RE: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables
Nabil, That is one way but it means that Jay would have to use a form and not a link. You could set a cookie. That would work, but it relies on the user allowing cookies. George -Original Message- From: nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2003 2:58 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables use hidden field (pure html) and then u have it as $yourhiddenfield on the next page even u have the register global off.. Nabil Jay Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been searching for an answer to this for a couple of hours now and cant find anything. I believe that there is a secure way of doing this but I think my brain is having a momentary lapse... I have these variables: $eventid = 1; $age = 15; Is there a way to pass these variables to the next page so I can continue using them without doing something like this: A HREF=test.php?eventid=1age=15 I would rather not have the variables be seen or known to the end user for security reasons because they could change them in the URL. I know it has something to do with $_GET and $_POST because I do have register_globals set to OFF in my php file and I do not want to turn them on TIA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables
That was my thought too, George. But if the user does not have cookies enabled, then I believe, as Thomas pointed out, that a SESSION is the only way to handle the variables. I have never done a correct session so I am trying to learn how to do them without having a userid and password for each user. I have played with sessions but I don't know if I am doing them correctly or how to do sessions without authentication. Jay At 03:14 PM 6/21/2003 +0100, George Pitcher wrote: Nabil, That is one way but it means that Jay would have to use a form and not a link. You could set a cookie. That would work, but it relies on the user allowing cookies. George -Original Message- From: nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2003 2:58 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables use hidden field (pure html) and then u have it as $yourhiddenfield on the next page even u have the register global off.. Nabil Jay Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been searching for an answer to this for a couple of hours now and cant find anything. I believe that there is a secure way of doing this but I think my brain is having a momentary lapse... I have these variables: $eventid = 1; $age = 15; Is there a way to pass these variables to the next page so I can continue using them without doing something like this: A HREF=test.php?eventid=1age=15 I would rather not have the variables be seen or known to the end user for security reasons because they could change them in the URL. I know it has something to do with $_GET and $_POST because I do have register_globals set to OFF in my php file and I do not want to turn them on TIA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables
Jay, I've never ventured into 'sessions' (not ones without drinks) but I've a feeling that if the user has turned cookies off then sessions are out as well as they require a cookie being stored on the user's machine. Someone will surely correct me if I am wrong. I went to the PHP conference in Frankfurt about 18 months ago and Rasmus was talking about 'clean' URLs (ithout the 'query' string. I never did find out how though? Cheers George -Original Message- From: Jay Fitzgerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2003 3:19 pm To: George Pitcher; nabil; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables That was my thought too, George. But if the user does not have cookies enabled, then I believe, as Thomas pointed out, that a SESSION is the only way to handle the variables. I have never done a correct session so I am trying to learn how to do them without having a userid and password for each user. I have played with sessions but I don't know if I am doing them correctly or how to do sessions without authentication. Jay At 03:14 PM 6/21/2003 +0100, George Pitcher wrote: Nabil, That is one way but it means that Jay would have to use a form and not a link. You could set a cookie. That would work, but it relies on the user allowing cookies. George -Original Message- From: nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2003 2:58 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables use hidden field (pure html) and then u have it as $yourhiddenfield on the next page even u have the register global off.. Nabil Jay Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been searching for an answer to this for a couple of hours now and cant find anything. I believe that there is a secure way of doing this but I think my brain is having a momentary lapse... I have these variables: $eventid = 1; $age = 15; Is there a way to pass these variables to the next page so I can continue using them without doing something like this: A HREF=test.php?eventid=1age=15 I would rather not have the variables be seen or known to the end user for security reasons because they could change them in the URL. I know it has something to do with $_GET and $_POST because I do have register_globals set to OFF in my php file and I do not want to turn them on TIA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables
you can transfer the session-id (which is unique) through the url too. but then its only the session-id and not the actual data and the session-id can't be guessed that simple to reach another user's data. Thomas On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:31:56 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Pitcher) wrote: Jay, I've never ventured into 'sessions' (not ones without drinks) but I've a feeling that if the user has turned cookies off then sessions are out as well as they require a cookie being stored on the user's machine. Someone will surely correct me if I am wrong. I went to the PHP conference in Frankfurt about 18 months ago and Rasmus was talking about 'clean' URLs (ithout the 'query' string. I never did find out how though? Cheers George -Original Message- From: Jay Fitzgerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2003 3:19 pm To: George Pitcher; nabil; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables That was my thought too, George. But if the user does not have cookies enabled, then I believe, as Thomas pointed out, that a SESSION is the only way to handle the variables. I have never done a correct session so I am trying to learn how to do them without having a userid and password for each user. I have played with sessions but I don't know if I am doing them correctly or how to do sessions without authentication. Jay At 03:14 PM 6/21/2003 +0100, George Pitcher wrote: Nabil, That is one way but it means that Jay would have to use a form and not a link. You could set a cookie. That would work, but it relies on the user allowing cookies. George -Original Message- From: nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2003 2:58 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables use hidden field (pure html) and then u have it as $yourhiddenfield on the next page even u have the register global off.. Nabil Jay Fitzgerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I have been searching for an answer to this for a couple of hours now and cant find anything. I believe that there is a secure way of doing this but I think my brain is having a momentary lapse... I have these variables: $eventid = 1; $age = 15; Is there a way to pass these variables to the next page so I can continue using them without doing something like this: A HREF=test.php?eventid=1age=15 I would rather not have the variables be seen or known to the end user for security reasons because they could change them in the URL. I know it has something to do with $_GET and $_POST because I do have register_globals set to OFF in my php file and I do not want to turn them on TIA -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Passing Variables
On Jun 21, 2003, George Pitcher claimed that: |Jay, | |I've never ventured into 'sessions' (not ones without drinks) but I've a |feeling that if the user has turned cookies off then sessions are out as |well as they require a cookie being stored on the user's machine. | |Someone will surely correct me if I am wrong. | |I went to the PHP conference in Frankfurt about 18 months ago and Rasmus was |talking about 'clean' URLs (ithout the 'query' string. I never did find out |how though? | |Cheers | |George | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-generalm=105597453308214w=2 form name=myform method=POST action=validate.php input type=hidden name=secret1 value=15 input type=hidden name=secret2 value=secret login code a href=javascript:void(document.myform.submit())next page/a/form If you really want to keep the values a secret, you will have to substitute them with a reverable hash or some other method to keep prying eyes away. Jeff -- Registered Linux user #304026. lynx -source http://jharris.rallycentral.us/jharris.asc | gpg --import Key fingerprint = 52FC 20BD 025A 8C13 5FC6 68C6 9CF9 46C2 B089 0FED Responses to this message should conform to RFC 1855. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Passing variables between servers
[snip] The session variables are need on both server for authorization needs. The two servers host two separate Intranet apps and I am trying to join the two together into one Intranet app. The variable will be used on both sides. The reason I don't what to use cookie is your users keep disabling them. They think a web site can use a cookie to break into their computer. They also disable JavaScript a lot too. [/snip] What about installing PHP on the IIS server and when time comes to pass back the information using the same method? Trying to think outside the box ... Jay *** * Texas PHP Developers Conf Spring 2003 * * T Bar M Resort Conference Center * * New Braunfels, Texas* * San Antonio Area PHP Developers Group * * Interested? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables between servers
I have thought about this also, but I need the variables in the ASP session and I don't have the time line to rewrite the ASP pages over in PHP. The current ASP app took a year to develop. I have thought about having PHP on both servers and having the PHP on the 2000 server just save the variables to a XML file or ini file, then have the ASP code read it in, but I thought there is probable some easy solution out there for passing information around. cURL looked like a solution but I can't find information on it using ASP. Maybe I am looking of a easy solutions that doesn't exist and will have to just use the longer one. Thanks for your input, Mark. _ Mark McCulligh, Application Developer / Analyst Sykes Canada Corporation www.SykesCanada.com (888)225-6824 ex. 3262 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mark McCulligh' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Seairth Jacobs' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Passing variables between servers [snip] The session variables are need on both server for authorization needs. The two servers host two separate Intranet apps and I am trying to join the two together into one Intranet app. The variable will be used on both sides. The reason I don't what to use cookie is your users keep disabling them. They think a web site can use a cookie to break into their computer. They also disable JavaScript a lot too. [/snip] What about installing PHP on the IIS server and when time comes to pass back the information using the same method? Trying to think outside the box ... Jay *** * Texas PHP Developers Conf Spring 2003 * * T Bar M Resort Conference Center * * New Braunfels, Texas* * San Antonio Area PHP Developers Group * * Interested? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] Re: Passing variables between servers
http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP/ ~ Matthew -Original Message- From: Mark McCulligh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:14 PM To: Jay Blanchard Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables between servers I have thought about this also, but I need the variables in the ASP session and I don't have the time line to rewrite the ASP pages over in PHP. The current ASP app took a year to develop. I have thought about having PHP on both servers and having the PHP on the 2000 server just save the variables to a XML file or ini file, then have the ASP code read it in, but I thought there is probable some easy solution out there for passing information around. cURL looked like a solution but I can't find information on it using ASP. Maybe I am looking of a easy solutions that doesn't exist and will have to just use the longer one. Thanks for your input, Mark. _ Mark McCulligh, Application Developer / Analyst Sykes Canada Corporation www.SykesCanada.com (888)225-6824 ex. 3262 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mark McCulligh' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Seairth Jacobs' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 3:34 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: Passing variables between servers [snip] The session variables are need on both server for authorization needs. The two servers host two separate Intranet apps and I am trying to join the two together into one Intranet app. The variable will be used on both sides. The reason I don't what to use cookie is your users keep disabling them. They think a web site can use a cookie to break into their computer. They also disable JavaScript a lot too. [/snip] What about installing PHP on the IIS server and when time comes to pass back the information using the same method? Trying to think outside the box ... Jay *** * Texas PHP Developers Conf Spring 2003 * * T Bar M Resort Conference Center * * New Braunfels, Texas* * San Antonio Area PHP Developers Group * * Interested? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *** -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include()
Sure you can. Right out from the manual: If URL fopen wrappers are enabled in PHP (which they are in the default configuration), you can specify the file to be include()ed using an URL instead of a local pathname. See Remote files and fopen() for more information. best regards Stefan Rusterholz - Original Message - From: Tino Didriksen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include() include(http://www.someremote.server/calculate_drivers.php;); Very simple really: You cannot include remote files... --|-- Tino Didriksen http://ProjectJJ.dk/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include()
Hi Al. While we are on topic, what are the key differences between include() require() ? Cheers Scott - Original Message - From: Martin Wickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include() Imar De Vries wrote: Imar De Vries wrote: - Including remote files *is* possible. The php manual does not mention this does not work, and when I add the variable to the call (include /calculate_drivers?serie_id=3.php) the code is processed perfectly. The thing is, I can not pass the variable with the call, because it's value is determined by the form field. I could use a switch statement of course, but that adds a lot more text to the code. I just changed the code to (include .../calculate_drivers?serie_id=$serie_id.php) ... and this worked! Weird solution... Not really. The http://.../foo.php request returns html and not php. The foo.php file is parsed and executed by the remote server and returned to you as html. By adding serie_id=xxx you actually give the remote php-script the name and value of the variable. You should think of include/require as a way to *include* any file into your script. Instead of cutting and pasting code into your file, you use include. Thats the way it works in practice. No magic is going on here :-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include()
Since some time there has only one difference left (don't know at which version it changed): include causes a warning and require an error on fail. (very useful for debugging - require your error-handler and include everything else) best regards Stefan Rusterholz - Original Message - From: Scott Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include() Hi Al. While we are on topic, what are the key differences between include() require() ? Cheers Scott - Original Message - From: Martin Wickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:40 PM Subject: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include() Imar De Vries wrote: Imar De Vries wrote: - Including remote files *is* possible. The php manual does not mention this does not work, and when I add the variable to the call (include /calculate_drivers?serie_id=3.php) the code is processed perfectly. The thing is, I can not pass the variable with the call, because it's value is determined by the form field. I could use a switch statement of course, but that adds a lot more text to the code. I just changed the code to (include .../calculate_drivers?serie_id=$serie_id.php) ... and this worked! Weird solution... Not really. The http://.../foo.php request returns html and not php. The foo.php file is parsed and executed by the remote server and returned to you as html. By adding serie_id=xxx you actually give the remote php-script the name and value of the variable. You should think of include/require as a way to *include* any file into your script. Instead of cutting and pasting code into your file, you use include. Thats the way it works in practice. No magic is going on here :-) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include()
Scott Houseman wrote: Hi Al. While we are on topic, what are the key differences between include() require() ? Unlike include(), require() will always read in the target file, even if the line it's on never executes. If you want to conditionally include a file, use include(). The conditional statement won't affect the require(). However, if the line on which the require() occurs is not executed, neither will any of the code in the target file be executed. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Re: Passing variables with include()
Scott Houseman wrote: Hi Al. While we are on topic, what are the key differences between include() require() ? Unlike include(), require() will always read in the target file, even if the line it's on never executes. If you want to conditionally include a file, use include(). The conditional statement won't affect the require(). However, if the line on which the require() occurs is not executed, neither will any of the code in the target file be executed. I'm pretty sure that at last for PHP 4.06 or higher this is deprecated. I don't know why it is still in the manual. Please correct me if I'm wrong. best regards Stefan Rusterholz -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP] Re: passing variables between PHP and Perl
Just a quick addition... when a PHP script is run as a shell script from a Perl script (that make sense?) it cannot pass back exit variables to the Perl script... Would love to be proven wrong on this as I had to dust off Perl programming for a RADIUS interface some time ago. Dave http://php.net/exec/ You can get back whatever Perl spews out to 'stdout' using that. I'm integrating a telephony service into a clients site. I'm pretty handy with PHP but I don't have much knowledge of perl. I've setup up my client's site using PHP and the service provided me with a Perl script to make the telephone connection. I used virtual() in my PHP script to pass variables to the Perl script but now I need to deal with passing the results from the Perl back to PHP. Is there something like virtual() in Perl that I could use to relay the variables back to my script? Can I call up the Perl variables from my PHP script after virtual()? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
