Re: [PHP] scrolling data from db

2002-11-20 Thread Support @ Fourthrealm.com
Justin,
Creative thinking to a smart solution.  I will keep that in mind for future 
sites.

Peter

At 10:35 AM 11/21/2002 +1100, Justin French wrote:
> If you know that your client base will ever only use IE, then go for
> it.  Otherwise, you'll have to avoid the iframe.

That sounds a little harsh!

You can put a message in place of the iframe, for those who don't support
it.


Sorry, your browser does not support iframes, to view the content of this
frame, click here.


Or better still, you can actually PUT SOME CONTENT IN THERE.

I have an iframe which lists multiple tour dates for a band, sorted in date
order... if the iframe can be used, the user gets ALL upcomming gigs ina
scroller, otherwise they just get the next 3 (using approximately the same
amount of space), with a link to view all gigs.


iframes CAN work in many cases, if you think about it.


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Re: [PHP] scrolling data from db

2002-11-20 Thread Justin French
on 21/11/02 7:56 AM, Support @ Fourthrealm.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:

> Hi Eddie,
> iFrames do offer a really nice solution, but they are an IE only
> tag.  

they are part of the HTML spec... so, conforming browsers (NN6, NN7, Opera I
think, etc) all have iframe support.  The real problem is NN < 6 (of which
there are still plenty out there) and the lesser know and non-visual
browsers.

> Although I can't vouch for the latest Netscape, I know that the older
> versions simply ignore the  tag, and leave a blank spot in its
> place.
> 
> If you know that your client base will ever only use IE, then go for
> it.  Otherwise, you'll have to avoid the iframe.

That sounds a little harsh!

You can put a message in place of the iframe, for those who don't support
it.


Sorry, your browser does not support iframes, to view the content of this
frame, click here.


Or better still, you can actually PUT SOME CONTENT IN THERE.

I have an iframe which lists multiple tour dates for a band, sorted in date
order... if the iframe can be used, the user gets ALL upcomming gigs ina
scroller, otherwise they just get the next 3 (using approximately the same
amount of space), with a link to view all gigs.


iframes CAN work in many cases, if you think about it.


Justin


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Re: [PHP] scrolling data from db

2002-11-20 Thread Justin French
Hi,

on 21/11/02 3:00 AM, Edward Peloke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I have a large amount of data to present to the user.  Currently, I am just
> putting it in a table and displaying it on the page, if it is more than a
> page of course the page just scrolls.  Is there a way o, without using
> frames, to put all the data from the db in the middle of the page with a
> scroll bar on the side that just scrolls the data, I mean the header and
> footer of the php page do not move?  I am sure I will need javascript for
> this...right?

This is certainly not PHP... a combination of javascript + css + a whole lot
of testing on browsers + an understanding that it will break some browsers
might do it.  s will do it, s will too.


Justin French

http://Indent.com.au
Web Developent & 
Graphic Design



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RE: [PHP] scrolling data from db

2002-11-20 Thread Support @ Fourthrealm.com
Hi Eddie,
iFrames do offer a really nice solution, but they are an IE only 
tag.  Although I can't vouch for the latest Netscape, I know that the older 
versions simply ignore the  tag, and leave a blank spot in its 
place.

If you know that your client base will ever only use IE, then go for 
it.  Otherwise, you'll have to avoid the iframe.


Peter

At 03:17 PM 11/20/2002 -0500, Edward Peloke wrote:
Thanks Peter!

I will take a look.  As I am new to javascript, why would someone use
javascript when iframes are easier?  Will I be able to use the javascript on
more browsers?  Are the iframes limited?

Thanks,
Eddie

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Eddie,
I use the attached on a site of mine... works with JavaScript and 
tags.

There are 2 parts to the file - the javascript, and then the HTML code to
make it happen.  Tweak according to your needs.

Peter


At 11:00 AM 11/20/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I have a large amount of data to present to the user.  Currently, I am just
>putting it in a table and displaying it on the page, if it is more than a
>page of course the page just scrolls.  Is there a way o, without using
>frames, to put all the data from the db in the middle of the page with a
>scroll bar on the side that just scrolls the data, I mean the header and
>footer of the php page do not move?  I am sure I will need javascript for
>this...right?
>
>Thanks,
>Eddie
>
>
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Re: [PHP] scrolling data from db

2002-11-20 Thread @ Edwin
Hello,

"Edward Peloke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a large amount of data to present to the user.  Currently, I am
just
> putting it in a table and displaying it on the page, if it is more than a
> page of course the page just scrolls.  Is there a way o, without using
> frames, to put all the data from the db in the middle of the page with a
> scroll bar on the side that just scrolls the data, I mean the header and
> footer of the php page do not move?  I am sure I will need javascript for
> this...right?

Not really...

Of course, you can use javascript. (I think somebody just posted--er, kindly
posted--a sample code...)

You can also use CSS to make the header, etc. be "fixed" on different
location of your browser window. However, this approach works only on
browsers that support that css. (e.g. Mozilla-based browsers like N7, etc.
or Opera 6...)

How about another approach using "iframes"? (Personally, I don't like frames
or iframes...) It might work for you.

But then again, the best way IMHO, is to divide your table into different
sections or pages. Do you really need to keep them in one page?

Just some ideas...

- E

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Re: [PHP] scrolling data from db

2002-11-20 Thread Marek Kilimajer
There is position css2 property, you might be able to use it

Edward Peloke wrote:


I have a large amount of data to present to the user.  Currently, I am just
putting it in a table and displaying it on the page, if it is more than a
page of course the page just scrolls.  Is there a way o, without using
frames, to put all the data from the db in the middle of the page with a
scroll bar on the side that just scrolls the data, I mean the header and
footer of the php page do not move?  I am sure I will need javascript for
this...right?

Thanks,
Eddie


 



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Re: [PHP] scrolling data from db

2002-11-20 Thread Support @ Fourthrealm.com
Eddie,
I use the attached on a site of mine... works with JavaScript and  tags.

There are 2 parts to the file - the javascript, and then the HTML code to 
make it happen.  Tweak according to your needs.

Peter


At 11:00 AM 11/20/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I have a large amount of data to present to the user.  Currently, I am just
putting it in a table and displaying it on the page, if it is more than a
page of course the page just scrolls.  Is there a way o, without using
frames, to put all the data from the db in the middle of the page with a
scroll bar on the side that just scrolls the data, I mean the header and
footer of the php page do not move?  I am sure I will need javascript for
this...right?

Thanks,
Eddie


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