You could have a look at the Euro foreign exchange reference rates rom the
European Central Bank.
They also provide a regularly updated XML file:
http://www.ecb.int/stats/exchange/eurofxref/html/index.en.html
Hope it helps...
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Tom Ray [Lists]
message like /usr/sbin/sendmail: permission denied would have made
it.
Regards,
Andy
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From: Richard Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 01:01
To: Andy B.
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] mail() only working with php-cli
Cc: Andy B.
Subject: Re: [PHP] mail() only working with php-cli
Hello Andy,
did you take a look into the apache log files?
Regards,
Oliver
Am Samstag, 5. Mai 2007 22:53 schrieb Andy B.:
Is there any way to debug the mail() function within PHP4 or PHP5?
The following code is not working
Is there any way to debug the mail() function within PHP4 or PHP5?
The following code is not working when called from a browser, but it does
work from the command line:
?php
$to = '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
$subject = 'the subject';
$message = 'hello...';
$headers = 'From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
tested with E_ALL
and also dumping errors/warnings into log files...
Andy
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From: Tijnema ! [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 23:58
To: Andy B.
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Subject: Re: [PHP] mail() only working with php-cli
Are you sure
Hi.
Is there any GUI editors out there for php? if so does anybody know of a
good one that doesnt cost a ton of money??
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Hi.
I was just wondering where I can find info on how to use a MultiSelect List
Box with PHP? I need to use it with MYSQL 5.0.0, PHP 4.3.9, and windows XP
sp2.
Any help/leads would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Eric Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 3:06 AM
To: Andy B
Subject: Re: [PHP] MultiSelect List Box in PHP
it's just likes you used in normal html javascript,
but the code that generated to control the ui are now moved to server-sided
I need to be able to print the selected items without the array... thing
around it. so example would be if 1 and 2 are selected it would print:
1, 2
it's supposed to be formatted for the user...
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Subject: Re: [PHP] MultiSelect List Box in PHP
implode()
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hi...
i have to make an adult content censoring system so people cant post bad
words on any public viewable posts. i know preg_replace and possibaly
preg_match would be a huge help but im wondering how i would put all the bad
words in a file (textfile) 1 word on a line and have it look through
hi...
the reason that mail() wont work on windows without an smtp server (outgoing
mail server) is because normally windows doesnt have a mail server
installed. the default smtp settings in php.ini usually is for *nix systems
(that is if it is even set).
it is very easy to fix:
go into
hi...
we are upgrading test servers to xp home and want to know if its possible to
run php/apache/mysql and all that sort of stuff on ntfs or does the servers
have to run fat32??
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does anybody have any idea why this message keeps coming up every time i
send a msg to the list?? im sort of confused now
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Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: NDN: [PHP] php/apache/mysql on ntfs
Sorry
try javascript
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From: gowthaman ramasamy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 8:11 AM
Subject: [PHP] mouse over problem on php
hi list ,
In the web page, i display different bars (actually tables with single
column, with
hi...
i have a string i want to pull out of a database (mysql). the column name is
Phone1 and it is a 10 digit phone number. the raw string coming out of the
table column would look like this: 1234567890
what i want to do is format the string on display like this: (123)456-7890
but dont quite
[snip]
$phone = '1234567890';
$newphone = preg_replace('/(\d{3})(\d{3})(\d)/','(\1)\2-\3',$phone);
echo $newphone.'br';
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[/snip]
ok sorry but since i never used preg_* before i dont quite get what some of
this stuff means. i looked at the doc page for it but it doesnt make mention
select version as version; if used directly in the server (i.e. mysql)...
if you want to use it in php:
$query=select version() as mysql_version;
$result=mysql_query($query) or die();
if(!$result){
echo cant determine mysql version;
} else {
//whatever you want to do with it
}
- Original
), then it all depends on your
connection.
Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
i know this isnt quite php exactly but anybody thats ever installed
phpedit
before remember how long it took to install on windows?? seems like mine
is
taking about 6 hours to install for some
so far i like phpdoc... most reliable that i found and besides it gives more
of a range of different output types: chm (windows help file format) html,
xml, pdf and so on...
i think its pretty cool...
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Sent:
hi...
just wondering if there are any good php books that are online (even if you
have to buy them)... just as long as they are online or downloadable..
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ok tnx will try it out and have a look around (hopefully they take paypal)
since i dont have a credit card at least not yet anyways...
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] online php
i know this isnt quite php exactly but anybody thats ever installed phpedit
before remember how long it took to install on windows?? seems like mine is
taking about 6 hours to install for some strange reason...
its either massive huge or my computer is super slow for some reason...
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address and be done with it just ignore them at least thats all i did
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP]
i guess that would be a slight problem then
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From: Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Unwanted e-mails
Andy B wrote:
i know i got tons of those before... all i did was block
BUT that does not help at all. btconnect is my service provider, and I
have to send my eMails through them. The messages are caused by
lists.php.net not accepting my messages
but your messages *ARE* getting accepted otherwise i would not be
reading this email right now!
chris.
when i
dont know that much about images at the minute but phpclasses.org has tons
of image classes that might help...
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From: Tim Thorburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:12 PM
Subject: [PHP] Images PHP
Hi,
I've created a small
they arent just coming from the people who want to unsubscribe?? they are
going to people who just want to send a message to the list too... got rid
of the info desk the advanced whatever and the pandasoft stuff but having
problems with mysql mailing list myself too... same sort of problems...
hahahaha!! go for it grin!!
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From: Ryan A [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Unwanted e-mails
when i talked to my internet people about those sorts of emails like
btconnect and
just wondering if there is a website where i can find out everything needed
to know on that inovation award thing...
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though...gues it could be a
slight better but overall its ok... grin
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From: Richard Harb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] automatic doc generation for classes
hmm ... strange.
then again, I let
hi
i have this function inside a class that im writing that eventually i want
to put inside a package of my own... the function goes like this: (comment
block included):
/**
*function Connect: open connection to database.
*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] string $host mysql hostname to connect to
[EMAIL
one question though how can you tell if a class or package you are
writting or want to attempt to write has ever been created before??
99.9% of the time anything i ever thought of for classes/packages to
write are either too simple or the idea has already been created before...
i.e. i
How many versions of the wheel exist in the world today? ...not many
hacked out of stone I bet :-)
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what does that mean?? is everybody saying i should give up on this idea
then??
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function in my class
* Thus wrote Andy B ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
hi
i have this function inside a class that im writing that eventually i
want
to put inside a package of my own... the function goes like this:
(comment
block included):
/**
*function Connect: open connection to database
: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Programming Innovation Award
Hello,
On 04/15/2004 01:54 AM, Andy B wrote:
one question though how can you tell if a class or package you are
writting or want to attempt to write has ever been created before??
99.9
hi...
i was reading something on phppatterns website about class design. the
reading said that its best to take say a db extraction class that you might
want to write and instead of making one super huge class out of it called
db or whatever it would be called but to turn that db class into a
does anybody have any good recommendations for anything to do auto doc
generation for php classes/functions and stuff.. like phpdoc or something of
that sort?
what ones are the best to use for windows
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\converter.php on line 4199
cant quite tell what im doing wrong but going to go through the docs and see
if i messed it up somehow...
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From: Richard Harb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:37 PM
Subject: Re
hi...
i have a page on my test web server... it has php/mysql stuff in it that
points to another db elsewhere that i have remote access to... my ip
address/domain name exist but when i go to it to test the page it says
cannot find server?? im lost now...it worked last night why not now...
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From: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 6:32 AM
Subject: [PHP] cannot find server even though the page is there?
hi...
i have a page on my test web
hi...
i have a section of a website that deletes records from a mysql table...
right now all the query is is a delete statement but i need to make a log
file in this format:
current time::username who executed delete:: deleted(name of record)::delete
completed
or delete failed depending on what
//log function
//writes log files
function WriteLog($LogType){
switch($LogType:
case login:
//use session vars here...
}
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didnt know if it was possible to use $_SESSION vars in that function or any
user defined functions for that matter...
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Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] using $_SESSION inside of user functions
got it will try that instead..
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From: John W. Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] creating log files out of a delete statement
Andy B wrote:
i have a section
I think just about everybody re-invents that wheel ...
well i dont have much of a choice but to reinvent that wheel because as far
as im aware of the gpl/lgpl doesnt allow me to write code, say sell that
webservice/php program for $100 and also have gpl/lgpl code in it (as well
as copyright
i have to write code for the following standard:
1. 13 links at the top and bottom of the page
2. those links reload the same page with a query string that will be part of
a mysql query
3. all query strings that come from anywhere except from say
www.test.com/ViewEvents.php get stripped out and
is it possible to have php installed with apache as cgi and module both at
the same time...??
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if i install php5 will it affect any of the php4.3.3 code that i have
running at all...?? i want to install 5 and see what they have new going on
and stuff but i dont want to crash my 4.3.3 running code any
and where would i be able to read a list of stuff that is new in 5??
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anybody know how to put that in english?? i have no clude what it says...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] php 5 install
Hallo und guten Tag,
herzlichen Dank für Ihre Mail.
Zeit zu leben
was wondering if this would work or do i need different code:
?php
include(libs/conf.db);
if(($_GET['month']==0)||($_GET['month']12)){
$query=SELECT
Type,
StartDate,
EndDate,
Name,
County,
Notes
FROM $EventsTable
ORDER BY StartDate DESC;
} else {
$query=SELECT
Type,
StartDate,
EndDate,
]
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 6:33 PM
Subject: [PHP] Re: query strings coming from the same page going back to the
same page
Andy B schrieb:
was wondering if this would work or do i need different code:
?php
include(libs/conf.db);
if(($_GET['month']==0)||($_GET['month']12)){
$query
www.php.net/manual/ might help
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From: Ash.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 5:34 AM
Subject: [PHP] Looking for a comprehensive PHP tutorial
Hi,
I am looking for a comprehensive handholder tutorial, that introduces the
various
hi...
im writing this admin system for a website and need to have it write system
logs to its own log files... the only problem i can really see is that its
on a shared webserver and all files are restricted to your own domain/vhost
dirs (whatever those happen to be). the admin wont let anybody
You don't have access to anything outside of the webroot? If
/home/user/www/
is your webroot, then write them to /home/user/. If you're saying you
can't
do that and they have to be put under the webroot, then give them .php
extensions and make the first line
?php exit(); ?
Then they can't
i have this sort of a log string:
error_log(\n.$date.:.$_SESSION['username'].:Logged in:normal login\n,
3, $LogPath.admin.log);
problem is when it writes the entry in a file the first one shows up fine
but when you get 2 or more in it then it either strings the lines together
(the second entry
everything works now tnx
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From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] \n doesnt work in error_log and windows?
[snip]
i have this sort of a log string:
error_log(\n
i just blocked them whatever they are but still dont need any strange stuff
going on...
somebody might want to check into a pandasoft autoresponder that keeps
answering my messages saying that the list couldnt accept them and it was
deleted and blocked because i have a virus?? i had people try
error since one or more fields above are blank}
?
From: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP] very large and long if statement
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 18:47:02 -0400
I have this very large and long if statement:
if
(!empty($_SESSION['add']['type'])
!empty
hi
yesterday i posted a msg about wanting to know if it was a good idea to
write a class that created/dealt with html forms and so on... somebody told
me to go look at html_quick_forms class and it looks good like everything i
would want to do but there is 1 problem: is there any classes for the
hi..
this might be sort of ot and out of the range of the list but i had a site
design question: is it an absolute no no to put inset borders 3px wide
around EVERY table on the section of the site?? im trying to make an
attempt at making the site have some sort of layout standards and that
happen
dont know what his deal is but ok will close this idea now i guess..
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From: Miles Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] page design and possible conflict??
You're right, ot out of range
hi...
i have a page called ViewEvents.php. at the top of the page and at the
bottom of the page there is a bar with links on them jan-dec and view all.
all 13 links are supposed to call the same page(ViewEvents.php) each link
with a different query string. for example:
hi...
i have a few things i need and dont know where to go to get some
ideas/examples of how to do some things:
1. i need to know how to take info from a mysql db load it into a dropdown
box and then select as the default choice whatever value was in the db: i.e.
i have a combo box with the
hi...
i have this code:
?if($old['Type']==Annual){?
input type=radio name=eventtype value=Annualchecked accesskey=yYes
?}else {?
input type=radio name=eventtype value=OneTime checked
accesskey=nNo?}?
was just wondering if that was the right way to determine the state of a
radio button...?
if the
i have this query set:
$EditQuery=select * from $EventsTable where Id='$edit';
$query=mysql_query($EditQuery)||die(mysql_error());
//later in the code i have this:
while($old=mysql_fetch_array($query)){
//do stuff
}
when i run the page i get:
warning: supplied argument to mysql_fetch_array is not
Assuming $old['Type'] somehow comes from $_REQUEST['eventtype'] (or is
related to it), then yeah, that'll work.
no its coming from a db result from fetch_array() of which im having an
interesting problem with right now but thats in another post
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[snip]
i have this query set:
$EditQuery=select * from $EventsTable where Id='$edit';
$query=mysql_query($EditQuery)||die(mysql_error());
[/snip]
You forgot the connection string arguement in mysql_query
even after putting in my standard mysql_connect(.) stuff it still fails
now the
I always found this way of inserting data into a database messy. Here is
a handy function to do array inserts and it builds the sql for you.
function arrayINSERT($a,$tablename)
{
$sql = INSERT INTO $tablename (;
foreach($a as $key = $value)
{
$sql .= $key .,;
}
$sql[strlen($sql)-1] =
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From: Daniel Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] radio buttons checked or not
My understanding is if the variable exists then the radio button was
checked.
i
hi...
is it totally usefull/reasonable to write a class in php that prints
different different form elements in html...
i.e. inputs, buttons, drop downs, multi selects and son? that way (at least
i think) then it would be easier to change the element attributes
dynamically...
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From: Chris W. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: [PHP] confused big time
Andy B mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:09 PM said:
yes you can absolutely do it that way
I have this very large and long if statement:
if
(!empty($_SESSION['add']['type'])
!empty($_SESSION['add']['start_date']
!empty($_SESSION['add']['end_date'])
!empty($_SESSION['add']['name'])
!empty($_SESSION['add']['county'])
!empty($_SESSION['add']['discription'])
anybody know what the exact path for the php binary on linux is?
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Andy B ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
anybody know what the exact path for the php binary on linux is?
Depends on how it was installed, a common place is:
/usr/local/bin/php
Or you can type:
which php
and it will tell you where it is.
Curt
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I used to think I was indecisive, but now
i have the function i made:
function CreateDate($day, $month, $year) {
if(!empty($day) !empty($month) !empty($year)){
//convert $day, $month, and $year into a valid timestamp
$time= strtotime($day, mktime(0,0,0,$month,1,$year));
$time=date(YmdHis, $time);
return $time; }
else {
return false; }}
Replace the above two lines with
$time = date('YmdHis', mktime(0,0,0,$month,$day,$year);
ok the function works now because when i echo the output of
$_SESSION['add']['start_date'] it shows the right 14 digit timestamp for the
date i wanted to create... now the problem is getting it to echo
date() expects a UNIX timestamp. MMDDHHMMSS is NOT a UNIX timestamp.
So,
instead of converting the UNIX timestamp to MMDDHHMMSS in your function,
why not leave it a UNIX timestamp? Then you can send it through date()
whenever you want it formatted.
yea...it works now...hmmm... dont know
i have something like this:
if(!empty($_SESSION['add']['start_date'])
!empty($_SESSION['add']['end_date'])..)){
and i get the unexpected error:
notice:use of undefined constant: add-assumed 'add' in (filename).
dont quite understand why that is since i used other code that i have
hi...
i have 2 mysql queries
first one:
//the extra { at the beginning and the extra , at the end of
//each variable should be an '...
insert into $EventsTable values(NULL, '{$_SESSION[add][type]}',
'{$_SESSION[add][start_date]}', '{$_SESSION[add][end_date]}',
'{$_SESSION[add][name]}',
two things i would recommend before disecting your code.
1. write readable queries.
GOOD:
$sql =
SELECT
name
, age
, height
, etc
FROM user
WHERE
name = '$name'
AND height = '5';
2. always
MINE:
$sql =
SELECT
name
, age
, height
, etc
FROM user
WHERE
name = '$name'
AND height = '5';
um...im not doing selects im doing inserts with variable names... i
understand the idea with
ok query is fixed for the second one now... now to work on the
if(!empty.. tests
i have to check and make sure every one of those arrays isnt empty.
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He was showing you a neatly formatted query, the example applies to
inserts too:
$sql =
INSERT INTO
tablename
(
field1,
field2,
field3
)
VALUES
(
'$blah',
$here',
AB 1. how were those queries unreadable?? and
You're kidding, right?
sorry...my bad... never had any writing readable code help
anywhere...guess if i do it like c/c++ then it would work better
AB 2. whenever i put '' around the array keys in multi dimensional arrays
in a
AB query i get a
i was hoping that wouldn't cause any confusion, but i guess it did. the
thing to remember is that a query is a query. you know, parts is parts.
oops stress and the fact that im sort of new at this stuff mixed me up...
$query=insert into table values(
'{$array['index1']['index2']}',
hi...
is it better to give the mysql query string to a variable instead of directly doing it
with mysql_query?
i.e.
$query=select * from table;//is this a better way?
$query=mysql_query(select * from table);//or is this way
//better?
mysql_query(select * from table);//not a good idea i dont
On my personal machine the return value is:
1081026000
interesting... i got 1081054800 from mine with the code:
?
$time=mktime(0,0,0,4,4,2004);
echo $time;
?
even on cli it gives the same thing
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if you need to turn the result of mktime() into a valid mysql timestamp
format then put these 2 lines in your code when needed:
?
//create valid mysql timestamp(14 digit)
//change to fit your liking
//sorry turned into a function...
function CreateDate($day, $month, $year);
//make sure no
hi...
i cant cut and paste my exact mysql query because it takes the '' stuff out doubles
the $'s and the ,'s in the whole thing (dont know why but anyways...)...
i have a query that goes something like this:
mysql_query(insert into $GuestbookTable values(NULL, '$_SESSION[add][date]',
$sql = INSERT INTO x VALUES ({$_SESSION['add']['name']} ;
oh, and unless add name are actually constants you should always wrap
them in single quotes. (php will covert the non-exstent constant into a
string a issue an E_NOTICE + its overhead)
well that got me on the right track...
how would you assign NULL to a variable if its original value is ? otherwise leave
it with its value...
the form im working on has a date field called date on the form itself. that date
will get turned into $_SESSION[add][date] on the next page...
i want it so if the person filling out the form
hi...
i have the following html line:
input type=text name=referred value=?echo $old['Referred'];? accesskey=d
id=id-referred
the php variable $old['Referred'] was pulled from a mysql table. the full string that
this variable holds is I work for you... but when used as a default value in an
tnx that works now
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From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] php as default value in html
--- Andy B [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi...
i have the following html
htmlentities(), also.
input type=text name=referred value=?echo
htmlentities($old['Referred']);? accesskey=d id=id-referred
Other wise the value could have a double quote within it and a malicious
user could effectively end your input text box and inject their own HTML.
is there any way to keep
is there any way to keep multiple users using the same form from mixing
up
variables
I have no idea what you mean here.
if user #1 logs in and starts using a form and then user #2 logs in and
starts using the same one as user #1, say by chance they submit it at the
same time... is there any
how would you empty all the contents of $HTTP_SESSION_VARS when you dont need them
anymore but still keep the current session running? the problem seems to be that when
i try to fill them with something else (dont need the original values anymore) but
need new ones without destroying the
$HTTP_SESSION_VARS = array();
doesnt work... it kills the session and forces me to login as soon as the
array is empty
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Umm.. Use $_SESSION for that..
wish i could but it wont work for the server that its going to run
onthey still use php4.0.4pl1 believe it or not
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Use the session_* functions then..
still does nothing at all or it does the same as session_destroy. and that
forces a user back to the login screen right in the middle of an sql
insert/update
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