Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Ashley Sheridan]

On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 14:43 -0500, Jim Giner wrote:

> "Robert Williams"  wrote in message 
> news:cb7a5dd7.828c6%rewilli...@thesba.com...
> On 3/5/12 11:58, "Jim Giner"  wrote:
> 
> 
> >"Marc Guay"  wrote in message
> >news:CAL0DAJq0y-iOMvt4Ko+D4Z_t+oo3PT9SYmR+9foa=9q9gsr...@mail.gmail.com...
> >> And if you change your input type to "date", because it's a date, does
> > that bring up the numeric keys as well?
> >
> >actually I have not seen anything that suggests that is a possible
> >option.
> >I am about to test something that I just received from Apple tho..
> 
> Yep, it's in there, as part of HTML 5. In iOS, support for it was added
> with Safari 5, so that's probably why the behavior of the 'number' type
> changed. There are others, too; see:
> 
>  s/reference/SafariHTMLRef/Articles/InputTypes.html>
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Bob
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> 
> 
> I now see that to be true.  In fact, it works really well on the iphone the 
> ipad
> mail or telephone and delete the e-mail and the attachments (if any).
> 
> 
> 


I just recall seeing a lot of buzz about the various input types and
support for them recently on the WhatWG mailing lists. I believe more
up-to-date versions of Firefox, Chrome and Opera will be validating
number fields for only numerical data too.

Apparently there is also an undocumented "feature" of iOS that triggers
the numerical input; putting the word 'zip' or 'phone' as part (or all)
of the input name, even if the type of the input is set to something
like 'text'

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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

"Robert Williams"  wrote in message 
news:cb7a5dd7.828c6%rewilli...@thesba.com...
On 3/5/12 11:58, "Jim Giner"  wrote:


>"Marc Guay"  wrote in message
>news:CAL0DAJq0y-iOMvt4Ko+D4Z_t+oo3PT9SYmR+9foa=9q9gsr...@mail.gmail.com...
>> And if you change your input type to "date", because it's a date, does
> that bring up the numeric keys as well?
>
>actually I have not seen anything that suggests that is a possible
>option.
>I am about to test something that I just received from Apple tho..

Yep, it's in there, as part of HTML 5. In iOS, support for it was added
with Safari 5, so that's probably why the behavior of the 'number' type
changed. There are others, too; see:





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Bob

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I now see that to be true.  In fact, it works really well on the iphone the 
ipad
mail or telephone and delete the e-mail and the attachments (if any).



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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Robert Williams]

On 3/5/12 11:58, "Jim Giner"  wrote:


>"Marc Guay"  wrote in message
>news:CAL0DAJq0y-iOMvt4Ko+D4Z_t+oo3PT9SYmR+9foa=9q9gsr...@mail.gmail.com...
>> And if you change your input type to "date", because it's a date, does
> that bring up the numeric keys as well?
>
>actually I have not seen anything that suggests that is a possible
>option.
>I am about to test something that I just received from Apple tho..

Yep, it's in there, as part of HTML 5. In iOS, support for it was added
with Safari 5, so that's probably why the behavior of the 'number' type
changed. There are others, too; see:





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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

"Marc Guay"  wrote in message 
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> And if you change your input type to "date", because it's a date, does
 that bring up the numeric keys as well?

actually I have not seen anything that suggests that is a possible option. 
I am about to test something that I just received from Apple tho..



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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Marc Guay]

And if you change your input type to "date", because it's a date, does
that bring up the numeric keys as well?

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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

"Stuart Dallas"  wrote in message 
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On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:12, Jim Giner wrote:
>>> Okay - here's the scoop - although this is not the forum for it.
>>>
>>> Ipads and Iphones respect an html input tag's type="number" attribute
>>> in
>>> order to trigger the device's different keyboard configurations.  This
>>> is a
>>> neat trick that I found on a couple of apple-related sites and has been
>>>
>>> working fine.  I just now removed that from my code that generates the
>>> html
>>> and Voila - problem gone.  Apparently Safari has been modified recently
>>> is
>>> my guess.
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> What format was your date in? It was my understanding that only numerical
>> characters with a preceeeding sign and decimal point was allowed? I would
>> expect a date to be in the form dd/mm/ or dd-mm- (allowing for
>> swapping months and days of course) but neither is a valid number.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ash
>> http://ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
> My entry is valid - mm/dd/.  Works great on teh ipad, not the iphone


I might be wrong, but I think Ash was actually asking why the hell a date 
field had that type attribute set to number. That's just messed up!!

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Cause it triggers the iphone to pop up a non-alpha keyboard which makes 
entering a data field easier (you don't have to explicitly switch to it with 
a keypress).  The default kyb is an all-alpha one.



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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Stuart Dallas]

On 5 Mar 2012, at 18:12, Jim Giner wrote:
>>> Okay - here's the scoop - although this is not the forum for it.
>>> 
>>> Ipads and Iphones respect an html input tag's type="number" attribute
>>> in
>>> order to trigger the device's different keyboard configurations.  This
>>> is a
>>> neat trick that I found on a couple of apple-related sites and has been
>>> 
>>> working fine.  I just now removed that from my code that generates the
>>> html
>>> and Voila - problem gone.  Apparently Safari has been modified recently
>>> is
>>> my guess.
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> What format was your date in? It was my understanding that only numerical 
>> characters with a preceeeding sign and decimal point was allowed? I would 
>> expect a date to be in the form dd/mm/ or dd-mm- (allowing for 
>> swapping months and days of course) but neither is a valid number.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ash
>> http://ashleysheridan.co.uk
> 
> My entry is valid - mm/dd/.  Works great on teh ipad, not the iphone 


I might be wrong, but I think Ash was actually asking why the hell a date field 
had that type attribute set to number. That's just messed up!!

-Stuart

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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

"Ashley Sheridan"  wrote in message 
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Jim Giner  wrote:

>
>""Jim Giner""  wrote in message
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>>
>> "Jay Blanchard"  wrote in message
>> news:4f54faf8.4030...@sigmaphinothing.org...
>>> [snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing
>>> something even worse! [/snip]
>>>
>>> Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?
>>>
>>> You can also add Firebug to your iPhone -
>>> http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/
>>
>> No - I didn't go that far, but I can.  More testing has revealed that
>
>> Safari running on my PC also doesn't like to accept the date I'm
>> inputting.  As soon as I tab off the field, it changes itself to
>whatever
>> my first two digits were.
>>
>
>Okay - here's the scoop - although this is not the forum for it.
>
>Ipads and Iphones respect an html input tag's type="number" attribute
>in
>order to trigger the device's different keyboard configurations.  This
>is a
>neat trick that I found on a couple of apple-related sites and has been
>
>working fine.  I just now removed that from my code that generates the
>html
>and Voila - problem gone.  Apparently Safari has been modified recently
>is
>my guess.
>
>
>
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What format was your date in? It was my understanding that only numerical 
characters with a preceeeding sign and decimal point was allowed? I would 
expect a date to be in the form dd/mm/ or dd-mm- (allowing for 
swapping months and days of course) but neither is a valid number.

Thanks,
Ash
http://ashleysheridan.co.uk

My entry is valid - mm/dd/.  Works great on teh ipad, not the iphone 



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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Ashley Sheridan]

Jim Giner  wrote:

>
>""Jim Giner""  wrote in message
>news:35.42.35539.06df4...@pb1.pair.com...
>>
>> "Jay Blanchard"  wrote in message
>> news:4f54faf8.4030...@sigmaphinothing.org...
>>> [snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing
>>> something even worse! [/snip]
>>>
>>> Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?
>>>
>>> You can also add Firebug to your iPhone -
>>> http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/
>>
>> No - I didn't go that far, but I can.  More testing has revealed that
>
>> Safari running on my PC also doesn't like to accept the date I'm
>> inputting.  As soon as I tab off the field, it changes itself to
>whatever
>> my first two digits were.
>>
>
>Okay - here's the scoop - although this is not the forum for it.
>
>Ipads and Iphones respect an html input tag's type="number" attribute
>in
>order to trigger the device's different keyboard configurations.  This
>is a
>neat trick that I found on a couple of apple-related sites and has been
>
>working fine.  I just now removed that from my code that generates the
>html
>and Voila - problem gone.  Apparently Safari has been modified recently
>is
>my guess.
>
>
>
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What format was your date in? It was my understanding that only numerical 
characters with a preceeeding sign and decimal point was allowed? I would 
expect a date to be in the form dd/mm/ or dd-mm- (allowing for swapping 
months and days of course) but neither is a valid number.

Thanks,
Ash
http://ashleysheridan.co.uk

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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

""Jim Giner""  wrote in message 
news:35.42.35539.06df4...@pb1.pair.com...
>
> "Jay Blanchard"  wrote in message 
> news:4f54faf8.4030...@sigmaphinothing.org...
>> [snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing 
>> something even worse! [/snip]
>>
>> Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?
>>
>> You can also add Firebug to your iPhone - 
>> http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/
>
> No - I didn't go that far, but I can.  More testing has revealed that 
> Safari running on my PC also doesn't like to accept the date I'm 
> inputting.  As soon as I tab off the field, it changes itself to whatever 
> my first two digits were.
>

Okay - here's the scoop - although this is not the forum for it.

Ipads and Iphones respect an html input tag's type="number" attribute in 
order to trigger the device's different keyboard configurations.  This is a 
neat trick that I found on a couple of apple-related sites and has been 
working fine.  I just now removed that from my code that generates the html 
and Voila - problem gone.  Apparently Safari has been modified recently is 
my guess. 



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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mari Masuda" 

To: "Jim Giner" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] iphone & php


On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Giner wrote:



"Jay Blanchard"  wrote in message
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[snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing
something even worse! [/snip]

Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?

You can also add Firebug to your iPhone -
http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/


No - I didn't go that far, but I can.  More testing has revealed that 
Safari

running on my PC also doesn't like to accept the date I'm inputting.  As
soon as I tab off the field, it changes itself to whatever my first two
digits were.


Do you have a maxlength set by accident?

No.  As I said - this appl is a year old and works fine.  Or did work.  See 
next post for solution.




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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Mari Masuda]

On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Giner wrote:

> 
> "Jay Blanchard"  wrote in message 
> news:4f54faf8.4030...@sigmaphinothing.org...
>> [snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing 
>> something even worse! [/snip]
>> 
>> Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?
>> 
>> You can also add Firebug to your iPhone - 
>> http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/
> 
> No - I didn't go that far, but I can.  More testing has revealed that Safari 
> running on my PC also doesn't like to accept the date I'm inputting.  As 
> soon as I tab off the field, it changes itself to whatever my first two 
> digits were. 

Do you have a maxlength set by accident?
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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Mike Mackintosh]

On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:52, "Jim Giner"  wrote:

> 
> "Jay Blanchard"  wrote in message 
> news:4f54faf8.4030...@sigmaphinothing.org...
>> [snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing 
>> something even worse! [/snip]
>> 
>> Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?
>> 
>> You can also add Firebug to your iPhone - 
>> http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/
> 
> No - I didn't go that far, but I can.  More testing has revealed that Safari 
> running on my PC also doesn't like to accept the date I'm inputting.  As 
> soon as I tab off the field, it changes itself to whatever my first two 
> digits were. 
> 
> 
> 
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Is your input an HTML 5 date time field?
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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

"Jay Blanchard"  wrote in message 
news:4f54faf8.4030...@sigmaphinothing.org...
> [snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing 
> something even worse! [/snip]
>
> Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?
>
> You can also add Firebug to your iPhone - 
> http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/

No - I didn't go that far, but I can.  More testing has revealed that Safari 
running on my PC also doesn't like to accept the date I'm inputting.  As 
soon as I tab off the field, it changes itself to whatever my first two 
digits were. 



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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jay Blanchard]

[snip]In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing 
something even worse! [/snip]


Have you also cleared the cache and the cookies?

You can also add Firebug to your iPhone - 
http://www.iphone-my.com/ipad/geting-firebug-iphone-ipad/


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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Mike Mackintosh]

On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:30, "Jim Giner"  wrote:
 
Download dolphin browser, it's a free safari replacement using webkit. Try you 
app in there and post back the results.

Mike Mackintosh
ZCE PHP5.3
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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Jim Giner]

"Stuart Dallas"  wrote in message 
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On 5 Mar 2012, at 17:16, Jim Giner wrote:

> An appl that has been working fine for a year now and fine up through last
> week, suddenly is not working on my iphone.  The only differences between
> using it on a pc, ipad or iphone are for font sizes and such (handled by 
> JS)
> so I'm puzzled as to what is going on.  I do the same exact thing on each 
> of
> these 3 devices and the iphone fails.  The specifics are : I'm entering a
> date into an input field and php is supposed to retrieve it and display a
> record that is retrieved using that input.  The iphone for some reason is
> not getting my input (passed via POST) correctly, yet it's the same script
> being run for each device.
>
> Trying not to paranoid, but does anyone think that Apple could have done
> something to my iphone in the last few days?

Of all the possible things that could have happened in order of likelihood, 
that's sandwiched between aliens having taken over your phone and the ghost 
of Steve Jobs up to mischief!

Have you debugged the code to see what your script is receiving from Safari? 
If not then I respectfully refer you to the advice you recently gave Jay.

-Stuart

Actually, I have been working on it for about 4 hours now.  Very simple 
script (like all of mine) that is working rock solid on 2 out of 3 boxes. 
In the last few mins I re-booted my phone and it is now doing something even 
worse!  As I fill in the date field using the iphone, the chars are showing 
up in the field onscreen.  But - once I close the keyboard (not submit)  - 
the input field reverts to ONLY one character!  This also happens if I hit 
the Next button on the keyboard to advance to the next input field.  And it 
is that character that my php script then receives when I do submit the 
form.  I have no code anywhere that addresses the input fields with JS so 
it's not something that I have 'forgotten' about - it is totally new and 
strange behavior.  And no, google has nothing to say about this (yet). 



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Re: [PHP] iphone & php

[Stuart Dallas]

On 5 Mar 2012, at 17:16, Jim Giner wrote:

> An appl that has been working fine for a year now and fine up through last 
> week, suddenly is not working on my iphone.  The only differences between 
> using it on a pc, ipad or iphone are for font sizes and such (handled by JS) 
> so I'm puzzled as to what is going on.  I do the same exact thing on each of 
> these 3 devices and the iphone fails.  The specifics are : I'm entering a 
> date into an input field and php is supposed to retrieve it and display a 
> record that is retrieved using that input.  The iphone for some reason is 
> not getting my input (passed via POST) correctly, yet it's the same script 
> being run for each device.
> 
> Trying not to paranoid, but does anyone think that Apple could have done 
> something to my iphone in the last few days? 

Of all the possible things that could have happened in order of likelihood, 
that's sandwiched between aliens having taken over your phone and the ghost of 
Steve Jobs up to mischief!

Have you debugged the code to see what your script is receiving from Safari? If 
not then I respectfully refer you to the advice you recently gave Jay.

-Stuart

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