Re: [PHP-DEV] RfC: version names

2003-01-31 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, So what happens if I do this? cd php4 cvs upd and a day later do this? cd php4/ext/standard cvs upd What is the checkout date here? I've no idea, do you? I think we just should not allow submissions with test results if

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.3.0 released

2002-12-27 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi All, There is a weird line in here too: * PHP Manual: Using PHP from the command line http://www.php.net/manual/en/features.commandline.php It's this one: By default when executing make, both the CGI and CLI are built and placed as sapi/cgi/php and sapi/cgi/php respectfully

Re: [PHP-DEV] ODBTP, a possible solution for MS-SQL and other databases

2002-11-03 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, To php-dev: I feel that Robert has had a bit of a cool reception; opensource development relies on positive feedback to make progress. Sorry that I'm late :) I too think this is a very nice extension!!! We (nederland.net, hosting provider in The Netherlands) don't need this yet, but I

Re: [PHP-DEV] Forked ext/gd by default

2002-10-21 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, I think we should use forked version of gd library by default for 4.3.0. From what I hear it is already the best version of any of them out there and if it saves us any more grief, all the better. Objections? Sounds wonderful! +1 from me. Sander. -- PHP Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] auto_prepend/append: does the PHP engine cache the

2002-09-30 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, What about setting server variables? You can set them once, they stay in memory and your scripts can read them. Just an idea... Hum ... very interesting! I have no idea how to set Apache server vars but I'll definitely look into it! We do the following in our Apache virtual hosts:

[PHP-DEV] Error in zend2_example.phps

2002-07-18 Thread Sander Steffann
I think zend2_example.phps has a little error in example 6: The display function is defined as: function display() { print $this-name; print \n; } But then it is called with: print $person-getName()-display(); Either the function should use return, or the call

Re: [PHP-DEV] oo != php

2002-06-07 Thread Sander Steffann
OO IS OO... JUST BECAUSE JAVA IS OO DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE SUGGESTING MAKING JAVA AGAIN. WE ARE SUGGESTING MORE OO FEATURES. Please Pleas Please realize the difference. Im sick of people associating oo features as java features! Making php more like java would be suggesting making a public

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision

2002-06-03 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, And doesn't ZE2 address almost all of those OO related things? It does. Personally, I'm missing two things in Zend Engine 2.0: interfaces and private methods. Both are not really critical, as they don't aim at solving technical problems, but social ones during the design

Re: [PHP-DEV] ?= and %= both work, why not ?php=

2002-04-26 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, From: http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/REC-xml-20001006#sec-pi [16] PI ::='?' PITarget (S (Char* - (Char* '?' Char*)))? '?' [17] PITarget ::=Name - (('X' | 'x') ('M' | 'm') ('L' | 'l')) [3] S::=(#x20 | #x9 | #xD | #xA)+ [2] Char ::=#x9 | #xA | #xD |

Re: [PHP-DEV] Let's fork GD!

2002-04-12 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Well, as far as I understand it, simply reading an LZW compressed GIF would not violate the license. It is software that creates LZW-compressed GIF files that need to pay up. So, we could still support GIF and manipulate LZW-compressed files, but once we read it in and manipulate it,

Re: [PHP-DEV] cvs: ext/baby

2002-03-07 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Rasmus/Christine, -1,2 +1,6 Christine Lerdorf Rasmus Lerdorf +Buster (working name only) Lerdorf +Born 13:26 PDT Wednesday March 6, 2002 +Weight: 9.0 pounds +Length: 19.25 inches Congratulations! Sander. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Nostalgia

2002-02-07 Thread Sander Steffann
Please stop discussing people, and start discussing PHP. Be mature enough to let this rest. This discussion will lead nowhere. Thanks ;) Sander. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Fwd: Re: [Zend Engine 2] Case sensitivity: Conclusion(?)]

2002-02-06 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, IMHO making PHP case sensitive after being case-INsensitive for so many years is a very bad idea. The reasons are already mentioned on the list. For us (ISP in The Netherlands) the most important one is BC. We would not be able to upgrade any of our servers when this would go into PHP5. A

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Fwd: Re: [Zend Engine 2] Case sensitivity: Conclus ion(?)]

2002-02-06 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Even with the whole new object API, most of the code would work without modifications (at least mostly all of the PHP object code I got to take a look at). And if it doesn't - turning on PHP 4 compatibility should bridge the gap... Glad to hear that :) I have been thinking, and

Re: [PHP-DEV] FOSDEM 2002

2002-01-18 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Sterling and I will have a session there, it's just not updated on the site I guess. Any idea when your session will be? Sander. -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5

2002-01-02 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Always building the CGI version would also help the PEAR command line installer a lot since it currently needs a PHP binary to be executed. Yes, I had that in mind. We should get /usr/bin/php on as many machines as possible. This message from Stig S. Bakken summarises nicely what

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5

2002-01-02 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, We do exactly the same with Apache SetEnv: SetEnv media_regionaamapeldoorn SetEnv media_regioid 27 SetEnv media_module index And we get them in the PHP script with $GLOBALS['HTTP_SERVER_VARS']['media_regionaam']; Works great for us. Sander -

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: exit() / die()

2001-09-29 Thread Sander Steffann
I'm glad I read the list. Doing (a) will break several scripts that my site depends on. Ok, I was mistaken in thinking it wouldn't break (a lot of) existing code. Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:5.1.0.14.2.20010929020430.051aa2a8@localhost... Guys, Changing these

Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Versioning rules for PHP/Zend/PEAR/Extensions

2001-09-26 Thread Sander Steffann
I think the key still lies in creating a repository for C extensions where each extension can have its own release cycle. +1 one for this... :-) Sounds good. I think this would make it easier for the developers of the extensions AND the developers of the 'main' code. The drawback is that

Re: [PHP-DEV] Versioning (resent AGAIN due to lack of replies)

2001-09-17 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Very big +1 on this one (or something similar). What also would be useful is a built-in way to determine optional parts of extensions, like something to check if GD supports GIF/PNG/etc. This way, you can check the version and the optional parts. You mean this:

Re: [PHP-DEV] Versioning (resent AGAIN due to lack of replies)

2001-09-16 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, PHP_VERSION_NUM +1 from me too. Example: GD_EXT_VERSION = 30201 Very big +1 on this one (or something similar). What also would be useful is a built-in way to determine optional parts of extensions, like something to check if GD supports GIF/PNG/etc. This way, you can check the version

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-CVS] cvs: php4 /ext/standard basic_functions.c incomplete_class.c php_incomplete_class.h var.c /ext/wddx wddx.c

2001-08-06 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, Deprecate dl()? I think it's one of the most useful functions... :) How so? I can understand that people get used to it, but it's really bad. extensions should be loaded in the php.ini file. There's really no good reason for using dl() over the php.ini method. I agree with you when

[PHP-DEV] Links to companies supporting / teaching PHP

2001-06-26 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, To keep it short and simple: A related company is teaching PHP courses. Is there a place where things like this could be mentioned on the php.net site? Thanks, Sander Steffann Computel Standby BV / www.nederland.net / php.nederland.net -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net

Re: [PHP-DEV] safe_mode redesign

2001-02-04 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Jason, I also have some ideas how to improve safe_mode: - Being able to limit the hosts/ports the socket/mysql/fopen/etc functions can connect to. I have seen a few cases where a PHP user used the socket calls to send spam to a mailserver. He/she deleted the script afterwards, and nobody was

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: safe_mode redesign

2001-02-04 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Zeev, -- Quoted from Zeev: The one main problem with safe_mode in general is that the idea is problematic by definition. Security outside the OS level is prone to errors, and a false sense of security is much worse than knowing you're insecure. I agree. I think this means that either: -