[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-05 Thread Steven Medved
Michael, Thanks for the reply, I think that most motor noise comes from worn gears and I have had good results by adding Vaseline to an early Victor motor with a lot of gear noise, just as Ron suggested. I think the A machines have more noise because they were used longer, just my idea as

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Ron L
-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Michael F. Khanchalian Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:49 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home I've got a noisy home, and the kids are already in bed. Well...an Edison Home (Banner case

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Ron L
Of Rich Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:00 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Brass gears meshed with steel gears should never be greased or heavily lubricated. They are self lubricating. Any extra lube will hold dirt which will imbed into the brass which

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Rich
...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:00 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Brass gears meshed with steel gears should never be greased or heavily lubricated. They are self lubricating. Any extra lube will hold dirt which

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2007-01-02 Thread Loran T. Hughes
How odd then that oiling gear teeth was recommended in Edison's instruction sheets. It's been a while since all those mechanical engineering courses, but I don't recall anything about dissimilar metal gears being self lubricating. I even pulled out my Machinery's Handbook just to make

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Walt
- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:00 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Brass gears meshed with steel gears should never be greased or heavily lubricated. They are self

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2007-01-02 Thread Ron L
, January 02, 2007 1:22 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Try this then. Why do you suppose that The Edison Co. went to all of the trouble to build motors where there was a brass gear meshed with a steel gear? It is not an accident. Look at any Edison motor

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Rich
Of Rich Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:00 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Brass gears meshed with steel gears should never be greased or heavily lubricated. They are self lubricating. Any extra lube will hold dirt which will imbed into the brass which

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Ron L
[mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Rich Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:22 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Try this then. Why do you suppose that The Edison Co. went to all of the trouble to build motors where there was a brass gear meshed with a steel

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Rich
surely appreciate you Loran and all out there in Phono-L land. Happy New Year to you all, Dr. K. - Original Message - From: Walt waltsomm...@comcast.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:25 AM Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Rich

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2007-01-02 Thread Michael F. Khanchalian
, January 02, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home The rubber washers were mentioned. These isolate vibration and should be as soft as possible. Natural rubber or sorbothane is a good replacement. Replacements can be made with a set of gasket punches and McMaster Carr sells

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Steven Medved
Does the crank touch the escutcheon? From steve_nor...@msn.com Tue Jan 2 15:49:04 2007 From: steve_nor...@msn.com (Steven Medved) Date: Tue Jan 2 15:49:21 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home Message-ID: bay124-w435b59721d339a48a6895bf6...@phx.gbl Edison used soft rubber to isolate

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Rich
-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home The rubber washers were mentioned. These isolate vibration and should be as soft as possible. Natural rubber or sorbothane is a good replacement. Replacements can be made with a set of gasket

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Michael F. Khanchalian
] Re: Noisy Home Edison used soft rubber to isolate the upper bed plate from the lower one to reduce noise transfer, on my Triumph I used inner tube for the washers and rubber from a toilet plunger to put between the upper and lower bedplate. On my A the crank was touching the escutcheon

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Rich
Edison used pure latex rubber. You can buy the stuff from McMaster Carr. Better choice is the Sorbothane I referenced previously. If the suspension is properly adjusted the crank does not contact the case and should be centered in the hole. It is important to remember that these

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread DanKj
All this makes me glad of my modest, almost-silent Fireside ! From rich-m...@octoxol.com Tue Jan 2 17:50:53 2007 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com (Rich) Date: Tue Jan 2 17:51:10 2007 Subject: [Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home In-Reply-To: 01c72ed8$292431c0$7c01a...@335 Message-ID

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-02 Thread Steven Medved
Hi Dan, I know two other people who found little used phonos and they are very quiet. You are very lucky, indeed. On the triumph you can tell how much it was played by the small brass gears. Steve From lo...@oldcrank.com Thu Jan 4 11:56:13 2007 From: lo...@oldcrank.com (Loran T.

[Phono-L] Re: Noisy Home

2007-01-01 Thread Michael F. Khanchalian
I've got a noisy home, and the kids are already in bed. Well...an Edison Home (Banner case), that is. I've tried most of the tricks and can't seem to quiet it. The noise seems mostly associated with the pulley shaft and it's associated gears or bearings. But...everything looks true