RE: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-08 Thread Lumpkin, Buddy
I thought autocompletion would help you _avoid_ silly mistakes. For example, defining $varName then trying to use $varname when you really meant to use $varName. In php I would say it's a tossup because if you reference a variable that doesn't exist it will contain a NULL or FALSE value but php

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-07 Thread Pupeno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 07 January 2003 18:48, Jason Wong wrote: > On Wednesday 08 January 2003 02:45, Maxim Maletsky wrote: > > Isn't it a little bit too much of paranoia for autocompletion? In > > programming schools they make you writing the programs on paper so

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-07 Thread Jason Wong
On Wednesday 08 January 2003 02:45, Maxim Maletsky wrote: > Isn't it a little bit too much of paranoia for autocompletion? In > programming schools they make you writing the programs on paper so you > understand it better :) > I, personally, only care about the code highlighting. Autocompleting >

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-07 Thread Maxim Maletsky
"John Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... : > Thanks for the reply. I'm also impressed with Zend's autocompletion...I > can't even get PHPEd to autocomplete on objects. > > Finally, one frustrating thing on the part of both editors is the > inability to autocomplete on arrays of object referenc

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-06 Thread John Wells
I've tried phpEdit, but unfortunately it's a Windows-only IDE and has quite a few reproduceable bugs (I get an access violation almost everytime I use the latest version. I do all my development in Linux, so it won't cut it. Thanks! John -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To

RE: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-05 Thread Timothy Hitchens \(HiTCHO\)
D] > Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd > > > John Wells wrote: > > Can anyone who's familiar with both give an honest, open > evaluation? > > I'm in a rush project and need something quickly (have to purchase > > tomorrow), but I'm on the fence w

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-05 Thread Mirek Novak
John Wells wrote: Can anyone who's familiar with both give an honest, open evaluation? I'm in a rush project and need something quickly (have to purchase tomorrow), but I'm on the fence when it comes to these two products. Zend costs $100 less than Phped, so I'm leaning that way. But if there's

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-05 Thread John Wells
Sterling, Thanks for the reply. I'm also impressed with Zend's autocompletion...I can't even get PHPEd to autocomplete on objects. I wonder if Zend uses dbg as well. It'd be nice to see a profiler thrown into a future version. Finally, one frustrating thing on the part of both editors is the i

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-05 Thread Sterling Hughes
> Can anyone who's familiar with both give an honest, open evaluation? I'm > in a rush project and need something quickly (have to purchase tomorrow), > but I'm on the fence when it comes to these two products. > > Zend costs $100 less than Phped, so I'm leaning that way. But if there's > anythi

[PHP] Zend IDE vs. PhpEd

2003-01-05 Thread John Wells
Can anyone who's familiar with both give an honest, open evaluation? I'm in a rush project and need something quickly (have to purchase tomorrow), but I'm on the fence when it comes to these two products. Zend costs $100 less than Phped, so I'm leaning that way. But if there's anything you know

[PHP] Zend IDE 1.10 and Debugger Mini-review

2001-04-09 Thread John
http://php.weblogs.com/zend_ide_debugger "But we didn't get the Zend IDE to do typing. We want to use it for the Debugger stuff. Now global and local variables are visible in the Variables tab. You can drill down into arrays and objects to look at their values." -- PHP General Mailing List (ht

RE: [PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-02-16 Thread James Moore
> > > > The IDE is pretty nice. Startup (Windows version through > Samba) takes a > > long time and there are still some crashing issues. Have you reported these if the happen consistenly Im sure the Zend folk would love to hear about them so that they can fix them.. > > It's nowhere near a

Re: [PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-02-16 Thread Hidayet Dogan
PHPEd now supports debugger and still free :) > 1-month commercial license ($90). > > Download wasn't too bad. I haven't had a chance to check out the Zend > LaunchPad. The installation (Apache Linux PHP 4.04pl1+patches) took me about > 30 minutes for client and server which included the

RE: [PHP] Zend IDE

2001-02-02 Thread Alain Fontaine
2001 12:08 > A : Alain Fontaine; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : Re: [PHP] Zend IDE > > > Alain, > > Have you tried changing your keyboard layout in the Windows Control-Panel > to Swiss-French? > As far as I know, Java uses your systems keyboard layout. > > Java will be s

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE

2001-02-02 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 11:43 2/2/2001, Alain Fontaine wrote: >Oh, by the way... Zend IDE for Windows is written in Java. Microsoft is >dumping Java completely. Find the mistake. The Zend IDE is written in Java, period; You may consider this a mistake if you're not fond of Java, but this has nothing to do with Micr

RE: [PHP] Zend IDE

2001-02-02 Thread Alain Fontaine
ntime environment ? > -Message d'origine- > De : Andi Gutmans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Envoye : vendredi 2 fevrier 2001 12:08 > A : Alain Fontaine; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : Re: [PHP] Zend IDE > > > Alain, > > Have you tried changing your keyboar

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE

2001-02-02 Thread Andi Gutmans
Alain, Have you tried changing your keyboard layout in the Windows Control-Panel to Swiss-French? As far as I know, Java uses your systems keyboard layout. Java will be supported by other vendors such as Sun & IBM on Windows so I wouldn't worry about it ;) And of course our aim is to support U

[PHP] Zend IDE

2001-02-02 Thread Alain Fontaine
Hi, Does anyone know how I can 'tell' the Zend IDE to actually use Swiss-French keyboard layout instead of french? I know it's related to Java thinking as I'm living in Belgium, I must have a french keyboard layout. Yet, I don't, and I can't type correctly now :) Oh, by the way... Zend IDE for W

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Frank Joerdens
On Sat, Jan 27, 2001 at 10:26:35AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: [ . . . ] > You mean like the Commercial Subscription ($70/month) ?? The Encoder > SE is available with that plan. In fact, that's almost the whole idea > behind the Commercial subscription: to allow a very low entry for access > to th

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Zeev Suraski
At 17:37 27/1/2001, Lewis Bergman wrote: >Also, Does anyone know if the IDE works on the snapshots? I didn't see >anything to preclude it but it seemed to come packaged with a PHP version. >I wouldn't want to give up the ability to code with the latest function to >use an IDE. I guess I could just

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Christopher Allen
> > An alternative (non-subscription) plan for the IDE will be announced > > next week. It'll be designed to make the IDE much more affordable for > > everyone, including those who develop for commercial purposes. > > > > Stay tuned! An alternative is xemacs with the correct <.el >file.

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread lagi
Thats what I wanted to hear maybe the winging did it or maybe they planned it all along ... - Original Message - From: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lewis Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 20

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
> An alternative (non-subscription) plan for the IDE will be announced > next week. It'll be designed to make the IDE much more affordable for > everyone, including those who develop for commercial purposes. > > Stay tuned! > > Zeev As always, PHP and it's dedicated people come through again!

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
> lagi wrote: >> >> They can charge the big companies who pay the microsoft tax for the >> extra nannying that they need/want/expect but why give the razor free >> and then charge $6000 per blade? Charge a nobrainer price (for a >> limited period) and we would all jump in i predict. > > You m

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Zeev Suraski
Lewis & everyone, An alternative (non-subscription) plan for the IDE will be announced next week. It'll be designed to make the IDE much more affordable for everyone, including those who develop for commercial purposes. Stay tuned! Zeev At 15:22 27/1/2001, Lewis Bergman wrote: >Is anyone el

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Jim Jagielski
lagi wrote: > > They can charge the big companies who pay the microsoft tax for the extra > nannying that they need/want/expect but why give the razor free and then > charge $6000 per blade? Charge a nobrainer price (for a limited period) > and we would all jump in i predict. You mean like th

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Alain Fontaine
My 2ps worth > > Lagi > > - Original Message - > From: "Lewis Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:22 PM > Subject: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans > > > > Is anyone else dissappointed

Re: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread lagi
D]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: [PHP] Zend IDE price plans > Is anyone else dissappointed in the limited pricing options of the Zend IDE? > I would love to buy the commercial license as about half of my work would > fall into that. > > My problem is I don'

[PHP] Zend IDE price plans

2001-01-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Is anyone else dissappointed in the limited pricing options of the Zend IDE? I would love to buy the commercial license as about half of my work would fall into that. My problem is I don't want or need anything except the IDE. Are there other people in this same boat? I would like the IDE but

Re: [PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-01-26 Thread Terrence Chay
1-month commercial license ($90). Download wasn't too bad. I haven't had a chance to check out the Zend LaunchPad. The installation (Apache Linux PHP 4.04pl1+patches) took me about 30 minutes for client and server which included the wait on the license key. It took us another day to put u

Re: [PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-01-23 Thread WBB
IL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 1:15 PM Subject: [PHP] zend ide & debugger > ola all, > > has anyone used the zend ide+debugger? > > before I slap down $800, I'd like to know if people who have think it's > groovy.. > > :) > > _alex > >

Re: [PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-01-23 Thread Alex Akilov
Alex, I saw a demo of it about 3 months ago while they were working on it and it looked pretty impressive and contained all the necessary debug features I asked about. As far as sending info to the browser, you might be surprised as I think it might do some of that but I don't recall exactly wha

Re: [PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-01-23 Thread Alex Black
> The IDE+Debugger combo really looks great, esp. because of the debug > support being AWOL in PHP4. I'm a little bit irked about that actually, they obviously stopped the "free" development on it, and moved it in house. But I guess you gotta put food on the table :) I really would prefer to hav

Re: [PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-01-23 Thread Ben Gollmer
I second that. The IDE+Debugger combo really looks great, esp. because of the debug support being AWOL in PHP4. I'm a little worried about the IDE being written in java tho...I hope its not as slow/memory hungry/crash happy as the other java + JRE apps I've used... Too bad there's not an eval

[PHP] zend ide & debugger

2001-01-23 Thread Alex Black
ola all, has anyone used the zend ide+debugger? before I slap down $800, I'd like to know if people who have think it's groovy.. :) _alex -- Alex Black, Head Monkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Turing Studio, Inc. http://www.turingstudio.com vox+510.666.0074 fax+510.666.0093 Saul Zaentz Film Cen

[PHP] Zend IDE

2001-01-14 Thread n e t b r a i n
Hi all, anyone know something more about the future Zend IDE? e.g price, etc .. many thanks in advance max -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [