RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. It is possible that is because you don't want to put the time into figuring things out for yourself. It's a lot easier to post a ton of RTFM questions than to actually read the manual or research your question. I seem to recall you having the same problem with the MySQL documentation. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:52 PM To: Leif K-Brooks Cc: PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
if you don't find anything from the php manual or from the php lists then you wont find it from any book.so i say you stick to this list and php manual. Haseeb. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
Sofar I've found everything I needed from the manual, and other than the Install PHP Guide on WebMonkey, I haven't used anything but the manual, and scarsely this list... And I do use the downloadable version of the manual, without the user comments ... But of course, I've programmed since I was 8, so for me it's just another syntax... Rene On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 21:51:56 -0500, Beauford.2002 wrote about Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? what the universal translator turned into this: I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. -- Rene Brehmer This message was written on 100% recycled spam. Come see! My brand new site is now online! http://www.metalbunny.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I've seen some PHP books, and honestly, the only book I might buy would be a printed copy of the PHP manual. It's more in-depth than most books. Exactly what is your problem with it? Beauford.2002 wrote: My comment was that they do not use manuals, they use books written by 3rd parties. Why? Because they are more detailed and go into more depth than the manual. Also keep in mind that different people have different learning curves - you may find the manual sufficient, however, I don't. Further note that schools only teach you the rudimentary base language - to really understand it is to look at other peoples code and write your own. B. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? Rule #1 im programming: what you learn in school is never right! :) Beauford.2002 wrote: I don't find manuals particularly usable and as such would rather have a good reference manual that speaks in plain english. I don't need to know the technical details - I need to know how it works, which I don't find manuals provide. I spent four years in college, and not once did they use the manual as the text of choice - simply because they are not meant to teach you how to use whatever it is your after. B. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP General mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I can find an answer to nearly any question I have about PHP in the manual. Any examples of what you're unable to find? Beauford.2002 wrote: I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
There is a second edition of MySQL and PHP, the first edition was a very good book but was written before the super globals were introduced. I would recommend going on Amazon and bn.com and reading the reviews. There is a lot you can learn from the PHP Manual but if you are truly a beginner you would benefit from a good PHP book. O'reilly also has published a PHP book now as well. Jason Leif K-Brooks wrote: I've seen some PHP books, and honestly, the only book I might buy would be a printed copy of the PHP manual. It's more in-depth than most books. Exactly what is your problem with it? Beauford.2002 wrote: My comment was that they do not use manuals, they use books written by 3rd parties. Why? Because they are more detailed and go into more depth than the manual. Also keep in mind that different people have different learning curves - you may find the manual sufficient, however, I don't. Further note that schools only teach you the rudimentary base language - to really understand it is to look at other peoples code and write your own. B. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? Rule #1 im programming: what you learn in school is never right! :) Beauford.2002 wrote: I don't find manuals particularly usable and as such would rather have a good reference manual that speaks in plain english. I don't need to know the technical details - I need to know how it works, which I don't find manuals provide. I spent four years in college, and not once did they use the manual as the text of choice - simply because they are not meant to teach you how to use whatever it is your after. B. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP General mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I can find an answer to nearly any question I have about PHP in the manual. Any examples of what you're unable to find? Beauford.2002 wrote: I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted
RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
i can honestly say when i was a newbie , browsing other peoples code , and also especially the pear packages helped me formulate my own style , in particular , the pear packages helped alot to understand the structure and how to build classes properly , and phpdocs helped to understand a standardised and forumlated way to document code properly. = Original Message From Jason Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED] = There is a second edition of MySQL and PHP, the first edition was a very good book but was written before the super globals were introduced. I would recommend going on Amazon and bn.com and reading the reviews. There is a lot you can learn from the PHP Manual but if you are truly a beginner you would benefit from a good PHP book. O'reilly also has published a PHP book now as well. Jason Leif K-Brooks wrote: I've seen some PHP books, and honestly, the only book I might buy would be a printed copy of the PHP manual. It's more in-depth than most books. Exactly what is your problem with it? Beauford.2002 wrote: My comment was that they do not use manuals, they use books written by 3rd parties. Why? Because they are more detailed and go into more depth than the manual. Also keep in mind that different people have different learning curves - you may find the manual sufficient, however, I don't. Further note that schools only teach you the rudimentary base language - to really understand it is to look at other peoples code and write your own. B. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? Rule #1 im programming: what you learn in school is never right! :) Beauford.2002 wrote: I don't find manuals particularly usable and as such would rather have a good reference manual that speaks in plain english. I don't need to know the technical details - I need to know how it works, which I don't find manuals provide. I spent four years in college, and not once did they use the manual as the text of choice - simply because they are not meant to teach you how to use whatever it is your after. B. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP General mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I can find an answer to nearly any question I have about PHP in the manual. Any examples of what you're unable to find? Beauford.2002 wrote: I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time
[PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
well, B., i've read a LOT of 'em .. it sort of depends on YOUR background as to which is best ... i like Professional PHP Programming from Wrox ... don't bother with Beginning PHP Programming from Wrox ... it'll probably insult your intelligence ... one of the first i ever read, when i was first getting started, was PHP Essentials by Meloni ... simple, but some GOOD examples to study, and when you finish, you'll have a decent foundation for more study .. my current personal favorite is Mastering PHP 4.1 from Sybex ... good writing style, and it covers (obviously) 4.1, which a LOT of books out don't do ... so it eliminates THAT frustration ... HTH kenM - Original Message - From: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. Ummm... it returns the setting of magic_quotes_gpc from the php.ini file. Do you need to know what magic_quotes are? That's in the manual, too... Usually something telling you how to use it and what it returns is good enoughbut ---John Holmes... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
Try out Programming PHP by Rasmus Lerdorf from O'Reilly. I got it and learned everything from it. Once you've read the book once or twice, you can just use the PHP Manual... -Michael On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 12:53, Beauford.2002 wrote: I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
Use the Zend Beauford. http://www.zend.com For beginners: http://www.zend.com/interest/beginners.php Using Google: http://www.phpbuilder.com/manual/function.get-magic-quotes-gpc.php -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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oh, and that reminds me ... another O'Reilly title, PHP Cookbook is REALLY helpful if, like a lot of us, you like to learn from examples ... - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? Try out Programming PHP by Rasmus Lerdorf from O'Reilly. I got it and learned everything from it. Once you've read the book once or twice, you can just use the PHP Manual... -Michael On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 12:53, Beauford.2002 wrote: I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
Yes, an excellent book. -Original Message- From: Kenn Murrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 2:14 PM To: Mike; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? oh, and that reminds me ... another O'Reilly title, PHP Cookbook is REALLY helpful if, like a lot of us, you like to learn from examples ... - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? Try out Programming PHP by Rasmus Lerdorf from O'Reilly. I got it and learned everything from it. Once you've read the book once or twice, you can just use the PHP Manual... -Michael On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 12:53, Beauford.2002 wrote: I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
Not sure if you've looked at it already or not, but www.webmonkey.com has great web programming info. I followed a couple php tutorials from there was up running... then again I've done alot of programming prior to PHP so maybe I'm just warped. Patrick - Original Message - From: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
Thanks to all that responded on this. There are some great examples here that I will definitely look into. BE. - Original Message - From: Kenn Murrah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? well, B., i've read a LOT of 'em .. it sort of depends on YOUR background as to which is best ... i like Professional PHP Programming from Wrox ... don't bother with Beginning PHP Programming from Wrox ... it'll probably insult your intelligence ... one of the first i ever read, when i was first getting started, was PHP Essentials by Meloni ... simple, but some GOOD examples to study, and when you finish, you'll have a decent foundation for more study .. my current personal favorite is Mastering PHP 4.1 from Sybex ... good writing style, and it covers (obviously) 4.1, which a LOT of books out don't do ... so it eliminates THAT frustration ... HTH kenM - Original Message - From: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I dare you to find an explanation of an ASP feature and you'll realize how easy you've got it. How much easier can it be? First, you type in: www.php.net/get_magic_quotes_gpc to get the manual page. From there, in the explanation, there is a link labeled magic_quotes_gpc (you can click on links) which takes you here: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc for an explanation of magic quotes. Say you have this string: $str = This has a \ quote in it; If you don't understand why you need that backslash there (or escape character) then you really don't need to be looking for the quick answers on the PHP list. I don't mean to be rude, but keep reading and searching and testing for a while until you've got the basics down. ---John W. Holmes... PHP Architect - A monthly magazine for PHP Professionals. Get your copy today. http://www.phparch.com/ -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:32 PM To: Jennifer Goodie Cc: PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I can find an answer to nearly any question I have about PHP in the manual. Any examples of what you're unable to find? Beauford.2002 wrote: I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies?
I purchased a few php books and was sorely disappointed. I found that the online documentation and this php list were the best resources for php. You'll find that pretty much any book on php will be outdated by the time it hits the shelves, and with php 5 coming out in the near future (I hope) it is going to change even more. You're best bet is to take the time to read the manual (if you haven't already) and follow this list, you'll soon find that php's resources are very well organized. Matt -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:52 PM To: Leif K-Brooks Cc: PHP General Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I found that after the fact, but my question was regarding tutorials, books, or other docs. This was just an example I used. In general I don't find the PHP manual very helpful - I tend to get more out of the users comments than the actual manual.. - Original Message - From: Leif K-Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? After a quick search of the php manual, I came upon http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.info.php#ini.magic-quotes-gpc, which says: Sets the magic_quotes state for GPC (Get/Post/Cookie) operations. When magic_quotes are on, all ' (single-quote), (double quote), \ (backslash) and NUL's are escaped with a backslash automatically. Seems to explain it pretty nicely. Beauford.2002 wrote: No, the name explains absolutely squat. What is a magic quote? Sounds like something I smoked in the 60's. Maybe to you it makes sense as you know what it does. To me it means absolutely nothing - nor does the PHP manual explain it. B. - Original Message - From: Jennifer Goodie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Beauford.2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PHP General [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? That is a really, really, really poor example. Tha name says it all. It gets the magic quotes setting for gpc(get, post, cookie). You can figure out what most PHP functions do just by looking at their names, that's actually what I like about PHP. -Original Message- From: Beauford.2002 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 1:54 PM To: PHP General Subject: [PHP] Is there a PHP for Dummies? I'm really tired of trying to figure out the PHP manual and need something that explains things in plain straight forward English. Like get_magic_quotes_gpc() for example - the manual says how to use it and what it returns - but nowhere can I find out what it's for. Does it count sheep, do a quote of the day, or what - maybe I'm just stupid - but in any event I have spent more time in the last two weeks searching for things and getting no answers - Any help in pointing me a good straight forward tutorial/manual would be appreciated. B. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- The above message is encrypted with double rot13 encoding. Any unauthorized attempt to decrypt it will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
