Re: Re: ScreenSaver and KDE Plasma 4.8?

2011-10-01 Thread Martin Gräßlin
. On the other hand most screensavers are low quality and hardly updated. What could help is to get some data from the distros how many users have screensavers actually installed. Cheers Martin On Donnerstag 29 September 2011 22:14:59 Martin Gräßlin wrote: Hi all, the work on the new screen

Re: ScreenSaver and KDE Plasma 4.8?

2011-10-01 Thread Martin Gräßlin
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - Am Thu, 29 Sep 2011 22:14:59 +0200 schrieb Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org: But when compositing is turned off, you currently get the plain old implementation including screen savers. And I don't want to change that code. Seconding Marco: Why

Re: Re: ScreenSaver and KDE Plasma 4.8?

2011-10-02 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 02 October 2011 09:26:34 Luca Beltrame wrote: In data domenica 02 ottobre 2011 02:47:49, Kevin Kofler ha scritto: without a custom Plasma init script enabling the folder view of ~/Desktop one way or the other (either as a widget as in 4.6 or in Fedora 16, or the KDE-3-style

Re: Re: ScreenSaver and KDE Plasma 4.8?

2011-10-02 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 02 October 2011 13:27:13 Luca Beltrame wrote: In data domenica 02 ottobre 2011 12:19:02, Martin Gräßlin ha scritto: Poll created: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?fft�102 I just blogged about this, so the poll gets more exposure. cool thanks - I plan to also blog about

Re: Re: ScreenSaver and KDE Plasma 4.8?

2011-10-02 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 02 October 2011 14:15:01 Luca Beltrame wrote: In data domenica 02 ottobre 2011 10:43:43, Ivan Čukić ha scritto: It needs to specify that no X Screensavers doesn't mean no screensavers krop on IRC raised an interesting question: is this drop of support related to just support, or

Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-02 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 01 October 2011 16:27:48 Dario Freddi wrote: Hello all, and sorry for cross-posting. Hopefully, this solution will please everyone and will make activities even more useful. Do you like it? More suggestions? Speak now or shut up forever! Hi all, I urge everyone to calm down about

Re: Re: The future of Power Management - together with Activities

2011-10-02 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 02 October 2011 21:09:00 Andras Mantia wrote: On Sunday, October 02, 2011 14:45:58 Dario Freddi wrote: That was one example. Another example brought up is e.g switching of strigi or nepomuk indexing when switching to a power saving profile. These two are something that usually

Re: Re: Re: ScreenSaver and KDE Plasma 4.8?

2011-10-03 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 03 October 2011 21:31:19 Kevin Kofler wrote: Martin Gräßlin wrote: What would you say if KDE Plasma would no longer support X Screensavers? * I would switch to another DE * I would complain * I would miss them but could live without them * Don't use screensavers, it doesn't

Re: removing dependencies from kactivitymanagerd

2011-10-04 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 04 October 2011 16:33:03 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: hi all... i experimented a bit this morning with cutting the fat from kactivitymanagerd. in particular i focussed on the following. KUniqueApplication: this lives in kdeui ... just to provide a way to have only one instance

Re: Re: removing dependencies from kactivitymanagerd

2011-10-04 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 04 October 2011 18:29:33 Ivan Cukic wrote: General question - do you want to create a fw5 branch or something like that? Aaron KUniqueApplication: this lives in kdeui ... just to provide a way to have only one instance of the app. ugh. in Frameworks there is libkdbus which

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 11 October 2011 12:54:23 todd rme wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Alex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote: Taking a look at some apps, I've noticed that most of them have an almost unused statusbar (or totally not used in some cases) resulting in a big empty grey space.

Re: Plasma QtComponents IRC meeting: summary

2011-10-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 13 October 2011 23:00:36 Marco Martin wrote: * API documentation: this will be badly needed: Giorgos volunteered to give an hand on it, problem is that doxygen can't understand QML: the first step is to have good comments anyways, a custom tool could be needed? could it be hooked

Re: Re: Left set of buttons in the title bar

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 19 October 2011 16:21:52 Sebastian Kügler wrote: On Tuesday, October 18, 2011 20:14:34 Kevin Krammer wrote: On Tuesday, 2011-10-18, Alex Fiestas wrote: By default we have 2 buttons in the left side of the titlebar, and I'm wondering if we really need them. On all

Re: Re: Left set of buttons in the title bar

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 19 October 2011 22:26:08 todd rme wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Alex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote: By default we have 2 buttons in the left side of the titlebar, and I'm wondering if we really need them. On all desktop: Our defaults set only one desktop so I

Re: Need some general feedback

2011-10-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 23 October 2011 11:14:33 Kevin Krammer wrote: Hi there, since it seems there are no Plasma developers available for team work [1] at the present time [2], I'd like to ask for some general advice. I would appreciate to know whether I failed to communicate the value of being able

Re: Re: Need some general feedback

2011-10-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 23 October 2011 17:30:56 Kevin Krammer wrote: I am somewhat tempted to create a quick and dirty widget on my own and see if somebody is offended by its uglyness enough to fix it ;) Does not sound bad to me. If you provide a nice dataengine and an example QML based view, I'm sure we

Re: Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 15:37:20 David Edmundson wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Alex Fiestas afies...@kde.org wrote: On Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:57:33 AM Aaron J. Seigo wrote: yes; as well as sometimes just saying that information is not worth it. the kmail example is a

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 20:41:23 David Edmundson wrote: KDE Usability is the mailing list I had in my mind when I wrote it. I didn't mean do distract from the focus of a thread I think is quite important. Interesting that two devs mentioned the usability mailing list. I hope this is an

Re: Re: Thoughts about statusbar

2011-10-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 14:14:03 Aurélien Gâteau wrote: And yes this is clearly Workspace and not application related. We as the workspace define how an application has to look like and how it has to behave. The statusbar is inside the application window, so I disagree this is a

Re: IconTasks taskmanager changes

2011-10-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 26.10.2011 13:30, schrieb Craig Drummond: For the last couple of months I've been working on an icon-only task bar called IconTasks. (I've just uploaded the latest, 0.8.1, to kde-look - http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Icon+Tasks?content=144808) This contains a forked version of

Re: 4.8 communication

2011-11-04 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 04 November 2011 19:01:27 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: hi :) as you may or may not have noticed, i just blogged about some of the upcoming changes in 4.8. i will do a follow up pice in a few days covering more of the changes and improvements. if there is something you would like to see

Re: Re: Introducing components, how to

2011-11-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 09 November 2011 20:05:00 Marco Martin wrote: On Wednesday 09 November 2011, Marco Martin wrote: When writing a widget, an application etc, just use import org.kde.plasma.components, the proper one is decided by the kdeclarativerc file, if it has [Components-platform]

Review Request: Screen Locker daemon

2011-11-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
screenlocker/unlocker/unlocker.h PRE-CREATION screenlocker/unlocker/unlocker.cpp PRE-CREATION Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103105/diff/diff Testing --- * Screen locks * Screen stays locked if unlocker crasher * unlocker gets restarted Thanks, Martin Gräßlin

Re: Review Request: Screen Locker daemon

2011-11-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103105/#review8095 --- On Nov. 10, 2011, 12:16 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http

Re: Re: bug killing

2011-11-21 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 21 November 2011 11:01:47 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Sunday, November 20, 2011 21:37:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: so .. 1700+ bugs. fun, huh? :) awesome; we are now down by ~100 reports already, thanks to efforts of just the last 24 hours. i'll arrange for a workshop + bug squash

Re: Re: refreshing the system tray icons

2011-12-01 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 01 December 2011 21:11:30 Marco Martin wrote: (even tough i'm still not sure if is a good idea to give icon for the applications like say, amarok) no it's not, but reality is that it looks very inconsistant and it does not look like we would get the applications out of the systray

Re: Re: bug killing

2011-12-03 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 03 December 2011 17:20:20 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Sunday, November 20, 2011 21:37:16 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: so .. 1700+ bugs. fun, huh? :) as an encouraging little update, thanks to everyone's combined efforts we are now down to ~1270 reports. that's ~500 fewer than when i sent

Review Request: [Patch 1/2] Fix Sliding Popups

2011-12-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
to kwin come in next patch for kde-workspace This addresses bug 287602. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287602 Diffs - plasma/windoweffects.cpp ce41176 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103366/diff/diff Testing --- Thanks, Martin Gräßlin

Review Request: [Patch 2/2] Fix Sliding Popups

2011-12-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
/diff/diff Testing --- yes, works for a panel on all possible corners (including panel between screens). Nevertheless please all try this patch. Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org

Re: Review Request: [Patch 2/2] Fix Sliding Popups

2011-12-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
possible corners (including panel between screens). Nevertheless please all try this patch. Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Review Request: [Patch 2/2] Fix Sliding Popups

2011-12-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
/slidingpopups.cpp 1065bfc Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103367/diff/diff Testing --- yes, works for a panel on all possible corners (including panel between screens). Nevertheless please all try this patch. Thanks, Martin Gräßlin

Review Request: Blur behind animated sliding popups

2011-12-10 Thread Martin Gräßlin
/diff Testing --- Screenshots --- Kickoff with blur during animation http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103375/s/358/ Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma

Review Request: Fix Library name of dragdropplugin

2011-12-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
is not matching what is specified in qmldir file. Diffs - plasma/declarativeimports/draganddrop/CMakeLists.txt 5450873 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103384/diff/diff Testing --- Yes Kickoff now finds the plugin. Thanks, Martin Gräßlin

Re: 4.8.0 Easy Jobs

2011-12-13 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 13.12.2011 09:51, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: http://bugs.kde.org/287027 - update favorites when ksycoca changes due to the rather strong changes I already have in the models I would appreciate if nobody touches that code. It has been broken forever, let's fix it with a bunch of other things

Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
the work on Kickoff for 4.9. It is easy to give this version a try, it installs alongside the existing Kickoff. I personally do not see any need for the back button any more. Kind Regards Martin Gräßlin New Kickoff Maintainer after branch merged into master [1] http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog

Re: Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-17 Thread Martin Gräßlin
. This means that we cannot make all users happy and we are not always able to add all the features users want. We have to care about more than just adding features. Kind Regards Martin Gräßlin [1] http://www.rfc1855.net/ [2] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id'4489 Thanks, Xavier Sythe On Fri, Dec 16

Re: Re: Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hey Rick, On Sunday 18 December 2011 09:29:36 Rick Stockton wrote: On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: Aaron, my words were unclear. If you and Martin are willing to put this into the 4.8.x Series, it CAN be done, but we _must_ use the name which already exists. 'Xbutton1' ==

Small QML related questions...

2011-12-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, three small QML/Plasma related questions that came up while working on Kickoff and no notmart on IRC to ping ;-). All are related to changing layout based on location. 1. How to get the enum values LeftEdge, TopEdge and so on. I get plasmoid.location but that's just a number. No

Re: Re: Small QML related questions...

2011-12-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 18 December 2011 22:07:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Sunday, December 18, 2011 18:43:06 Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= wrote: Hi all, three small QML/Plasma related questions that came up while working on Kickoff and no notmart on IRC to ping ;-). All are related to

Re: Small QML related questions...

2011-12-19 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 19.12.2011 11:02, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: On Monday, December 19, 2011 06:32:17 Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= wrote: On Sunday 18 December 2011 22:07:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Sunday, December 18, 2011 18:43:06 Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= wrote: Hi all, three

Re: Re: Small QML related questions...

2011-12-19 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 19 December 2011 11:46:41 Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= wrote: hmm... that's in the JS bindings and i confirmed it existed before i replied; where in your QML are you trying to use it? I'll ping you this evening when I'm back home and give you my current patch on top of

Re: Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 21 December 2011 00:51:45 Alexey Chernov wrote: On 20 дек 2011 11:20:23 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 00:33:20 4ernov wrote: unclear why you so against to approve such a work. i think it is perfectly fine if you wish to create a modified kickoff and

Re: 4.8 branch

2011-12-21 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 21.12.2011 11:20, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: hi :) some of you will have noticed that there is now a KDE/4.8 branch in the modules. i would like to request that all fixes happen in the KDE/4.8 branch and then: * if kde-workspace, cherry-pick into master * otherwise, merge origin/KDE/4.8

Re: 4.8 branch

2011-12-21 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Am 21.12.2011 12:12, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: On Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:45:16 Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= wrote: Am 21.12.2011 11:20, schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: hi :) some of you will have noticed that there is now a KDE/4.8 branch in the modules. i would like to request

Re: Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-21 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 21 December 2011 21:33:52 Martin Klapetek wrote: To play the devil's advocate here - as the main reason against bringing it back is mostly the increased code complexity, then if you add whole support for additional mouse buttons that actually trigger the back action, which is just

Re: Re: Kickoff-QML and classic launcher

2011-12-22 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 21 December 2011 18:25:51 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 20:51:32 Martin Graesslin wrote: My personal favorite is option 3. 3 is a good solution imho ... except that it will break people's installations who have kde-workspace but not kdeplasma-addons

Re: Re: Kickoff-QML and classic launcher

2011-12-22 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 22 December 2011 11:32:20 Nowardev-Team wrote: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collection+?content=14758 9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc very nice :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Review Request: Integrate Plasma Scripting Console with KWin scripting

2011-12-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- Screenshots --- Desktop Scripting console with KWin integration http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103518/s/379/ Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Review Request: Integrate Plasma Scripting Console with KWin scripting

2011-12-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- On Dec. 23, 2011, 2:24 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote: --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103518/ --- (Updated

Re: Re: Kickoff w/Breadcrumbs in QML

2011-12-23 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 23 December 2011 13:15:22 Xavier Sythe wrote: Just to confirm, does the QML Kickoff still have keyboard navigation? I think that it would be a good idea to not only add support for a mouse's back button, but also the standard backspace key on keyboards. This would enable full

Re: Review Request: Integrate Plasma Scripting Console with KWin scripting

2011-12-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
3c7289c plasma/desktop/shell/plasmaapp.cpp b630225 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103518/diff/diff Testing --- Screenshots --- Desktop Scripting console with KWin integration http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103518/s/379/ Thanks, Martin Gräßlin

Re: Re: Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-27 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 27 December 2011 20:16:48 Kevin Kofler wrote: Martin Gräßlin wrote: Which significant number of critical comments? How many users have commented here in the thread and reported bugs? 5? 10? 20? We are talking about a feature which will be used by millions of users. If we get

Re: Re: Re: Review Request: Change activity by rolling the mouse wheel over the showActivityManager widget.

2011-12-27 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 27 December 2011 21:49:24 Guillaume DE BURE wrote: I use the keyboard shortcut (meta + tab) quite often. However I remember once someone (maybe, marco ?) proposed an exposé like effect, with activities as rows, and desktop as columns. That could be extremely useful, especially for

Re: Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-28 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 27 December 2011 23:36:54 Matthew Dawson wrote: 1) The back button was a much larger button to hit. According to Fitt's Law[1], the smaller a target is to hit, the longer it takes. The breadcrumbs, being smaller, decreases the speed at which someone can hit the target. It

Re: flowout proposal

2011-12-28 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 28 December 2011 16:18:06 Mark wrote: Besides that this is pure eye candy, it does make the desktop just look more polished when the menu folds out like that and just seems to be nicely integrated in the panel. This idea should imho be extended to more elements: - System tray -

Re: Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2011-12-31 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 31 December 2011 09:30:25 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Wednesday, December 28, 2011 09:42:35 Martin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= Yes and that's why I moved it to the left in the new implementation. note that this then puts it in a different location to all the other headers in the

Re: OpenGL and Plasma::Wallpaper

2011-12-31 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 29 December 2011 11:21:36 Justin L. Boss wrote: Is there a way to use opengl in a Plasma::Wallpaper. Maybe by passing a opengl surface to QPainter then having Plasma::Wallpaper display it or does the Plasma::Wallpaper except opengl calls? You could do the same as the GLApplet [1]

XSLT to convert Doxygen to MediaWiki

2012-01-01 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, I faced the problem of how to get the scripting documentation generated and most important up to date without manually editing the Wiki pages. As I am lazy I wrote an XSL Template to convert Doxygen generated XML into MediaWiki syntax. The template processes: * read-only properties *

Re: Re: OpenGL and Plasma::Wallpaper

2012-01-01 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 31 December 2011 12:10:37 Shaun Reich wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 29 December 2011 11:21:36 Justin L. Boss wrote: Personally I am not a big fan of having animations which would require OpenGL in the background

Re: Re: Re: OpenGL and Plasma::Wallpaper

2012-01-01 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 01 January 2012 13:37:45 Shaun Reich wrote: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2011 12:10:37 Shaun Reich wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 29 December 2011 11

Re: Re: QML widget explorer

2012-01-01 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 01 January 2012 20:51:34 Marco Martin wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2011, Marco Martin wrote: Hi all, After almost a year of stopped development, I think the qml rewrite of the widget explorer and activity manager are almost ready for merge :D Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum,

Re: Review Request: Fix Add to desktop from Kickoff when you have several virtual desktops and you enable Different widgets for each desktop

2012-01-06 Thread Martin Gräßlin
on my system: that looks like KWindowSystem is wrong. The first desktop is 0. And further studies show that the bug might be in KWin. Will investigate further... - Martin Gräßlin On Jan. 6, 2012, 9:11 p.m., Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote

Re: Review Request: Fix Add to desktop from Kickoff when you have several virtual desktops and you enable Different widgets for each desktop

2012-01-06 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Jan. 6, 2012, 9:33 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote: I just consulted the documentation and checked the properties on my system: that looks like KWindowSystem is wrong. The first desktop is 0. And further studies show that the bug might be in KWin. Will investigate further... so just

Re: Review Request: Fix Add to desktop from Kickoff when you have several virtual desktops and you enable Different widgets for each desktop

2012-01-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Jan. 11, 2012, 1:29 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: tiny ws issue, but otherwise ok. and why containment starts from 0 - because that's where counting starts. that virtual desktops in KWindowSystem start at '1' is pretty silly, really. otherwise we end up with everything else being

Re: plasma::wallpaper and pure opengl?

2012-01-17 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Tuesday 17 January 2012 18:49:12 Shaun Reich wrote: i'm not knowledgeable in the OGL department, or the plasma::wallpaper area...but I thought it'd be kind of nice to tinker around with making absurdly useless but awesome wallpapers, and maybe learn a bit of OGL in the process. there was

Re: Re: [RFC] Remove Xinerama related options

2012-01-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 20 January 2012 11:53:22 Alex Fiestas wrote: The only reason I can think of is to create video walls, meaning multiple monitors used as if they were 1. for that you do not even need these options. You can resize your window as big as you want. Quite independent from the options.

Re: Re: [RFC] Remove Xinerama related options

2012-01-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 20 January 2012 13:09:18 Xavier IZARD wrote: Martin Gräßlin a écrit : Hi workspace developers, KWin provides the option to turn off multi screen aware window management. This results in windows being maximized over both screens or fullscreen windows being stretched over all

Re: Re: [RFC] Remove Xinerama related options

2012-01-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 20 January 2012 13:11:03 Alex Fiestas wrote: On Friday, January 20, 2012 11:32:13 AM Martin Gräßlin wrote: From the userinterface the only useful option is Show unmanaged windows on which should be kept. Well imho as a heavy multi* everything user I don't see why a user would

Re: prep'ing the QML screenlocker for a merge into master

2012-01-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 20 January 2012 15:02:39 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: hi all ... i've spent some time today looking at the screenlocker branch in kde- workspace. i was hoping it might be a straight-forward merge after adding one or two little features and possibly merging the screenlocker daemon with

Re: Re: [RFC] Remove Xinerama related options

2012-01-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 20 January 2012 14:13:17 XI wrote: so you would only need one of the options, the fullscreen one? And in fact you only want that for vlc, right? You don't want the option for let's say Firefox? So e.g. a KWin script taking care of setting the fullscreen video player to all

Re: Re: Re: Re: [RFC] Remove Xinerama related options

2012-01-20 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 20 January 2012 20:04:12 Hans Chen wrote: While we're talking about confusing options in System Settings, I've always wondered why there are two Xinerama options in Window Behavior (Focus tab) - Separate screen focus and Active screen follows mouse. In particular, how does the latter

Review Request: Drop Xinerama related options in KWin

2012-01-22 Thread Martin Gräßlin
://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103756/diff/diff Testing --- Fullscreen: works Maximize: works Movment: works Placement: works Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Re: prep'ing the QML screenlocker for a merge into master

2012-01-22 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Saturday 21 January 2012 15:32:10 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: it uses QGraphicsLayouts because we need to embed QWidgets. Unfortunately we do not get to the underlying system. If we don't want anymore the QWidgets we would have to rewrite the complete authentication system :-( yes, i know.

Re: Review Request: Drop Xinerama related options in KWin

2012-01-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
it. - Martin --- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/103756/#review10006 --- On Jan. 22, 2012, 10:21 a.m., Martin Gräßlin

Re: Review Request: Drop Xinerama related options in KWin

2012-01-25 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Re: Fwd: Forward porting policy

2012-01-26 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 26 January 2012 17:02:14 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: i suppose we could set up someone as the merge dude who does this once a week, though. you know that you just volunteered :-P signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[RFC] File ending for packaged KWin effects and where to put them

2012-02-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi workspace developers, my JavaScript bindings for KWin effects are nearly in place and that results in a few questions I wanted to discuss with the greater team. The scripted effects follow the Plasma Packages structure and I plan to have also normal KWin scripts use Plasma Package structure

Re: Re: [RFC] File ending for packaged KWin effects and where to put them

2012-02-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 09 February 2012 17:45:03 Weng Xuetian wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: Hi workspace developers, my JavaScript bindings for KWin effects are nearly in place and that results in a few questions I wanted to discuss with the greater

Re: Integrate AppMenu into Workspace 4.9

2012-02-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 09 February 2012 16:07:13 Alex Fiestas wrote: Hey there! It seems that people really likes AppMenu, we have fans of everything we have done with it so far: -oxygen-appmenu -plasmoid -runner So it seems clear to me that we should integrate this technology into Workspace 4.9,

Re: Re: Integrate AppMenu into Workspace 4.9

2012-02-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 09 February 2012 16:31:27 Alex Fiestas wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: If that refers to KWin decoration API: no problem as we are going to break deco API in 4.9 anyway :-) Oh didn't know that, because the QML decoration thing

Re: Re: Integrate AppMenu into Workspace 4.9

2012-02-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Thursday 09 February 2012 23:40:07 Weng Xuetian wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Martin Gräßlin mgraess...@kde.org wrote: On Thursday 09 February 2012 16:07:13 Alex Fiestas wrote: Hey there! It seems that people really likes AppMenu, we have fans of everything we have done

Re: Re: Re: Integrate AppMenu into Workspace 4.9

2012-02-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 10 February 2012 00:22:21 Weng Xuetian wrote: By the way, is it possible to make win deco use another menu right now? For example, can dolphin use its collapsed menu if windeco menu is used, or if it's not possible automatically, can dolphin manually do it? yes, that's what I meant

Review Request: Support KWin packages in plasmapkg

2012-02-17 Thread Martin Gräßlin
request. Diffs - plasma/tools/plasmapkg/main.cpp f699eec Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104000/diff/ Testing --- Tried to install a window switcher Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org

Re: Re: Re: [RFC] Remove Xinerama related options

2012-02-18 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Anyway, no need to say that if there is new feature to play fullscreen movies on several monitors, user should have the choice to enable or disable this feature (I don't think all xinerama users want to watch their movie across all their monitors ;-)) yes the script would have to be

Re: Regression: Keyboard shortcuts in Plasma Netbook

2012-03-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
/Contribute/Bugsquad for more information. Kind Regards Martin Gräßlin Am 07.03.2012 13:55, schrieb mogliii: Dear Plasma-developer, i want to point your attention to the following bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=295424 There are currently not keyboard shortcuts in Plasma

Re: Re: Workflow Idea for 4.10

2012-03-08 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 09 March 2012 07:52:37 Luca Beltrame wrote: In data venerdì 09 marzo 2012 00:27:51, Alex Fiestas ha scritto: - Move to a review based workflow before hard freeze (we need gerrit). Do you mean for the Workspace, or for the entirety of KDE? For both cases, what does sysadmin think?

March Iteration of Frameworks epic

2012-03-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, the March Iteration of splitting kdelibs [1] involves KWindowSystem. As I was appointed to be responsible for that I will concentrate my work on this epic starting from next week. Any help is more than appreciated. What I plan to achieve: * getting kwindowsystem as a Tier 1 library

Re: Re: March Iteration of Frameworks epic

2012-03-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Friday 09 March 2012 18:11:53 Kevin Ottens wrote: On Friday 09 March 2012 17:58:35 Martin Gräßlin wrote: A few things I will have to discuss with the KDE Frameworks maintainers. E.g. I think we should drop the Windows and MacOS X implementations of KWindowSystem as it is too close to our

RFC: Removing of decorations

2012-03-09 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, I was considering to clean up the window decorations in KWin. Currently we ship: * Oxygen (default) * Aurorae (theme engine) * b2 * laptop * Plastik At least for Plastik we know that it is currently broken with Compositing and nobody is going to fix that. All decorations except Oxygen

Re: Re: RFC: Removing of decorations

2012-03-11 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Sunday 11 March 2012 09:23:46 Luca Beltrame wrote: In data sabato 10 marzo 2012 07:51:37, Martin Gräßlin ha scritto: Deleting the old decorations will mean removing the only decorations which work well for thin clients or X forwarding. But I don't consider this an The question

Re: Re: RFC: Removing of decorations

2012-03-12 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 12 March 2012 10:54:52 Hugo Pereira Da Costa wrote: 1. I'm all for removing the unmaintained decoration. 2. I'm not sure about the rationale for moving oxygen's (deco) out of kwin tree. It is a decoration client, and therefore would best stay is in kwin/clients. (especially since

Re: Re: RFC: Removing of decorations

2012-03-14 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Wednesday 14 March 2012 13:22:40 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: On Sunday, March 11, 2012 11:01:11 Martin Gräßlin wrote: Do we have to include by default a visually outdated theme (Laptop) or an even broken theme (Plastik) just for thin clients? given that i don't want to have to answer all

Review Request: Drop Decorations B2 and Plastik

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
/plastik/plastikbutton.cpp db29d76 kwin/clients/plastik/plastikclient.h 4c5b0d9 kwin/clients/plastik/plastikclient.cpp 58f8324 Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104281/diff/ Testing --- it compiles Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma

Review Request: Rename window deocration Laptop to Minimal

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
/ Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Review Request: [RFC]: Rename Configure Window Behavior to Configure Window Management

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104284/diff/ Testing --- Thanks, Martin Gräßlin ___ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel

Re: Review Request: [RFC]: Rename Configure Window Behavior to Configure Window Management

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104284/#review11430 --- On March 15, 2012, 11:19 a.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote

Re: Review Request: Rename window deocration Laptop to Minimal

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
--- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104282/#review11428 --- On March 15, 2012, 7:28 a.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote

Re: Review Request: Rename window deocration Laptop to Minimal

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
. Thomas Lübking wrote: I'm the ultimate typoking, even beyond nuno - Lightweight Martin Gräßlin wrote: Lightweight had already been discarded as possible name by Aaron (only replied to plasma-devel) as it places Oxygen in a bad light (opposite of lightweight is heavyweight, right

Help us finding the new name for Laptop window decoration

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi all, in order to find a better name for the window decoration Laptop I created a doodle with possible names: http://www.doodle.com/e9se6zuz8ufepxke More info: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104282/ Please vote for your preferred name and don't make the fun out of it that everybody

Re: Breadcrumbs in Kickoff

2012-03-16 Thread Martin Gräßlin
Hi Mihai, there has already been a lengthy discussion about breadcrumbs in Kickoff back in December [1]. I don't think anyone is interested in having yet another discussion about that topic. Thanks. Martin Gräßlin [1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2011-December/018184.html

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