Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP?

2004-12-13 Thread Richard Lynch
Peter Lauri wrote: Best groupmember, Why should I choose PHP instead of JSP/Servlets when it comes to develop a high-traffic site. Assume that the infrastructure for both are set up. It only comes to efficiency (both coding and running)? What are your experience? I believe PHP and JSP are

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP?

2004-12-11 Thread Gareth Williams
Because you prefer it? Seriously, you should choose what you are most happy with. Both work fine, although, PHP rocks! On 11 Dec 2004, at 10:11, Peter Lauri wrote: Best groupmember, Why should I choose PHP instead of JSP/Servlets when it comes to develop a high-traffic site. Assume that the

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP?

2004-12-11 Thread John Nichel
Travis Conway wrote: Did he really ask that question on a PHP board? That is like walking into a Coke factory, going to the manager and asking pepsi or coke? Good a place as any to ask. Sure, the opinions one receives here may be a bit biased towards php, but most of the users on this list

[PHP] PHP vs JSP?

2004-12-11 Thread Peter Lauri
Best groupmember, Why should I choose PHP instead of JSP/Servlets when it comes to develop a high-traffic site. Assume that the infrastructure for both are set up. It only comes to efficiency (both coding and running)? What are your experience? -- - Best Of Times /Peter Lauri -- PHP General

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP?

2004-12-11 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Peter Lauri wrote: Best groupmember, Why should I choose PHP instead of JSP/Servlets when it comes to develop a high-traffic site. Assume that the infrastructure for both are set up. It only comes to efficiency (both coding and running)? What are your experience? As a sun certified java

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP?

2004-12-11 Thread Travis Conway
] PHP vs JSP? Peter Lauri wrote: Best groupmember, Why should I choose PHP instead of JSP/Servlets when it comes to develop a high-traffic site. Assume that the infrastructure for both are set up. It only comes to efficiency (both coding and running)? What are your experience? As a sun certified java

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP?

2004-12-11 Thread Raditha Dissanayake
Travis Conway wrote: Did he really ask that question on a PHP board? I have met factory managers (though not at the comanies you mention ) who have admitted that their competitors may have the edge :-) But seriously whether PHP is better or JSP is better is a religious question. However on the

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread SLanger
Hello Well here is my opinion on the two. I think it is a lot easier to get an app ready and running with PHP (especially database driven) than it is with JSP. The memory footprint of PHP is a lot lower than with JSP. Alone the JVM that needs to be loaded requires lots of resources. Also

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
You might want to look around the jakarta projects and ask questions on some of those mailing lists. Thanks for the advice. I'll try that. But I *would* like to hear the opinions of PHP'ers too. I'm worried that by asking people on that list Ill get one-sided views. Of COURSE you'll

RE: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip] I'm worried that PHP won't scale well. And by scaling I don't mean under heavy load, I mean maintenance wise :) I can't imagine having to do a feature upgrade on a PHP project with more than 100 files ... (this file requires that file which requires that one and so on ...) [/snip] This is

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread CPT John W. Holmes
for the top-post, OE sucks! - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jean-Christian Imbeault [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 7:46 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please [snip] I'm worried that PHP won't scale well

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Jean-Christian Imbeault
Cpt John W. Holmes wrote: Agree 100%. Don't assume that just because you use JSP, or any other language, your program is going to instantly scale well and be easy to maintain. You can write crappy, inefficient code in any language. You can also write good programs in most any language if you put

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-10 Thread Jimmy Brake
hi! i run some really big apps (crms/email/shopping carts/directories/forums/etc) that make use of persistance type data but NEARLY all of it is just put in and removed from the DB - just all kinds of little/big functions that need to maintain some data or state(s) of some data - my system

[PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-09 Thread Jean-Christian Imbeault
I've just finished a big PHP project and I'm about to start a new project. I've had both fun and pain with PHP. The new project would be another one of those database driven online store kind-of things for a somewhat large company. Before I start my new project I am considering whether to use

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-09 Thread Joel Rees
... Before I start my new project I am considering whether to use PHP again or to switch to jsp. I'm worried that PHP won't scale well. And by scaling I don't mean under heavy load, I mean maintenance wise :) I can't imagine having to do a feature upgrade on a PHP project with more than

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-09 Thread Jean-Christian Imbeault
Joel Rees wrote: You might want to look around the jakarta projects and ask questions on some of those mailing lists. Thanks for the advice. I'll try that. But I *would* like to hear the opinions of PHP'ers too. I'm worried that by asking people on that list Ill get one-sided views. What do PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP vs. jsp, advice please

2003-06-09 Thread DvDmanDT
Installing JSP isn't impossible, but it can be a true pain... At least on windows... There are lots of environiment variables to set (well, two at least), config files to edit, a directory structure to understand (this is probably way simplier than I currently think it is)... However, once you get

[PHP] PHP vs JSP

2002-05-03 Thread Paras Mukadam
Dear all, How is PHP similar to / different than JSP ? I mean, in JSP the page is compiled the first time it runs on the web-browser, then the next time it finds the .class file and just runs it. i.e. the compiling is just the first time !! How does it work in PHP? Does PHP has any way to figure

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-02-14 Thread Michael Kimsal
Not really a JSP/PHP issue, but you mention that there's another developer. Are you in a bidding war with this person? If you're vying for business, don't get into putting JSP down, not out of hand anyway. Simply state the benefits that PHP has to offer. Our machines may be weird, but we've

[PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-02-13 Thread Website4S
Hi, Just wondering if anyone knows of any links to information relating to PHP vs JSP where PHP is my language of choice and another developer is recommending JSP but I know nothing about JSP to help me convince the buyer that PHP is a better choice. A question that was raised is that PHP

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-02-13 Thread Pavel Jartsev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just wondering if anyone knows of any links to information relating to PHP vs JSP where PHP is my language of choice and another developer is recommending JSP but I know nothing about JSP to help me convince the buyer that PHP is a better choice. ... Here's

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-02-13 Thread Philip Olson
The general php mailing list discusses this every so often, here are a few threads : http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalm=97948720824237w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalm=97621741324759w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalm=97413389003820w=2 Can find

RE: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-01-14 Thread Cal Evans
don' get it. If you want the contract then I would go JSP. If you don't want' it/need it, walk away. Cal http://.calevans.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 9:35 PM To: PHP list Subject: [PHP] PHP vs JSP Hi all

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-01-14 Thread Phil Driscoll
I'm busy working on a contract .. and we need to do some web based stuff .. but the client is intent on using jsp and not PHP. Is there somewhere where I can get good comparists between the two pro and cons etc etc .. Try

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-01-14 Thread Donald Goodwill
it seems really helpful. I even started redoing one project from scratch using it. Maybe surprise your client and create both PHP and JSP versions... - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PHP list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:35 PM Subject: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-01-14 Thread Alex Black
3:12 -0800 Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP There is an interesting ZD Net comparison of several scripting languages at http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/0,12249,2646052,00.html Some time ago I did the comparison of JSP to PHP and JSP turned out to be much, much slower. Now I'm jus

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-01-14 Thread bard
I've worked on a couple of projects with JSP, and decided to use PHP to build binarycloud. 'nuff said :) ok, that's ONCE today.. =) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the

RE: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-01-14 Thread Cal Evans
Oracle database. My $0.02, Cal http://www.calevans.com -Original Message- From: Alex Black [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/0,12249,2646052,00.html gah: "

Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP

2001-01-14 Thread Joe Stump
, January 14, 2001 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP vs JSP http://www.zdnet.com/enterprise/stories/linux/0,12249,2646052,00.html gah: "Also, any organization doing clustering or failover with PHP is in largely uncharted waters. " what _bull_! what does loa