jim Cartwright 
 Immortal Performances, Inc. 
 
 jimcip @ earthlink .net 
 
 
  [Original Message] 
  From: Douglas Houston cdh041@ earthlink .net 
  To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org 
  Date: 19-Jan-2011 12:43:43 PM 
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay 
  
  I missed a lot of the messages about the Charleston record. was really 
  cxurious , too. Could somebody fill me in on which performance/artist (and 
  possibly label) that was? I've had one on Brunswick for a long time, and 
  feel that it must be about as authentic an arrangement as ever there was. 
  Nice record. 
  
  Thanks. 
  
  
   [Original Message] 
   From: john9ten@ pacbell .net 
   To: phonolist phono-l@ oldcrank .org 
   Date: 1/18/2011 11:32:30 PM 
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Charleston Record on eBay 
   
   Yeah, I was expecting maybe $40 to $50... 
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   Hey John, congratulations - that was a home run... 
   Curt 
   
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Re: [Phono-L] Charleston by Whiteman's O

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That attempt at scat just made me embarrassed for him!
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Subject: [Phono-L] Charleston by Whiteman's O

 The same voice made a four syllable reappearance on Charlestonette, 4 months 
later. I assume he was a band member.

 Here's Charleston, take 5, which has no vocal effects.  There are a couple of 
overmodulated moments, so maybe that's why 
this take wasn't used.

http://www.box.net/shared/m8niz5c5ml



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From: john9...@pacbell.net


 Yeah that is actually funny!
 -Original Message-
 From: William Zucca rochr...@gmail.com

 Personally, I never liked the Whiteman version because of the lame try at
 scat singing.  I understand that there is a Whiteman version without vocal,
 but I have never heard it.

 Grnmountain Bill

 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:38 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I still have a copy of the Whiteman version but I am not that impressed by
 it. I might sell it too.

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Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...

[john9ten]

John9ten
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What is your eBay user name?
 
 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 08:45:12 -0800
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...
 
 I just listed the Charleston on ebay yesterday and it is at $20 already. A 
 lot of others like it too. Of course the song is popular, but this version is 
 extremely '20s jazzy'.
 My taste is pretty eclectic. Some collect to get great numbers of records, I 
 collect pretty much only what I like. I buy some things for resale too of 
 course, but if a record is rare and I don't care for the music, I won't keep 
 it just for the rarity issue.
 John
 
 --- On Sun, 1/16/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:
 
 From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 8:13 AM
 
 
 Not bad... your taste in music is similar to mine, according to the titles 
 you mentioned. I like 20's blues and jazz - Ben Selvin is one of my favorites.
 
  Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 00:35:35 -0800
  From: john9...@pacbell.net
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...
  
  There was Mamie Smith singing Crazy Blues..Ben Selvin on Vocalion playing 
  the Charleston, and Sousa's Band playing Maple Leaf Rag...ummm...there are 
  a lot of others I haven't gone through yet. I am sure there'll be some nice 
  stuff. There were 15 boxes, about 300 records or so. I also bought 33 
  Diamond Discs, nothing spectacular but all in very good condition. nicer 
  than most I have seen. Also bought 147 cylinder records, both 2 and 4 
  minute. no 5000s though.
  John
  
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  From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 7:38 PM
  
  
  I forgot to ask: did you get any good records?
  
   From: vinyl.visi...@live.com
   To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:05:13 -0500
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Travesty...
   
   
   Nothing like some steel wool and maybe a little cleanser to really bring 
   out the shine in gold leaf... :)
   
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:58:42 -0800
From: john9...@pacbell.net
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Travesty...

Hey everyone!
I went to buy some records locally that were being sold by the daugher 
of the man that owned them. He passed away 20 years ago and all has 
been in storage. The real story is that she had sold his phonographs a 
few years back, and one was a...well, she said there was this one 
Victrola that was all gold leafed.. I asked if it had paintings on the 
front and sides. She said it did. So it was a Vernis Martin...and she 
sold it to some guy for $7500.00. he flew to LA to see it, and she said 
he was sorta disappointed in the condition on one side because My 
mother tried to clean it with steel wool!! he bought it anyway 
though.
John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

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Not sure..maybe Leipzig or one of the other musical/industrial places.
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Would they have been made in Nuremburg?
 
 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:31:41 -0800
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 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines
 
 The Puck machines were made in Germany, starting with the original lyric 
 design in 1901 and going on to 1914. They were most often giveaways.  The 
 Kastenpucks came along in 1903 and lasted til 1914. They're not often seen 
 here. There were lots sold in England, and American Graphophone imported them 
 at one time.
 John
 
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 Subject: [Phono-L] Puck Machines
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:22 PM
 
 
 
 I am sure that someone out there has some knowledge of Puck machines. I 
 bought one a few years ago that has a bedplate that looks like a bluebird or 
 songbird of some type sitting on a vine. It is built into a wooden case, so I 
 believe that it's called a Kastenpuck or cabinet puck. The real question is 
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Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

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Not sure..maybe Leipzig or one of the other musical/industrial places.
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Would they have been made in Nuremburg?
 
 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:31:41 -0800
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines
 
 The Puck machines were made in Germany, starting with the original lyric 
 design in 1901 and going on to 1914. They were most often giveaways.  The 
 Kastenpucks came along in 1903 and lasted til 1914. They're not often seen 
 here. There were lots sold in England, and American Graphophone imported them 
 at one time.
 John
 
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 From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
 Subject: [Phono-L] Puck Machines
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:22 PM
 
 
 
 I am sure that someone out there has some knowledge of Puck machines. I 
 bought one a few years ago that has a bedplate that looks like a bluebird or 
 songbird of some type sitting on a vine. It is built into a wooden case, so I 
 believe that it's called a Kastenpuck or cabinet puck. The real question is 
 where it was made and when?   
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Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

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Not sure..maybe Leipzig or one of the other musical/industrial places.
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Would they have been made in Nuremburg?
 
 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:31:41 -0800
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines
 
 The Puck machines were made in Germany, starting with the original lyric 
 design in 1901 and going on to 1914. They were most often giveaways.  The 
 Kastenpucks came along in 1903 and lasted til 1914. They're not often seen 
 here. There were lots sold in England, and American Graphophone imported them 
 at one time.
 John
 
 --- On Mon, 1/17/11, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:
 
 From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com
 Subject: [Phono-L] Puck Machines
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Monday, January 17, 2011, 6:22 PM
 
 
 
 I am sure that someone out there has some knowledge of Puck machines. I 
 bought one a few years ago that has a bedplate that looks like a bluebird or 
 songbird of some type sitting on a vine. It is built into a wooden case, so I 
 believe that it's called a Kastenpuck or cabinet puck. The real question is 
 where it was made and when?   
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Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)

[john9ten]

Get an extra one for me and I'll give you an extra $50 for your trouble. :-P
John Robles
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Before eBay hid the buyers ID I bid on an Alva to see the final price and get 
photos.  A man wrote and told me he had a number of Alvas in stock and would be 
happy to sell me one for $1500.
 
 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:20:25 -0800
 From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
 
 I suspect the motor doesn't exist, thus I'd never get it.  He keeps avoiding 
 my request for a picture to validate whether it is a correct one.  It seems 
 there are scammers scouring the various boards on the net including 
 phonograph forums.  I prefer to keep to those I am familar with.
  
 Ron
 
 --- On Fri, 1/14/11, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote:
 
 
 From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
 To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Friday, January 14, 2011, 1:49 PM
 
 
 Did you ever get the motor?  Is it different from the usual spring motors
 for Victors of that period?
 
 Ron L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
 Behalf Of hexaph...@sbcglobal.net
 Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 1:56 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: [Phono-L] Potential Fraud - Beware (?)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Hi all.  On one of the phonograph forums I had a Wanted notice indicating
 I was looking for a Victrola Orthophonic 8-9 motor.  I received a response
 from a Brian Kidd.  His email is bra...@blumail.org . This one has all the
 red flags waving.  He keeps spelling his own name incorrectly for one.  He
 is located in Italy and wants a money gram or western union payment and his
 pricing is way out of line i.e. not even reasonable.  He wanted 690 euro or
 more than $900 for a motor of which, of course, he had  in stock.  Playing
 along, I asked for pictures.  None have been provided (surprise).  Anyone
 else familar with this individual?  I would assume he is responding to other
 people looking for items.  Just for a final amusement, I sent him an email
 stating I would most certainly send a western union for the full amount once
 I received the product.  I am waiting for my reply.  Beware.
  
 Ron
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[Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

[john9ten]

Hi folks
If anyone is interested, I am offering a very fine BA of Social and Industrial 
Justice by Theodore Roosevelt and a 2 minute copy of The Farmer and the 
Republican Party by William H. Taft for sale here before they go to eBay.
The Roosevelt I am asking $100 for, and the Taft $85. The Taft seems to be more 
scarce then the Roosevelt.
I also have a 2 min Columbia of President McKinley's Address at the Panama 
Exposition by Len Spencer for $50. I have never seem this cylinder before.
Thanks!
John Robles

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Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

[john9ten]

It is inscribed, but I will double check the wording when I get home at lunch.
-Original Message-
From: allena...@aol.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:15:57 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

 
In a message dated 1/11/2011 12:09:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
john9...@pacbell.net writes:

I also  have a 2 min Columbia of President McKinley's Address at the Panama 
Exposition  by Len Spencer 


--
Hi,
 
   is this title inscribed on the cylinder or obtained from the  spoken 
announcement?
Are you sure of Panama?
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

[john9ten]

Yeah that's probably it!!
--Original Message--
From: allena...@aol.com
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s
Sent: Jan 11, 2011 10:04 AM

 
In a message dated 1/11/2011 12:23:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
john9...@pacbell.net writes:

It is  inscribed, but I will double check the wording ('Panama') when I get 
home  at lunch.
-Original Message-


doing some mind-reading here, how about:
 
  Pan-American exposition (1901)
 
Allen
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

[john9ten]

Hi Art
It sold earlier. The Roosevelt cylinder is all that's left.
Thanks
John
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s
Sent: Jan 11, 2011 3:41 PM

Hi John,
I would love the Taft cylinder at your price.
Let me know.
Art Heller  aph4...@aol.com
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Re: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay?

[john9ten]

It's been quiet.
--Original Message--
From: Jeffry Young, D.O.
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
To: Antique Phonograph List
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay?
Sent: Jan 7, 2011 1:59 PM

Haven't gotten anything since 01/02/2011. Is it my e-mail program at
work, or is it Phono-L?

Thanks,
Jeff
Wisconsin
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Re: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay? - Dues?

[john9ten]

I must admit I missed it..
-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Young, D.O. jeff...@prevea.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:24:47 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay? - Dues?

I must have missed an important e-mail! If there are now dues to
continue to be included, I guess I need this new information. Perhaps I
am not the only one that does not know about this? Man do I feel dumb!

Jeff
Wisconsin 

-Original Message-
From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
On Behalf Of Mike Stitt
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:19 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay?

I paid Loran my dues thru' paypal. He is offering a free preview Jan 6
thru'
the tenth.
grin I won't repeat any emails posted. I hope no one gets a sore leg
from
this.
Oldcranky
Mike

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:00 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 It's been quiet.
 --Original Message--
 From: Jeffry Young, D.O.
 Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay?
 Sent: Jan 7, 2011 1:59 PM

 Haven't gotten anything since 01/02/2011. Is it my e-mail program at
 work, or is it Phono-L?

 Thanks,
 Jeff
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Re: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay? - Dues?

[john9ten]

You rat!! Good one!!
-Original Message-
From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 14:27:29 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay? - Dues?

Jeffery,
I'm pulling everybodies leg Just been quiet that's all. Good luck on the
R, they are nice machines.
Mike

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jeffry Young, D.O. jeff...@prevea.comwrote:

 I must have missed an important e-mail! If there are now dues to
 continue to be included, I guess I need this new information. Perhaps I
 am not the only one that does not know about this? Man do I feel dumb!

 Jeff
 Wisconsin

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On Behalf Of Mike Stitt
 Sent: Friday, January 07, 2011 4:19 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay?

 I paid Loran my dues thru' paypal. He is offering a free preview Jan 6
 thru'
 the tenth.
 grin I won't repeat any emails posted. I hope no one gets a sore leg
 from
 this.
 Oldcranky
 Mike

 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:00 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

  It's been quiet.
  --Original Message--
  From: Jeffry Young, D.O.
  Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
  To: Antique Phonograph List
  ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
  Subject: [Phono-L] Is Phono-L okay?
  Sent: Jan 7, 2011 1:59 PM
 
  Haven't gotten anything since 01/02/2011. Is it my e-mail program at
  work, or is it Phono-L?
 
  Thanks,
  Jeff
  Wisconsin
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Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic

[john9ten]

I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object!
Thanks
John
--Original Message--
From: Barry Kasindorf
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
To: Antique Phonograph List
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM

Hi,
I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin 
printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not.

I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. 
It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills.
-Barry
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Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)

[john9ten]

Come to think of it, a friend of mine sent him a check that was never cashed 
too. Maybe just publish the stuff. Its ancient anyhow.
-Original Message-
From: bruce78...@comcast.net
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:27:02 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)

What ever happened to Mr. Bryan? I remember getting a letter from him about 7 
or 8 years ago, saying that he was going to get his act together, start up the 
Graphic and promised to get it out on time. I sent him the money for the 
subscription, but the check was never ever cashed and the Graphic was never 
published again, and he just dissapeared from sight. Does anyone know what 
became of him and his promise to start up the NAG again ? Why didn't it happen? 
Why didn't he at least send out a notice to all of his loyal following, 
explaining what happened and why it never took place. It was just very odd. 
Very Very Odd. 

Bruce 
- Original Message - 
From: john9...@pacbell.net 
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:05:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic 

I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object! 
Thanks 
John 
--Original Message-- 
From: Barry Kasindorf 
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org 
To: Antique Phonograph List 
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List 
Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic 
Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM 

Hi, 
I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin 
printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not. 

I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest. 
It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills. 
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Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)

[john9ten]

Wish I had all the APMs...
-Original Message-
From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:23:15 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)

I really think it was a true love of labor for Martin. The magazine was a
bargain as was most everything he sold. Like many things they come and go.
Very hard work. Tim Gracyk  was a pioneer as well. Allen K too. I have all
of the APM's NAGs and a great deal of Tim's work. I am grateful they did
what they did and yes Allen and Tim utilize the internet.  Thank you all and
all the others too. The list is long.
Mike
Oldcranky


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 Come to think of it, a friend of mine sent him a check that was never
 cashed too. Maybe just publish the stuff. Its ancient anyhow.
 -Original Message-
 From: bruce78...@comcast.net
 Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 20:27:02
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic (What happened to Martin)

 What ever happened to Mr. Bryan? I remember getting a letter from him about
 7 or 8 years ago, saying that he was going to get his act together, start up
 the Graphic and promised to get it out on time. I sent him the money for the
 subscription, but the check was never ever cashed and the Graphic was never
 published again, and he just dissapeared from sight. Does anyone know what
 became of him and his promise to start up the NAG again ? Why didn't it
 happen? Why didn't he at least send out a notice to all of his loyal
 following, explaining what happened and why it never took place. It was just
 very odd. Very Very Odd.

 Bruce
 - Original Message -
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 3:05:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic

 I'd appreciate the effort, Barry! Just make sure Martin doesn't object!
 Thanks
 John
 --Original Message--
 From: Barry Kasindorf
 Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: [Phono-L] New Amberola Graphic
 Sent: Dec 23, 2010 11:55 AM

 Hi,
 I subscribed to this a long time ago and have most of the issues Martin
 printed. I am not sure if he will ever make anymore but I assume not.

 I can scan them and make them available online if there is any interest.
 It will take a while to locate them and I may need a few fills.
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Re: [Phono-L] Bidding on same records- (was Once upon a time)

[john9ten]

Great idea!
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Back back...@yahoo.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:00:15 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Bidding on same records- (was Once upon a time)

But I had to stop bidding on record auctions because I kept winning the 
same records over and over again. Did it again 2 weeks ago.


I solved this problem by starting and keeping a data base of what I bought.  
With records, I list title and number.  If I see something I might want in an 
auction, I just do a control F and it will find (or not find) the item in my 
data base.  

I know it's hard to go BACK and enter all your records and cylinders, but you 
can start now with new acquisitions.  And you can keep a wanted list on the 
data base, too. When you find that item, just delete the word wanted and 
replace it with the date bought and price paid and then save it. .  

Works for me.

Dennis 



  
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Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,

[john9ten]

I understood. But finding a long laid away phono is like finding a new one :-)
John
-Original Message-
From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:41:33 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,

 Well, find wasn't quite accurate - I should have said rediscovered a 
Standard that I paid for, 10 years ago .  Good 
thing the seller was honest - he/she (I forget) could have sent bricks and I 
wouldn't have known until now!  Also knew how 
to protect a horn - it was very carefully packed and has nary a dent.


- Original Message - 
From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net


Wow, what a nice surprise! Wish I could find a Standard in my attic...

--- On Sun, 12/12/10, DanKj ediso...@verizon.net wrote:

From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net
 Also found an Edison Standard, matching horn, and cylinders in 2 unopened 
cartons! No idea why I shoved them into 
storage without checking inside, first.


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Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,

[john9ten]

Then give them to me, that'll give you the Christmas spirit! :-P
John
-Original Message-
From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:44:02 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,

 Going through boxes of records which haven't been seen since buying them is 
just like Christmas morning!   I have this? 
ooo, and this? wow, and these! 
Discovering that I already had a record, but forgot  paid good money for 
another copy - not as much fun as Xmas ... it's 
more like Tax Return day.


- Original Message - 
From: john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,


I understood. But finding a long laid away phono is like finding a new one :-)
 John
 -Original Message-
 From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net
 Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:41:33
 To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
 Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,

 Well, find wasn't quite accurate - I should have said rediscovered a 
 Standard that I paid for, 10 years ago .  Good
 thing the seller was honest - he/she (I forget) could have sent bricks and I 
 wouldn't have known until now!  Also knew how
 to protect a horn - it was very carefully packed and has nary a dent.
\ 

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Re: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name was/Frankenreproducer alert

[john9ten]

Arrgh!!! Sounds like the basis for a reality show!
That is a similar dealing to one I had with him years ago. One bad deal with a 
nasty guy like that totally brands him forever with me.
John
-Original Message-
From: Don Henry phonowo...@hotmail.com
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 14:49:07 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name was/
 Frankenreproducer alert


Hello fellow phono enthusiasts. I have been reading the exchange on the ebay 
seller known as ANTIQUE EDISON. His name is John Marinacci. I had the 
misfortune of purchasing a Victor VI from him off of Ebay about 2 years ago.  
For those of you who would like brave the following email exchange between Mr 
Marinacci and me, I am sure you will find it most enlightening... INITIAL 
EMAIL: Hi John:I received the Victor VI today. Thank you for the secure 
packaging. It arrived safely. However,  I am concerned about the overall 
condition of the machine . If you remember, I asked you specifically if the 
horn had been patched and you said no. Unfortunately, there are at least 5 
areas on the horn that have been patched and are easily noticeable. Also, the 
finish is splotchy and uneven.Secondly, the machine itself has several glaring 
problems. You had indicated that all of the gold hardware had been replated. In 
fact, everything but the elbow, crank and the corner posts are just polished 
brass. The additional gold plating required will be very expensive. Secondly, 
there is a 9 crack on the crank hole side of the case which has obviously been 
there since before it was refinished. Also, the finish is very dark and muddy. 
The backside of the machine actually has bubbled up veneer and will have to be 
removed and reglued.Long story short, this machine is a far cry from the one 
described in your auction as show condition.I would appreciate it if you 
would contact me regarding the machine as soon as possible. Thank you,Don Henry 
RESPONSE:Hi DonSorry you are not pleased with it I bought it off the Internet 
about a yr.ago and that is how it was described. even more in a plus 
description. I know as I stated that you can always look for things I did as 
well but I did think it was well Good enough to keep for resale laterI have 
been in many auctions to see a number of these and as I stated to me it look 
like a keeper. If you want you may return it. Sorry I wish I could wheel and 
deal with you on it but I paid $100.00 less than you did. All I can say is that 
the price that was paid in my opinion was fair it is by far not a piece of 
junk.HERE IS THE REST OF THE SAGA… DH: I never said the machine was a piece of 
junk. It is simply not the machine I thought I was buying based on your 
description and the answers to that you provided to my specific and detailed 
questions. So, yes, I would like to return it. Thank you. I will pay return 
shipping. I assume you will refund the full price of $5350? Thank you.JM: Let 
me say that If you read my Return policy there is a 15% restocking fee also 
there is noway anyone will return $ 100.00 Shipping  handling:the description 
of this was as honest as one could be.you look at it as it was not restored or 
replated I look at it as it was.you are always allowed to disagree and I do 
refund policy because of this. thank you DH: As much as I would love for you 
make $750 on a misrepresented machine, I feel that the machine is in NO WAY 
what you described. SHOW CONDITION would generally imply that the case did not 
have a 9 CRACK in it and that the horn was not PUTTIED up with INFERIOR 
PATCHES. I was trying to be nice but the truth is you TOTALLY MISREPRESENTED 
THE CONDITION OF THE MACHINE to an extent that is tantamount to fraud.Also, you 
managed to leave your original invoice inside the machine which indicated you 
bought it for $4850... not the $100 less  that you told me, which further 
establishes your willingness to not tell the truth.I will make a case with EBAY 
and pursue all outlets to make sure that this situation is remedied. I cannot 
believe that you are willing to sit here and deny what you explicitly stated in 
your description, which by the way was copied from the previous seller with a 
few convenient omissions.I really hate the fact that you are trying to double 
talk your way out of this. That upsets me even more than the fact that the 
machine is not nearly what you made it out to be.JM: I thought you bought it 
for $ 5,000.00 also there was no crack in the machine when I sent it to you. 
there was no tantamount to fraud.at allin my description if you read it does 
not state it was mint original and on a scale from 1-10 its an 11.it is however 
super condition regardless of the few bumps .that shows it is original not 
repro.you wanted a mint new condition Victor 6 that sells for $ 8500.00 for $ 
5000 ,I told you the best I could what you would get 

Re: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Namewas/ Frankenreproducer alert

[john9ten]

Come on Donny, don't leave us hanging!
John
-Original Message-
From: hexaph...@sbcglobal.net
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:08:07 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name
was/ Frankenreproducer alert

Bummer!  However, whats then ending of this saga?  The suspense is killing 
us.

--- On Fri, 12/10/10, Don Henry phonowo...@hotmail.com wrote:


From: Don Henry phonowo...@hotmail.com
Subject: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name was/ 
Frankenreproducer alert
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 4:49 PM



Hello fellow phono enthusiasts. I have been reading the exchange on the ebay 
seller known as ANTIQUE EDISON. His name is John Marinacci. I had the 
misfortune of purchasing a Victor VI from him off of Ebay about 2 years ago.  
For those of you who would like brave the following email exchange between Mr 
Marinacci and me, I am sure you will find it most enlightening... INITIAL 
EMAIL: Hi John:I received the Victor VI today. Thank you for the secure 
packaging. It arrived safely. However,  I am concerned about the overall 
condition of the machine . If you remember, I asked you specifically if the 
horn had been patched and you said no. Unfortunately, there are at least 5 
areas on the horn that have been patched and are easily noticeable. Also, the 
finish is splotchy and uneven.Secondly, the machine itself has several glaring 
problems. You had indicated that all of the gold hardware had been replated. In 
fact, everything but the elbow, crank and the corner
 posts are just polished brass. The additional gold plating required will be 
very expensive. Secondly, there is a 9 crack on the crank hole side of the 
case which has obviously been there since before it was refinished. Also, the 
finish is very dark and muddy. The backside of the machine actually has bubbled 
up veneer and will have to be removed and reglued.Long story short, this 
machine is a far cry from the one described in your auction as show 
condition.I would appreciate it if you would contact me regarding the machine 
as soon as possible. Thank you,Don Henry RESPONSE:Hi DonSorry you are not 
pleased with it I bought it off the Internet about a yr.ago and that is how it 
was described. even more in a plus description. I know as I stated that you can 
always look for things I did as well but I did think it was well Good enough to 
keep for resale laterI have been in many auctions to see a number of these and 
as I stated to me it look like a keeper. If
 you want you may return it. Sorry I wish I could wheel and deal with you on it 
but I paid $100.00 less than you did. All I can say is that the price that was 
paid in my opinion was fair it is by far not a piece of junk.HERE IS THE REST 
OF THE SAGA… DH: I never said the machine was a piece of junk. It is simply not 
the machine I thought I was buying based on your description and the answers to 
that you provided to my specific and detailed questions. So, yes, I would like 
to return it. Thank you. I will pay return shipping. I assume you will refund 
the full price of $5350? Thank you.JM: Let me say that If you read my Return 
policy there is a 15% restocking fee also there is noway anyone will return $ 
100.00 Shipping  handling:the description of this was as honest as one could 
be.you look at it as it was not restored or replated I look at it as it was.you 
are always allowed to disagree and I do refund policy because of this. thank 
you DH: As much as I
 would love for you make $750 on a misrepresented machine, I feel that the 
machine is in NO WAY what you described. SHOW CONDITION would generally imply 
that the case did not have a 9 CRACK in it and that the horn was not PUTTIED 
up with INFERIOR PATCHES. I was trying to be nice but the truth is you TOTALLY 
MISREPRESENTED THE CONDITION OF THE MACHINE to an extent that is tantamount to 
fraud.Also, you managed to leave your original invoice inside the machine which 
indicated you bought it for $4850... not the $100 less  that you told me, 
which further establishes your willingness to not tell the truth.I will make a 
case with EBAY and pursue all outlets to make sure that this situation is 
remedied. I cannot believe that you are willing to sit here and deny what you 
explicitly stated in your description, which by the way was copied from the 
previous seller with a few convenient omissions.I really hate the fact that you 
are trying to double talk your way
 out of this. That upsets me even more than the fact that the machine is not 
nearly what you made it out to be.JM: I thought you bought it for $ 5,000.00 
also there was no crack in the machine when I sent it to you. there was no 
tantamount to fraud.at allin my description if you read it does not state it 
was mint original and on a scale from 1-10 

Re: [Phono-L] Once upon a time,

[john9ten]

I once let a couple of collectors from Thousand Oaks CA come over and I showed 
them several records, including a pink Lambert that was in an edison box. They 
bought some records, and later I discovered they pulled a switch on me ad stole 
the Lambert. I later discovered they had a shady reputation. I have not heard 
of either one for a long time. Maybe they moved on to new territory where their 
reputation did not precede them..
John Robles 
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So true.  I once opened my home to an out of town collector for a weekend and 
let him run wild in my record archive trusting he would be careful and bring 
things upstairs to play (as he did).  I noticed a couple of months later when 
looking on the shelves for a certain disc that it was gone, later, I discovered 
others were gone as well.  One bad apple

Sean


On Dec 10, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Kurt Nauck wrote:

 I visited the home of a long-time collector in New Jersey. He had passed 
 away, and his sister was handling the estate. She told me that some months 
 earlier, a particular fellow showed up to look at the collection (presumably 
 at her invitation). He was given access to the rooms containing the 
 phonographs and records. He wound up buying some records from her, but when 
 he was loading up, she noticed that he had also helped himself to some other 
 items that were not part of the deal. She confronted him about this obvious 
 theft, he got angry, hopped in his vehicle and took off. She didn't recover 
 the items.
 
 Most of the people associated with this hobby are wonderful folks that you 
 could let loose in your collection while you went grocery shopping. But not 
 all.
 
 Kurt Nauck
 c/o Nauck's Vintage Records
 22004 Sherrod Ln.
 Spring, TX  77389
 
 Website: www.78rpm.com
 E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com
 www.newpledge.org
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Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert

[john9ten]

He used to advertise in the MAPS newsletter. I can almost remember his name but 
not quite :-(
John Robles
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer  alert


Was this the person who called himself Auntie Dodo?  


 
 Whoa. If it's who I'm thinking it is, he's been around for a while - I 
 remember him from the Phonatics AOL list days (way back in the mid-90's). I 
 don't remember his name either, but as I recall, he would use his mother's 
 address on the return labels. He was doing some pretty odd stuff and got 
 booted from the list for it.
 
 Regards,
 Loran
 
 On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:46 PM, hexaph...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
  Hi all!  I'll be be honest and say I have dealt with this individual in the 
  past.  I guess I'll provide a contrarian view to those experiences posted 
  thus far.  I purchased an Edison machine from him and it was packed 
  relatively well.  It could have been better, but all was safe.  The machine 
  was exactly as stated, but came with some extra mounting screws and springs 
  to mount the motor to the motor board, so I'm sure someone got screwed (pun 
  intended). I must agree that he was somehat a rude individual, but not so 
  much that it really bothered me as he shipped very fast and everything was 
  actually great!  I just thought I'd provide another view of just my 
  experience.  I would not necessaril recommend him, but my transcation ended 
  well thankfully after reading these posts.  I do not recall his name, but I 
  looked his phone number up and found the following information for those 
  who wish to dig deeper.
   
  
  Antique Edison
  (412) 257-8926 
  301 Murray Ave 
  Bridgeville, PA 15017 
  antiquedi...@aol.com
  
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer alert

[john9ten]

I had to leave feedback on an item that turned out to be incomplete. The only 
description on it was 'original'. I left the words 'received item' as feedback. 
I should have asked more about it before I bought it...
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:46:28 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Seller's Name was/ Frankenreproducer  alert

Hi Steve ~

The way eBay works, you can't leave a negative feedback AND get  
reimbursed on a bad purchase by eBay's Buyer Protection.  The  
unsatisfactory transaction is technically cancelled as though it never  
happened to begin with.

Even the posting below acknowledges (despite the positives) that the  
item could have been packed better, had additional (incorrectly  
mounted?) hardware, and he agrees that the seller was rude.  And yet,  
he probably left a positive feedback.

I think there must be dozens, if not hundreds of dissatisfied buyers  
who would rather be made whole again financially on their  
misrepresented/badly packed/damaged/modified or incomplete purchase,  
than take a loss and retain the ability to leave negative feedback on  
this seller, and thus warn others away from a potentially miserable  
experience.

I'm ordinarily very careful about saying anything publicly about  
anyone that isn't positive (if you can't say something nice...), but  
based on personal experience, both my own and that of my friend and  
customer, I can only conclude that this seller is dangerous.  He  
certainly doesn't appear to make any effort to play by the same rules.

That's my take on it.

Andy

On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Steven Medved wrote:


 If you look at his ratings they are actually quite good.


 Hi all!  I'll be be honest and say I have dealt with this  
 individual in the past.  I guess I'll provide a contrarian view to  
 those experiences posted thus far.  I purchased an Edison machine  
 from him and it was packed relatively well.  It could have been  
 better, but all was safe.  The machine was exactly as stated, but  
 came with some extra mounting screws and springs to mount the  
 motor to the motor board, so I'm sure someone got screwed (pun  
 intended). I must agree that he was somehat a rude individual, but  
 not so much that it really bothered me as he shipped very fast and  
 everything was actually great!  I just thought I'd provide another  
 view of just my experience.  I would not necessaril recommend him,  
 but my transcation ended well thankfully after reading these  
 posts.  I do not recall his name, but I looked his phone number up  
 and found the following information for those who wish to dig  
 deeper.


 Antique Edison
 (412) 257-8926
 301 Murray Ave
 Bridgeville, PA 15017
 antiquedi...@aol.com


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Re: [Phono-L] What's wrong with this picture?

[john9ten]

Also, the gear cover is gone. This is an Amberola VI A mech..probably screams 
like a banshee!!
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 19:31:50 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What's wrong with this picture?

 I happened to see this last night, and almost choked on my cocoa.  The NEEDLE 
CUPS on a cylinder machine should set off the 
first alarm.
It is an Amberola mechanism shoved into a chopped-down, cheapo disc cabinet. 
Gross-buckets, as they used to say in Bloom 
County.

. Maybe the machinery is worth something,  but who has empty Amberola cabinets 
laying around?  They shoulda stuck it in a 
crate  claimed it's a rare Mission style Amberola IV! (One of which is 
pictured in a Buffalo music shop. I wonder where 
that one went)


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Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What's wrong with this picture?


 On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:23:14 -0800 (PST)
 john robles john9...@pacbell.net said...

 More ebay follies, folks, This is laughable. Number is 250728912186.

 Hello John and all...

 Now I admit I don't know beans about cylinder phonos, or acoustic phonos in 
 general, and I must be particularly thick, but 
 I looked at this listing and it looked OK to me... even the close-up picture 
 of the serial number plate.

 What did I miss... something serious?



 ... Graham Newton
 

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Re: [Phono-L] Collector's Guide to Victor Records

[john9ten]

Be jealous - he's doing a book signing at the GSPS December meeting at the 
Corbett's. Can't wait.
John Robles
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Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:55:03 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Collector's Guide to Victor Records

I received my copy a few days ago, and it's fabulous.  The labels are 
eye-popping, and there's a ton of information, including a very thorough 
exploration of Berliner records and the birth of American Zonophone.  Picture 
discs, personality recordings, test pressings, pattern labels that never made 
it to production...  The book is simply indispensable if you have even a 
passing interest in Victor records.  Really - a superb job.

George P.

 

 


 

 

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Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 3:28 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Collector's Guide to Victor Records


As Steve said, it is now available. I picked up copies from the printer in 
Boston last week, and the book is fabulous. 
 
Here is the brochure blurb: 
 
The Collector's Guide to Victor Records (2nd Edition) by Michael Sherman w/Kurt 
Nauck 
 
7 x 10, 288 pp with 850 full color illustrations 
 
With roots extending all the way back to the birth of the disc recording 
industry, Victor reigned supreme throughout the 78 rpm era. Herein lies the 
story of Victor's standard-catalog 78 rpm record label, traced from Berliner 
(its predecessor) to the demise of the 78 rpm format. All four of Victors 
standard label colors (Black, Red, Blue  Purple) are documented in detail 
along with all changes made to the Victor label throughout its 60 year run. 
 
The second section of the book highlights many of the notable singers, 
personalities and world leaders who recorded for Victor, leaving a priceless, 
treasured legacy for future generations. Included are such luminaries as Enrico 
Caruso, Leopold Stokowski, Will Rogers, Nellie Melba, King George V, Charles 
Lindbergh, Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Lauder, Adelina Patti, Amos  Andy, Robert 
Peary and dozens of others. 
 
The Victor Talking Machine Company (later RCA Victor) produced countless 
recordings outside their normal domestic catalog issues. The third section 
features ethnic recordings, imports, picture discs, puzzle records, subsidiary 
labels such as Bluebird and Zonophone, contract pressings, pattern labels, 
long-playing Program Transcriptions, vanity issues, childrens records, test 
pressings, radio transcriptions, demo records, soundtrack discs, client labels, 
in-house recordings and sample pressings. There's even a page devoted to errors 
and imitation records! 
 
The fourth section includes pictures of record sleeves, company catalogs, 
supplements and other Victor publications in addition to record release charts, 
rarity guides and a comprehensive bibliography and index. One would expect a 
compendium such as this to be dull and lifeless, but Sherman and Nauck's 
engaging style, attention to detail and brilliant label images make the story 
come alive. The entire book is profusely illustrated in resplendent full-color, 
and will be equally at home on the coffee table or the reference shelf. No 
archive or serious collector should be without it. 
 
$39 Softcover or $60 Hardback (Limited Edition of 500, signed  numbered) 
Add $5 for shipping; check, credit card and paypal accepted. 
 
You may order from Nauck's Vintage Records, na...@78rpm.com 
 
And yes, all the Victor picture records are listed and shown, including one or 
two you have never seen before! 
 
Kurt Nauck 
c/o Nauck's Vintage Records 
22004 Sherrod Ln. 
Spring, TX  77389 
 
Website: www.78rpm.com 
E-Mail: na...@78rpm.com 
www.newpledge.org 
www.mdada.org 
 
Phone: (281) 288-7826 
Fax: (425) 930-6862 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] contact info requested

[john9ten]

Teenboy-preview.com?? Did you get your email hijacked?
John
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Sent: Nov 18, 2010 3:29 PM


burdettewalt...@yahoo.com

webmas...@misteropera.com
 
http://teen-boy-preview.com/index.html
 
 From: maff...@bresnan.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:20:30 -0700
 Subject: [Phono-L] contact info requested
 
 All:
 
 I received the following earlier this year to an inquiry:
 
 
 
 Burdette Walters makes the reproduction boxes and lids for Blue Amberol
 (orange boxes). 
 
 
 
 I would appreciate the E-mail contact address to inquire about cost and
 availability.
 
 
 
 If no E-mail info, any other type would work.
 
 
 
 Again, thanks in advance
 
 
 
 Bob
 
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Re: [Phono-L] contact info requested

[john9ten]

Ok. The phonographs.html didn't appear in the first email and I was worried...
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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http://teen-boy-preview.com/html/phonographs.html
 
Hello John,
 
This is actually the address to the Mr Opera phonograph website.  
 
Steve
 
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 23:35:59 +
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] contact info requested
 
 Teenboy-preview.com?? Did you get your email hijacked?
 John
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 ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] contact info requested
 Sent: Nov 18, 2010 3:29 PM
 
 
 burdettewalt...@yahoo.com
 
 webmas...@misteropera.com
 
 http://teen-boy-preview.com/index.html
 
  From: maff...@bresnan.net
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:20:30 -0700
  Subject: [Phono-L] contact info requested
  
  All:
  
  I received the following earlier this year to an inquiry:
  
  
  
  Burdette Walters makes the reproduction boxes and lids for Blue Amberol
  (orange boxes). 
  
  
  
  I would appreciate the E-mail contact address to inquire about cost and
  availability.
  
  
  
  If no E-mail info, any other type would work.
  
  
  
  Again, thanks in advance
  
  
  
  Bob
  
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Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring

[john9ten]

I can send it to you later if you'd like to see it.
John
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Sorry John. All I have is my phone right now and can't see the pics for some 
reason.

 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 06:42:09 -0800
 From: john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
 
 If you look at the pictures at the link I posted yesterday, you can see there 
 was no way a spring could have been inserted between the suspension and the 
 capture nut. The capture nut is molded as part of the suspension bolt.
 John Robles
 
 --- On Tue, 11/9/10, John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 From: John Maeder appywan...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 6:11 AM
 
 Is it certain that there was never a compression spring fitted over the 
 threaded post between the crane and capture nut that would have allowed the 
 weight of the horn to float upon the reproducer and carriage?  It would seem 
 that a springless support would be a rather obvious design flaw to such a 
 compulsive over-engineer as Edison.  A loose spring could easily be lost and 
 thus not evident in surviving examples.  Are there any original parts sheets 
 for this type of horn support?
 
  From: steve_nor...@msn.com
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 08:47:35 -0500
  Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
  
  
   From: gbogan...@charter.net
   To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:30:29 -0500
   Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
   
   I have an early 10 panel cygnet horn and springless crane on an 
   Edison 
   Fireside.  As you surmise, the system doesn't work very well as the force 
   placed on the carriage by the horn varies with the position of the 
   carriage. 
   It happens to work on my particular example because the rubber coupling 
   from 
   my reproducer to the horn is old and somewhat loose.  This allows the 
   rubber 
   coupler to move vertically a bit as the carriage moves which results in a 
   more uniform carriage pressure.  But this original setup was not 
   satisfactory, I'm sure, and that's why the later versions use the spring 
   to 
   suspend the horn from the crane.
   
   Greg Bogantz
   
   
   
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   phono-l@oldcrank.org
   Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM
   Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
   
   
   
Hello,
   
Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring?  How do these 
work without the coil spring?  I have seen them but it does not look 
like 
a workable system to me.
   
Steve
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Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring

[john9ten]

WTF is that all about???
John Robles
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From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring


what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it 
complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having trouble 
to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not miniature,and 
before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting the price the 
shipping price and the description of any items is that clear,your shipping 
nothing before my autorisation is that clear.
 
 From: steve_nor...@msn.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
 
 
 People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the 
 record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert 
 it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought 
 until they had the problem.
 
  Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800
  From: john9...@pacbell.net
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
  
  I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the 
  spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For 
  those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of 
  the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link:
  http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/
  John Robles
  
  --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote:
  
  From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
  Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
  To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com, Phono-l 
  phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM
  
  
  Hello,
  
  Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work 
  without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a 
  workable system
  to me. 
  
  Steve 
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Re: [Phono-L] Shipping a Victrola IV question

[john9ten]

Glenn, the bracket screws into four holes on the back of the horn flange 
(inside the cabinet). The horn flange is atached to the cabinet with another 
separate bolt, so if he removes the bracket, no problem putting it back.
John Robles
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-Original Message-
From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:16:45 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping a Victrola IV question


I am having someone ship me a Victrola IV.  I've never had one to know what's 
being asked.  The seller has removed the tonearm at my suggestion and packed it 
separately.  He's now asked whether he should remove the tonearm bracket.  I 
told him not to bother but he's at work for the rest of the night so I have 
time 
before he gets back to packing to ask this.  I don't think it really matters if 
it's left on but if for some reason it does is there something else that this 
bracket is attached to that if he unscrews those 4 screws we have now detached 
something else on the inside we need to worry about?

As a side note the other phono he's sending me is a Rex Talking Machine.  I've 
finally located another machine by a vertical record producer!  Can't wait to 
get it.

Thanks,
Glenn
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Re: [Phono-L] Shipping a Victrola IV question

[john9ten]

Wow, I wouldn't either!
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-Original Message-
From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:30:40 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping a Victrola IV question

Thanks for the quick response John.  For what it's worth this is quite a late 
serial number, 581xxx.  It's beat up with no reproducer but couldn't pass up 
the 
$5 price tag.

Glenn





From: john9...@pacbell.net john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, September 8, 2010 5:23:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping a Victrola IV question

Glenn, the bracket screws into four holes on the back of the horn flange 
(inside 
the cabinet). The horn flange is atached to the cabinet with another separate 
bolt, so if he removes the bracket, no problem putting it back.
John Robles
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Glenn Longwell majesticrec...@snet.net
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:16:45 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Shipping a Victrola IV question


I am having someone ship me a Victrola IV.  I've never had one to know what's 
being asked.  The seller has removed the tonearm at my suggestion and packed it 
separately.  He's now asked whether he should remove the tonearm bracket.  I 
told him not to bother but he's at work for the rest of the night so I have 
time 

before he gets back to packing to ask this.  I don't think it really matters if 
it's left on but if for some reason it does is there something else that this 
bracket is attached to that if he unscrews those 4 screws we have now detached 
something else on the inside we need to worry about?

As a side note the other phono he's sending me is a Rex Talking Machine.  I've 
finally located another machine by a vertical record producer!  Can't wait to 
get it.

Thanks,
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Re: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer?

[john9ten]

That almost looks like a Clark-Johnson reproducer!
John Robles
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From: Steven Medved
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To: phonolist
To: Phono-l
ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: [Phono-L] What is this reproducer?
Sent: Sep 7, 2010 5:09 PM


http://cgi.ebay.com/antique-phonograph-reproducer-78-rpm-records-/290473079601
 
Can anyone tell me what this is?
 
Thanks,
 
Steve
  
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Re: [Phono-L] ITG Arrives in Oregon

[john9ten]

I got a checl in the mail today. Who wants to sell me a cygnet horn?? :-)
John Robles
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-Original Message-
From: Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.com
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:27:17 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ITG Arrives in Oregon

Oops!  This was s'posed to go to my good friend Dan only - sorry to 
'sturb y'all

And no I didn't miss the message about ITG not arriving as it should?  
Nor I miss the three individual reports of its arrival in Oregon - which 
seems redundant since 80% of the population probably doesn't know where 
Ore-ee-gone is!

And if you're reporting you didn't get your cell phone bill, I can 
forward mine for you to pay.

(.¿.) , Darrell
==
Ron L'Herault wrote:
 Yes, but did you get my cell phone bill?  8-).

 Did you miss the message about ITG not arriving as it should?

 Ron

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
 Behalf Of Darrell Lehman
 Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 4:08 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] ITG Arrives in Oregon

 Is EVERYBODY going to report on their mail??  I got my Cell phone bill
 yesterday.

 Daniel Melvin wrote:

 Mine came yesterday too!

 Dan

 On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Stan Stanfords...@clarphon.com   wrote:


  
 I got mine too...in fact, two copies.

 Stan Stanford
 Oregon Territory

 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Loran Hughes
 Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:38 PM
 To: Antique Phonograph List
 Subject: [Phono-L] ITG Arrives in Oregon

 Got mine today! Definitely worth the wait.

 Regards,
 Loran
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99

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I agree, worst show ever. It was a buyers market but no one was buying!
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:27:23 
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99


Hey! The Crapophone is up to $1.25! That's exactly how much merchandise I sold 
at the CAPS show last weekend!

 From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:00:02 -0700
 
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2. Re: Ebay Fraud (ronbr...@aol.com)
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4. Re: Ebay Fraud (Ron L'Herault)
5. Re: Ebay Fraud (bruce78...@comcast.net)
6. Re: Ebay Fraud (harvey kravitz)
7. Re: Ebay Fraud (Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD))
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:19:06 -0700 (PDT)
 From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 Message-ID: 884085.82901...@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me because 
 of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. It burned me 
 so much that I had to write to the seller with some education. Not 
 accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I couldn't help 
 it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as they say, they must 
 have a bunch of crap. 
 Item number:? 250683868557
 John Robles
 
 
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 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:37:03 -0400
 From: ronbr...@aol.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 Message-ID: 8cd0bd497b95960-1538-5...@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
 
 Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and 
 avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it?
 Its a steal at that price!  :)It would be worth paying the 99 cents 
 just to take it and smash it to bits.
 
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm
 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 
 So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me 
 because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. 
 It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some 
 education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I 
 couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as 
 they say, they must have a bunch of crap.
 Item number:? 250683868557
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 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:53:12 -0400
 From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
 To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 Message-ID: 004701cb3e0b$26b59d70$60d62...@ad.bu.edu
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 It probably is an all original machine-no new repro parts, just the ones it
 came with originally.  The reproducer does look better than other crapophone
 units I've seen though.
 
 Ron L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
 Behalf Of john robles
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:19 PM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 
 So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me
 because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. It
 burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some education. Not
 accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I couldn't help
 it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as they say, they must
 have a bunch of crap. 
 Item number:? 250683868557
 John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99

[john9ten]

The seller said they would amend the description. We'll see...
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:27:23 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99


Hey! The Crapophone is up to $1.25! That's exactly how much merchandise I sold 
at the CAPS show last weekend!

 From: phono-l-requ...@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Phono-L Digest, Vol 7, Issue 99
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:00:02 -0700
 
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4. Re: Ebay Fraud (Ron L'Herault)
5. Re: Ebay Fraud (bruce78...@comcast.net)
6. Re: Ebay Fraud (harvey kravitz)
7. Re: Ebay Fraud (Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD))
 
 
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 Message: 1
 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 20:19:06 -0700 (PDT)
 From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 Message-ID: 884085.82901...@web80707.mail.mud.yahoo.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me because 
 of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. It burned me 
 so much that I had to write to the seller with some education. Not 
 accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I couldn't help 
 it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as they say, they must 
 have a bunch of crap. 
 Item number:? 250683868557
 John Robles
 
 
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 Message: 2
 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 23:37:03 -0400
 From: ronbr...@aol.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 Message-ID: 8cd0bd497b95960-1538-5...@webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
 
 Yeh John, but you could pick it up for a bargain price of $0.99 and 
 avoid the shipping cost as its right in your backyard isn't it?
 Its a steal at that price!  :)It would be worth paying the 99 cents 
 just to take it and smash it to bits.
 
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Sent: Mon, Aug 16, 2010 10:19 pm
 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 
 So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me 
 because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. 
 It burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some 
 education. Not accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I 
 couldn't help it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as 
 they say, they must have a bunch of crap.
 Item number:? 250683868557
 John Robles
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 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:53:12 -0400
 From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
 To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 Message-ID: 004701cb3e0b$26b59d70$60d62...@ad.bu.edu
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 It probably is an all original machine-no new repro parts, just the ones it
 came with originally.  The reproducer does look better than other crapophone
 units I've seen though.
 
 Ron L
 
 -Original Message-
 From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
 Behalf Of john robles
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 11:19 PM
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Ebay Fraud
 
 So what else is new?? :-) Here is an item number that really burns me
 because of their claims in large type that this is an original machine. It
 burned me so much that I had to write to the seller with some education. Not
 accusatory, just informative. I know it's useless, but I couldn't help
 it...If this phonograph is from their own collection as they say, they must
 have a bunch of crap. 
 Item number:? 250683868557
 John Robles
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 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:54:42 -0400
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 To: 'Antique Phonograph 

Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola Help!!!

[john9ten]

I'll give that a shot!
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-Original Message-
From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 11:21:26 
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Grafonola Help!!!

I think the cam near the letter 3 is displaced 90 degrees or so clockwise
and should be rotated counter clockwise.

Ron L

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of john robles
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 9:43 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Grafonola Help!!!

Good morning all - 
The CAPS show is on Saturday and Sunday, and if I don't figure out this
on/off mechanism on my table model New Columbia, it's just a boat anchor and
I should toss it overboard. I have loaded pics on Photobucket, take a look
and see if you can figure out how it goes together so that the on/off and
speed control levers work!! I'll offer a prize to whoever figures it out - a
phonograph themed T-shirt size large.
Thanks
John Robles

http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Grafonola/
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Re: [Phono-L] Commendation for George Vollema

[john9ten]

I agree, I've gotten sone very hard to find parts from George that have allowed 
me to keep some cool phonos all original! Thans George!
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From: jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:01:46 
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Subject: [Phono-L] Commendation for George Vollema

George Vollema was able to provide a beautiful tone arm  soundbox as well as 
the missing piece of the semi-automatic shut-off mechanism for my 
Aeolian-Vocalion.   In addition, Mr. Vollema went beyond the call of duty  
sent as an E-mail attachment photos showing how the shut-off mechanism is 
fitted which really helped.   It is wonderful to have such a knowledgeable  
fine source of rare original antique phonograph parts.Mr. Vollema is to be 
heartily commended!

Jim Cartwright
Immortal Performances, Inc.
1404 West 30th Street
Austin, Texas 78703-1402


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Re: [Phono-L] Edison Picnic Six Pack

[john9ten]

That's a great idea. I'd be interested in one that carried 6.
John Robles
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Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:30:59 
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Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Picnic Six Pack

Every 4th of July I take my Edison Gem B with 24 gearing and about six 
cylinders wherever we celebrate the 4th. The Gem is a pleasure to pack around 
but the cylinders are a nuisance.  I was thinking how easy it would be to make 
a device to carry a small number of cylinders and make them more portable. 
Every time I'm in an antique shop and see the little tin Coke carrier, I think 
how nice it would be to have something for cylinders.  I would make something 
lightweight but sturdy out of wood with a handle on the top. I have an idea on 
design but I have not priced the raw materials. How many cylinders would you 
like to carry this way...6?...8? or ?  If it could be made for $25 would you be 
interested? Any comments would be appreciated.  Jerry Blais


  
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Re: [Phono-L] Off-Topic -- Looking for early patent help in France

[john9ten]

The 4-40 has the smallest re-entrant horn and I daresay it can sound better 
than the Credenza!
John R
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-Original Message-
From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 11:26:04 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Off-Topic -- Looking for early patent help in France

I'd say no. The Credenza has the full size re-entrant horn, and the
Consolette has (as I understand), a simple, straight horn. 

The Consolette will probably blow any previous Victor model out of the
water, with sound level and, of course, frequency response, but the low end
won't be there, as it is in the Credenza. 


 [Original Message]
 From: Chris Kocsis chris...@cox.net
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: 6/2/2010 9:32:22 AM
 Subject: [Phono-L] Off-Topic -- Looking for early patent help in France

 My apologies for this request unrelated to phonographs, but I'm looking 
 for someone in France who is able to look up a patent number (205058) 
 and tell me what the device is that it refers to.  It is probably 
 1920s-30s.  My hope is that there is a phono collector there who knows 
 how to look this up (online patents don't go back that far) or can tell 
 me how to do it. 

 Phono question: Does a Victor Consolette sound about as good as a
Credenza?

 Thanks,

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Re: [Phono-L] Doctors call for patients

[john9ten]

Groovy insurance plan..Arrgh

Still, Dr. Mike does wonderful work, I can attest to that from experience!
John R
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-Original Message-
From: Michael F. Khanchalian mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:12:25 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Doctors call for patients

Sure, Just consult your benefits coordinator for deductibles and  
planned maximums!

Any groovy insurance plan will do,

Dr. Mikey

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On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:58 PM, john robles john9...@pacbell.net wrote:

 Mike -
 Will my insurance cover it? :-)
 John Robles

 --- On Tue, 6/1/10, Michael F. Khanchalian mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com 
  wrote:

 From: Michael F. Khanchalian mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Doctors call for patients
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 9:15 PM

 This is your yearly reminder that I will be set up at Union in the  
 usual spot to bring healing to your beloved but ailing wax  
 recordings with cracks, in pieces, pitted, etc etc.

 Come on by,

 Best regards,

 Dr. Michael
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Re: [Phono-L] Model K reproducer HELP!!!

[john9ten]

Of course this one has the swivel shoulders. Also this weight is a repro, so I 
don't know if that would affect anything. Never know if the measurements are 
exact on repros.
Thanks for the info. I played this last night and it sounded like crap. What do 
you recommend for link wire? How flexible? I have copper wire and very fine 
steel wire, almost like heavy thread.
John
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-Original Message-
From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 15:45:20 
To: Phono-lphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Model K reproducer HELP!!!


On all Edison reproducers except for the L M and O and I think N when held 
upsidedown by the sound tube the stylus bars should be horizontal.  The secret 
of the K is to have the working bar horizontal.  You can do this depending on 
the holes in the bars with a loop like a ? or one that is like a flattened 
question mark.  I start with the C bar and have it horizontal, then add the H 
bar and make certain the addition does not affect the C bar.  Paul Baker used 
the ? the Edison ones I have seen used the ? with the flattened top.  I also 
use the flattened top, it seems to work better.

 

The S is also challenging, I had one that worked on my standard but not on the 
owners home so I had to redo.  

 

The new diaphragms are much easier, on the original style you had to cut a 
straight pin and it took me over 20 tries.  

 

A measurement of the link would give you a good idea, but the hinge block 
position ans size of the holes in the bars also affects this.  There are two 
types of the K, the early one with the swivel shoulders and the later one with 
the solid shoulders.  The solid shoulders are easier to work with.

 

 

 
 Hello all
 Does anyone know the length for the link wire for the Model K reproducer? I 
 am putting one together out of parts and I have been working on it for 3 
 hours trying to get the link right. I am about blind from installing and 
 removing the sapphire bars several times. My brain has ceased to function. 
 Next time I'll send it out to be done!  I have done this before, but at that 
 time I had some original dealers stock links!
 It seems to me that the tails of the sapphire bars should very slightly point 
 upward when the weight is flat against the reproducer top...currently the 
 point slightly inward (toward the diaphragm) which tells me the link is too 
 short. So does anyone have an exact measurement? I don't have another K to 
 compare it to at the moment.
 Thanks for any assistance!
 John Robles
 
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Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices

[john9ten]

I once dealt with Mirek and he was similarly nasty with me.
John Robles
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-Original Message-
From: Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:50:03 
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices

Unless one knows the weight of the packed shipment, a buyer can't really
tell if the shipper is off the mark with his shipping costs, and I believe
he Marek in Canada, right?  Shipping from Canada is always more expensive in
my experience.  If you want an inflated price for shipping try the $10 I was
charged to ship 0.1 pounds (less than two ounces) of repro car parts from PA
to MA.  They use UPS.   The post office would have cost under $2.00 I'll
bet.

Ron L

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of zonophone2...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:44 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices


 hello all
i had planned on getting some parts from mirek
be careful  he raised his prices over his old catalog and is greedy on
shipping as well
this is our correspondence
hopefully he will have the rest of his inventory for the rest of his life
be careful all
rob  




 
 NO PROBLEM
YOUR GREED ON SHIPPING TURNED ME OFF]
I DIDNT MIND THE PRICES GOING UP BUT I AM SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO
SAID THIS TO YOU
HAVE A GREAT LIFE
rob


 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Miroslav Stehlik m.steh...@sentex.ca
To: zonophone2...@aol.com
Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 10:38 am
Subject: Re: Fw: good morning


Hi Rob,
Thank you for taking my time for nothing! Please, do not order from me any
more. Your los!
Happy collecting!
Mirek
  
- Original Message - 
  
From:   zonophone2...@aol.com 
  
To: m.steh...@sentex.ca 
  
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:49   AM
  
Subject: Re: Fw: good morning
  


  
hi mirek
  
i have been thinking it over and will pass on the order
  
i cant get out during the day for the m.o.
  
thank you
  
rob
  
 

In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:13:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
m.steh...@sentex.ca writes:
  

Hi,

Are you still interested? I sold two Zonos today!

I will be in Europe most of May, leaving next Monday

Mirek

- Original Message - 
From: Miroslav Stehlik 

To: zonophone2...@aol.com 

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:11 PM

Subject: Re: good morning




Hi,

 You are ordering  the following :

two zonophone reproducers..$330.00
2 Berliner fiber gears,148 Teeth.$ 96.00
2 Berliner hold down nuts...$ 44.00
1 long curved crank...$ 29.00

 

Sub Total$
499.00

 

Shipping/H: Expedited Parcel ( surf.Mail traceable ).. $ 22.00 ( no
insurance) $27.00* ( insured for $500.00)*

 

Payment by International Money Order or equivalent, the Total
is.. $ 512.00 or* $ 517.00*  

When paying by PayPal, the Total
is$ 532.00  

I will ship as soon as I receive the payment ( next work. day)

* Note, that I can not be responsible for lost or damage to the
shipment!

Please comfirm your choices.

Mirek

 

 


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Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices

[john9ten]

Agreed. I charge exact shipping and I usually have boxes onhand. If I have to 
buy new boxes I might charge $1 or so. Sometimes you have to pay the cost of 
doing business as a courtesy. I have found that it builds repeat customers.
John
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-Original Message-
From: bruce78...@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:41:53 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices

Folks who deliberately try to stuff their pockets with your money by 
deliberately inflating the shipping costs on an item, are nothing short of 
despicable . That is a fact !! 
- Original Message - 
From: Ron L'Herault   lherault @bu. edu  
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:50:03 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices 

Unless one knows the weight of the packed shipment, a buyer can't really 
tell if the shipper is off the mark with his shipping costs, and I believe 
he Marek in Canada, right? Shipping from Canada is always more expensive in 
my experience. If you want an inflated price for shipping try the $10 I was 
charged to ship 0.1 pounds (less than two ounces) of repro car parts from PA 
to MA. They use UPS. The post office would have cost under $2.00 I'll 
bet. 

Ron L 

-Original Message- 
From: phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank .org [ mailto :phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank .org] 
On 
Behalf Of zonophone2006@ aol .com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:44 AM 
To: phono-l@ oldcrank .org 
Subject: [Phono-L] re mirek and his prices 


hello all 
i had planned on getting some parts from mirek 
be careful he raised his prices over his old catalog and is greedy on 
shipping as well 
this is our correspondence 
hopefully he will have the rest of his inventory for the rest of his life 
be careful all 
rob 





NO PROBLEM 
YOUR GREED ON SHIPPING TURNED ME OFF] 
I DIDNT MIND THE PRICES GOING UP BUT I AM SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO 
SAID THIS TO YOU 
HAVE A GREAT LIFE 
rob 








-Original Message- 
From: Miroslav Stehlik m. stehlik @ sentex .ca 
To: Zonophone2006@ aol .com 
Sent: Wed, Apr 28, 2010 10:38 am 
Subject: Re: Fw : good morning 


Hi Rob, 
Thank you for taking my time for nothing! Please, do not order from me any 
more. Your los ! 
Happy collecting! 
Mirek 

- Original Message - 

From: Zonophone2006@ aol .com 

To: m. stehlik @ sentex .ca 

Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:49 AM 

Subject: Re: Fw : good morning 




hi mirek 

i have been thinking it over and will pass on the order 

i cant get out during the day for the m.o. 

thank you 

rob 



In a message dated 4/28/2010 1:13:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
m. stehlik @ sentex .ca writes: 


Hi, 

Are you still interested? I sold two Zonos today! 

I will be in Europe most of May, leaving next Monday 

Mirek 

- Original Message - 
From: Miroslav Stehlik 

To: Zonophone2006@ aol .com 

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:11 PM 

Subject: Re: good morning 




Hi, 

You are ordering the following : 

two zonophone reproducers..$330.00 
2 Berliner fiber gears,148 Teeth.$ 96.00 
2 Berliner hold down nuts...$ 44.00 
1 long curved crank...$ 29.00 



Sub Total$ 
499.00 



Shipping/H: Expedited Parcel ( surf.Mail traceable ).. $ 22.00 ( no 
insurance) $27.00* ( insured for $500.00)* 



Payment by International Money Order or equivalent, the Total 
is.. $ 512.00 or* $ 517.00* 

When paying by PayPal , the Total 
is$ 532.00 

I will ship as soon as I receive the payment ( next work. day) 

* Note, that I can not be responsible for lost or damage to the 
shipment! 

Please comfirm your choices. 

Mirek 






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Re: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

[john9ten]

I belive that is a reproducer from a PAL portable phonograph from the 50s.
John
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-Original Message-
From: dan s icemanda...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:01:01 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

hello everyone i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the make and or
model of reproducer this is. i bought a victrola orthophonic v v 4-3 and
this reproducer came with it. judging by the sloppy fit to the tone arm i
would have to guess this is not the original one but i don't know. it is in
need of a thumb screw which is why i would like to know which make it is.
any information would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. thank you
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Re: [Phono-L] Talking Scales

[john9ten]

I have to admit that COCA Times first struck me as a possible title of a 
magazine for the Bolivian drug cartel.. :-)
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From: Mike Stitt smst...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:01:25 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Talking Scales

I recently read an interesting article from COCA Times I thought you all may
find interesting. COCA stands for Coin Operated Collector Association BTW.

The article by Jim and Merlyn Collings is about penny scales.
It seems the first *talking* penny scales originated out of England.
George Moore submitted patents in 1902 for a talking scale. The Moore
Talking Machine Company was founded in Boston and morphed into The American
Talking Scale Company.  These scales are very rare. Seems they broke down
often due to the sensitive nature of the mechanisms. They employed a disc
record that  was mounted vertically and you could see it work through the
glass in the scale. These were nickel machines so it was big step over the
penny machine profit wise. One of the options was a slug rejector that would
announce NO GOOD.

The sound was provided either through a brass horn or sounds slots, [sic].
It may be of interest to correlate the sound slots used on scales to
Victrola's.
This may be published and known knowledge and well documented by Allen K or
Tim Fabrizio and George Paul.

Sorry about the spotty nature of this email just some highlights.

For ref:
Lister Co.
The United Vending Machine Co,  146 Caxton Building, Cleveland Ohio
The American Talking Scale Co, 452 Fifth Ave, New York City
Standard Scale Works
1904 Bankers Magazine A Wonderful Machine!
Other contributors to the article, Bill Berning, Mike Gorski, Greg Lemore
and Jeff Storch

The last line of the article,
We feel even Thomas Edison would been impressed by this wonderful talking
scale.

Those that may be interested in joining COCA email, bedvibr...@aol.com. Love
the email address.
Mike
One last thing, they only weigh up to 250 lbs.
I have a penny scale at the shop that goes to 295 lbs. Seems to not weigh
high enough for many.
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Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

[john9ten]

I don't know about Texas, but in California checks are only good for 6 months. 
If not cashed by then they are void at the bank. This Bryan guy sounds like 
he's not the greatest businessman. That's no way to keep a customer!
John Robles
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From: jim...@earthlink.net jim...@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:48:43 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

I spoke to Mr. Bryan (New Amberola Phonograph Company) on the telephone
three or four years ago about placing a large (close to $ 1000.00) order
for needles, both in bulk  in packages of 100,  sent him cheques for same
but the cheques were never cashed, nor were he needles received  he never
responded to several letters I wrote inquiring about my order.   Finally
this year, I quit keeping funds to cover the cheques in my bank account 
thought he had disappeared from the face of the earth so
my cheques would not be cashed.   Is he still in the needle business?   I
had previously bought needles from him several times  would like to again
since he offered several
thicknesses suitable for different records.
Jim Cartwright
Immortal Performances, Inc.
Austin, Texas

jim...@earthlink.net


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 From: phonop...@aol.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: 15-Apr-2010 5:35:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

 I highly recommend Martin Bryan for steel needles at


 m...@together.net




 Best, Tim F.








  
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Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

[john9ten]

Hi I didn't see them on the site, but the president wrote back to tell me they 
do make them and asking the quantity I would want..
Where can I get 1 of 2 or 3 sizes at a reasonable price?
Thanks
John
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From: phonop...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:17:28 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's 
the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in 
little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too 
big a project, but go to


www.whbagshaw.com


Regards to all,


Tim Fabrizio
www.phonophan.com
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Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

[john9ten]

Thank you Ron!
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
Sent: Apr 15, 2010 5:40 AM

They would be Bagshaw in Nashua NH or Dean in CT. 

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of john robles
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 12:50 AM
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

Hello all
I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that still
makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am seeking to
buy needles wholesale.
Thanks
John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

[john9ten]

I bought needles from APSCO in the past but I didn't like them. Under a 
magnifier the surfaces were very rough and I didn't like the sound. They may 
have changed suppliers since, however. It was convenient that they were 
prepackaged though. I'd give them another try.
John

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-Original Message-
From: Daniel Melvin d...@old-phonographs.com
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 10:08:39 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

I have bought tickets from APSCO and they have been very reliable.

http://www.antiquephono.com/

Dan

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, jim...@earthlink.net
jim...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Some years ago I bought steel needles from Pfanstiehl but then began buying
 from the New Amberola Phonograph Company which following a telephone call
 to place an order after which I sent payment three years ago failed to send
 the needles  cash the cheques I'd sent, despite several follow up letters
 I've writtenI'd like to know of a good current source of needles also
 since I'm about sold out  continue to have the occassional request from
 customers.
 Jim Cartwright
 Immortal Performances, Inc.

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  From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
  To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
  Date: 14-Apr-2010 11:49:34 PM
  Subject: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??
 
  Hello all
  I seem to remember hearing about a needle manufacturer in the US that
 still makes them and has for decades..anyone remember who it is? I am
 seeking to buy needles wholesale.
  Thanks
  John Robles
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Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

[john9ten]

The quote from Bagshaw for 20,000 was 1700.00, or 8.00 plus cost per hundred. 
Not competitive at all. I see you would have to buy tons to compete with these 
$5 per hundred sellers.
John
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-Original Message-
From: phonop...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:17:28 
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Steel needle manufacturer??

Yes, it's Bagshaw. They've been making them since the early 1900s. But here's 
the catch --- you've got to buy A LOT, I mean A LOT -- and they won't be in 
little bags. So, it's a big expense and a lot of work. For most people it's too 
big a project, but go to


www.whbagshaw.com


Regards to all,


Tim Fabrizio
www.phonophan.com
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Re: [Phono-L] Craigslist Rant

[john9ten]

I bought my first cylinder machine under that kind of pressure. I was looking 
it over for five minutes, being new to the hobby, and some guy next to me 
pointed to it and asked the seller how much for that phonograph? and I said 
I'll take it.
John Robles

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From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:15:50 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Craigslist Rant

There was a jerk in Michigan;one of thr founders of the Michigan Antique
Phono Society, who'd buy a radio out of your hands if you wer examining it
to buy it. 


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 From: Bruce Mercer maxbu...@wowway.com
 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Date: 4/11/2010 7:07:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Craigslist Rant

 I don't know... but I must be one of the biggest fools on this forum.
 Whatever happened to the integrity of a verbal handshake? There have been
a
 few times where somebody came behind me and offered more, one time a LOT
 more, (Zenith Stratosphere) but then there was that verbal handshake and
 people have always been true to their word and followed through. Maybe I'm
 just lucky or naieve or both.
 Bruce (still riding *on* the turnip truck:-)

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Re: [Phono-L] Red Gem/Fireside Horn

[john9ten]

I think this thread has come unraveled! :-)
John Robles
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-Original Message-
From: Stan Stanford s...@clarphon.com
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:27:15 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Gem/Fireside Horn

Hi Rachel,
   Let's do the 12:58 time.I'll be there about 12:45??  at Sellwood 
MS??

Stan


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From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com
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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Red Gem/Fireside Horn


 Hi Pete ~

 Do you have photos already taken of this machine?

 Best,
 Andy Baron
 Santa Fe

 On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:39 AM, elcamino...@aol.com wrote:


 Hello All,

 I have a nice Red Gem/Fireside horn that I am getting ready to post  on 
 ebaE---if you have an interest please contact me 
 directlyelcamino...@aol.com

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Re: [Phono-L] Triumph bedplates, Model B and D

[john9ten]

The model b has a little stanchion next to the pulley. I think it was 
eliminated on the model D due to the need for space to pull out the 2/4 gearing 
shift. The D was the first model with the factory 2/4 gearing. You could add it 
to the earlier model, but the shift mechanism didn't need so much space to the 
right of the pulley. Is that as clear as mud??
John Robles
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Subject: [Phono-L] Triumph bedplates, Model B and D
Sent: Apr 6, 2010 7:45 AM


Hello,

What is the difference between the model B and D triumph bedplate?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230450343741

Is this a D bedplate?  I only have an A and E so I have no way to tell.

Thanks,

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Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?

[john9ten]

Time to buy a horse and cart!
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-Original Message-
From: Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:19:22 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?

The elephant in the room that NOBODY ever talks about with these hybrid 
cars is the cost to replace the battery pack.  Anybody who has ever owned a 
rechargeable anything knows that the battery is only good for about 3 years, 
advertising claims to the contrary.  The published cost of the battery pack 
for the Toyota Prius is about $3,000.  Anyone who has any thought of buying 
a used Prius had better be prepared to shuck out another 3 grand very 
quickly to actually keep the thing on the road.  And the estimated battery 
cost of the new Chebby Volt is about 8 GRAND!  No wonder the car is set to 
retail for 40 grand.  Until there is an economical way to lease or trade in 
these battery packs, the whole economical, money saving baloney about 
operating one of these cars is just a pipe dream.  It makes good advertising 
malarkey, but owners of these cars are in for a rude awakening sooner rather 
than later.

Greg Bogantz



- Original Message - 
From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?


Are there charging stations for these types of cars? I don't know how long 
they take to charge, but I would imagine at some point there will need to be 
places where they can be charged publicly. 100 miles is not a lot of ground 
to cover when you are scouring the countryside for phonographs!
John

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, DanKj ediso...@verizon.net wrote:

From: DanKj ediso...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:57 AM

They say 100 miles under ideal conditions. That's more than I drive each 
week, so such a car would suit me - except that I have no driveway so no 
place to plug it in ! The 'LEAF doesn't look Victrola-sized, either


- Original Message - From: john robles john9...@pacbell.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?


I just saw a commercial last night for Nissan's new all-electric vehicle. I 
wonder how far you get on a charge..
John Robles


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Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?

[john9ten]

I higly recommend the Suzuki XL7. Split back seats, lotsa features, I can fit a 
victrola xvi easily, comfortable..I love mine!
John Robles
--Original Message--
From: Ron L'Herault
Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
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Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Vehicle?
Sent: Mar 7, 2010 12:20 PM

Dang, I was hoping the Honda Fit would be big enough for a common upright
Victrola.   It fills all my other criteria.What about the Kia Soul? and
doesn't Hyundai have a hatchback?

Ron L

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From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On
Behalf Of jim...@earthlink.net
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:47 PM
To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org
Subject: [Phono-L] Vehicle?

I am on the verge of getting a new vehicle  thought I'd ask the advice of
Phono-L members since, like myself, you all have need to haul antique
phonographs.   I'd like to have cargo capacity to transport the typical
Victrola (XVI), the typical Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph (C-250) as well
the Orthophonic Credenza - when I need to haul an
Orthophonic changer or a Capehart, I'll continue to use my 1969 GMC pickup.
I want a smaller, more economical 4 cylinder vehicle  have looked at Hondas
(all of which have
too small a cargo area except the Element which I consider unattractive) 
Toyotas (Scion, Metric, RAV 4  Venza,all of which will accommodate the
above mentioned machines)  am leaning towards the RAV4 but thought it might
be nice to get your input before making a final decision.   Thanks!
Jim Cartwright
Immortal Performances, Inc.


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Re: [Phono-L] A favor -- 1933 hits

[john9ten]

Not something I am versed in but a splendid idea! You should cruise about with 
the windows down and the music blasting like kids today do it! Imagine the 
double takes!
John Robles
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From: msprin...@juno.com
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To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
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Subject: [Phono-L] A favor -- 1933 hits
Sent: Feb 5, 2010 12:58 PM

I know many of you do this for a living, and so I hate to ask...  But, if 
someone was willing to help me I'd be deeply indebted.
My boyfriend is in the final stages of having his 1933 Chevy Master Eagle fully 
(and beautifully) restored.  It's going to be a grand sight moving down the 
road.  I'd like to compile several CDs-worth of music that would have been 
popular that year, so the music we listen to while riding in it matches the 
vehicle -- it just seems the thing to do.  And it might make a nice Valentine's 
gift, but if the timing is too short it doesn't need to be.
At the moment, though, I'm computer challenged and so can't pull in the music 
and organize it and, besides, don't really have the knowledge about which tunes 
(and which versions) would be best.
Is this anyone's idea of a fun project?

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Re: [Phono-L] Need Address for Tim Fabrizio

[john9ten]

I am very sorry to hear that. I dealt with Lee on a few occasions. He was a 
very nice gentleman. I send you my deepest sympathy.
John Robles
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-Original Message-
From: Lee Kirk lekirk...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:59:01 
To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Need Address for Tim Fabrizio

I am Brandy Kirk and I am so sorry to let you know that  (pappa)Lee passed away 
January 28th at home.





From: gpaul2...@aol.com gpaul2...@aol.com
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 1:08:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Need Address for Tim Fabrizio


Tim moved from Westminster 5 years ago, so don't send anything there!  The PO 
Box 747, Henrietta, NY  14467 address is correct.  You can also contact him at 
phonop...@aol.com.

George P.








-Original Message-
From: Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net
To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2010 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Need Address for Tim Fabrizio


Tim Fabrizio's mailing address is: 

396 Westminster Rd. 
(or: P.O. Box 747) 
Henrietta, NY  14467 

Or, you can email him at his phonophan webpage: 

http://www.phonophan.com/ 

Greg Bogantz 


- Original Message - From: jim...@earthlink.net 
To: Phono-L@oldcrank.org 
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:16 PM 
Subject: [Phono-L] Need Address for Tim Fabrizio 

I attempted to send some copies of some excerpts from an article on Charles 
Sumner Tainter's 1881 Home Notes that appeared in For the Record the organ 
of the City of London Antique Phonograph and Gramophone Society that suggest 
that Tainter, not Berliner, was the originator of lateral cut wax disc 
recording as well as the acid etched 
 duplicating process to obtain Mr. Fabrizio's thoughts on the matter but my  
 letter, sent to P.O. Box 10307 in Rochester, New York came back.    Can  
 anyone provide me with 
 Mr. Fabrizio's current mailing address?    Thanks! 
 Jim Cartwright 
 Immortal Performances 
 
 
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