Re: PicoLisp on Windows

[Arie van Wingerden]

Hi Joe,

ok. I'll try WSL then.
Will let know about my findings.
Maybe others can profit as well (Philip?)

Thx
/Arie

Op ma 16 apr. 2018 18:10 schreef Joe Bogner :

> Hi Arie,
>
> I would like to send a more detailed reply later. I'm the author of the
> flinux writeup. It's been a few years and things don't work as nicely as
> they did back then.
>
> I retested some the writeup today. I was unable to get the flinux static
> option working. I was able to get flinux dynamic working, but the archlinux
> distro is out of date and I wouldn't recommend going down that path any
> more.
>
> After the flinux experiment, I did do some work with a precusor to WSL,
> midipix[1], which seems to still work.
>
> The last time I tried WSL it had issues with database locking. I need to
> do some more experiments on WSL now that I have a Win-10 machine
>
> I have another option that I've used over the years, midipix, but it's out
> of date as well.
>
> Your best bet is probably to go with WSL or cygwin/msys for now.
>
> When I first put all this together, there was little interest. It sounds
> like there is more interest now so I'll see if I can dust it off and bring
> it up to date
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Philipp Geyer 
> wrote:
>
>> Based on the instructions on the site, it looks like the next steps are
>> to build pil on Linux, and then run the linux binary on Windows through
>> flinux.
>>
>> I have not tried pil in WSL yet (my only Windows text machine is Win7),
>> and I don't think that's a solution for my specific problem (to have a
>> simple environment for an end user with no technical experience) but I
>> have had some luck building pil with mingw/msys which provide a POSIX
>> compatibility layer on top of Windows. I have not (yet) managed to get
>> anything 100% working, but I'm optimistic. Currently if I build with
>> msys2, I can get an executable which I believe passed the tests, but
>> requires msys2.dll to be in the library path (which includes the
>> executable directory of course) but I believe that if you build with
>> mingw without msys, it builds against msvcrt directly, and links in the
>> compatibility layer. This is what I haven't managed yet.
>>
>> As I said though, I'm optimistic, and it's something I need for my
>> project.
>>
>> Philipp Geyer/Nistur
>>
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Re: PicoLisp on Windows

[Joe Bogner]

Hi Arie,

I would like to send a more detailed reply later. I'm the author of the
flinux writeup. It's been a few years and things don't work as nicely as
they did back then.

I retested some the writeup today. I was unable to get the flinux static
option working. I was able to get flinux dynamic working, but the archlinux
distro is out of date and I wouldn't recommend going down that path any
more.

After the flinux experiment, I did do some work with a precusor to WSL,
midipix[1], which seems to still work.

The last time I tried WSL it had issues with database locking. I need to do
some more experiments on WSL now that I have a Win-10 machine

I have another option that I've used over the years, midipix, but it's out
of date as well.

Your best bet is probably to go with WSL or cygwin/msys for now.

When I first put all this together, there was little interest. It sounds
like there is more interest now so I'll see if I can dust it off and bring
it up to date

Thanks,
Joe


On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Philipp Geyer  wrote:

> Based on the instructions on the site, it looks like the next steps are
> to build pil on Linux, and then run the linux binary on Windows through
> flinux.
>
> I have not tried pil in WSL yet (my only Windows text machine is Win7),
> and I don't think that's a solution for my specific problem (to have a
> simple environment for an end user with no technical experience) but I
> have had some luck building pil with mingw/msys which provide a POSIX
> compatibility layer on top of Windows. I have not (yet) managed to get
> anything 100% working, but I'm optimistic. Currently if I build with
> msys2, I can get an executable which I believe passed the tests, but
> requires msys2.dll to be in the library path (which includes the
> executable directory of course) but I believe that if you build with
> mingw without msys, it builds against msvcrt directly, and links in the
> compatibility layer. This is what I haven't managed yet.
>
> As I said though, I'm optimistic, and it's something I need for my
> project.
>
> Philipp Geyer/Nistur
>
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Re: PicoLisp on Windows

[Philipp Geyer]

Based on the instructions on the site, it looks like the next steps are
to build pil on Linux, and then run the linux binary on Windows through
flinux.

I have not tried pil in WSL yet (my only Windows text machine is Win7),
and I don't think that's a solution for my specific problem (to have a
simple environment for an end user with no technical experience) but I
have had some luck building pil with mingw/msys which provide a POSIX
compatibility layer on top of Windows. I have not (yet) managed to get
anything 100% working, but I'm optimistic. Currently if I build with
msys2, I can get an executable which I believe passed the tests, but
requires msys2.dll to be in the library path (which includes the
executable directory of course) but I believe that if you build with
mingw without msys, it builds against msvcrt directly, and links in the
compatibility layer. This is what I haven't managed yet.

As I said though, I'm optimistic, and it's something I need for my
project.

Philipp Geyer/Nistur

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PicoLisp on Windows

[Arie van Wingerden]

Hi all,

for quite a while I'd like to get into PicoLisp.
I dabbled in newLisp, but PicoLisp seems to offer quite a few advantages:
database, GUI (independent of Java).

Being on Windows appears to be not an advantage :(

 Scenario 1: Windows 10 Linux sub system

Q1:
Would it be possible to use the new Windows 10 Linux subsystem as described
here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10 to run
PicoLisp?

Q2:
If answer is YES, would everything work as in Linux, without exceptions?

 Scenario 1: run static PIL using FLinux

If the scenario above does not work, could you please help me to use
FLinux, because I do not fully grasp the instructions here:
http://www.picolisp.com/wiki/?flinuxpicolisp

Afaict the steps mentioned for teh STATIC option are:
1. Download http://software-lab.de/picoLisp.tgz and uncompress
2. Download flinux binary

Q3:
But what are the next steps to get PIL running??

TIA,
/Arie

Re: signify

[Henrik Sarvell]

Hi Mike,

I get the impression this is a way to check if a file has not been tampered
with as opposed to actually encrypting and decrypting a file or?

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 9:28 AM, Mike  wrote:

> hi all,
>
> https://bitbucket.org/mihailp/signify-pil/src
> signify variation, tests and comments are welcome.
>
> (mike)
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signify

[Mike]

hi all,

https://bitbucket.org/mihailp/signify-pil/src
signify variation, tests and comments are welcome.

(mike)

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[Philipp Geyer]

Hello Philipp Geyer  :-)
You are now subscribed


Greetings lispers

I have recently begun using picolisp for a couple of things, and have
been pestering people on IRC for help and solutions.

Despite having used emacs for about 10 years and written (and rewritten)
my configuration a number of times, I'm still fairly new to lisp in
general and spend most of my (at least professional) time in C++ and
C#. I am enjoying PicoLisp and will almost certainly continue using it
for future projects.

Philipp Geyer / Nistur

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PicoLisp tshirts!

[Philipp Geyer]

Now I've got my brief introduction out of the way, on to more important
things than who I am.

I was hoping that there may be PicoLisp tshirts for sale already, but it
seems that's not the case, so I've asked and been told I was allowed to
put some designs up myself if I wanted, and that other people may be
interested.

I've had a look at a few different sites which allow for this and (for
now) settled on teespring as it allowed the most flexibility, despite
being a little awkward with their sale/campaign stuff. So, I present to
you, my first PicoLisp design tshirt

https://teespring.com/picolisp

I shall certainly be ordering one myself. I believe the way that
teespring works is that they print batches every 3 days, so the
countdown is to the next batch and not a total design lifetime, but I am
not sure about this at this point.

I have made the prices as low as it will let me, which is practically at
cost (I think there may be $0.05 profit in a couple of them) but I am
not doing this to get money out of PicoLisp, it is just because I wanted
a tshirt, and I thought it'd be nice for other people to get some too if
possible.

Let me know what you think

Philipp Geyer/Nistur

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Re: PicoLisp tshirts!

[Alexander Burger]

Hi Philipp,

> you, my first PicoLisp design tshirt
> 
> https://teespring.com/picolisp

Wow! Very nice!!

> I shall certainly be ordering one myself. I believe the way that

Me too :) Thanks!

♪♫ Alex

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Re: PicoLisp tshirts!

[Manuel Cano]

Nice! I'm, going to get one. :)

Kind regards,
Manu

2018-04-16 11:49 GMT+02:00 Philipp Geyer :

> Now I've got my brief introduction out of the way, on to more important
> things than who I am.
>
> I was hoping that there may be PicoLisp tshirts for sale already, but it
> seems that's not the case, so I've asked and been told I was allowed to
> put some designs up myself if I wanted, and that other people may be
> interested.
>
> I've had a look at a few different sites which allow for this and (for
> now) settled on teespring as it allowed the most flexibility, despite
> being a little awkward with their sale/campaign stuff. So, I present to
> you, my first PicoLisp design tshirt
>
> https://teespring.com/picolisp
>
> I shall certainly be ordering one myself. I believe the way that
> teespring works is that they print batches every 3 days, so the
> countdown is to the next batch and not a total design lifetime, but I am
> not sure about this at this point.
>
> I have made the prices as low as it will let me, which is practically at
> cost (I think there may be $0.05 profit in a couple of them) but I am
> not doing this to get money out of PicoLisp, it is just because I wanted
> a tshirt, and I thought it'd be nice for other people to get some too if
> possible.
>
> Let me know what you think
>
> Philipp Geyer/Nistur
>
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Re: PicoLisp tshirts!

[andreas]

Thanks Philipp!

beneroth

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