Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2011-01-13 Thread Kornel Lesiński
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 00:26:35 -, Tjerk Meesters  
 wrote:



What I would like, therefore, is either:
a) a way to define my own namespace programmatically before parsing  
starts

b) a way to relax the parser so that namespace checking is not enforced,
like how tal ns is also not enforced


If you want to have behaviour of TAL namespaces, then  
PHPTAL_Dom_Defs::registerNamespace() would do that, but that probably  
requires too much irrelevant code just to fake a declaration.


You could wrap the file in  in  
PHPTAL_PreFilter::filter() (it's run before the parser starts).


I'm also considering making parser configurable, so you could just replace  
PHPTAL's standard parser and use your own syntax (XML5, HTML, HAML or  
whatever you like). I'm not decided on details yet: how to select which  
parser is used, especially in macros (file extension, doctype, some config  
vars?). How to load it lazily (probably PluginLoader class should be  
finished for that, or maybe PHPTAL should just have callback function  
before reparse?).



c) only do namespace checks on the output


That's a tough one, as it could potentially depend on runtime behavior and  
prefixes across files, so don't hold your breath for it.


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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2011-01-13 Thread Tjerk Meesters
On Jan 14, 2011 1:17 AM, "Kornel Lesiński"  wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:22:52 -, Tjerk Meesters <
tjerk.meest...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's the problem; it throw an error, saying that the myns namespace
>> is not defined ... is that expected?
>
>
> Yes (if I understood correctly what you're trying to do).
>
> PHPTAL checks correctness of namespace declarations from perspective of
source files, not the output (it probably should check output too, but
that's a harder problem).

I would say it has to only check on the full output, but I also realize that
might be tougher ;)

>
> So if a file, looked at in isolation (before macros are executed), doesn't
have required xmlns, that's an error according to XML.
>
>
> I have a mixed feelings about enforcing XML strictness. It's sometimes
annoying, OTOH it's a bit dishonest to call TAL an XML language when it
doesn't play by XML rules.

Essentially I'm using my own namespaces to do on-the-fly replacements, after
which the namespaced element is gone, much like how the tal: is gone after
parsing the template, i.e. it only has meaning before that.

What I would like, therefore, is either:
a) a way to define my own namespace programmatically before parsing starts
b) a way to relax the parser so that namespace checking is not enforced,
like how tal ns is also not enforced
c) only do namespace checks on the output

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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2011-01-13 Thread Kornel Lesiński
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:22:52 -, Tjerk Meesters  
 wrote:



Here's the problem; it throw an error, saying that the myns namespace
is not defined ... is that expected?


Yes (if I understood correctly what you're trying to do).

PHPTAL checks correctness of namespace declarations from perspective of  
source files, not the output (it probably should check output too, but  
that's a harder problem).


So if a file, looked at in isolation (before macros are executed), doesn't  
have required xmlns, that's an error according to XML.



I have a mixed feelings about enforcing XML strictness. It's sometimes  
annoying, OTOH it's a bit dishonest to call TAL an XML language when it  
doesn't play by XML rules.


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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2011-01-13 Thread Tjerk Meesters
Hi,

Just bumped into something similar.

I'm using a so-called skeleton.html (a big macro starting with 
and defining multiple slots for scripts, styles, content, popups,
etc.).

Let's say that I define xmlns:myns="http://example.org/myns"; in the
 of my skeleton.html and then one of my slots gets filled by a
tag 

Using a PreFilter I can then expand the  tag into ...
something fancy ;-)

Here's the problem; it throw an error, saying that the myns namespace
is not defined ... is that expected?


Best,
  Tjerk


2010/1/27 Kornel Lesiński :
> On 27-01-2010 at 08:39:36 Murat Çorlu  wrote:
>
>> Is there a simple way to define a custom namespace globally for all of our
>> templates like tal and metal namespaces?
>
> No, and I'm not planning to add it. TAL namespaces are already in violation
> of the XML spec.
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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2010-02-01 Thread Marco Pivetta
It's not that bad to impose some guidelines :) PHPTAL is that simple and
well-working because it discourages "backdoors" and "workarounds" that make
code dirty ;) That's what I, for example, liked about this library. It
forces people who write "dirt code" to be a bit cleaner... Many people who
worked with me told me it's a limit of PHPTAL, but I don't think so...
Kornel says he likes things "done the right way"... Maybe there's a quicker
way, but I prefer the right way before forgetting some stuff behind me :)
It's a good practice to put your namespaces in all your files as you do with
your C++/PHP5.3/Java files, don't you think so?

2010/1/30 romtek 

> 2010/1/27 Kornel Lesiński 
>
> On 27-01-2010 at 08:39:36 Murat Çorlu  wrote:
>>
>>  Is there a simple way to define a custom namespace globally for all of
>>> our templates like tal and metal namespaces?
>>>
>>
>> No, and I'm not planning to add it. TAL namespaces are already in
>> violation of the XML spec.
>>
>
> Not that I need this feature for the time being, but what's the downside of
> violating the specs? Nobody is going to fine or imprison you for it. PHPTAL
> is an autonomous library.
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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2010-01-30 Thread romtek
2010/1/27 Kornel Lesiński 

> On 27-01-2010 at 08:39:36 Murat Çorlu  wrote:
>
>  Is there a simple way to define a custom namespace globally for all of our
>> templates like tal and metal namespaces?
>>
>
> No, and I'm not planning to add it. TAL namespaces are already in violation
> of the XML spec.
>

Not that I need this feature for the time being, but what's the downside of
violating the specs? Nobody is going to fine or imprison you for it. PHPTAL
is an autonomous library.
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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2010-01-27 Thread Kornel Lesiński

On 27-01-2010 at 08:39:36 Murat Çorlu  wrote:

Is there a simple way to define a custom namespace globally for all of  
our templates like tal and metal namespaces?


No, and I'm not planning to add it. TAL namespaces are already in  
violation of the XML spec.


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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2010-01-27 Thread Murat Çorlu
Is there a simple way to define a custom namespace globally for all of our
templates like tal and metal namespaces?

romtek wrote:

2009/11/12 Kornel Lesiński 

> xmlns stops working when you close element.
>
>
> 
>
> does nothing.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
> 
>
> should work.



It worked. Thank you.


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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2009-11-12 Thread romtek
2009/11/12 Kornel Lesiński 

> xmlns stops working when you close element.
>
>
> 
>
> does nothing.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
> 
>
> should work.



It worked. Thank you.
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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2009-11-12 Thread Kornel Lesiński

On 12-11-2009 at 01:00:15 romtek  wrote:

I keep having a problem with this. I now need to have a "Facebook  
fanbox".

The code I need to insert contains . I've added
 in the beginning of the document and  
have

also tried defining it in the html element like this: , but I keep getting 'PHPTAL_ParserException' with
message 'There is no namespace declared for prefix of element < fb:fan >'
What I am doing wrong?


xmlns stops working when you close element.



does nothing.



  



should work.

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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2009-11-11 Thread romtek
2009/10/28 Kornel Lesiński 

> On 28.10.2009, at 17:28, romtek wrote:
>
>>
>> In earlier version I was able to add one or more characters to an
>> attribute of an HTML element to save it for potentional future use during
>> development. E.g., xyz, but this fails now with
>> PHPTAL 1.2.1 with the error of "There is no namespace declared for prefix of
>> attribute _tal:content of element < a >". In my opinion, PHPTAL shouldn't
>> throw an exception when it encounters an attribute that it doesn't
>> recognize. It should ignore it. A convinient ability is now gone.
>>
>
> From XML point of view that's a feature and XML _requires_ that parsers
> signal a fatal error when this happens.
>
> You could silence the error by adding:
>
> 
>
> at the beginning of the document (or on the  tag).
>
> You could also change tal:content to tal:comment.
>


I keep having a problem with this. I now need to have a "Facebook fanbox".
The code I need to insert contains . I've added
 in the beginning of the document and have
also tried defining it in the html element like this: , but I keep getting 'PHPTAL_ParserException' with
message 'There is no namespace declared for prefix of element < fb:fan >'
What I am doing wrong?

Roman
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Re: [PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2009-10-28 Thread Kornel Lesiński

On 28.10.2009, at 17:28, romtek wrote:


In earlier version I was able to add one or more characters to an  
attribute of an HTML element to save it for potentional future use  
during development. E.g., xyz, but this fails  
now with PHPTAL 1.2.1 with the error of "There is no namespace  
declared for prefix of attribute _tal:content of element < a >". In  
my opinion, PHPTAL shouldn't throw an exception when it encounters  
an attribute that it doesn't recognize. It should ignore it. A  
convinient ability is now gone.


From XML point of view that's a feature and XML _requires_ that  
parsers signal a fatal error when this happens.


You could silence the error by adding:



at the beginning of the document (or on the  tag).

You could also change tal:content to tal:comment.

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[PHPTAL] "There is no namespace declared" error in v. 1.2.1

2009-10-28 Thread romtek
Hi,

In earlier version I was able to add one or more characters to an attribute
of an HTML element to save it for potentional future use during development.
E.g., xyz, but this fails now with PHPTAL 1.2.1 with
the error of "There is no namespace declared for prefix of attribute
_tal:content of element < a >". In my opinion, PHPTAL shouldn't throw an
exception when it encounters an attribute that it doesn't recognize. It
should ignore it. A convinient ability is now gone.

Roman
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