Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-16 Thread Jim Nichol
Yes, Rich brings up a good point. The most common winding failure is that the insulation on the windings fail (usually Field windings), causing the Field to be grounded to the motor frame. One of the most common and basic tests for suspected bad motors is to simply measure the resistance from

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread clockworkhome
Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let you know by getting hot. How about a photo of the motor? Most good motor shops can fix anything from fractional horsepower to 100 HP.

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let you know

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Barry Kasindorf
Check the resister. If its value is too big the motor will slow down under load. -Barry On 2/14/2013 11:23 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question That looks suspiciously like a universal motor, runs on AC or DC and various voltages from 63v to 240v with the aid of the resistor. On 02/15/2013 08:15 AM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I don't know if it's because I am using Google Chrome, but my posts get

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
Actually, I found a smaller version of this motor in an early home video projector. I would have bought it, but it was frozen... From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:27:06 -0500 OK

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Steven Medved
I use IE9 and mine all run together as well. From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:15:57 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question I don't know if it's because I am using Google Chrome, but my posts get run together. If you copy

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Jim Nichol
website: www.carolinaphonosociety.com A shortcut to the pic is: http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site/twilight-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lampCurt To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Andrew Baron
On Feb 15, 2013, at 12:04 PM, Jim Nichol wrote: ...shorted turns) means that a few of the loops of wire in the coils are shorted together, causing the current to bypass them. The lecture is a good one, especially regarding the importance of appearing knowledgable (or even better, actually

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
or any spec info. Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 10:04:15 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question That looks suspiciously like a universal motor, runs on AC or DC and various voltages from 63v to 240v with the aid of the resistor. On 02

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
is: http://open1234.wix.com/camps-site/twilight-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lampCurt To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread rick
@oldcrank.org Sent: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 3:37 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question He was advised that it was a short. You are correct that the correct ondition condition description is OPEN Circuit. If the fields happen to e in parallel then that would be where I would start looking. On 02

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Jim Nichol
-zone-2#!__fairy-phono-lampCurt To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
From: clockworkh...@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 04:01:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Induction motors that lack torque can usually be traced to an open field coil or an open armature loop. A shorted turn will eat torque but the motor will let you know by getting hot

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Vinyl Visions
16:50:01 -0600 From: rich-m...@octoxol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question Some of these motors have round brushes constructed from tightly rolled up brass screen. If this motor has that type of brush they are most likely dirty and oxidized

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-15 Thread Rich
It does prove frustrating. Your best bet is someone who will show up to the next phonograph show who can spell electric motor. These things are not hard to fix actually. The most likely problem is that the field is grounded and as it is only a 2 wire device the case is also hot. It could

[Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-14 Thread Vinyl Visions
I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the original parts in any way) was to use a 78 rpm turntable motor from a jukebox. Does anyone know of a direct drive type motor that would

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-14 Thread Greg Bogantz
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:23 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the original parts in any way

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-14 Thread Rich
Again, do you have pictures of this item? On 02/14/2013 10:23 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote: I am at my wits end, trying to find someone who can rewind/fix a motor for my Fairy Phonograph Lamp. What I am considering as a temporary fix (not altering the original parts in any way) was to use a 78 rpm

Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question

2013-02-14 Thread Vinyl Visions
...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 23:58:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Turntable Motor Question There were a number of direct drive phono motors made back in the 78rpm days. The General Industries Flyer models are among the most common. Other ones that I