Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
At 4:45 PM -0400 5/14/09, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: My stance is, if you're going to subscribe to an email list, learn how to unsubscribe, how to see if you've been inadvertantly unsubscribed, learn email netiquette on lists, etc. I agree with you for the most part. I'm just saying that the presence of unsubscribe information in the message headers themselves is of very little value to most people. Andrew: I'm sure you don't disagrees, but I side with Paul with this clarification: People who subscribe to this list do not fall in to the most people category. (proof -- think of Rob) :-) One must have some idea of what this list is about before subscribing to it. It's a deliberate act wherein the person has to travel from nonsubscriber to subscriber where along the way they are presented with information for them to read and agree as to what you are doing AND how to undo it. If they choose to ignore/forget that information then I claim that does not excuse them from the responsibilities they agreed to at the time of their subscription. Far too often in this current world of political correctness we must feel for the people who have made bad choices -- but I say screw 'em -- they should know better! :-) Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, tedd tedd.sperl...@gmail.com wrote: At 4:45 PM -0400 5/14/09, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: My stance is, if you're going to subscribe to an email list, learn how to unsubscribe, how to see if you've been inadvertantly unsubscribed, learn email netiquette on lists, etc. I agree with you for the most part. I'm just saying that the presence of unsubscribe information in the message headers themselves is of very little value to most people. Andrew: I'm sure you don't disagrees, but I side with Paul with this clarification: People who subscribe to this list do not fall in to the most people category. (proof -- think of Rob) :-) I agree, but I've subscribed and unsubscribed to a number of lists over the years, and I never knew anything about the unsubscribe headers for mailing list messages until someone mentioned them on this list. As such, I would never have looked there for information on how to unsubscribe. One must have some idea of what this list is about before subscribing to it. It's a deliberate act wherein the person has to travel from nonsubscriber to subscriber where along the way they are presented with information for them to read and agree as to what you are doing AND how to undo it. One would think. ;-) I know that at least part of the problem is that mailing lists vary so much depending on the software they use and the options specified by the list owners/managers. Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
Hi Folks, I have a written a script in PHP which outputs the result from a text file. The PHP script is as follows: ?php $alldata = file(result.txt); echo tabletrtd; foreach($alldata as $line_num = $line) { echo $line.br; } echo/td/tr/table; ? I have attached the result.txt file. However the output of the script is as follows: Query: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 Sbjct: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 which is not exactly as in the result.txt file in that the pipelines are displaced. Any pointer to this problem shall be appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Moses Query: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 Sbjct: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
Moses wrote: Hi Folks, I have a written a script in PHP which outputs the result from a text file. The PHP script is as follows: ?php $alldata = file(result.txt); echo tabletrtd; foreach($alldata as $line_num = $line) { echo $line.br; } echo/td/tr/table; ? I have attached the result.txt file. However the output of the script is as follows: Query: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 Sbjct: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 which is not exactly as in the result.txt file in that the pipelines are displaced. Any pointer to this problem shall be appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Moses Not a PHP problem, but a HTML problem: First, HTML compresses white space into just one space, so all of those leading spaces on line 2 are lost. Second, you are (probably) displaying using a proportionally-spaced font, so the narrow pipeline characters take up less width than the letters. So you need something like: ?php $alldata = file(result.txt); echo tabletrtd style='white-space: pre; font-family: monospace;'; foreach($alldata as $line_num = $line) { echo $line.\n; } echo/td/tr/table; ? -- Peter Ford phone: 01580 89 Developer fax: 01580 893399 Justcroft International Ltd., Staplehurst, Kent -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
You could even make it shorter, if you don't need the line numbers anyway: pre ? echo nl2br(file_get_contents('file.txt')); ? /pre 2009/5/14 Peter Ford p...@justcroft.com: Moses wrote: Hi Folks, I have a written a script in PHP which outputs the result from a text file. The PHP script is as follows: ?php $alldata = file(result.txt); echo tabletrtd; foreach($alldata as $line_num = $line) { echo $line.br; } echo/td/tr/table; ? I have attached the result.txt file. However the output of the script is as follows: Query: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 Sbjct: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 which is not exactly as in the result.txt file in that the pipelines are displaced. Any pointer to this problem shall be appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Moses Not a PHP problem, but a HTML problem: First, HTML compresses white space into just one space, so all of those leading spaces on line 2 are lost. Second, you are (probably) displaying using a proportionally-spaced font, so the narrow pipeline characters take up less width than the letters. So you need something like: ?php $alldata = file(result.txt); echo tabletrtd style='white-space: pre; font-family: monospace;'; foreach($alldata as $line_num = $line) { echo $line.\n; } echo/td/tr/table; ? -- Peter Ford phone: 01580 89 Developer fax: 01580 893399 Justcroft International Ltd., Staplehurst, Kent -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. Sincerely, Michael Roberts Civil Engineering Executive Recruiter Corporate Staffing Services 150 Monument Road, Suite 510 Bala Cynwyd, PA 19004 P 610-771-1084 F 610-771-0390 E mrobe...@jobscss.com mailto:mrobe...@jobscss.com From: Moses [mailto:jam...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:19 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP Hi Folks, I have a written a script in PHP which outputs the result from a text file. The PHP script is as follows: ?php $alldata = file(result.txt); echo tabletrtd; foreach($alldata as $line_num = $line) { echo $line.br; } echo/td/tr/table; ? I have attached the result.txt file. However the output of the script is as follows: Query: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 Sbjct: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 which is not exactly as in the result.txt file in that the pipelines are displaced. Any pointer to this problem shall be appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Moses
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
as far as i know you just send an email to: php-general-unsubscr...@lists.php.net and then reply to the confirmation - its a standard mailing list which you subscribed to at some point, no profiles or such like. Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. Sincerely, Michael Roberts Civil Engineering Executive Recruiter Corporate Staffing Services 150 Monument Road, Suite 510 Bala Cynwyd, PA 19004 P 610-771-1084 F 610-771-0390 E mrobe...@jobscss.com mailto:mrobe...@jobscss.com From: Moses [mailto:jam...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:19 AM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP Hi Folks, I have a written a script in PHP which outputs the result from a text file. The PHP script is as follows: ?php $alldata = file(result.txt); echo tabletrtd; foreach($alldata as $line_num = $line) { echo $line.br; } echo/td/tr/table; ? I have attached the result.txt file. However the output of the script is as follows: Query: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 Sbjct: 1 atggcaatcgtttcagcagattcgtaattcgagctcgcccatcgatcctcta 60 which is not exactly as in the result.txt file in that the pipelines are displaced. Any pointer to this problem shall be appreciated. Thanking you in advance. Moses -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:29 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. As I and many others have said before, the unsubscribe email address is on EVERY header sent from the PHP list. Note, I mean headers and not footers! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:29 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. As I and many others have said before, the unsubscribe email address is on EVERY header sent from the PHP list. Note, I mean headers and not footers! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Perhaps, but how many people actually (think to) look at e-mail message headers, other than the basic To, Subject, and Date that are usually plainly visible in mail clients? And it's not even like mail clients read the headers and add an Unsubscribe link/button to the UI when reading a message. :-) Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
Ok, I think we are almost there. First I was given php-general-unsubscr...@lists.php.net but that bounced back. Second, I use MS outlook ( 03 or 07) which does not accurately display headers, probably ( in my case at all) because it's audience is less savvy than this audience, and too much information can be dangerous. Thirdly I want to thank everybody for their attempts, and ask if somebody can copy and past the address ( provided it is not the same as the one above that did not work). Sincerely, Michael Roberts Civil Engineering Executive Recruiter Corporate Staffing Services 150 Monument Road, Suite 510 Bala Cynwyd, PA 19004 P 610-771-1084 F 610-771-0390 E mrobe...@jobscss.com -Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:50 PM To: Andrew Ballard Cc: Mike Roberts; Moses; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:30 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:29 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. As I and many others have said before, the unsubscribe email address is on EVERY header sent from the PHP list. Note, I mean headers and not footers! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Perhaps, but how many people actually (think to) look at e-mail message headers, other than the basic To, Subject, and Date that are usually plainly visible in mail clients? And it's not even like mail clients read the headers and add an Unsubscribe link/button to the UI when reading a message. :-) Andrew No, but that would be a pretty neat idea! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 16:01 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Ok, I think we are almost there. First I was given php-general-unsubscr...@lists.php.net but that bounced back. Second, I use MS outlook ( 03 or 07) which does not accurately display headers, probably ( in my case at all) because it's audience is less savvy than this audience, and too much information can be dangerous. Thirdly I want to thank everybody for their attempts, and ask if somebody can copy and past the address ( provided it is not the same as the one above that did not work). Sincerely, Michael Roberts Civil Engineering Executive Recruiter Corporate Staffing Services 150 Monument Road, Suite 510 Bala Cynwyd, PA 19004 P 610-771-1084 F 610-771-0390 E mrobe...@jobscss.com -Original Message- From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:50 PM To: Andrew Ballard Cc: Mike Roberts; Moses; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 15:30 -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:29 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. As I and many others have said before, the unsubscribe email address is on EVERY header sent from the PHP list. Note, I mean headers and not footers! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Perhaps, but how many people actually (think to) look at e-mail message headers, other than the basic To, Subject, and Date that are usually plainly visible in mail clients? And it's not even like mail clients read the headers and add an Unsubscribe link/button to the UI when reading a message. :-) Andrew No, but that would be a pretty neat idea! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Aforementioned headers (at least the important ones!) Mailing-List: contact php-general-h...@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: mailto:php-general-h...@lists.php.net list-unsubscribe: mailto:php-general-unsubscr...@lists.php.net list-post: mailto:php-general@lists.php.net List-Id: php-general.lists.php.net I believe for the unsubscribe the usual practice is to send an empty email with the subject line of 'UNSUBSCRIBE'. Empty means no signatures too ;) Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 03:30:44PM -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:29 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. As I and many others have said before, the unsubscribe email address is on EVERY header sent from the PHP list. Note, I mean headers and not footers! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Perhaps, but how many people actually (think to) look at e-mail message headers, other than the basic To, Subject, and Date that are usually plainly visible in mail clients? And it's not even like mail clients read the headers and add an Unsubscribe link/button to the UI when reading a message. :-) In most email clients, you can turn on full header display. As a list admin on about six lists and a member of numerous lists, I find it endlessly aggravating that people can't manage to unsubscribe their own addresses to email lists. Our LUG has a lists page on its website which clearly step-by-step indicates what must be done to unsubscribe. Yet people never even look to see if there is such a page. And then I've had people tell me they followed those instructions exactly, and it didn't work. No, they didn't or it would have worked, since people manage to follow those instructions successfully all the time. My stance is, if you're going to subscribe to an email list, learn how to unsubscribe, how to see if you've been inadvertantly unsubscribed, learn email netiquette on lists, etc. It reminds me of people who call tech support saying their mouse doesn't work. Then you find out they've picked it up and pointed it at the screen to make the pointer move (true story). If you're going to own a car, learn how to drive it. If you're going to own a computer, learn how to operate it. If you're going to program, read a book about it first (yes, you P.J.). /rant Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 03:30:44PM -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:29 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. As I and many others have said before, the unsubscribe email address is on EVERY header sent from the PHP list. Note, I mean headers and not footers! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Perhaps, but how many people actually (think to) look at e-mail message headers, other than the basic To, Subject, and Date that are usually plainly visible in mail clients? And it's not even like mail clients read the headers and add an Unsubscribe link/button to the UI when reading a message. :-) In most email clients, you can turn on full header display. Yes, I know you CAN do that. I'm just saying that most people WON'T do that for two reasons 1) it's an extra step and people are inherently lazy and 2) it shows a lot more information that most people care to see. Often the headers are longer than the message. As a list admin on about six lists and a member of numerous lists, I find it endlessly aggravating that people can't manage to unsubscribe their own addresses to email lists. Our LUG has a lists page on its website which clearly step-by-step indicates what must be done to unsubscribe. Yet people never even look to see if there is such a page. And then I've had people tell me they followed those instructions exactly, and it didn't work. No, they didn't or it would have worked, since people manage to follow those instructions successfully all the time. My stance is, if you're going to subscribe to an email list, learn how to unsubscribe, how to see if you've been inadvertantly unsubscribed, learn email netiquette on lists, etc. It reminds me of people who call tech support saying their mouse doesn't work. Then you find out they've picked it up and pointed it at the screen to make the pointer move (true story). If you're going to own a car, learn how to drive it. If you're going to own a computer, learn how to operate it. If you're going to program, read a book about it first (yes, you P.J.). /rant Paul -- Paul M. Foster I agree with you for the most part. I'm just saying that the presence of unsubscribe information in the message headers themselves is of very little value to most people. Andrew -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP]Cannot output the same data from text file in PHP
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 16:33 -0400, Paul M Foster wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 03:30:44PM -0400, Andrew Ballard wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Ashley Sheridan a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 09:29 -0400, Mike Roberts wrote: Is there a moderator or some responsible party who is in charge of this list. Please delete my profile and stop sending messages. This is the 6th such request. As I and many others have said before, the unsubscribe email address is on EVERY header sent from the PHP list. Note, I mean headers and not footers! Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk Perhaps, but how many people actually (think to) look at e-mail message headers, other than the basic To, Subject, and Date that are usually plainly visible in mail clients? And it's not even like mail clients read the headers and add an Unsubscribe link/button to the UI when reading a message. :-) In most email clients, you can turn on full header display. As a list admin on about six lists and a member of numerous lists, I find it endlessly aggravating that people can't manage to unsubscribe their own addresses to email lists. Our LUG has a lists page on its website which clearly step-by-step indicates what must be done to unsubscribe. Yet people never even look to see if there is such a page. And then I've had people tell me they followed those instructions exactly, and it didn't work. No, they didn't or it would have worked, since people manage to follow those instructions successfully all the time. My stance is, if you're going to subscribe to an email list, learn how to unsubscribe, how to see if you've been inadvertantly unsubscribed, learn email netiquette on lists, etc. It reminds me of people who call tech support saying their mouse doesn't work. Then you find out they've picked it up and pointed it at the screen to make the pointer move (true story). If you're going to own a car, learn how to drive it. If you're going to own a computer, learn how to operate it. If you're going to program, read a book about it first (yes, you P.J.). /rant Paul -- Paul M. Foster So, erm, driving without learning and getting a license is wrong? :p Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php