Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks
Christopher Lee wrote: I am new to PHP and wanted to ask a question which I think is related to this discussion thread. What are you referring to when using the term PHP Framework? I downloaded Eclipse-JEE with PHP Development Tools. Would this development environment constitute a PHP Framework? Eclipse IS more a 'development environment' (IDE) than a framework ... The key element to a framework is that it provides the basic functionality in you applications, so in my own case it provides user management, database access, templating via the smarty library. Some of the frameworks such as zend also link in with Eclipse via their own plugins, others actually run under PHP and provide development tools 'internally' of which codeigniter is probably a good example. My own 'interpretation' of framework is the core on which you build the extra bits you want. It provides in my case the 'MVC (Model / View / Controller)' elements and all the tools to make my 'frilly bits' work. So I use ADOdb and Smarty wrapped in bitweaver ... not the most modern of setups, but I know how it works internally so changing would be pointless ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] PHP frameworks
Hello, I am new to PHP and wanted to ask a question which I think is related to this discussion thread. What are you referring to when using the term PHP Framework? I downloaded Eclipse-JEE with PHP Development Tools. Would this development environment constitute a PHP Framework? Best, Christopher From: Laruence [larue...@baidu.com] Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 11:19 PM To: Floyd Resler Cc: PHP Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP frameworks Hi: if you have high performance need, you can considering Yaf( a PHP framework which is build in PHP extension) http://pecl.php.net/package/Yaf thanks Best regards 惠新宸 Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ On 2011/7/22 20:38, Floyd Resler wrote: On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 22 July 2011 13:26, Floyd Reslerfres...@adex-intl.com wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzienos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :) I actually use my own framework. I needed a very light weight, flexible framework. I designed it from the ground up to be very flexible and to use AJAX and jQuery on the client side. If you'd be interested in check it out, just let me know and I'll give you a link to the source code. Take care, Floyd http://www.brandonsavage.net/why-every-developer-should-write-their-own-framework/ Good article! I knew there was a reason why I never released mine but just offer it up on occasion to someone who might find it useful! :) Take care, Floyd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi: if you have high performance need, you can considering Yaf( a PHP framework which is build in PHP extension) http://pecl.php.net/package/Yaf thanks Best regards 惠新宸 Xinchen Hui http://www.laruence.com/ On 2011/7/22 20:38, Floyd Resler wrote: On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 22 July 2011 13:26, Floyd Reslerfres...@adex-intl.com wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzienos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :) I actually use my own framework. I needed a very light weight, flexible framework. I designed it from the ground up to be very flexible and to use AJAX and jQuery on the client side. If you'd be interested in check it out, just let me know and I'll give you a link to the source code. Take care, Floyd http://www.brandonsavage.net/why-every-developer-should-write-their-own-framework/ Good article! I knew there was a reason why I never released mine but just offer it up on occasion to someone who might find it useful! :) Take care, Floyd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :) I actually use my own framework. I needed a very light weight, flexible framework. I designed it from the ground up to be very flexible and to use AJAX and jQuery on the client side. If you'd be interested in check it out, just let me know and I'll give you a link to the source code. Take care, Floyd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On 22 July 2011 13:26, Floyd Resler fres...@adex-intl.com wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :) I actually use my own framework. I needed a very light weight, flexible framework. I designed it from the ground up to be very flexible and to use AJAX and jQuery on the client side. If you'd be interested in check it out, just let me know and I'll give you a link to the source code. Take care, Floyd http://www.brandonsavage.net/why-every-developer-should-write-their-own-framework/ -- Richard Quadling Twitter : EE : Zend : PHPDoc @RQuadling : e-e.com/M_248814.html : bit.ly/9O8vFY : bit.ly/lFnVea -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Richard Quadling wrote: On 22 July 2011 13:26, Floyd Resler fres...@adex-intl.com wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:41 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Shawn McKenzie nos...@mckenzies.net wrote: A la CakePHP. Will automagically build controllers and views for the admin of your tables/models if you wish. Oooh, interesting! I will check out CakePHP! Thanks for tip! :) I actually use my own framework. I needed a very light weight, flexible framework. I designed it from the ground up to be very flexible and to use AJAX and jQuery on the client side. If you'd be interested in check it out, just let me know and I'll give you a link to the source code. Take care, Floyd http://www.brandonsavage.net/why-every-developer-should-write-their-own-framework/ Good article! I knew there was a reason why I never released mine but just offer it up on occasion to someone who might find it useful! :) Take care, Floyd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP frameworks
Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, Try CodeIgniter ( http://codeigniter.com ). It's a lightweight, well-engineered framework with relatively transparent code (meaning you can examine the source and see relatively easily what they're doing). Documentation is some of the best out there. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, Try CodeIgniter ( http://codeigniter.com ). It's a lightweight, well-engineered framework with relatively transparent code (meaning you can examine the source and see relatively easily what they're doing). Documentation is some of the best out there. Using Kohana 2. Its too old. But most of my skeleton codes are written in this framework. So not changing it. -- Shiplu Mokadd.im Follow me, http://twitter.com/shiplu Innovation distinguishes between follower and leader -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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+1 for CI! it's a joy to work with Bastien Koert 905-904-0334 On 2011-07-21, at 5:20 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, Try CodeIgniter ( http://codeigniter.com ). It's a lightweight, well-engineered framework with relatively transparent code (meaning you can examine the source and see relatively easily what they're doing). Documentation is some of the best out there. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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EBastien phps...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for CI! it's a joy to work with Bastien Koert 905-904-0334 On 2011-07-21, at 5:20 PM, Paul M Foster pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 03:59:52PM -0500, Chris Stinemetz wrote: Hello all, I am thinking about venturing into PHP frameworks, but I would like to get advice on what the correct selection would be for someone that is about intermediate in PHP knowledge. Thank you, Try CodeIgniter ( http://codeigniter.com ). It's a lightweight, well-engineered framework with relatively transparent code (meaning you can examine the source and see relatively easily what they're doing). Documentation is some of the best out there. Paul -- Paul M. Foster http://noferblatz.com http://quillandmouse.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php I agree, codeigniter is great, its what we use at work. Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Frameworks
First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems to be the most promising? Thanks, Marc
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--- Use FreeOpenSourceSoftwares, Stop piracy, Let the developers live. Get a Free CD of Ubuntu mailed to your door without any cost. Visit : www.ubuntu.com -- On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, HallMarc Websites m...@hallmarcwebsites.com wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems to be the most promising? YII(Yes It Is) is claiming to be next best framework. Thanks, Marc
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On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 11:54:01PM -0400, HallMarc Websites wrote: First time caller; long time listener.. I have been looking at various PHP MVC frameworks; Limb3, Symphony, Mojavi, Navigator, WACT, etc. I'm looking for any input anyone might have regarding which framework seems to be the most promising? Use CodeIgniter. It's about the lightest weight and relatively easy to understand. Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? I echo others in that there is not yet a common consensus. I have started putting together my own framework as just a common directory structure and code repository from projects that I have worked on. I prefer my own code because I have this bit of OCD about using code that I did not write if I do not fully understand every aspect of it, unless I fully trust the source. I trust PEAR and often use some code from there. Anyway, you asked about frameworks. I have been spending some cycles looking at TYPO3 (http://typo3.com/) and so far it is pretty impressive. I have heard from others that it is quite robust and almost a CMS in itself. However I have not fully explored all of it so I will hold my opinion on it until then. I also hear the learning curve for TYPO3 is very steep but well worth the climb. Jonathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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What about CakePHP and Code Igniter? I know working with Code Igniter easier than CakePHP, but CakePHP is more capable than Code Igniter. On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Robert Cummings wrote: On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 04:15 +0200, rich gray wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: [chop] An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :) Cheers, Rob. I think Rob is being unduly modest - correct me if I am wrong but he is the core developer of the InterJinn php framework - http://interjinn.com - it's been out there for a while now (read: robust, fully featured) and the ZF is still in beta I think... *lol* Thanks for the props. I don't really promote InterJinn anymore. I actively develop it as my needs arise for my customers (which is failry often) but the documentation is out of date and I haven't found time lately to improve upon that. It fulfills all my own needs (and when it doesn't I just add new stuff :) But as someone said frameworks never meet all your needs and eventually it comes down to taste and community. At any rate, there are probably hundreds of frameworks out there now, and voting for myself seems self gratifying *heheh*. BTW I posted under a different email address earlier because I just recently upgraded my email client from evolution 1.4 to 2.6.1 and it seems to be having issues with my default account setting :/ Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hidayet Dogan schreef: What about CakePHP and Code Igniter? I know working with Code Igniter easier than CakePHP, but CakePHP is more capable than Code Igniter. Hi, Lately frameworks have become a real *hype*. Currently, there are more than 40 frameworks out there, and new ones are being released daily. This gives us a wide variety of frameworks to choose from, and pick the one that fits to most of our needs. This comparison chart gives you an overview of the functionality each framework offers: http://www.phpit.net/demo/framework%20comparison/chart.php Personally, I think that the community at the Zend Framework is doing a pretty good job. Everything is coded very well, with a lot of possibilities to extend things to your personal needs (if nessecary). Regards, Andries Seutens Belgium http://andries.systray.be -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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--=neXtPaRt_1154507404 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Personally, I think that the community at the Zend Framework is doing a pretty good job. Everything is coded very well, with a lot of possibilities to extend things to your personal needs (if nessecary). The ZF is OK, its really immature though, but the advantage being that it is coded in a similar way, as well as similar thinking as our framework - chisimba (http://5ive.uwc.ac.za/ ) In fact we have used some of the components from ZF in it already. --Paul --=neXtPaRt_1154507404 Content-Type: text/plain; All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm --=neXtPaRt_1154507404-- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion
What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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This one time, at band camp, Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. If you want something solid and mature, you cant go past ezPublish and ezComponents http://www.ez.no Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 12:35 -0400, Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. OK, from my side, we have 2 frameworks, one more mature than the other. Both are pretty much the same architecture (MVC everything abstracted, multilingual etc) but one is specifically geared for php4 and the other php5.1.2 and above. Both are GPL licenced and make heavy use of pear objects. You can download the KEWL.NextGen application, built on the PHP4 framework, KINKY (Yes its a recursive acronym), or go for the less mature, but much more fun PHP5 framework (Chisimba - A Chechewu word for the wooden pole framework used to build a traditional African house). Both are products of Africa, made in Africa as part of a collaborative network of over 16 African Universities and 60 developers all over the continent. If you contribute to this project, you are not only sharing code, but building skills in Africa! :) Both projects can be downloaded from http://avoir.uwc.ac.za (CMS module on KINKY) and the PHP5 stuff can be accessed at http://5ive.uwc.ac.za/app/ . We will be making a first public pre-release of this in the next couple of days... Both projects have very active developer and user mailing lists. Let me know if you need some more information! --Paul All Email originating from UWC is covered by disclaimer http://www.uwc.ac.za/portal/uwc2006/content/mail_disclaimer/index.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I like what I've been seeing from Solar at solarphp.com. And Paul Jones, the maintainer, is extremely active on the project and the community seems to be very much in love with the framework. Community is a little small but going pretty strong. James Kilbride -Original Message- From: Gabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:36 PM To: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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There is no 'common consensus' but I am sure you'll be getting lots and lots, I would even say LOTS, of sugestions. Satyam - Original Message - From: Gabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 19:44:28 +0200 Satyam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no 'common consensus' but I am sure you'll be getting lots and lots, I would even say LOTS, of sugestions. I would be very skeptical of any suggestions because only someone who tried multiple frameworks would be in a position to say with any authority that one is better than another. And even then I would still be skeptical. Compounded by the fact that most fall into the almost what I need but not quite category (don't they all?) I see no other option but to try each. Also, reasoning that you will eventually need to modify it you might as well pick something that is relatively simple and extensible. Meaning, it doesn't need to be mature. It just needs to be clearly organized and well thought out. After looking at the source for a few it should become apparent what techniques are superior to others. Mike -- Michael B Allen PHP Extension for SSO w/ Windows Group Authorization http://www.ioplex.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Frameworks - Opinion
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 12:35 -0400, Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? I use Zend Pro - it makes for very effective development, especially when developing in a team. It supports Subversion and CVS version control, has excellent predictive typing, PHPDoc support, syntax highlighting, ftp and sftp support, the list goes on... Also, for about $80 (off the top of my head), there is a great course run by PHP Architect on getting the most from it - it really is a powerful tool. Downside is it's more costly than others, but well worth it in my opinion. Just my thoughts... Cheers Steve -- Steve Turnbull Digital Content Developer YHGfL Foundation e [EMAIL PROTECTED] t 01724 275030 The YHGfL Foundation Disclaimer can be found at: http://www.yhgfl.net/foundation-services/yhgfl-email-disclaimer/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Steve Turnbull wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 12:35 -0400, Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? I use Zend Pro - it makes for very effective development, especially when developing in a team. It supports Subversion and CVS version control, has excellent predictive typing, PHPDoc support, syntax highlighting, ftp and sftp support, the list goes on... Also, for about $80 (off the top of my head), there is a great course run by PHP Architect on getting the most from it - it really is a powerful tool. Downside is it's more costly than others, but well worth it in my opinion. Just my thoughts... Cheers Steve Zend Studio Pro isn't a PHP framework. It's a PHP IDE. Zend has multiple products. Regards, Adam. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 23:40 +0100, Steve Turnbull wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 12:35 -0400, Gabe wrote: What's the common consensus as to a solid PHP framework to use for application development? There seems to be a number of them out there, but I'm not sure which one's are the most robust, actively developed, secure, etc etc. Thoughts? I use Zend Pro - it makes for very effective development, especially when developing in a team. It supports Subversion and CVS version control, has excellent predictive typing, PHPDoc support, syntax highlighting, ftp and sftp support, the list goes on... Also, for about $80 (off the top of my head), there is a great course run by PHP Architect on getting the most from it - it really is a powerful tool. Downside is it's more costly than others, but well worth it in my opinion. An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :) Cheers, Rob. -- Robert Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] InterJinn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Robert Cummings wrote: [chop] An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :) Cheers, Rob. I think Rob is being unduly modest - correct me if I am wrong but he is the core developer of the InterJinn php framework - http://interjinn.com - it's been out there for a while now (read: robust, fully featured) and the ZF is still in beta I think... cheers rich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 04:15 +0200, rich gray wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: [chop] An IDE is not a framework, it's an IDE :) Cheers, Rob. I think Rob is being unduly modest - correct me if I am wrong but he is the core developer of the InterJinn php framework - http://interjinn.com - it's been out there for a while now (read: robust, fully featured) and the ZF is still in beta I think... *lol* Thanks for the props. I don't really promote InterJinn anymore. I actively develop it as my needs arise for my customers (which is failry often) but the documentation is out of date and I haven't found time lately to improve upon that. It fulfills all my own needs (and when it doesn't I just add new stuff :) But as someone said frameworks never meet all your needs and eventually it comes down to taste and community. At any rate, there are probably hundreds of frameworks out there now, and voting for myself seems self gratifying *heheh*. BTW I posted under a different email address earlier because I just recently upgraded my email client from evolution 1.4 to 2.6.1 and it seems to be having issues with my default account setting :/ Cheers, Rob. -- .. | InterJinn Application Framework - http://www.interjinn.com | :: | An application and templating framework for PHP. Boasting | | a powerful, scalable system for accessing system services | | such as forms, properties, sessions, and caches. InterJinn | | also provides an extremely flexible architecture for | | creating re-usable components quickly and easily. | `' -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Frameworks?
Has anyone used any of the following frameworks? What is the general opinion of using frameworks etc? WASP - http://wasp.sourceforge.net/content/ Symfony - http://www.symfony-project.com/ Prado - http://www.xisc.com/ WACT - http://www.phpwact.org/ CakePHP - http://www.cakephp.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I haven't used them, but our local user group recently had a meeting on PHP frameworks[1]. The feeling of the people that have used them was that Symfony was a good project, and that CakePHP was a particularly large installation. No one mentioned having used Prado, WACT or WASP. We also had the creator of PHP on Trax present on the framework he created that very closely resembles Ruby on Rails. His company used Trax to build KatrinaHousing.org, a site that helped hurricane victims find housing. I have a copy of his (John Peterson's) slides on my website[2]. Richard [1] http://uphpu.org/article.php?story=2006011715500753 [2] http://richardkmiller.com/blog/archives/2006/01/eventful-month-in- technology (third section) On Jan 27, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Jay Paulson wrote: Has anyone used any of the following frameworks? What is the general opinion of using frameworks etc? WASP - http://wasp.sourceforge.net/content/ Symfony - http://www.symfony-project.com/ Prado - http://www.xisc.com/ WACT - http://www.phpwact.org/ CakePHP - http://www.cakephp.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Script Head wrote: Nobody has mentioned Fusebox (www.fusebox.org). I have been using it to develop PHP applications for about 2 years. It has proven to be extremely flexible when a large number of developers collaborate on one project. jedit :) Love macros and plugins! http://www.jedit.org/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I've tried mvc, Cake, and Prado. Each is a port of a framework for a different language (Java struts, ruby rails and asp.net respectively). Of the three, my favorite has been Prado, because of its emphasis on the user interface of the web app. My choice isn't based on any metrics, i just think UI is cool, and once I wrapped my head around the concept of components, I found it the easy to use. Scott On Dec 23, 2005, at 3:27 PM, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Thanks. I searched on Zend PHP Framework because I had seen it referenced somewhere, however I can just find plans and objectives and no usable framework. Thanks! -Shawn Zareef Ahmed wrote: Hi, There are a lot of PHP frameworks like Mojavi, Phrame, php.MVC, phpwebtk, Horde. My choice is Mojavi. BTW Zend is also doing some great work on it. Zareef Ahmed - Original Message - From: Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: [PHP] PHP Frameworks Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? I'm looking for something that is easy to use, fast and stable. Thanks! -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php PHP Expert Consultancy in Development http://www.indiaphp.com Yahoo! : consultant_php MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php Scott DeMers Web Coordinator International Studies and Programs [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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On Friday 23 December 2005 20:57, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? There are a lot of PHP frameworks available, some more mature than others but not yet a predominant one. Anyway if you're going to develop with PHP5 I recommend you ZNF: http://znf.zeronotice.com Best regards. -- Alessandro 'Aronnax' Rossini web - www.aronnax.it e-mail - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ZeroNotice IT Solutions - www.zeronotice.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi, a very good framework is ZNF PHP Framework. It is available at http://znf.zeronotice.com/. This framework is very clear and easy to use. Developers are very active in this work and documentation is very good. I have chosen ZNF Framework because is fast and modular. bye On Friday 23 December 2005 20:57, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? I'm looking for something that is easy to use, fast and stable. Thanks! -Shawn -- Fabiano Ricci HomePage --:. http://www.stalsy.it Blog --:. http://blog.stalsy.com Public Key --:. http://www.stalsy.it/key.php E-Mail --:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] || [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ--:. 302346155 MSN--:. [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpPsQ1fiV09j.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Yes, this looks nice. Does anybody have experience with Prado? I know it won a Zend PHP5 coding contest in the past. Thanks! -Shawn Fabiano Ricci wrote: Hi, a very good framework is ZNF PHP Framework. It is available at http://znf.zeronotice.com/. This framework is very clear and easy to use. Developers are very active in this work and documentation is very good. I have chosen ZNF Framework because is fast and modular. bye On Friday 23 December 2005 20:57, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? I'm looking for something that is easy to use, fast and stable. Thanks! -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Nobody has mentioned Fusebox (www.fusebox.org). I have been using it to develop PHP applications for about 2 years. It has proven to be extremely flexible when a large number of developers collaborate on one project.
[PHP] PHP Frameworks
Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? I'm looking for something that is easy to use, fast and stable. Thanks! -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Hi, There are a lot of PHP frameworks like Mojavi, Phrame, php.MVC, phpwebtk, Horde. My choice is Mojavi. BTW Zend is also doing some great work on it. Zareef Ahmed - Original Message - From: Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: [PHP] PHP Frameworks Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? I'm looking for something that is easy to use, fast and stable. Thanks! -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php PHP Expert Consultancy in Development http://www.indiaphp.com Yahoo! : consultant_php MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Thanks. I searched on Zend PHP Framework because I had seen it referenced somewhere, however I can just find plans and objectives and no usable framework. Thanks! -Shawn Zareef Ahmed wrote: Hi, There are a lot of PHP frameworks like Mojavi, Phrame, php.MVC, phpwebtk, Horde. My choice is Mojavi. BTW Zend is also doing some great work on it. Zareef Ahmed - Original Message - From: Shawn McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: php-general@lists.php.net Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: [PHP] PHP Frameworks Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? I'm looking for something that is easy to use, fast and stable. Thanks! -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php PHP Expert Consultancy in Development http://www.indiaphp.com Yahoo! : consultant_php MSN : [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Shawn McKenzie wrote: I searched on Zend PHP Framework because I had seen it referenced somewhere, however I can just find plans and objectives and no usable framework. It hasn't been released yet. However, there are many components that are finished, and I think Zend hopes to release a beta soon. There was a recent webcast that was pretty informative. I summarize it here: http://shiflett.org/archive/171 You can also watch the recording: http://www.phparch.com/webcasts/recordings/dec0205_zend.php If you want a framework that you can use now, the Zend Framework is not for you. In a few months, it might be something to consider. Hope that helps. Chris -- Chris Shiflett Brain Bulb, The PHP Consultancy http://brainbulb.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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I haven't tried them yet, but I've been tagging all the PHP frameworks I come across: http://del.icio.us/rkm28/php+framework The first one I want to try is PHP on Trax (http:// www.phpontrax.com/). It was used to build the KatrinaHousing.org site that was used to provide housing for victims right after the hurricane. Richard --- Richard K. Miller www.richardkmiller.com On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:57 PM, Shawn McKenzie wrote: Is there a good recent article on PHP Frameworks, or do people here has a predominant one that outshines the others? I'm looking for something that is easy to use, fast and stable. Thanks! -Shawn -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Simon Reye wrote: I'm moving away from Cold Fusion and am considering java or php. I've mucked around with Struts and Coccoon on the java side and think they are great. There does not however seem to be any well backed projects similar to these for php. Can anyone point me to a good php MVC framework? Haven't used it personally, but looks promising http://phrame.sourceforge.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP Frameworks
I'm moving away from Cold Fusion and am considering java or php. I've mucked around with Struts and Coccoon on the java side and think they are great. There does not however seem to be any well backed projects similar to these for php. Can anyone point me to a good php MVC framework? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Simon Reye wrote: I'm moving away from Cold Fusion and am considering java or php. I've mucked around with Struts and Coccoon on the java side and think they are great. There does not however seem to be any well backed projects similar to these for php. Can anyone point me to a good php MVC framework? here you go: http://wact.sourceforge.net/index.php/MvcFrameworksWrittenInPhp cheers, Jeffery -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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Jeffery Fernandez wrote: Simon Reye wrote: I'm moving away from Cold Fusion and am considering java or php. I've mucked around with Struts and Coccoon on the java side and think they are great. There does not however seem to be any well backed projects similar to these for php. Can anyone point me to a good php MVC framework? here you go: http://wact.sourceforge.net/index.php/MvcFrameworksWrittenInPhp cheers, Jeffery Thanks Jeff, There a quite a few in that list some not even out of alpha stage and some of the more popular ones have not had much work done to them in over a year. Have you personally tried any of them? Simon -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
