Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-03 Thread Micah Stevens
No. That would be to access the code. Include grabs an entire file. 
Perhaps you should look into Ajax techniques.


-Micah

On 04/02/2007 04:06 PM, ioannes wrote:
I have a particular business application so just returning html is OK, 
the output is the useful bit in this case.  I understand from the 
discussion that I can still run my code on my server in response to a 
remote server requesting the result of a function in that file and 
that result gets back to that server.  So you can use include() to 
access the result of a function on another server, sounds like.




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Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-02 Thread Micah Stevens

I'm not totally clear on what you're asking, so here's two options:

If you use the include() function, you're pulling the code from the 
external server and running on the local server. If you're running an 
HTTP call, say via an Ajax routine for example, the code runs on the 
external server.


The difference is if you're grabbing the source from the external server 
and running it on the local php interpreter, or if you're using the 
external php setup.


This seems to be what you're asking, the answer in this case is, either 
one could happen, it depends on your implementation. If you provide 
details on the exact implementation then I can give a more exact answer.


HTH,
-Micah

On 04/02/2007 06:53 AM, ioannes wrote:
I ask this as I do not have two web sites on different servers to test 
at  the moment.
Does it work to use an include function in the php code on one site 
that calls a function on the other site?  If you include a file on a 
remote server that runs a function, where does the function run - on 
the server where the function is originally written or on the calling 
server?  I am thinking that if I write code, it is one way to make the 
functionality available without actually disposing of the source code 
itself.


So the included functions might be variable values.  Eg you could pass 
back a whole calendar to the calling server, which then just prints on 
the calling web site just by printing the returned variable.  (I know 
that in terms of getting data to mark up the calendar the database 
would need to be fully referenced: user, password, server, and the 
calling (shared) host for instance will ask for the remote IP address 
to add to a white list.)


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Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-02 Thread Tony Miceli
wouldn't that be very dangerous if someone could grab my code and run it on 
their server?


i'm an intermediate php guy at best. for many reasons i would not want 
someone including my files and running them on another server!!! i hope 
there's no easy way to do that!


btw if files are outside of the route directory then that means only the 
local files can all them and execute them, right??


thanks
tony


 
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I'm not totally clear on what you're asking, so here's two options:

If you use the include() function, you're pulling the code from the 
external server and running on the local server. If you're running an HTTP 
call, say via an Ajax routine for example, the code runs on the external 
server.


The difference is if you're grabbing the source from the external server 
and running it on the local php interpreter, or if you're using the 
external php setup.


This seems to be what you're asking, the answer in this case is, either 
one could happen, it depends on your implementation. If you provide 
details on the exact implementation then I can give a more exact answer.


HTH,
-Micah

On 04/02/2007 06:53 AM, ioannes wrote:
I ask this as I do not have two web sites on different servers to test at 
the moment.
Does it work to use an include function in the php code on one site that 
calls a function on the other site?  If you include a file on a remote 
server that runs a function, where does the function run - on the server 
where the function is originally written or on the calling server?  I am 
thinking that if I write code, it is one way to make the functionality 
available without actually disposing of the source code itself.


So the included functions might be variable values.  Eg you could pass 
back a whole calendar to the calling server, which then just prints on 
the calling web site just by printing the returned variable.  (I know 
that in terms of getting data to mark up the calendar the database would 
need to be fully referenced: user, password, server, and the calling 
(shared) host for instance will ask for the remote IP address to add to a 
white list.)


John



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Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-02 Thread Chris

Tony Miceli wrote:
wouldn't that be very dangerous if someone could grab my code and run it 
on their server?


Yeh, pretty dangerous. That's how c99shell and a bunch of other scripts 
work.


i'm an intermediate php guy at best. for many reasons i would not want 
someone including my files and running them on another server!!! i hope 
there's no easy way to do that!


If they are named with an extension that isn't parsed by php (eg .txt), 
then they will be executed on another server.


If they are parsed by php (ie .php) then including them remotely won't 
work - it will include whatever your php script spits out (eg html).


btw if files are outside of the route directory then that means only the 
local files can all them and execute them, right??


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Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-02 Thread Tony Miceli
thanks for your reply. that's what i figured using common sense, but that's 
not always the case with software.


cu
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Tony Miceli wrote:
wouldn't that be very dangerous if someone could grab my code and run it 
on their server?


Yeh, pretty dangerous. That's how c99shell and a bunch of other scripts 
work.


i'm an intermediate php guy at best. for many reasons i would not want 
someone including my files and running them on another server!!! i hope 
there's no easy way to do that!


If they are named with an extension that isn't parsed by php (eg .txt), 
then they will be executed on another server.


If they are parsed by php (ie .php) then including them remotely won't 
work - it will include whatever your php script spits out (eg html).


btw if files are outside of the route directory then that means only the 
local files can all them and execute them, right??


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Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-02 Thread ioannes
I have a particular business application so just returning html is OK, 
the output is the useful bit in this case.  I understand from the 
discussion that I can still run my code on my server in response to a 
remote server requesting the result of a function in that file and that 
result gets back to that server.  So you can use include() to access the 
result of a function on another server, sounds like.


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Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-02 Thread Bastien Koert

use cURL to execute the remote code

Bastien



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I have a particular business application so just returning html is OK, the 
output is the useful bit in this case.  I understand from the discussion 
that I can still run my code on my server in response to a remote server 
requesting the result of a function in that file and that result gets back 
to that server.  So you can use include() to access the result of a 
function on another server, sounds like.


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Re: [PHP-DB] Include function across servers

2007-04-02 Thread Chris

ioannes wrote:
I have a particular business application so just returning html is OK, 
the output is the useful bit in this case.  I understand from the 
discussion that I can still run my code on my server in response to a 
remote server requesting the result of a function in that file and that 
result gets back to that server.  So you can use include() to access the 
result of a function on another server, sounds like.


You can include code, but you can't run a function from another server.

That code could include a function but that doesn't mean you'll get the 
right results from it.


For example:

?php

mysql_connect();

function get_categories()
{
  $return = array();
  $query = select * from categories;
  $result = mysql_query($query) or die(problem:  . mysql_error());
  while ($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)) {
$return[] = $row;
  }
  return $return;
}

?


including that from a remote server will query your local database - it 
will not query your remote database.


So I really suggest finding another way to do whatever you are trying to 
do...


1) for security reasons (you don't want anyone else to be able to access 
your database or anything else because if you can do it, so can I - plus 
a lot of other things to get into your server)


2) for practicality reasons (eg the above)

3) for usability reasons (eg the remote server crashes, your 
website/whatever is inaccessible because functionality can't be retrieved)


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Re: [PHP-DB] include function

2004-04-07 Thread Craig Hoffman
Ok, I figured it out.  I am using jpgraph and I need to place the 
include statement next to the start of PHP.

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included statement
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On Apr 6, 2004, at 10:24 PM, Craig Hoffman wrote:
Someone tell me why this isn't working? I keep getting a parser error 
on line 36 (the last include).   I'm running PHP 4.3.5 if that helps.

include (include/dbadmin.php);
include (jpgraph/src/jpgraph.php);   
include (jpgraph/src/jpgraph_bar.php);
Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_INCLUDE in 
/Users/choffman/Sites/www/cyclistsedge/top_performace.php on line 36

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Re: [PHP-DB] include function

2004-04-06 Thread Marcjon Louwersheimer
did you make sure the previous line had a ; at the end? Check that first.


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Someone tell me why this isn't working? I keep getting a parser error 
on line 36 (the last include).   I'm running PHP 4.3.5 if that helps.

include (include/dbadmin.php);
include (jpgraph/src/jpgraph.php);   
include (jpgraph/src/jpgraph_bar.php);

Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_INCLUDE in 
/Users/choffman/Sites/www/cyclistsedge/top_performace.php on line 36

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RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman

 So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
 /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that is
limited to your account. So, when you try to include /includes/dblib.inc
it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory called
includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.

If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should only
have to say:
 include(dblib.inc);

However, if you have this layout:
 /your/account/dir/main/page.php
 /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
 /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc

Then page.php would have to say:
 include(../includes/dblib.inc);

Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory, and
then it could find dblib.inc

I would definitely add:
 error_reporting(2039);

...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any errors.
Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company if
you're not sure). 

I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the problem
with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or httpd.conf
file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever have
to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.

- Jonathan

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From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Thanks Jonathan,
I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.  In
/main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't work,
I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that didn't
work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini file
for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went and
changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it to
work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from within
/main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change in
the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
restarting apache each time I change php.ini.

So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from /main/page.php
by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

dblib.inc has functions that do connections and queries to a mysql database.
Even stranger yet, is that I have one other include file called userlib.inc
that has authentication related session functions.  Well, that hasn't worked
at all no matter what, unless I put the functions in /includes/userlib.inc
directly into the file /main/page.php.  Once there, all the functions work
fine.  Otherwise, the only error messages I get are regarding unknown
functions being referenced, yet, I never get an error that the include files
can't be found.  It's all crazy to me.

Currently, both of my include files are called directly with two lines like:

include(dblib.inc);
include(userlib.inc);

They are both located in /main/ along side page.php which is calling them.
They both seem to work this way, but as soon as I place them in /includes/
and try to call them using:

include(includes/dblib.inc);
include(includes/userlib.inc);

I get errors saying that the functions can't be found, however, no errors
saying it can't find the include files??

Lastly, even with both include files in /main/ I still have some strange
problem with my userlib.inc file because the single function that is in
there won't work unless the function is pasted directly into /main/page.php.

I think I've made this message way too long but I appreciate your help.
I've got the page working reliably with the functions all pasted into
page.php but not while including those functions.  I just can't think of
what could be making it difference.  The functions are all the same, just
running from an include file is a problem.

Thanks again, just writing this up has helped to make more sense to me.  I
think the crux of the whole thing is the path.  I'm using to including files
in ASP and those can be relative so something like ../includes/dblib.inc
works great.

...Brad




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RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread JD Daniels


I have found the best way for me is always include with the fullpath ie,

include(/usr/httpd/mysite/include.inc);

or:

include($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT']/include.inc);

Then you can include files that are elswhere:

include(/usr/httpd/virtual-domain-includes/multi-user-include.inc);

these will work no matter what dir or sub dir the page calling the include
is in...

(I haven't Followed This entire thread.. so sorry if I missed something)

JD

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From: Jonathan Hilgeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:10 AM
To: 'Brad Melendy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
 /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that is
limited to your account. So, when you try to include /includes/dblib.inc
it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory called
includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.

If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should only
have to say:
 include(dblib.inc);

However, if you have this layout:
 /your/account/dir/main/page.php
 /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
 /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc

Then page.php would have to say:
 include(../includes/dblib.inc);

Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory, and
then it could find dblib.inc

I would definitely add:
 error_reporting(2039);

...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any errors.
Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company if
you're not sure).

I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the problem
with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or httpd.conf
file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever have
to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.

- Jonathan

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From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Thanks Jonathan,
I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.  In
/main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't work,
I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that didn't
work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini file
for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went and
changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it to
work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from within
/main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change in
the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
restarting apache each time I change php.ini.

So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from /main/page.php
by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

dblib.inc has functions that do connections and queries to a mysql database.
Even stranger yet, is that I have one other include file called userlib.inc
that has authentication related session functions.  Well, that hasn't worked
at all no matter what, unless I put the functions in /includes/userlib.inc
directly into the file /main/page.php.  Once there, all the functions work
fine.  Otherwise, the only error messages I get are regarding unknown
functions being referenced, yet, I never get an error that the include files
can't be found.  It's all crazy to me.

Currently, both of my include files are called directly with two lines like:

include(dblib.inc);
include(userlib.inc);

They are both located in /main/ along side page.php which is calling them.
They both seem to work this way, but as soon as I place them in /includes/
and try to call them using:

include(includes/dblib.inc);
include(includes/userlib.inc);

I get errors saying that the functions can't be found, however, no errors
saying it can't find the include files??

Lastly, even with both include files in /main/ I still have some strange
problem with my userlib.inc file because the single function that is in
there won't work unless the function is pasted directly into /main/page.php.

I think I've made this message way too long but I appreciate your help.
I've got the page working reliably with the functions all pasted into
page.php but not while including those functions.  I just can't think of
what could be making it difference.  The functions are all the same, just
running from an include file is a problem.

Thanks again, just writing this up has helped to make more sense to me.  I
think the crux of the whole thing is the path.  I'm using to including files
in ASP and those can be relative so something like ../includes/dblib.inc
works great.

...Brad




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Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread Brad Melendy

Thanks Jonathan,
Your suggestions were very helpful, especially turning on the error logging.
Here is where I'm at now:

Files in use:
/include/dblib.inc
/include/userlib.inc
/main/page.php

My include statements in /main/page.php:
include(../include/dblib.inc);
include(../include/userlib.inc);

All the fuctions I call from dblib.inc work great, however, I have only a
single function in userlib.inc and it generates an error.  The error I get
is:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: cleansession()

Here is the file userlib.inc:

php?
session_start();
session_register( session );

function cleanSession( $id, $login, $pass )
 {
 global $session;
 $session[id] = $id;
 $session[login] = $login;
 $session[password] = $pass;
 $session[logged_in] = true;
 }
?

Lastly, if I paste the above function  into page.php (without the
session_start and session_register lines) it works fine.  I've tried giving
the function a different name, changing case, all sorts of stuff.  I've
tried renaming it to userlib.php and I've opened the file directly in my
browser with the error_reporting(2039); at the top and no error messages,
yet it is as if the file never gets included.  I've tried including ONLY
userlib.inc and pasting all the dblib.inc functions into page.php (to rule
out dblib.inc screwing things up) and still I get the error.

I am truly confounded at this point.  Thanks for any suggestions you have.
I think I am almost out of Include Statement Hell.  ;-)

...Brad

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  So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
  /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

 Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that
is
 limited to your account. So, when you try to include /includes/dblib.inc
 it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory
called
 includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.

 If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should
only
 have to say:
  include(dblib.inc);

 However, if you have this layout:
  /your/account/dir/main/page.php
  /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
  /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc

 Then page.php would have to say:
  include(../includes/dblib.inc);

 Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory,
and
 then it could find dblib.inc

 I would definitely add:
  error_reporting(2039);

 ...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any errors.
 Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company
if
 you're not sure).

 I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the problem
 with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or httpd.conf
 file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever have
 to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.

 - Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Thanks Jonathan,
 I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.  In
 /main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't
work,
 I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that didn't
 work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini file
 for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went
and
 changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it
to
 work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from within
 /main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change in
 the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
 restarting apache each time I change php.ini.

 So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
/main/page.php
 by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

 dblib.inc has functions that do connections and queries to a mysql
database.
 Even stranger yet, is that I have one other include file called
userlib.inc
 that has authentication related session functions.  Well, that hasn't
worked
 at all no matter what, unless I put the functions in /includes/userlib.inc
 directly into the file /main/page.php.  Once there, all the functions work
 fine.  Otherwise, the only error messages I get are regarding unknown
 functions being referenced, yet, I never get an error that the include
files
 can't be found.  It's all crazy to me.

 Currently, both of my include files are called directly with two lines
like:

 include(dblib.inc);
 include(userlib.inc);

 They are both located in /main/ along side page.php which is calling them.
 They both seem to work this way, but as soon as I place them in /includes/
 and try to call them using:

 include(includes/dblib.inc);
 include(includes/userlib.inc);

 I get errors saying that the functio

RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman

This might be your problem:
php?

Try:
?php

:)

- Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Thanks Jonathan,
Your suggestions were very helpful, especially turning on the error logging.
Here is where I'm at now:

Files in use:
/include/dblib.inc
/include/userlib.inc
/main/page.php

My include statements in /main/page.php:
include(../include/dblib.inc);
include(../include/userlib.inc);

All the fuctions I call from dblib.inc work great, however, I have only a
single function in userlib.inc and it generates an error.  The error I get
is:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: cleansession()

Here is the file userlib.inc:

php?
session_start();
session_register( session );

function cleanSession( $id, $login, $pass )
 {
 global $session;
 $session[id] = $id;
 $session[login] = $login;
 $session[password] = $pass;
 $session[logged_in] = true;
 }
?

Lastly, if I paste the above function  into page.php (without the
session_start and session_register lines) it works fine.  I've tried giving
the function a different name, changing case, all sorts of stuff.  I've
tried renaming it to userlib.php and I've opened the file directly in my
browser with the error_reporting(2039); at the top and no error messages,
yet it is as if the file never gets included.  I've tried including ONLY
userlib.inc and pasting all the dblib.inc functions into page.php (to rule
out dblib.inc screwing things up) and still I get the error.

I am truly confounded at this point.  Thanks for any suggestions you have.
I think I am almost out of Include Statement Hell.  ;-)

...Brad

Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
  /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

 Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that
is
 limited to your account. So, when you try to include /includes/dblib.inc
 it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory
called
 includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.

 If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should
only
 have to say:
  include(dblib.inc);

 However, if you have this layout:
  /your/account/dir/main/page.php
  /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
  /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc

 Then page.php would have to say:
  include(../includes/dblib.inc);

 Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory,
and
 then it could find dblib.inc

 I would definitely add:
  error_reporting(2039);

 ...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any errors.
 Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company
if
 you're not sure).

 I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the problem
 with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or httpd.conf
 file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever have
 to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.

 - Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Thanks Jonathan,
 I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.  In
 /main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't
work,
 I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that didn't
 work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini file
 for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went
and
 changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it
to
 work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from within
 /main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change in
 the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
 restarting apache each time I change php.ini.

 So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
/main/page.php
 by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

 dblib.inc has functions that do connections and queries to a mysql
database.
 Even stranger yet, is that I have one other include file called
userlib.inc
 that has authentication related session functions.  Well, that hasn't
worked
 at all no matter what, unless I put the functions in /includes/userlib.inc
 directly into the file /main/page.php.  Once there, all the functions work
 fine.  Otherwise, the only error messages I get are regarding unknown
 functions being referenced, yet, I never get an error that the include
files
 can't be found.  It's all crazy to me.

 Currently, both of my include files are called directly with two lines
like:

 include(dblib.inc);
 include(userlib.inc);

 They are both located in /main/ al

RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman

You should also put quotes around your keys in your arrays if they're
non-numeric. For instance:
$session[logged_in] instead of $session[logged_in]

It's good coding habit, and it sometimes will save you from some constant
headaches (pun intended for everyone who has run into this problem before).

- Jonathan



-Original Message-
From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Thanks Jonathan,
Your suggestions were very helpful, especially turning on the error logging.
Here is where I'm at now:

Files in use:
/include/dblib.inc
/include/userlib.inc
/main/page.php

My include statements in /main/page.php:
include(../include/dblib.inc);
include(../include/userlib.inc);

All the fuctions I call from dblib.inc work great, however, I have only a
single function in userlib.inc and it generates an error.  The error I get
is:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: cleansession()

Here is the file userlib.inc:

php?
session_start();
session_register( session );

function cleanSession( $id, $login, $pass )
 {
 global $session;
 $session[id] = $id;
 $session[login] = $login;
 $session[password] = $pass;
 $session[logged_in] = true;
 }
?

Lastly, if I paste the above function  into page.php (without the
session_start and session_register lines) it works fine.  I've tried giving
the function a different name, changing case, all sorts of stuff.  I've
tried renaming it to userlib.php and I've opened the file directly in my
browser with the error_reporting(2039); at the top and no error messages,
yet it is as if the file never gets included.  I've tried including ONLY
userlib.inc and pasting all the dblib.inc functions into page.php (to rule
out dblib.inc screwing things up) and still I get the error.

I am truly confounded at this point.  Thanks for any suggestions you have.
I think I am almost out of Include Statement Hell.  ;-)

...Brad

Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
  /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

 Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that
is
 limited to your account. So, when you try to include /includes/dblib.inc
 it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory
called
 includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.

 If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should
only
 have to say:
  include(dblib.inc);

 However, if you have this layout:
  /your/account/dir/main/page.php
  /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
  /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc

 Then page.php would have to say:
  include(../includes/dblib.inc);

 Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory,
and
 then it could find dblib.inc

 I would definitely add:
  error_reporting(2039);

 ...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any errors.
 Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company
if
 you're not sure).

 I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the problem
 with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or httpd.conf
 file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever have
 to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.

 - Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Thanks Jonathan,
 I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.  In
 /main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't
work,
 I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that didn't
 work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini file
 for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went
and
 changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it
to
 work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from within
 /main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change in
 the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
 restarting apache each time I change php.ini.

 So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
/main/page.php
 by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

 dblib.inc has functions that do connections and queries to a mysql
database.
 Even stranger yet, is that I have one other include file called
userlib.inc
 that has authentication related session functions.  Well, that hasn't
worked
 at all no matter what, unless I put the functions in /includes/userlib.inc
 directly into the file /main/page.php.  Once there, all the functions work
 fine.  Otherwise, the only error messages I get are regarding unknown
 functions being referenced

Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread Brad Melendy

Man, this means I have to walk around the block with a sign on my back
saying, I'm a %*$-ASS for letting that one get by.  ;-)  Thanks a ton
Jonathan.  It of course, works now.  I think it will be a while before I
make that mistake again.

...Brad

Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 This might be your problem:
 php?

 Try:
 ?php

 :)

 - Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Thanks Jonathan,
 Your suggestions were very helpful, especially turning on the error
logging.
 Here is where I'm at now:

 Files in use:
 /include/dblib.inc
 /include/userlib.inc
 /main/page.php

 My include statements in /main/page.php:
 include(../include/dblib.inc);
 include(../include/userlib.inc);

 All the fuctions I call from dblib.inc work great, however, I have only a
 single function in userlib.inc and it generates an error.  The error I get
 is:

 Fatal error: Call to undefined function: cleansession()

 Here is the file userlib.inc:

 php?
 session_start();
 session_register( session );

 function cleanSession( $id, $login, $pass )
  {
  global $session;
  $session[id] = $id;
  $session[login] = $login;
  $session[password] = $pass;
  $session[logged_in] = true;
  }
 ?

 Lastly, if I paste the above function  into page.php (without the
 session_start and session_register lines) it works fine.  I've tried
giving
 the function a different name, changing case, all sorts of stuff.  I've
 tried renaming it to userlib.php and I've opened the file directly in my
 browser with the error_reporting(2039); at the top and no error messages,
 yet it is as if the file never gets included.  I've tried including ONLY
 userlib.inc and pasting all the dblib.inc functions into page.php (to rule
 out dblib.inc screwing things up) and still I get the error.

 I am truly confounded at this point.  Thanks for any suggestions you have.
 I think I am almost out of Include Statement Hell.  ;-)

 ...Brad

 Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
   /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?
 
  Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that
 is
  limited to your account. So, when you try to include
/includes/dblib.inc
  it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory
 called
  includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.
 
  If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should
 only
  have to say:
   include(dblib.inc);
 
  However, if you have this layout:
   /your/account/dir/main/page.php
   /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
   /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc
 
  Then page.php would have to say:
   include(../includes/dblib.inc);
 
  Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory,
 and
  then it could find dblib.inc
 
  I would definitely add:
   error_reporting(2039);
 
  ...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any
errors.
  Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company
 if
  you're not sure).
 
  I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the
problem
  with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or
httpd.conf
  file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever
have
  to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.
 
  - Jonathan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!
 
 
  Thanks Jonathan,
  I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.
In
  /main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't
 work,
  I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that
didn't
  work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini
file
  for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went
 and
  changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it
 to
  work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from
within
  /main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change
in
  the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
  restarting apache each time I change php.ini.
 
  So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
 /main/page.php
  by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?
 
  dblib.inc has functions that do connections and queries to a mysql
 database.
  Even stranger yet, is that I have one other include file called
 userlib.inc
  that has authentication related session functions.  Well, that hasn't
 worked
  at all no matter wh

RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman

No problem. I wonder if there's a web-based syntax checker for PHP...

- Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Man, this means I have to walk around the block with a sign on my back
saying, I'm a %*$-ASS for letting that one get by.  ;-)  Thanks a ton
Jonathan.  It of course, works now.  I think it will be a while before I
make that mistake again.

...Brad

Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 This might be your problem:
 php?

 Try:
 ?php

 :)

 - Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Thanks Jonathan,
 Your suggestions were very helpful, especially turning on the error
logging.
 Here is where I'm at now:

 Files in use:
 /include/dblib.inc
 /include/userlib.inc
 /main/page.php

 My include statements in /main/page.php:
 include(../include/dblib.inc);
 include(../include/userlib.inc);

 All the fuctions I call from dblib.inc work great, however, I have only a
 single function in userlib.inc and it generates an error.  The error I get
 is:

 Fatal error: Call to undefined function: cleansession()

 Here is the file userlib.inc:

 php?
 session_start();
 session_register( session );

 function cleanSession( $id, $login, $pass )
  {
  global $session;
  $session[id] = $id;
  $session[login] = $login;
  $session[password] = $pass;
  $session[logged_in] = true;
  }
 ?

 Lastly, if I paste the above function  into page.php (without the
 session_start and session_register lines) it works fine.  I've tried
giving
 the function a different name, changing case, all sorts of stuff.  I've
 tried renaming it to userlib.php and I've opened the file directly in my
 browser with the error_reporting(2039); at the top and no error messages,
 yet it is as if the file never gets included.  I've tried including ONLY
 userlib.inc and pasting all the dblib.inc functions into page.php (to rule
 out dblib.inc screwing things up) and still I get the error.

 I am truly confounded at this point.  Thanks for any suggestions you have.
 I think I am almost out of Include Statement Hell.  ;-)

 ...Brad

 Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
   /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?
 
  Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that
 is
  limited to your account. So, when you try to include
/includes/dblib.inc
  it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory
 called
  includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.
 
  If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should
 only
  have to say:
   include(dblib.inc);
 
  However, if you have this layout:
   /your/account/dir/main/page.php
   /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
   /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc
 
  Then page.php would have to say:
   include(../includes/dblib.inc);
 
  Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory,
 and
  then it could find dblib.inc
 
  I would definitely add:
   error_reporting(2039);
 
  ...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any
errors.
  Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company
 if
  you're not sure).
 
  I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the
problem
  with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or
httpd.conf
  file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever
have
  to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.
 
  - Jonathan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!
 
 
  Thanks Jonathan,
  I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.
In
  /main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't
 work,
  I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that
didn't
  work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini
file
  for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went
 and
  changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it
 to
  work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from
within
  /main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change
in
  the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
  restarting apache each time I change php.ini.
 
  So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
 /main/page.php
  by using a path of /includes/dblib.in

Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-28 Thread Brad Melendy

I'll do that Jonathan.  I want to thank you again, and everyone else that
gave me suggestions.  I think I finally understand all the 'rules' about the
include statement AND that I've got to keep a close eye on my typos.  Thanks
once again!

...Brad :-)

Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 You should also put quotes around your keys in your arrays if they're
 non-numeric. For instance:
 $session[logged_in] instead of $session[logged_in]

 It's good coding habit, and it sometimes will save you from some
constant
 headaches (pun intended for everyone who has run into this problem
before).

 - Jonathan



 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 12:06 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Thanks Jonathan,
 Your suggestions were very helpful, especially turning on the error
logging.
 Here is where I'm at now:

 Files in use:
 /include/dblib.inc
 /include/userlib.inc
 /main/page.php

 My include statements in /main/page.php:
 include(../include/dblib.inc);
 include(../include/userlib.inc);

 All the fuctions I call from dblib.inc work great, however, I have only a
 single function in userlib.inc and it generates an error.  The error I get
 is:

 Fatal error: Call to undefined function: cleansession()

 Here is the file userlib.inc:

 php?
 session_start();
 session_register( session );

 function cleanSession( $id, $login, $pass )
  {
  global $session;
  $session[id] = $id;
  $session[login] = $login;
  $session[password] = $pass;
  $session[logged_in] = true;
  }
 ?

 Lastly, if I paste the above function  into page.php (without the
 session_start and session_register lines) it works fine.  I've tried
giving
 the function a different name, changing case, all sorts of stuff.  I've
 tried renaming it to userlib.php and I've opened the file directly in my
 browser with the error_reporting(2039); at the top and no error messages,
 yet it is as if the file never gets included.  I've tried including ONLY
 userlib.inc and pasting all the dblib.inc functions into page.php (to rule
 out dblib.inc screwing things up) and still I get the error.

 I am truly confounded at this point.  Thanks for any suggestions you have.
 I think I am almost out of Include Statement Hell.  ;-)

 ...Brad

 Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
   /main/page.php by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?
 
  Probably not. PHP can see the whole filesystem, not just the area that
 is
  limited to your account. So, when you try to include
/includes/dblib.inc
  it is trying to go down to the SYSTEM root and open up a subdirectory
 called
  includes and get the file dblib.inc inside it.
 
  If you copy the dblib.inc to the same directory as page.php, you should
 only
  have to say:
   include(dblib.inc);
 
  However, if you have this layout:
   /your/account/dir/main/page.php
   /your/account/dir/includes/dblib.inc
   /your/account/dir/includes/userlib.inc
 
  Then page.php would have to say:
   include(../includes/dblib.inc);
 
  Which would go back one directory, THEN into the includes subdirectory,
 and
  then it could find dblib.inc
 
  I would definitely add:
   error_reporting(2039);
 
  ...to the top of your page.php code to see if you can pick up any
errors.
  Also, check your error log if you have one (contact your hosting company
 if
  you're not sure).
 
  I would definitely try to solve this the normal way by finding the
problem
  with the paths rather than trying to screw with your php.ini or
httpd.conf
  file - otherwise you'll have a script that might not work if you ever
have
  to move your scripts or copy them to a development server or something.
 
  - Jonathan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:27 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!
 
 
  Thanks Jonathan,
  I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.
In
  /main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't
 work,
  I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that
didn't
  work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini
file
  for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went
 and
  changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it
 to
  work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from
within
  /main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change
in
  the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
  restarting apache each time I change php.ini.
 
  So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from
 /main/page.php
  by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?
 

RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Rick Emery

did you start each include file with:
?php
?

If not, PHP treats the code within as straight text

-Original Message-
From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Ok, I've spent some time reading the docs at php.net and I'm still confused.

After a couple hours, I have an include file working with a statement like:

include (dblib.inc);

However, to add to my confusion, I've got a second include file statement on
the next line:

include (userlib.inc);

And that doesn't work.

Most crazy of all, if I just put the darn functions all in the PHP file that
is trying to call the include files, everything works perfectly.

So far I have my include_path line in the pho.ini file set to no value since
I'm just using include files that exist in the same directory as the calling
php file.  this after I could NOT get the files to be properly recognized
from their own include directory.  As far as I'm concerned, you should be
able to include a relative path with the included filename and have it work.
Too bad that doesn't work in PHP.

So, long story short, I'm about to give up on include statements and just
copy and paste my functions all over the place.  Does anyone have any ideas
why this is so difficult for me?  What am I missing?  This stuff is easy in
ASP but PHP is giving me serious heart-ache.  :-(

Thanks for any tips or suggestions.

Brad



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RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Jonathan Hilgeman

#1. You may want to double-check the path where you're calling it from in
case you're working with subdirectories. 

Let's saying you access a page at www.domain.com/page.php which calls
www.domain.com/includes/header.inc.
Then, header.inc includes the dblib.inc file at
www.domain.com/includes/dblib.inc. However, the include's base directory
will still be in page.php - the directory won't change to includes, so for
header.inc to include dblib.inc, it has to say:
  include(includes/dblib.inc);
NOT
  include(dblib.inc);
Otherwise, it will be trying to include www.domain.com/dblib.inc because the
page that started the whole chain reaction of includes is located at
www.domain.com/page.php

#2. If you have error reporting turned off, and there is a parsing error in
your files, the page may just die without giving a reason. Try turning off
any error reporting and also access those include files like userlib.inc
directly in your web browser to see if PHP reports any errors. You may need
to change the extension to something like userlib.inc.php for the web server
to recognize the request correctly. 

#3. Please give us a little more detail on the errors you're getting (any
specific messages would be nice).

- Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Rick Emery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:42 PM
To: 'Brad Melendy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


did you start each include file with:
?php
?

If not, PHP treats the code within as straight text

-Original Message-
From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Ok, I've spent some time reading the docs at php.net and I'm still confused.

After a couple hours, I have an include file working with a statement like:

include (dblib.inc);

However, to add to my confusion, I've got a second include file statement on
the next line:

include (userlib.inc);

And that doesn't work.

Most crazy of all, if I just put the darn functions all in the PHP file that
is trying to call the include files, everything works perfectly.

So far I have my include_path line in the pho.ini file set to no value since
I'm just using include files that exist in the same directory as the calling
php file.  this after I could NOT get the files to be properly recognized
from their own include directory.  As far as I'm concerned, you should be
able to include a relative path with the included filename and have it work.
Too bad that doesn't work in PHP.

So, long story short, I'm about to give up on include statements and just
copy and paste my functions all over the place.  Does anyone have any ideas
why this is so difficult for me?  What am I missing?  This stuff is easy in
ASP but PHP is giving me serious heart-ache.  :-(

Thanks for any tips or suggestions.

Brad



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Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Brad Melendy

Hi Rick,
Yes, this is the first thing I checked.  Thanks for your suggestion.

...Brad

Rick Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 did you start each include file with:
 ?php
 ?

 If not, PHP treats the code within as straight text

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Ok, I've spent some time reading the docs at php.net and I'm still
confused.

 After a couple hours, I have an include file working with a statement
like:

 include (dblib.inc);

 However, to add to my confusion, I've got a second include file statement
on
 the next line:

 include (userlib.inc);

 And that doesn't work.

 Most crazy of all, if I just put the darn functions all in the PHP file
that
 is trying to call the include files, everything works perfectly.

 So far I have my include_path line in the pho.ini file set to no value
since
 I'm just using include files that exist in the same directory as the
calling
 php file.  this after I could NOT get the files to be properly recognized
 from their own include directory.  As far as I'm concerned, you should be
 able to include a relative path with the included filename and have it
work.
 Too bad that doesn't work in PHP.

 So, long story short, I'm about to give up on include statements and just
 copy and paste my functions all over the place.  Does anyone have any
ideas
 why this is so difficult for me?  What am I missing?  This stuff is easy
in
 ASP but PHP is giving me serious heart-ache.  :-(

 Thanks for any tips or suggestions.

 Brad



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Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Brad Melendy

Thanks Jonathan,
I'm trying to include a file /includes/dblib.inc from /main/page.php.  In
/main/page.php I use include(includes/dblib.inc);.  When that didn't work,
I tried copying the file to /main/ and including it there and that didn't
work either.  Finally, I tried adding a specific path to the php.ini file
for includes_path and put the files there and that worked.  Then I went and
changed the php.ini file to remove the reference (still trying to get it to
work the way I THINK it should) and then it WORKED!  But ONLY from within
/main/.  Each time I make these changes, I am making a matching change in
the actual include() statement at the top of /main/page.php and I am
restarting apache each time I change php.ini.

So, maybe this is the question.  Can you include a file from /main/page.php
by using a path of /includes/dblib.inc?

dblib.inc has functions that do connections and queries to a mysql database.
Even stranger yet, is that I have one other include file called userlib.inc
that has authentication related session functions.  Well, that hasn't worked
at all no matter what, unless I put the functions in /includes/userlib.inc
directly into the file /main/page.php.  Once there, all the functions work
fine.  Otherwise, the only error messages I get are regarding unknown
functions being referenced, yet, I never get an error that the include files
can't be found.  It's all crazy to me.

Currently, both of my include files are called directly with two lines like:

include(dblib.inc);
include(userlib.inc);

They are both located in /main/ along side page.php which is calling them.
They both seem to work this way, but as soon as I place them in /includes/
and try to call them using:

include(includes/dblib.inc);
include(includes/userlib.inc);

I get errors saying that the functions can't be found, however, no errors
saying it can't find the include files??

Lastly, even with both include files in /main/ I still have some strange
problem with my userlib.inc file because the single function that is in
there won't work unless the function is pasted directly into /main/page.php.

I think I've made this message way too long but I appreciate your help.
I've got the page working reliably with the functions all pasted into
page.php but not while including those functions.  I just can't think of
what could be making it difference.  The functions are all the same, just
running from an include file is a problem.

Thanks again, just writing this up has helped to make more sense to me.  I
think the crux of the whole thing is the path.  I'm using to including files
in ASP and those can be relative so something like ../includes/dblib.inc
works great.

...Brad



Jonathan Hilgeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 #1. You may want to double-check the path where you're calling it from in
 case you're working with subdirectories.

 Let's saying you access a page at www.domain.com/page.php which calls
 www.domain.com/includes/header.inc.
 Then, header.inc includes the dblib.inc file at
 www.domain.com/includes/dblib.inc. However, the include's base directory
 will still be in page.php - the directory won't change to includes, so for
 header.inc to include dblib.inc, it has to say:
   include(includes/dblib.inc);
 NOT
   include(dblib.inc);
 Otherwise, it will be trying to include www.domain.com/dblib.inc because
the
 page that started the whole chain reaction of includes is located at
 www.domain.com/page.php

 #2. If you have error reporting turned off, and there is a parsing error
in
 your files, the page may just die without giving a reason. Try turning off
 any error reporting and also access those include files like userlib.inc
 directly in your web browser to see if PHP reports any errors. You may
need
 to change the extension to something like userlib.inc.php for the web
server
 to recognize the request correctly.

 #3. Please give us a little more detail on the errors you're getting (any
 specific messages would be nice).

 - Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Emery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:42 PM
 To: 'Brad Melendy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 did you start each include file with:
 ?php
 ?

 If not, PHP treats the code within as straight text

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Ok, I've spent some time reading the docs at php.net and I'm still
confused.

 After a couple hours, I have an include file working with a statement
like:

 include (dblib.inc);

 However, to add to my confusion, I've got a second include file statement
on
 the next line:

 include (userlib.inc);

 And that doesn't work.

 Most crazy of all, if I just put the darn functions all in the PHP file
that
 is trying to call the include files, everythi

RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Dan Brunner

Has anybody told him to check his PHP.INI???

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

#1. You may want to double-check the path where you're calling it from
in
case you're working with subdirectories. 

Let's saying you access a page at www.domain.com/page.php which calls
www.domain.com/includes/header.inc.
Then, header.inc includes the dblib.inc file at
www.domain.com/includes/dblib.inc. However, the include's base directory
will still be in page.php - the directory won't change to includes, so
for
header.inc to include dblib.inc, it has to say:
  include(includes/dblib.inc);
NOT
  include(dblib.inc);
Otherwise, it will be trying to include www.domain.com/dblib.inc because
the
page that started the whole chain reaction of includes is located at
www.domain.com/page.php

#2. If you have error reporting turned off, and there is a parsing error
in
your files, the page may just die without giving a reason. Try turning
off
any error reporting and also access those include files like userlib.inc
directly in your web browser to see if PHP reports any errors. You may
need
to change the extension to something like userlib.inc.php for the web
server
to recognize the request correctly. 

#3. Please give us a little more detail on the errors you're getting
(any
specific messages would be nice).

- Jonathan

-Original Message-
From: Rick Emery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:42 PM
To: 'Brad Melendy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


did you start each include file with:
?php
?

If not, PHP treats the code within as straight text

-Original Message-
From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


Ok, I've spent some time reading the docs at php.net and I'm still
confused.

After a couple hours, I have an include file working with a statement
like:

include (dblib.inc);

However, to add to my confusion, I've got a second include file
statement on
the next line:

include (userlib.inc);

And that doesn't work.

Most crazy of all, if I just put the darn functions all in the PHP file
that
is trying to call the include files, everything works perfectly.

So far I have my include_path line in the pho.ini file set to no value
since
I'm just using include files that exist in the same directory as the
calling
php file.  this after I could NOT get the files to be properly
recognized
from their own include directory.  As far as I'm concerned, you should
be
able to include a relative path with the included filename and have it
work.
Too bad that doesn't work in PHP.

So, long story short, I'm about to give up on include statements and
just
copy and paste my functions all over the place.  Does anyone have any
ideas
why this is so difficult for me?  What am I missing?  This stuff is easy
in
ASP but PHP is giving me serious heart-ache.  :-(

Thanks for any tips or suggestions.

Brad



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RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Photocon

At 22:41 3/27/2002 -0600, Dan Brunner wrote:
Has anybody told him to check his PHP.INI???

How about adding the following to httpd.conf:

php_value include_path .:/usr/share/php:/path/to/webpages


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Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Brad Melendy

The thing that sucks about having to rely upon the php.ini file is that the
you must use a particular folder for all your include files, even if you are
using files for several different sites.  It makes much more sense to be
able to put your include files for a particular site in that site.  It's
easier for backups, moving the site and for shared hosting.  I've gotten it
to work partially using the folder defined in the php.ini file, but I want
to be able to specifiy a folder from within the calling php file, which is
how you should be able to do it.

...Brad


Dan Brunner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
01c1d612$e94f0570$b3f7a718@doggy">news:01c1d612$e94f0570$b3f7a718@doggy...
 Has anybody told him to check his PHP.INI???

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 6:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

 #1. You may want to double-check the path where you're calling it from
 in
 case you're working with subdirectories.

 Let's saying you access a page at www.domain.com/page.php which calls
 www.domain.com/includes/header.inc.
 Then, header.inc includes the dblib.inc file at
 www.domain.com/includes/dblib.inc. However, the include's base directory
 will still be in page.php - the directory won't change to includes, so
 for
 header.inc to include dblib.inc, it has to say:
   include(includes/dblib.inc);
 NOT
   include(dblib.inc);
 Otherwise, it will be trying to include www.domain.com/dblib.inc because
 the
 page that started the whole chain reaction of includes is located at
 www.domain.com/page.php

 #2. If you have error reporting turned off, and there is a parsing error
 in
 your files, the page may just die without giving a reason. Try turning
 off
 any error reporting and also access those include files like userlib.inc
 directly in your web browser to see if PHP reports any errors. You may
 need
 to change the extension to something like userlib.inc.php for the web
 server
 to recognize the request correctly.

 #3. Please give us a little more detail on the errors you're getting
 (any
 specific messages would be nice).

 - Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Emery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:42 PM
 To: 'Brad Melendy'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 did you start each include file with:
 ?php
 ?

 If not, PHP treats the code within as straight text

 -Original Message-
 From: Brad Melendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 5:03 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!


 Ok, I've spent some time reading the docs at php.net and I'm still
 confused.

 After a couple hours, I have an include file working with a statement
 like:

 include (dblib.inc);

 However, to add to my confusion, I've got a second include file
 statement on
 the next line:

 include (userlib.inc);

 And that doesn't work.

 Most crazy of all, if I just put the darn functions all in the PHP file
 that
 is trying to call the include files, everything works perfectly.

 So far I have my include_path line in the pho.ini file set to no value
 since
 I'm just using include files that exist in the same directory as the
 calling
 php file.  this after I could NOT get the files to be properly
 recognized
 from their own include directory.  As far as I'm concerned, you should
 be
 able to include a relative path with the included filename and have it
 work.
 Too bad that doesn't work in PHP.

 So, long story short, I'm about to give up on include statements and
 just
 copy and paste my functions all over the place.  Does anyone have any
 ideas
 why this is so difficult for me?  What am I missing?  This stuff is easy
 in
 ASP but PHP is giving me serious heart-ache.  :-(

 Thanks for any tips or suggestions.

 Brad



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Re: [PHP-DB] include() statement hell!

2002-03-27 Thread Jason Wong

On Thursday 28 March 2002 14:58, Brad Melendy wrote:
 How is this different than using the php.ini file?

 Photocon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

  At 22:41 3/27/2002 -0600, Dan Brunner wrote:
  Has anybody told him to check his PHP.INI???
 
  How about adding the following to httpd.conf:
 
  php_value include_path .:/usr/share/php:/path/to/webpages

Because you can have per-site settings which are different from those of 
php.ini.


Also you can have per-file settings by using the ini_set() function. If 
you're not able to change the httpd.conf file then just use ini_set() at the 
beginning of all your php files to specify an include path.


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Re: [PHP-DB] Include

2001-08-19 Thread Tom Carter

   Yes that is correct. On a security point of view therer is something
extra you can do.. when using require you can require files that are outside
the web tree...by this I mean are not accessible thru the internet. So if
you site was in /home/web then you could setup a directory, say
/home/web_vars and in this put these kind of files.

In the require statement you just then simple put in the full path, eg
require(/home/web_vars/vars.php);

The advantage of doing this is security When the file with such sensitive
information is included in the web tree then there are (admittedly limited)
possible scenarios in which this could be compramised. It is generally
accepted that it is sensible to avoid putting such information in the web
tree.

Hope I've been clear, let me know if you need any more advice.

 so in var.php i will put something like this

 $db=mydatabse;
 $username=myusername;
 $password=mypassword;


 and so on?


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  chuck all the common variables in var.php
 
  then just put
 
  ?php
  require(var.php);
  ?
 
  - seb
 
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  Sent: 19 August 2001 03:18
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [PHP-DB] Include
 
 
  OK here is one for you folks that know what you are doing.
 
  I am making a script and I have about 5 php files in it. That have alot
of
  the same system variables can I create one file with these settings in
it
  and if so any one want to give me some hints on this
 
  thanks again.
 
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Re: [PHP-DB] Include

2001-08-19 Thread CrossWalkCentral

Thank you I got it working good deal

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Tom Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
001201c12888$bb8a9790$0a00a8c0@bjorn">news:001201c12888$bb8a9790$0a00a8c0@bjorn...
Yes that is correct. On a security point of view therer is something
 extra you can do.. when using require you can require files that are
outside
 the web tree...by this I mean are not accessible thru the internet. So if
 you site was in /home/web then you could setup a directory, say
 /home/web_vars and in this put these kind of files.

 In the require statement you just then simple put in the full path, eg
 require(/home/web_vars/vars.php);

 The advantage of doing this is security When the file with such sensitive
 information is included in the web tree then there are (admittedly
limited)
 possible scenarios in which this could be compramised. It is generally
 accepted that it is sensible to avoid putting such information in the web
 tree.

 Hope I've been clear, let me know if you need any more advice.

  so in var.php i will put something like this
 
  $db=mydatabse;
  $username=myusername;
  $password=mypassword;
 
 
  and so on?
 
 
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   chuck all the common variables in var.php
  
   then just put
  
   ?php
   require(var.php);
   ?
  
   - seb
  
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   Sent: 19 August 2001 03:18
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [PHP-DB] Include
  
  
   OK here is one for you folks that know what you are doing.
  
   I am making a script and I have about 5 php files in it. That have
alot
 of
   the same system variables can I create one file with these settings in
 it
   and if so any one want to give me some hints on this
  
   thanks again.
  
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RE: [PHP-DB] Include

2001-08-18 Thread Seb Frost

chuck all the common variables in var.php

then just put 

?php
require(var.php);
?

- seb

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Sent: 19 August 2001 03:18
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Subject: [PHP-DB] Include


OK here is one for you folks that know what you are doing.

I am making a script and I have about 5 php files in it. That have alot of
the same system variables can I create one file with these settings in it
and if so any one want to give me some hints on this

thanks again.

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Re: [PHP-DB] Include

2001-08-18 Thread CrossWalkCentral

so in var.php i will put something like this

$db=mydatabse;
$username=myusername;
$password=mypassword;


and so on?


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Seb Frost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 chuck all the common variables in var.php

 then just put

 ?php
 require(var.php);
 ?

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 -Original Message-
 From: CrossWalkCentral [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 19 August 2001 03:18
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 Subject: [PHP-DB] Include


 OK here is one for you folks that know what you are doing.

 I am making a script and I have about 5 php files in it. That have alot of
 the same system variables can I create one file with these settings in it
 and if so any one want to give me some hints on this

 thanks again.

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Re: [PHP-DB] Include File Syntax

2001-04-27 Thread Vlad

Hi
Format of included files is the same as original .php file.:)
When you include .php file it is the same as you copy that file in your main
.php file in that place.

 This is my first time programming with PHP.  I have seen include files in
 the beginning of a php block and wonder is there a specific syntax used in
 these files and how secure this is vs code in my .php page?

 Can someone show me a small example of what the include file might look
like
 that would contain variables for  $mysql server, $username $password and
 $db_name.

 Any comments you may have about security involving files containing these
 variables and where to store them would be greatly appreciated.



 Thanks In Advance.


 Kat


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RE: [PHP-DB] Include File Syntax

2001-04-26 Thread Steve Brett

hi kat,

the include files are simply a way for repetitive code (like a connection to
a db) to be inserted into your pages.

the syntax for the files is the same as any php script and it is added to
the page at the point that you include it.

the format is 

include (page_name.php);

the pages that are included are as secure as your scripts.

Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: James McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 26 April 2001 08:15
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PHP-DB] Include File Syntax
 
 
 This is my first time programming with PHP.  I have seen 
 include files in
 the beginning of a php block and wonder is there a specific 
 syntax used in
 these files and how secure this is vs code in my .php page?
 
 Can someone show me a small example of what the include file 
 might look like
 that would contain variables for  $mysql server, $username 
 $password and
 $db_name.
 
 Any comments you may have about security involving files 
 containing these
 variables and where to store them would be greatly appreciated.
 
 
 
 Thanks In Advance.
 
 
 Kat
 
 
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