Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-18 Thread Robert Cummings
tedd wrote: At 8:47 PM -0400 6/17/09, Robert Cummings wrote: tedd wrote: As I understand it and is my experience, that is true -- a stand-alone HTML attribute should be equal to itself, such as selected="selected", or more specifically selected="SELECTED". How is that MORE specific? XHTML is l

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-18 Thread tedd
At 8:47 PM -0400 6/17/09, Robert Cummings wrote: tedd wrote: As I understand it and is my experience, that is true -- a stand-alone HTML attribute should be equal to itself, such as selected="selected", or more specifically selected="SELECTED". How is that MORE specific? XHTML is like a cro

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-18 Thread PJ
Ford, Mike wrote: > On 17 June 2009 23:56, PJ advised: > > >> Nisse Engstr�m wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: >>> >>> >>> This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a value, so an XHTML conformant page will use >>>

RE: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-18 Thread Ford, Mike
On 17 June 2009 23:56, PJ advised: > Nisse Engström wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: >> >> >>> This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a >>> value, so an XHTML conformant page will use >> name="selector"> (or something similar such as >>

RE: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-18 Thread Ford, Mike
On 17 June 2009 22:05, Nisse Engström advised: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: > >> This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a >> value, so an XHTML conformant page will use > name="selector"> (or something similar such as > name="selector">). The

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-18 Thread Nisse Engström
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:59:36 -0400, tedd wrote: > As I understand it and is my experience, that is > true -- a stand-alone HTML attribute should be > equal to itself, such as selected="selected", or In HTML (as opposed to XHTML), there are a bunch of shortcut features[1] that allow you to writ

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-18 Thread Nisse Engström
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:51:55 +0100, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > I read somewhere that the XHTML standards say that for all attributes > that would normally be standalone in HTML, they should be given a value > that is the same as the attribute name, so you would use > multiple="multiple", selected="s

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Robert Cummings
Michael A. Peters wrote: Robert Cummings wrote: Ash: As I understand it and is my experience, that is true -- a stand-alone HTML attribute should be equal to itself, such as selected="selected", or more specifically selected="SELECTED". How is that MORE specific? XHTML is like a cross-se

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Michael A. Peters
Robert Cummings wrote: Ash: As I understand it and is my experience, that is true -- a stand-alone HTML attribute should be equal to itself, such as selected="selected", or more specifically selected="SELECTED". How is that MORE specific? XHTML is like a cross-section of XML and HTML. It i

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Robert Cummings
tedd wrote: At 10:51 PM +0100 6/17/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 23:05 +0200, Nisse Engström wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: > This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a > value, so an XHTML conformant page will use

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Michael A. Peters
Ford, Mike wrote: On 17 June 2009 02:11, Shawn McKenzie advised: PJ wrote: I'm sorry, guys, but I am really getting po'd. The irresponsible sloppiness and stupidity is just getting to me. In my quest for a way to populate a multiple option select box I have run across so many errors that it's

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread LinuxManMikeC
I don't know what validator you're using, but according to http://validator.w3.org/ (as official as it gets) the following fragment is correct in HTML 4.01, HTML 5, XHTML 1.0 Strict, and XHTML 1.1: test Thus sayeth the W3C, so let it be written, so let it be done. Go read a tutorial on the t

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 18:59 -0400, tedd wrote: > At 10:51 PM +0100 6/17/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: > >On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 23:05 +0200, Nisse Engström wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: > >> > >> > This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread tedd
At 10:51 PM +0100 6/17/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote: On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 23:05 +0200, Nisse Engström wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: > This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a > value, so an XHTML conformant page will use name="selecto

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread PJ
Nisse Engström wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: > > >> This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a >> value, so an XHTML conformant page will use > name="selector"> (or something similar such as > name="selector">). The only inconsistency he

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Ashley Sheridan
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 23:05 +0200, Nisse Engström wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: > > > This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a > > value, so an XHTML conformant page will use > name="selector"> (or something similar such as > name="sel

Re: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Nisse Engström
On Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:18:09 +0100, "Ford, Mike" wrote: > This is very true -- but XHTML requires *all* attributes to have a > value, so an XHTML conformant page will use name="selector"> (or something similar such as name="selector">). The only inconsistency here is that different people > have

RE: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-17 Thread Ford, Mike
On 17 June 2009 02:11, Shawn McKenzie advised: > PJ wrote: >> I'm sorry, guys, but I am really getting po'd. >> The irresponsible sloppiness and stupidity is just getting to me. >> In my quest for a way to populate a multiple option select box I have >> run across so many errors that it's beyond b

RE: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-16 Thread HallMarc Websites
> -Original Message- > From: Shawn McKenzie [mailto:nos...@mckenzies.net] > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:11 PM > To: php-general@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity > > PJ wrote: > > I'm sorry, guys, but I am really getting po

[PHP] Re: sloppiness & stupidity

2009-06-16 Thread Shawn McKenzie
PJ wrote: > I'm sorry, guys, but I am really getting po'd. > The irresponsible sloppiness and stupidity is just getting to me. > In my quest for a way to populate a multiple option select box I have > run across so many errors that it's beyond belief... such nonsense as > "select for select or sele