Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision (was: libxml bundling)

2002-06-03 Thread Kristian Koehntopp
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:17:34AM +0300, Zeev Suraski wrote: The ease of PHP - one of its biggest advantages is also one of its biggest disadvantages. IMHO. Do you mind elaborating on that?? I think we should hash out this issue as soon as possible, because if people have a vision of

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision (was: libxml bundling)

2002-06-03 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 12:28 PM 6/3/2002, Kristian Koehntopp wrote: I think that PHP should be only as newbie hostile as security dictates (register_globals off and similar stuff). It should be as convenient and easy to use as possible. It should also provide hooks and means to reconfigure it manually for those

[PHP-DEV] PHP's vision (was: libxml bundling)

2002-06-01 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 07:12 PM 6/1/2002, Björn Schotte wrote: * Sebastian Bergmann wrote: I don't want to see changes (like those you mention later in your posting) in PHP to attract new users, but more to bind people that already use PHP, but are about to outgrow it. If you (and others) want PHP

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision (was: libxml bundling)

2002-06-01 Thread Shane Caraveo
The PHP project does not exist to create the perfect incarnation of a computer language on the planet, for CS majors to drool over and utter 'Wow!' at. It exists as a quick, powerful platform for creating web sites, in use by hundreds of thousands of people around the world. For

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision (was: libxml bundling)

2002-06-01 Thread Zeev Suraski
I agree with every word. Zeev At 12:25 AM 6/2/2002, Shane Caraveo wrote: I think PHP can be both powerful and easy to use, and I think I have an example of that in my own experience. I've got code I wrote on PHP 2 years ago, that has gone through a couple face lifts and modifications to

Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision (was: libxml bundling)

2002-06-01 Thread Dan Kalowsky
On Sun, 2 Jun 2002, Zeev Suraski wrote: At 07:12 PM 6/1/2002, Björn Schotte wrote: The ease of PHP - one of its biggest advantages is also one of its biggest disadvantages. IMHO. Do you mind elaborating on that?? While I shouldn't speak for others, I can share my take on this. PHP's ease