Re: [PHP] First PHP job

On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Robert Cummings wrote: > My horse now has a perforated stomach and colon. Can I send you the > veterinarian's bill? > Who knew they made carrot-flavored $needles? David

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On 11-01-11 01:15 PM, tedd wrote: At 4:12 PM -0200 1/11/11, Jo“o C’ndido de Souza Neto wrote: It must be a big joke!!! No really, his horse has serious problems. It's not good to find needles that way. I've nicknamed him Porcuphiney. Cheers, Rob. Ps. for those with limited english co

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At 4:12 PM -0200 1/11/11, Jo“o C’ndido de Souza Neto wrote: It must be a big joke!!! No really, his horse has serious problems. It's not good to find needles that way. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: h

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It must be a big joke!!! -- João Cândido de Souza Neto "Robert Cummings" escreveu na mensagem news:4d2c997d.3010...@interjinn.com... > On 11-01-11 12:15 PM, David Harkness wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay >> Blanchardwrote: >> >>> I am always looking for the $needle in the $ha

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On 11-01-11 12:15 PM, David Harkness wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay Blanchardwrote: I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack. Just sayin' I often find it faster to hire a bunch of horses to eat the $haystack, leaving the $needle behind and easy to find. My hor

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[snip] I often find it faster to hire a bunch of horses to eat the $haystack, leaving the $needle behind and easy to find. [/snip] Even cheaper to just burn the hay. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Jay Blanchard wrote: > I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack. > > Just sayin' > I often find it faster to hire a bunch of horses to eat the $haystack, leaving the $needle behind and easy to find. David

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 06:19:32AM -0600, Jay Blanchard wrote: > [snip] > > or the ($needle, $haystack) vs ($haystack, $needle)... i still get it > > screwed up... thankfully php.net/{function_name} is easy to use :P > > > > Oh hell yeah! I know there's a rule about it. I just don't know what it

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[snip] > or the ($needle, $haystack) vs ($haystack, $needle)... i still get it > screwed up... thankfully php.net/{function_name} is easy to use :P > Oh hell yeah! I know there's a rule about it. I just don't know what it is. [/snip] I am always looking for the $needle in the $haystack. Just s

Re: [PHP] First PHP job

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Steve Staples wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 16:21 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote: > > > > > Hello!, .. will try to keep this short! > > > I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a

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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 04:55:20PM -0500, Steve Staples wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 16:21 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote: > > > > > Hello!, .. will try to keep this short! > > > I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I ma

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On Mon, 2011-01-10 at 16:21 -0500, Paul M Foster wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote: > > > Hello!, .. will try to keep this short! > > I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years > > resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have

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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:02:51PM -0600, Donovan Brooke wrote: > Hello!, .. will try to keep this short! > I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years > resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first one (with a > completion date in a couple weeks!). > >

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At 12:02 PM -0600 1/10/11, Donovan Brooke wrote: Hello!, .. will try to keep this short! I've been a long time lurker but minimal poster. I made it a new years resolution to finally take on PHP jobs and now have my first one (with a completion date in a couple weeks!). I've been scripting in

Re: [PHP] First PHP program

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Kevin Waterson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Anwarulhaq wrote: > > > I am working on MS.net.But now i days i want to work on PHP. I dont know > the > > basis of PHP. Can any one guide me how i have to start with PHP and which > > editor i should use. Also

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This one time, at band camp, Anwarulhaq wrote: > I am working on MS.net.But now i days i want to work on PHP. I dont know the > basis of PHP. Can any one guide me how i have to start with PHP and which > editor i should use. Also the links of useful sites for help in PHP. I shall > be thankful.

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Anwarulhaq wrote: I am working on MS.net.But now i days i want to work on PHP. I dont know the basis of PHP. Can any one guide me how i have to start with PHP and which editor i should use. Also the links of useful sites for help in PHP. I shall be thankful. Since you've allready worked with .

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

On Jan 30, 2008 7:21 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg's my hero of the day - even if he has been banging the Ruby drum on > the PHP Stage half the night ;-) PHP is a great language. I don't plan to stop using it anytime soon. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- PHP Genera

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On Wed, January 30, 2008 9:42 pm, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 7:58 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I don't use SPL because it makes my head spin to read it, and I >> never >> ever try to do something as silly as iterate over a *LARGE* array in >> end-user pages. > > are th

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On Jan 31, 2008 9:47 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you mean you have a schema in a db with a bunch of tables? there is a > symfony task for that. symfony propel-build-schema > > or if you use propel alone: > > http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/wiki/Users/Documentation/1.3/HowTos/Existi

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2008. 01. 31, csütörtök keltezéssel 09.41-kor Nathan Nobbe ezt írta: > On Jan 31, 2008 3:24 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never write the xml for propel. we use DBDesigner (although > it is not > a well-written software, and there are problems with running

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im curious, greg, what the ruby guys do for code documentation. for php there is phpDocumentor or doxygen. i like them both. propel has support for the former so when i generate the code from a schema.xml file, the next thing i do is generate the phpDocumentor-based docs for my project which is ju

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On Jan 31, 2008 3:24 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never write the xml for propel. we use DBDesigner (although it is not > a well-written software, and there are problems with running it on > linux) and convert its xml files automatically to propel format. what's > more we have

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2008. 01. 30, szerda keltezéssel 13.33-kor Greg Donald ezt írta: > On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just pointing out that the rails guys dont have much wiggle room. > > surely, youre familiar w/ this post: > > http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reaso

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2008. 01. 30, szerda keltezéssel 13.01-kor Greg Donald ezt írta: > On Jan 30, 2008 12:15 PM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's opinionated software and is certainly not for everyone. > > > > ok it's not for everyone, certainly not for me. but what is it from your > > point of view

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On Jan 30, 2008 5:13 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gentoo is a damn fun distro I must admit.. but using it for anything > besides a development server seems very risky to me. You've got the > Gentoo creat0r running off to lick salt with the M$ weiners up in WA > right when Gentoo wa

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On Jan 30, 2008 10:58 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > besides being a nightmare, portage doesn't answer the question of rolling out > stuff > to multiple machines simultaneously. portage is one of the most elegant software distribution mechanisms ever created. and you dont have to ha

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Nathan Nobbe schreef: On Jan 30, 2008 8:21 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greg's my hero of the day - even if he has been banging the Ruby drum on the PHP Stage half the night ;-) greg does seem to know a crap-ton about ruby, and gentoo even ;) one thing I would offer as a soluti

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On Jan 30, 2008 8:21 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greg's my hero of the day - even if he has been banging the Ruby drum on > the PHP Stage half the night ;-) greg does seem to know a crap-ton about ruby, and gentoo even ;) > one thing I would offer as a solution to rolling out cod

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On Jan 30, 2008 7:58 PM, Richard Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't use SPL because it makes my head spin to read it, and I never > ever try to do something as silly as iterate over a *LARGE* array in > end-user pages. are there pages where you iterate over the same 'small' array more than

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Greg Donald schreef: On Jan 30, 2008 1:36 PM, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for your post. Competition is a good thing. I agree. PHP is the reason we're not all still working out of a cgi-bin. Have you looked at the PHPUnit code coverage reports? Of course it isn't built i

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On Wed, January 30, 2008 1:44 pm, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > when you said earlier that people arent interested in learning > php, this is something i immediately thought of. primarily > because spl debuted in php 5.0 and practically nobody is > using it (which could just be my skewed perception) when

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On Wed, January 30, 2008 1:33 pm, Greg Donald wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> just pointing out that the rails guys dont have much wiggle room. >> surely, youre familiar w/ this post: >> http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reasons_i_switched_b

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On Wed, January 30, 2008 10:43 am, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 11:38 AM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If list traffic is any sign, PHP is indeed slowing down from the >> "new >> peeps wanting to learn it" perspective: >> >> http://marc.info/?l=php-general&w=2 > > > interest

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On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > up arrow works just fine. history is gone if it crashes, but > if you exit gracefully, eg. with quit, then the history will be there. > maybe youre using debian or some other silly os; i run gentoo Gentoo is a damn fun distro I must admit.. b

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On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what id like to know, since you seem to know so much about the ruby on > rails framework, > is, what sort of debugging support is there? this is a weak spot in > php to be sure. ive > tried multiple clients w/ xdebug w/ marginal success at thi

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On Jan 30, 2008 4:08 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > php has an interactive shell; php -a. > > therein you have access to anything in the language your > > include path, or the local disc. > > You obviously have a very different u

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On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > php has an interactive shell; php -a. > therein you have access to anything in the language your > include path, or the local disc. You obviously have a very different understanding of the word "interactive". `php -a` seems pretty broken to me

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On Jan 30, 2008 3:34 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what id like to know, since you seem to know so much about the ruby on > > rails framework, > > is, what sort of debugging support is there? this is a weak spot in > > php to b

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On Jan 30, 2008 3:22 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An xhr request needs to be tested to see if your javascript fired when > expected and equally important what was sent back, and did what was > sent back land in the DOM where you expected it to. Rails provides > that and much more.

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On Jan 30, 2008 3:11 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think your perception is correct. But Perl is very powerful too, > and not so many people use it for new web development either.. with > list serve traffic being my reference. > > SPL's main drawback for me personally is carpal tu

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On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 2:55 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you only need to test data integrity then it seems good enough. I > > would argue that being able to test xhr requests is a basic > > requirement at this stage in web develo

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On 1/30/08, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 2:38 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you like Java then stick with PHP as that's where the syntax is > > clearly headed: > > > > http://www.php.net/~helly/php/ext/spl/ > > ive been studying spl a lot recently.

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On Jan 30, 2008 2:55 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you only need to test data integrity then it seems good enough. I > would argue that being able to test xhr requests is a basic > requirement at this stage in web development. how exactly do you test an xhr request? my suspicion

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On Jan 30, 2008 2:33 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just pointing out that the rails guys dont have much wiggle room. > > surely, youre familiar w/ this post: > > http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reason

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On Jan 30, 2008 1:36 PM, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your post. Competition is a good thing. I agree. PHP is the reason we're not all still working out of a cgi-bin. > Have you looked at the PHPUnit code coverage reports? Of course it > isn't built in like you say, whic

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On Jan 30, 2008 2:38 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you like Java then stick with PHP as that's where the syntax is > clearly headed: > > http://www.php.net/~helly/php/ext/spl/ ive been studying spl a lot recently. actually, last night i was benching it against foreach over stand

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On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > java is awesome, it just hasnt worked out for me career wise. If you like Java then stick with PHP as that's where the syntax is clearly headed: http://www.php.net/~helly/php/ext/spl/ -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- P

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On Jan 30, 2008 2:01 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 12:15 PM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's opinionated software and is certainly not for everyone. > > > > ok it's not for everyone, certainly not for me. but what is it from your > > point of view

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On Jan 30, 2008 12:40 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just pointing out that the rails guys dont have much wiggle room. > surely, youre familiar w/ this post: > http://www.oreillynet.com/ruby/blog/2007/09/7_reasons_i_switched_back_to_p_1.html One article from one developer means what

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On Jan 30, 2008 1:29 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ruby has 7 frameworks that I know of: Nitro, IOWA, Ramaze, Cerise, > Ruby on Rails, Merb and Camping. > http://www.nitroproject.org/ > http://enigo.com/projects/iowa/ > http://ramaze.net/ > http://cerise.rubyforge.org/ > http://www.r

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On Jan 30, 2008 12:15 PM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's opinionated software and is certainly not for everyone. > > ok it's not for everyone, certainly not for me. but what is it from your > point of view that makes it a 'more interesting advance'? 1) Test driven development is

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On Jan 30, 2008 11:56 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i love how the ruby crew has 1 framework, whereas php has scads. Ruby has 7 frameworks that I know of: Nitro, IOWA, Ramaze, Cerise, Ruby on Rails, Merb and Camping. http://www.nitroproject.org/ http://enigo.com/projects/iowa/ htt

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2008. 01. 30, szerda keltezéssel 12.03-kor Greg Donald ezt írta: > On Jan 30, 2008 11:52 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > oh the Ruby and Rails stuff here it comes again... I really don't see > > why is it a 'more interesting advance in web development technology'... > > and what's

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On Jan 30, 2008 11:52 AM, Zoltán Németh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oh the Ruby and Rails stuff here it comes again... I really don't see > why is it a 'more interesting advance in web development technology'... > and what's more important for me, I really don't like it ;) It's opinionated softwa

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On Jan 30, 2008 12:45 PM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 10:43 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would assume it's because there are much more interesting advances > > > in web development technology to focus on elsewhere. > > > > such as ? > > Ruby 1.9,

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2008. 01. 30, szerda keltezéssel 11.45-kor Greg Donald ezt írta: > On Jan 30, 2008 10:43 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would assume it's because there are much more interesting advances > > > in web development technology to focus on elsewhere. > > > > such as ? > > Ruby 1.9,

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On Jan 30, 2008 10:43 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would assume it's because there are much more interesting advances > > in web development technology to focus on elsewhere. > > such as ? Ruby 1.9, Ruby on Rails 2, Perl6/Parrot. Parrot is particularly interesting, especially

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On Jan 30, 2008 11:43 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 11:38 AM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If list traffic is any sign, PHP is indeed slowing down from the "new > > peeps wanting to learn it" perspective: > > > > http://marc.info/?l=php-general&w=2 >

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On Jan 30, 2008 11:13 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i dont think Registry::getInstance() is really that much overhead; In my initial tests I found that static methods accessing $GLOBALS directly was much faster than using an instance and working on it tucked away in a static variab

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On Jan 30, 2008 11:38 AM, Greg Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If list traffic is any sign, PHP is indeed slowing down from the "new > peeps wanting to learn it" perspective: > > http://marc.info/?l=php-general&w=2 interesting.. I would assume it's becau

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On Jan 30, 2008 10:13 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I love php patterns, but it seems to sort of be dead for years now. > > me too; ya, it is sort of dead, sad, but its still worth a look to people > getting > there feet wet w/ patterns, and occasionally as a point of reference fo

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On Jan 30, 2008 10:35 AM, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only gripe I have about the registry pattern is the lack of code > completion in PDT. ;) heh. does that still blowup when you try to open a file w/ an interface definition? > I love php patterns, but it seems to sort of be

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On Jan 30, 2008 9:57 AM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2008 8:40 AM, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008 3:29 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Still pimping singleton, huh? :) > > > > hell yeah :) > > i looked at the registry cl

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On Jan 30, 2008 8:40 AM, Eric Butera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 3:29 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still pimping singleton, huh? :) > hell yeah :) i looked at the registry classes you pointed out. you know what funny about the one in solar? they refer to the sam

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On Jan 29, 2008 3:29 PM, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 29, 2008 3:19 PM, nihilism machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok, trying to write my first php5 class. This is my first project > > using all OOP PHP5.2.5. > > > > I want to create a config class, which is extended by a

Re: [PHP] first php class take 2

On Jan 29, 2008 3:36 PM, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nihilism machine schreef: > > How does this look now? > > just as bad as before. you haven't even tried to run the code have you? > > > > > > > > > class dbconfig { > > public $connInfo = array(); > > public $connInfo[$hostn

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nihilism machine schreef: How does this look now? just as bad as before. you haven't even tried to run the code have you? $connInfo; } } ?> public __constructor(){ $this->$connInfo = new dbconfig(); $username = $hostname = $password = $

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nihilism machine schreef: Ok, trying to write my first php5 class. This is my first project using all OOP PHP5.2.5. I want to create a config class, which is extended by a connection class, which is extended by a database class. Here is my config class, how am I looking? dunno can't see you

Re: [PHP] first php 5 class

On Jan 29, 2008 3:19 PM, nihilism machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, trying to write my first php5 class. This is my first project > using all OOP PHP5.2.5. > > I want to create a config class, which is extended by a connection > class, which is extended by a database class. Here is my confi

Re: [PHP] First PHP

Hi Khalid El-Kary, On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 14:18:15 +, you wrote about "Re: [PHP] First PHP" something that looked like this: >hi, >how about the manual? Works for me to learn it ... it's the only thing I've read on PHP besides the WebMonkey guide to get the Apach

Re: [PHP] First PHP

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Khalid El-Kary) wrote: > http://www.php.net/manual/en/history.php#history.php First public announcement of PHP by Rasmus: -- CC -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.n

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Maybe if you're lucky, "the father of PHP" will reply to you. :) heikkikk wrote: Hello! I would like to know, Who made the first step to start programming PHP? So who is the father of PHP. Can anyone give me a link to proof it? -- =|---+---|= Heikki Kniivilä [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://h

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hi, how about the manual? http://www.php.net/manual/en/history.php#history.php :) Regards, khalid _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail -- PHP General Mai