Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-29 Thread Nathan Rixham
Michael A. Peters wrote: > Michael A. Peters wrote: >> Daevid Vincent wrote: >>> >>> I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. >>> I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. >>> >>> "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" >>> http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opn

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-29 Thread Phpster
I converted one that was originally in classic ASP. It's terrible, with poor design and large overhead. Used for a few projects, but now use codeigniter. It's the easiest to adapt without many of the restrictions of th larger frameworks. Bastien Sent from my iPod On Jan 29, 2010, at 5:08

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-29 Thread Teus Benschop
What could help a developer is to plunder the available open-source frameworks and use the loot in his own code. At times these frame-works are well thought out, and some of their classes are clean, and can easily be moved into other contexts. Teus. On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 03:30 -0800, Tom Sparks wr

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-29 Thread Tom Sparks
--- On Fri, 29/1/10, Michael A. Peters wrote: > Michael A. Peters wrote: > > Daevid Vincent wrote: > >>  I'm not looking to start a holy war here or > re-hash the tired debate. I just want some hard cold numbers > to look at. > >> > >> "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" > >> http:/

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-29 Thread Michael A. Peters
Michael A. Peters wrote: Daevid Vincent wrote: I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e And for those interested, here are the resu

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-27 Thread Stuart Dallas
On 27 Jan 2010, at 00:17, Daevid Vincent wrote: > And for those interested, here are the results of the last poll: > > "To add the final ?> in PHP or not..." > http://www.rapidpoll.net/show.aspx?id=arc1opy > > I'm relieved to know I'm in the majority (almost 2:1) who close their > opening PHP tag

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-27 Thread Teus Benschop
Shortly ago, moving from programming in Gtk+ / C++ to PHP for the first time in my life, I made a good study of the available rapid application development options out there, studied a few PHP frameworks, read the opinions on the internet about it, then initially decided to use a framework to speed

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-27 Thread Rene Veerman
I usually roll my own, unless there's a free lib / cms that does the trick near-perfectly, and is well-written (so extensible) About 80-90% of my tasks require me to use one of my own frameworks (i have 2, one "simple" and one with many graphical gimmicks), and i re-use / improve the mid-level fun

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Lester Caine
Daevid Vincent wrote: I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e I'm not sure quite what to answer here. I've been using bitweaver for

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread clancy_1
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:57:05 -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com (Paul M Foster) wrote: >On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 04:17:26PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > >> >> I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. >> I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. >> >> "Do you use a

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread James McLean
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Michael Kubler wrote: > I read somewhere (can't find the link at the moment) that there's probably > 2.5 frameworks per PHP developer. There would be a lot of truth to that, I hacked up a smaller & simpler PHP4-centric framework back in the days when it was suppor

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Michael Kubler
I read somewhere (can't find the link at the moment) that there's probably 2.5 frameworks per PHP developer. I know that when I started I was writing my own bits and pieces of two frameworks. One was function based and the other was OO based. I've since found the Yii

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 04:17:26PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. > I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. > > "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" > http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e I voted, but like o

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Paul M Foster
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 04:17:26PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > And for those interested, here are the results of the last poll: > > "To add the final ?> in PHP or not..." > http://www.rapidpoll.net/show.aspx?id=arc1opy > > I'm relieved to know I'm in the majority (almost 2:1) who close thei

RE: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 17:01 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:18 PM > > > > On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 16:17 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > > > I'm not looking to start

RE: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Daevid Vincent
> -Original Message- > From: Ashley Sheridan [mailto:a...@ashleysheridan.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:18 PM > > On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 16:17 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > > I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the > > tired debate. I just want some hard

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Michael A. Peters
Daevid Vincent wrote: I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e And for those interested, here are the results of the last poll: "To

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread James McLean
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Daevid Vincent wrote: > > I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. > I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. > > "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" > http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e I have rolled my own in the p

Re: [PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 16:17 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote: > I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. > I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. > > "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" > http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e > > > And for those interes

[PHP] Do you use a public framework or roll your own?

2010-01-26 Thread Daevid Vincent
I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e And for those interested, here are the results of the last poll: "To add the final ?> in PHP