Re: [KWin - Dock Question] - How to hide a window from PresentWindows effect?

2016-12-11 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 8:14:26 PM CET Michail Vourlakos wrote: > On 11/12/2016 11:23 πμ, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > On Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:11:14 AM CET Michail Vourlakos wrote: > >> On 09/12/2016 06:30 μμ, Martin Graesslin wrote: > >>> https://cgit.kde

Re: [KWin - Dock Question] - How to hide a window from PresentWindows effect?

2016-12-11 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:11:14 AM CET Michail Vourlakos wrote: > On 09/12/2016 06:30 μμ, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-framework.git/tree/src/plasmaquick/dialog.cpp > > > > the property in question is outputOnly. But it looks like that's on

Re: [KWin - Dock Question] - How to hide a window from PresentWindows effect?

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:53:00 PM CET you wrote: > > The problem here is clearly that your window is still accepting focus. If > > it doesn't accept focus KWin will skip it. So verify with xprop and > > xwininfo that the window is really excluding focus. > > Where do I look Martin? I am

Re: [KWin - Dock Question] - How to hide a window from PresentWindows effect?

2016-12-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, December 8, 2016 7:17:31 PM CET Michail Vourlakos wrote: > Hello everyone, > > in NowDock I have managed to subclass a QuickWindow in order to provide > masking and various visibility states for the dock. > > In all the visibility states I am setting for this subclassed window: > >

Re: Touchpad Gestures - Experimental

2016-11-24 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi Jens, I'm extremely sorry, there must have been a huge misunderstanding. Most of the gestures you came up with are not at all supported. We only get the following touchpad gestures reported: * multi-finger pinch/rotate gesture * multi-finger swipe gesture The supported gestures are

Stepping down as KGlobalAccel maintainer

2016-11-03 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi frameworks developers, I decided to step down as the maintainer of KGlobalAccel. I haven't done any work on KGlobalAccel this year and bug reports just linger. A big problem for me maintaining KGlobalAccel is that most work is needed in the X11 implementation. As I no longer use X11 and

Re: macro_bool_to_01 macro in plasma-workspace/ConfigureChecks.cmake

2016-10-28 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Friday, October 28, 2016 11:24:35 AM CEST René J.V. Bertin wrote: > Hi, > > Where exactly is plasma-workspace's build system supposed to find the > macro_bool_to_01 macro? Apparently it's been obsolete for quite some time > and it doesn't seem to be provided by any of the listed dependencies

Re: breakout: what Qt version will 5.9 require? 5.6 still or 5.7?

2016-10-25 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, October 20, 2016 7:07:29 AM CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Monday, October 17, 2016 6:06:41 PM UTC Jonathan Riddell wrote: > > no discussion on this on during the meeting, do we need 5.7, are > > distros happy with 5.7? > > We discussed it in the other thread, the conclusion is

Re: Breakout: * multiscreen behaviour: how should Plasma exactly behave in different scenarios?

2016-10-18 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, October 17, 2016 5:59:05 PM CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > biggest pain point from bugzilla is mostly still > multiscreen. I'm not sure we have a solid plan of what /should/ happen > in each situation. > panel gets added to screen 1 and 2, you disconnect screen > 2. How many

Re: Plasma 5.8 Errata

2016-09-13 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 12:43:21 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 13.09.2016 12:22, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Sorry, but I have seen enough bug reports set to critical and priority > > very > > high by the user. As long as users can modify that we will have st

Re: Plasma 5.8 Errata

2016-09-13 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 12:09:26 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 13.09.2016 07:52, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > On Monday, September 12, 2016 12:55:22 PM CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >> I've copied over the 5.7 Errata page for 5.8 > >> > >> Do

Re: Plasma 5.8 Errata

2016-09-12 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, September 12, 2016 12:55:22 PM CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > I've copied over the 5.7 Errata page for 5.8 > > Do we still have issues with Intel GPUs? > > Are there still freezes with Qt 5.6? > > Are the bugs marked critical still critical? I looked through them and none of them is

Re: On-screen keyboard on plasma

2016-09-12 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 1:41:36 AM CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > Hello, > Recently a convertible appeared on my hands. I was looking into seeing > how it works with Plasma. > Then I eventually wanted to type something. > > I'm not sure if having a keyboard is just unsupported or I'm missing >

Re: Animate plasma tooltip windows?

2016-09-12 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, September 12, 2016 2:21:16 AM CEST Michail Vourlakos wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > I am using in one of my plasmoids the following, > > PlasmaCore.Dialog{ > id: windowsPreviewDlg > type: PlasmaCore.Dialog.Tooltip > location: plasmoid.location > >

[RFC] Modifier only shortcuts on X11

2016-08-12 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi Plasma devs, I just created an RFC-phab request: https://phabricator.kde.org/D2425 This implements modifier-only global shortcuts on X11 reusing KWin's internal architecture written for Wayland. What I want to know is whether it's worth something to follow up. We know that this is a

Re: Plasma desktop window uses RGBA

2016-08-09 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:16:33 AM CEST Martin Graesslin wrote: > Hi all, > > I just noticed that Plasma's desktop window uses an RGBA format. This is not > only completely pointless as it's the bottom most window, it's also > destroying all optimizations in KWin. KWin a

Plasma desktop window uses RGBA

2016-08-09 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi all, I just noticed that Plasma's desktop window uses an RGBA format. This is not only completely pointless as it's the bottom most window, it's also destroying all optimizations in KWin. KWin always has to go into the blending code path, which means rendering from bottom to top instead of

Re: Failing unittests

2016-08-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday, August 6, 2016 8:12:06 PM CEST David Faure wrote: > Today is KF 5.25 tagging day, but the CI isn't green... > kwayland: testWaylandFullscreenShell fails Sorry about that. It's caused by a newer weston version [1] which got installed on Friday on build.kde.org. I just pushed a fix

Re: From Grub to Shutdown project update

2016-08-01 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, August 1, 2016 10:49:16 AM CEST Harald Sitter wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > > On Monday, July 25, 2016 12:24:56 PM CEST Jens Reuterberg wrote: > >> KSPLASH > >> Ksplash is removed in favour for tw

Re: From Grub to Shutdown project update

2016-08-01 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, July 25, 2016 12:24:56 PM CEST Jens Reuterberg wrote: > KSPLASH > Ksplash is removed in favour for two clear effects, one is the "fade to > desktop" already present in Kwin, the other is an effect where SDDM fades in > a very specific way. (the SDDM interface fades leaving only the

Re: Plasma 5.8 and openSUSE 42.2

2016-08-01 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:11:56 AM CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 03:56:21PM +0200, Antonio Larrosa wrote: > > This mean bringing forward some kde release dates and postponing some > > opensuse pre-releases to make everything fit tightly. > > > > 2016-09-01: openSUSE

Re: "Software not found" Runner

2016-07-31 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:17:32 PM CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Tuesday 26 July 2016 13:01:10 Aleix Pol wrote: > >> Hi, > >> Last week I put together this runner, thought it might be useful, so > >> if you type in krunner

Re: Is it possible for a plasmoid to overlap the panel?

2016-07-21 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:25:21 AM CEST Michail Vοurlakos wrote: > Στις Πέμπτη, 21 Ιουλίου 2016 7:31:20 Π.Μ. EEST Martin Graesslin έγραψε: > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:53:03 PM CEST Marco Martin wrote: > > > On Wednesday 20 July 2016 21:15:33 Michail Vοurlakos wr

New repository plasma-tests

2016-07-21 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi fellow plasma-developers, we have a new repository called plasma-tests. This holds the test orchestration from plasma-workspace/shell/tests. The tests got moved there as they were always timing out on plasma-workspace repository due to missing dependencies. In the new plasma-tests

Re: Is it possible for a plasmoid to overlap the panel?

2016-07-20 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, July 21, 2016 12:03:26 AM CEST Michail Vοurlakos wrote: > > > > it means you couldn't use always visible mode, and you depend from > > > > having > > > > composite) > > > > > > - "Always visible" in that case I dont think is a necessity... But > > > playing > > > around with these

Re: Is it possible for a plasmoid to overlap the panel?

2016-07-20 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 8:53:03 PM CEST Marco Martin wrote: > On Wednesday 20 July 2016 21:15:33 Michail Vοurlakos wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to implement a plasmoid task manager that behaves > > like the Mac or the Plank one.. > > the code can be found here:

Re: The situation of KWallet, and what to do about it?

2016-07-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Friday, July 15, 2016 10:22:32 AM CEST Elvis Angelaccio wrote: > 2016-07-14 1:11 GMT+02:00 Albert Astals Cid : > > El dijous, 7 de juliol de 2016, a les 18:43:57 CEST, Elvis Angelaccio va > > > > escriure: > >> Hi, > >> thanks for raising this topic! > >> > >> 2016-07-07 12:36

Re: [RFC] WindowMetadata framework fundamentals

2016-07-14 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:52:26 PM CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:41:54 PM CEST Martin Graesslin wrote: > > > > - currently open document > > > > > > Don't most applications expose that in their window title, anyway? >

Re: [RFC] WindowMetadata framework fundamentals

2016-07-14 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:10:25 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi sebas, > > On 13.07.2016 02:18, Sebastian Kügler wrote: > > During the Plasma sprint in March, we've been fleshing out plans to create > > a mechanisms for apps to be represented by the shell. > > > > The goals it to achieve

Re: versioned dependencies on breeze

2016-07-14 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:53:22 PM CEST Antonio Rojas wrote: > Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Well if KWin depends on Breeze you cannot parallel build KWin and Breeze. > > That should be obvious. > > It could be theoretically possible to build Kwin and Breeze 5.7.1 in >

Re: versioned dependencies on breeze

2016-07-13 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 6:39:25 PM CEST Antonio Rojas wrote: > In Plasma 5.7 both kwin and plasma-integration added strict versioned > dependencies on Breeze: > > find_package(Breeze ${PROJECT_VERSION} CONFIG) > > Can this please be changed to depend on the actual minimum version required? >

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

2016-07-12 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, July 11, 2016 10:31:14 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > So this is the input I've taken from this thread so far: > > File manager: Dolphin > Music player: VLC (I've taken form the thread that people feel Cantata's > benefits over VLC do not outweigh its downsides) As a matter of fact

Re: Long term support release for Plasma?

2016-07-11 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, July 11, 2016 9:55:20 PM CEST Nicolas Lécureuil wrote: > This is really a good news. > thank you. > > Maybe a nonsense question, but is there a KF5 release planned as LTS to > go with plasma 5.8 ? not at all a nonsense question. It's something we have to discuss with the frameworks

Re: The situation of KWallet, and what to do about it?

2016-07-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, July 7, 2016 12:36:26 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > Hi everyone, > I'm addressing both the Plasma team and kde-devel because this issue affects > Plasma as well as many applications, and Valentin as the current maintainer > of KWallet as well as KSecretService, a potential

Re: Customizing KDE

2016-07-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:19:40 PM CEST Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to setup some defaults for all users (at package level), > including some customizations: > > 1. Setup default theme > 2. Setup default wallpaper > 3. Set custom menu icon (application launcher?) >

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

2016-07-05 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016 3:51:45 PM CEST R.Harish Navnit wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > > On Monday, July 4, 2016 10:52:12 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > On 04.07.2016 18:37, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > &g

Re: Live image for Plasma 5.7 release

2016-07-05 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, June 27, 2016 2:12:32 PM CEST Martin Graesslin wrote: > Hi distributions, > > for the Plasma 5.7 release on July, 5th, I would like to have live images > for the release announcement. > > If your distribution is able to create a live image with the released tars &g

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

2016-07-05 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, July 4, 2016 10:52:12 PM CEST Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On 04.07.2016 18:37, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: > >> Hi everyone, > >> every now and then, distributions approach us asking which > >> applications they should ship by default with

Re: Which applications does the Plasma team recommend to use with Plasma?

2016-07-04 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, July 4, 2016 11:06:05 PM CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > Am 2016-07-04 14:43, schrieb Thomas Pfeiffer: > >> Hi everyone, > >> every now and then, distributions approach us asking which > >> applications they should

Re: Long term support release for Plasma?

2016-07-04 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 8:35:26 PM CEST Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: > On 2016-06-27 14:28, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Hi distributions, > > > > in Plasma we are considering to add a long term support release. For > > this idea > > we want to get some feedb

Re: porting the QtCurve kwin theme

2016-07-03 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 9:14:34 PM CEST you wrote: > On Saturday July 02 2016 20:13:49 René J.V. Bertin wrote: > >That at least sounds like something I could start looking at. I just hope > >there isn't too much in the code that will make QtCurve hard if not > >impossible to port without

Re: porting the QtCurve kwin theme

2016-07-02 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 3:17:49 PM CEST René J. V. Bertin wrote: > Hi, > > Rather than example minimal from-scratch KDecoration2 examples, is/are there > examples showing how to write a sort of minimal KDecoration2->legacy > wrapper/proxy (and then work from there modernising the code)? One

Re: Plasma 5.7 video

2016-07-02 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday, July 2, 2016 4:41:14 AM CEST Łukasz Sawicki wrote: > Hi, > > Here is a Plasma 5.7 video lets call it rc for now ;) Since we still > have a couple of days to final release feel free to post your > opinions, comments etc about it, so I can still improve some things > if there will be

Long term support release for Plasma?

2016-06-27 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi distributions, in Plasma we are considering to add a long term support release. For this idea we want to get some feedback from your side to know how we should set this up. Here is an example (I mean it!) for how this could look like: * 5.8 first LTS release based on Qt 5.6 (which is also an

Live image for Plasma 5.7 release

2016-06-27 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi distributions, for the Plasma 5.7 release on July, 5th, I would like to have live images for the release announcement. If your distribution is able to create a live image with the released tars before the release, we could include a link to it in the release announcement. This would allow

Re: KCM/colord-kde and it's KF5 release

2016-06-21 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, June 20, 2016 9:13:28 PM CEST Alessandro Longo wrote: > Hi, I hope this is the right ml to talk about KCMs. > I tried to install latest stable release (0.3) of colord-kde[1] to > manage icc color profiles, but the KCM isn't loaded in SystemSettings. I > can launch it with `kcmshell4

Re: porting the QtCurve kwin theme

2016-06-16 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:15:22 PM CEST René J.V. Bertin wrote: > Hi, > > It was pointed out to me by an OpenSuse maintainer that the QtCurve Qt5 > implementation doesn't contain a (functional) window theme. > > I'm not exactly the most likely candidate to address this as I don't > currently

How are wallpaper configuration views loaded?

2016-06-12 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi Plasma devs, as you might have seen I'm working on integrating Plasma Wallpaper plugins int screenlocker. I'm currently stuck on the configuration. I do not understand how the config.qml files in the packages are populated with the kcfg values. I see they have properties defined which

Re: Translation of click events to touch events in kwin.

2016-06-09 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 9:58:28 PM CEST Bhavisha Dhruve wrote: > I now properly understood the actual idea, and how I will have to use > FakeInput interface, to sum up there will be QtQuick component, which will > be used by Plasma mobile emulator to embed KWin inside emulator window. yep >

Re: Translation of click events to touch events in kwin.

2016-06-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:43:50 PM CEST Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:04:45 PM CEST Bhavisha Dhruve wrote: > > Hello, > > > > One part of my GSoC project (Plasma mobile emulator) is to translate click > > events into touch events, for th

Re: Translation of click events to touch events in kwin.

2016-06-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 2:04:45 PM CEST Bhavisha Dhruve wrote: > Hello, > > One part of my GSoC project (Plasma mobile emulator) is to translate click > events into touch events, for that I've already implemented touch event > support in FakeInput interface both kwayland and kwin side as

No team meeting today

2016-06-06 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi all, we decided to cancel this weeks Monday meeting as most are at a sprint or just don't have time today. Which would result in me being the only one with a webcam around which doesn't make sense for a video meeting. See you at next weeks meeting Cheers Martin signature.asc Description:

Re: translation threshold for Plasma 5

2016-06-02 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, June 2, 2016 8:56:42 PM CEST Burkhard Lück wrote: > Hi, > > I am updating the translation-howto and want to add the info for a > translation threshold for shipping with plasma 5. > > I found some mails on kde-i18n-...@kde.org but no definite percentage. > > Is there a

Re: Plasma depending on Qt 5.6.1 shortly

2016-05-23 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, May 23, 2016 1:47:23 PM CEST Luca Beltrame wrote: > In data lunedì 23 maggio 2016 13:40:34 CEST, Sebastian Kügler ha scritto: > > Of course no guarantees. > > Let me rephrase a bit as I guess it wasn't that clear in the beginning: did > the Qt Project say anything about the 5.6.1

Re: plasma-desktop on other environments (bis)

2016-05-23 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, May 23, 2016 10:35:05 AM CEST René J.V. Bertin wrote: > On Monday May 23 2016 07:59:14 Martin Graesslin wrote: > >I'm against any patches to plasma-desktop to make it compile on other > >platforms. There should not be any need to have anything from > >plasma-

Re: Problem running Plasma with Wayland in Arch Linux

2016-05-23 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, May 16, 2016 6:09:40 AM CEST Alfonso Hernandez wrote: > in the construction of Astian OS for desktop we have encountered an error > executing the command startplasmacompositor send the screenshot. you are trying to run startplasmacompositor from a nested session. This is not

Re: plasma-desktop on other environments (bis)

2016-05-22 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday, May 21, 2016 8:18:15 PM CEST René J.V. Bertin wrote: > Hi, > > We've talked about doing something about the various components in > plasma-desktop that would make sense outside of full-blown Plasma sessions. > > I've been keeping that in mind, and the other day my Linux install

Re: plasma-desktop on other environments (bis)

2016-05-22 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:03:21 PM CEST René J. V. Bertin wrote: > > The following are unneccessary because we don't provide/have to provide > > that feature outside a full Plasma session: * Autostart > > * Global shortcuts > > Through kglobalacceld? That is part of a framework that's

Re: status of kde/plasma kiosk framework in kf5

2016-05-19 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:50:36 PM CEST Mag. Weissel Thomas wrote: > first of all... thank you all so much for your engagement.. i can't say > it in other words than.. you rock! As a Plasma dev just following the work going in, I need to agree: they rock! I'm really impressed with which

Re: DWD HIG Draft

2016-05-18 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:21:20 PM CEST Ken Vermette wrote: > Update; > > After feedback we made some moderately heavy changes to teh DWD > requirements, namely removing/changing 'priority groups' in favour of > 'layouts'. > > Instead of the application firing off widgets with a "spray &

Re: Plasma 5.6.4

2016-05-16 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Sunday, May 15, 2016 11:14:42 AM CEST Nicolas Lécureuil wrote: > Le 2016-05-10 21:06, Jonathan Riddell a écrit : > > Plasma 5.6.4 is now released > > https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.6.4.php > > > > More translations and useful bug fixes, highlights: > > > > Make sure kcrash is

Re: KWin in docker container for Plasma Mobile Emulator

2016-05-11 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:27:58 PM CEST Bhavisha Dhruve wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org> > > wrote: > > Please enable all debug output for all kwin categories and used libraries > > (e.g. kwayland, kwindowsyste

Re: Review Request for KWayland for inclusion in frameworks

2016-05-03 Thread Martin Graesslin
ove of kwayland to frameworks, please proceed > (preferrably earlier than in two weeks, since that would be close to release > date). > > Cheers, > David. > > On Friday 15 April 2016 10:08:57 Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Hi frameworks-developers, > > > > based on

Re: Feedback on xdg-shell v5

2016-04-29 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:08:07 PM CEST Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > The biggest problem for me is the request set_window_geometry. I think I > > > mentioned it already before on the wayland list. Basically I have no > > > idea how to implement that in KWin. We have only one geometry for a > >

Re: Feedback on xdg-shell v5

2016-04-29 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:36:58 PM CEST Jonas Ådahl wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:36:14AM +0200, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Hi Wayland and Plasma, > > > > I finished the implementation of xdg-shell in KWayland [1] and KWin [2]. > > Overall it was more straigh

Feedback on xdg-shell v5

2016-04-28 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi Wayland and Plasma, I finished the implementation of xdg-shell in KWayland [1] and KWin [2]. Overall it was more straight forward than I would have expected. Especially the changes to KWin were surprisingly minor (with one huge exception). Now some questions/remarks: * What's a server

Review Request for KWayland for inclusion in frameworks

2016-04-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi frameworks-developers, based on the thread "KWayland as framework" [1] I want to start the review process for including KWayland into frameworks. To make it easier I'm giving an overview: Policies [2]: * Tier 1/integration - dependencies on Qt::Gui (5.4) and Wayland (1.7) * directory

RFC: A Wayland virtual framebuffer server for our tests

2016-04-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi Plasmates, this week I spent some thoughts on how we can do something like Xvfb with Wayland. The reasoning is simple: we need to run our test cases also on Wayland and not just on X11. Currently something like this doesn't really exist so we might need to write it. I have a few ideas how

Re: appstream in Plasma

2016-04-09 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Saturday, April 9, 2016 3:48:33 PM CEST Alexander Potashev wrote: > Martin, > > Please find my comments below. > > 2016-04-08 8:55 GMT+03:00 Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org>: > > On Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:28:17 PM CEST Alexander Potashev wrote: > >>

Re: Questions on Plasma i18n strings, offset=39

2016-04-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Friday, April 8, 2016 11:37:27 AM CEST Sebastian Kügler wrote: > On Friday, April 08, 2016 02:06:07 AM David Edmundson wrote: > > ​I'm taking tasks 50-59. > > > > if a few people grab another block of 10, we'll be done in no time. > > I'm on 60-69. > > Should these fixes go into the stable

Re: metadata.yaml for Plasma projects?

2016-04-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Friday, April 8, 2016 3:09:13 AM CEST Matthias Klumpp wrote: > 2016-04-07 13:55 GMT+02:00 Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org>: > > On Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:21:55 PM CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org

Re: appstream in Plasma

2016-04-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:28:17 PM CEST Alexander Potashev wrote: > Martin, > > Thanks for your reply. Please see my comments below. > > 2016-04-07 17:24 GMT+03:00 Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org>: > > On Thursday, April 7, 2016 4:37:14 PM CEST Alexander Pota

Re: appstream in Plasma

2016-04-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 4:37:14 PM CEST Alexander Potashev wrote: > 2016-04-07 16:14 GMT+03:00 Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org>: > > system settings is a workspace configuration tool. I don't see how that is > > useful to anyone not using Plasma > > Mart

Re: appstream in Plasma

2016-04-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 2:08:07 PM CEST Jonathan Riddell wrote: > Martin's thread on metadata got me wondering about if we should have > appstream files in Plasma. It would be nice to have plasma-desktop in > software installers for people who run another desktop and want to > install it.

Re: metadata.yaml for Plasma projects?

2016-04-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:21:55 PM CEST Aleix Pol wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > > Hi Plasmates, > > > > an idea for better documentation is to introduce some metadata similar > > like > > wha

Re: metadata.yaml for Plasma projects?

2016-04-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:01:22 PM CEST Marco Martin wrote: > On Thursday 07 April 2016 11:41:25 Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Hi Plasmates, > > > > an idea for better documentation is to introduce some metadata similar > > like > > what frameworks have. This c

metadata.yaml for Plasma projects?

2016-04-07 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi Plasmates, an idea for better documentation is to introduce some metadata similar like what frameworks have. This could be useful for potential devs who want to contribute, but also for distributions as in that way: * we can specify whether it's experimental, released, obsoleted, etc. * what

Re: RFC: Enabling users to report issues with Plasma widgets

2016-04-04 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, April 4, 2016 7:06:40 PM CEST Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > Hi, > > challenge: > 1. take your favourite Plasma widget > 2. find a bug or idea for an improvement with it > 3. report it to the maintainer of the widget > > 1. & 2. are easy. > But 3. is not easy at all. > > Question:

Re: Sunsetting khotkeys?

2016-03-31 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, March 31, 2016 5:15:26 PM CEST Ivan Čukić wrote: > > Input macro recorders/editors have fairly large userbase on competing > > systems (e.g. enthusiast gamers on Windows, who easily outnumber > > +1 > > When I read Martin's post, I expected 'kwin will do it', not 'we don't need >

Sunsetting khotkeys?

2016-03-29 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi, I want to propose to not release KHotKeys with Plasma 5.7 anymore. The reasons are: * it's unmaintained (e.g. Ben sent us a mail about failing build) * it never got properly ported to Qt5 (xcb port partially missing) * many features need to be moved to KWin in order to support it in Wayland

Re: Plasma Workspace - Improperly exporting targets

2016-03-29 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 10:13:02 AM CEST Ben Cooksley wrote: > Hi Plasma Devs, > > It would appear Plasma Workspace is improperly exporting it's targets, > leading to build failures. This particularly affects Apper, which is > unable to build on the CI system as a result. Please ensure when >

Re: Considering a Qt 5.6 dependency for plasma-workspace

2016-03-25 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 5:31:21 PM CET Aleix Pol wrote: > Hi, > I'd like to suggest a Qt 5.6 dependency for plasma-workspace master > (and maybe other repositories too). > > My personal interest is mostly because of the patch that drops KScreen > dependency in plasmashell [1], but I still

Re: Common purpose for the Plasma team, and VDG

2016-03-24 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:38:42 PM CET kainz.a wrote: > Yes different communication systems are one of the main problem. Different > tasks are the second problem. When I read the VDG forum threads or the > Telegram thread there was discussion about some stuff but less than 5% are > bugfixing

Re: Freeze kde-workspace repo for good

2016-03-24 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Friday, September 4, 2015 10:31:59 AM CEST Martin Klapetek wrote: > +1, although I don't think it would prevent people from creating > patches...or would RB refuse a patch against those blocked > branches? probably not, but it makes working with those easy: repo frozen, sorry cannot be

Re: I've got kwin_wayland + plasmashell (wayland) running in a container (bugs included)

2016-03-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 3:21:58 PM CET Sebastian Kügler wrote: > Hi Sebastian, > > On Monday, March 14, 2016 05:36:28 PM Sebastian Grüner wrote: > > hey all, > > > > I've been fiddling around wit lxc on a smartphone the other week, did > > some reading and thought I'd try out some ideas with

Re: I've got kwin_wayland + plasmashell (wayland) running in a container (bugs included)

2016-03-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi Sebastian, that's pretty cool! Thanks for sharing. Cheers Martin P.S.: Personally I'm a little bit shocked to see how easy it is to expose the GPU as that makes escaping the container pretty easy. On Monday, March 14, 2016 5:36:28 PM CET Sebastian Grüner wrote: > hey all, > > I've been

Re: Moving Breeze lookandfeel to breeze repository

2016-03-02 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 1:01:27 PM CET Aleix Pol wrote: > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 March 2016 02:06:52 Aleix Pol wrote: > >> It would also solve my little issue with xdg-app, although if you know > >> of another way to fix

Re: Moving Breeze lookandfeel to breeze repository

2016-03-01 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:06:52 AM CET Aleix Pol wrote: > Hi, > More specifically: > plasma-workspace/lookandfeel/ > > My Context: > I was looking into why applications are trying to load oxygen icons > instead of breeze on xdg-apps. The reason is that it was falling back > because breeze

Re: RFC: Put notifications in sidepanel like widget explorer

2016-02-22 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 22, 2016 9:05:06 PM CET Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 22 February 2016 18:39:02 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > > > changes, so when the default systray will be changed to the new > > > implementation in 5.7 it will look as near ar possible to the current > > > one, > > > with any

Re: plasma grub theme unified design

2016-02-18 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:53:48 PM CET kainz.a wrote: > 2016-02-18 14:29 GMT+01:00 Marco Martin : > > On Thursday 18 February 2016 14:20:18 kainz.a wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > the VDG is working on an unified design from the boot to the shut down. > > > therefore we

Re: repo freeze on Thursday

2016-02-15 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 15, 2016 11:46:11 AM CET Jonathan Riddell wrote: > The Plasma 5.6 repo freeze is on Thursday. We can't add new git > repositories to make tars after Thursday. Does anyone have any git > repositories that need added to this release which were not in 5.5? new repo:

Re: Solid/PowerManagement deprecation

2016-02-10 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 3:55:51 PM CET Aleix Pol wrote: > Hi, > I've been looking in the last days what applications and uses make our > software stick to KDELibs4Support. > > My impression is that the big missing thing is Solid/PowerManagement. > > Is anyone looking into the issue? I

Re: [RFC] Plasma mobile components -> Plasma controls

2016-02-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 8, 2016 1:21:01 PM CET Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > > It's almost time to make the plasma mobile components a framework/repository > by itself, and with that I'm wondering of "plasma mobile components" it's > even the proper name after all. > > Following the Qt naming

Re: [RFC] Plasma mobile components -> Plasma controls

2016-02-08 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Monday, February 8, 2016 4:07:35 PM CET Marco Martin wrote: > On Monday 08 February 2016, Martin Graesslin wrote: > > Plasma is the brand for the "Desktop Shell". Why use Plasma as the name > > for > > the components, then? Isn't that going to be confusing fo

Re: RFC: plasma logo as start menu icon and ksplash logo

2016-02-03 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 4:59:18 PM CET Marco Martin wrote: > Hi all, > This is just an idea: since our branding of the desktop offer as "Plasma" > seems to start to work, but still needs work, one of the first points that > come to mind speaking about branding is the logo. > > What I'm

Re: Evolving Appdash

2016-01-27 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 1:01:44 PM CET Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Thursday, December 17, 2015 12:52:35 PM CET Marco Martin wrote: > > On Wednesday 16 December 2015, Martin Klapetek wrote: > > > > Also the appdash is almost unusable without a blur effect (whic

Re: KDE Development VirtualBox

2016-01-26 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:09:29 PM CET James Augustus Zuccon wrote: > Hi guys, > > Had a look around, but couldn't find much about this. > > Is there a VirtualBox Image available for KDE Development specifically > (with most of the common libraries and their corresponding includes >

Re: Window thumbnail discussion

2016-01-24 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:06:48 PM CET Martin Gräßlin wrote: > I plan to write something down in the wiki next week, which should be a > better starting point for discussions then. Created a wiki page: https://community.kde.org/KWin/Window_Metadata Please feel free to extend/fix as needed

Proposal: integrity checks for packages and cryptographic signing

2016-01-04 Thread Martin Graesslin
Hi all, happy new year! I had a too long Christmas break and spent quite some thinking about how to improve the security situation on Plasma/Wayland and I think I found a solution to address one of the problems. tldr: we need to sign installed packages and verify the integrity when loading

Re: Draft split for qpt plugin from frameworkintegration

2015-12-18 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday, December 17, 2015 5:48:47 PM CET Martin Graesslin wrote: > On Thursday, December 17, 2015 4:32:48 PM CET Aleix Pol wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Martin Graesslin <mgraess...@kde.org> > > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > >

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