Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread Dale Snell 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 18:54:14 -0700, in message
20170726185414.25f65782@Devil-Bonobo, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> OK, the pointer trick didn't work, but I fudged it by taking a
> screenshot to the clipboard, opening it in the GIMP, and taking note
> of the size of the resulting graphic, which was 1120 x 1060. I added
> this to the launcher for Evince, but afterward it wouldn't launch.
> From the command line I got:
> 
> evince -geometry 1120x1060+150+10
> Cannot parse arguments: Unknown option -geometry
> 
> So that leaves me wondering what the -geometry option belongs to. 

The -geometry option is part of X.  (See the man page for X(7) for
an explanation of the geometry option.)  Some programs accept that
option and pass it through to X.  Emacs, for example, has a "-g"
or "--geometry=" option, which it passes to X.

In looking at the man page for Evince, I didn't see any mention of
a geometry option.  You can open the viewer normally, or in (-f)
full-screen mode.  For what it's worth, I couldn't find a geometry
option for my favorite viewer, qpdfview, either.  However, that
one at least has the grace to remember its size, position, and
some other state between sessions.

--Dale

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Re: [PLUG] Add words to LibreOffice spell check dictionary

2017-07-26 Thread King Beowulf 
On 07/25/2017 02:11 PM, Dick Steffens wrote:
> On 07/25/2017 02:03 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Dick Steffens wrote:
>>
>>> There used to be an menu entry to add words to my user defined spell check
>>> dictionary. IIRC, it used to be under tools. I don't find it there in
>>> version 5.1.6.2 in Ubuntu MATE 16.04. Does anyone know where it went?
>> Dick,
>>
>> Does this help?
>> 
>>
> 
> No. That lets me get at the dictionary file and mess with it off line, 
> so to speak.
> 
> However I did finally find what I wanted. They moved it to Tools>Auto 
> Correct>Auto Correct Options ...
> 
> When will developers learn the basic rule of DFWAB? (Don't Fix What 
> Ain't Broke)
> 
> Thanks for the hint. It made me take another look. It helped that I 
> finally recalled that it was Auto Correct that I was looking for.
> 

Tools>Auto Correct>Auto Correct Options ...

Will take you to a tab where you can add words to the Autocorrect: it
will change words by guessing which one you meant to type. I hate that.
You may not.

To actually edit dictionaries, go to

Tools > Options > Language Settings > Writing Aids

You can now either edit the predefined "User-defined dictionaries" or
create a new one.  Any misspelling with the red squiggly underline will
have correction options in the right-click menu from these dictionaries.
If a "misspelled" word is correct, the right click menu will display and
"add to" and a "Spelling and Grammar" entry to use to add of refine.

Also, I recommend upgrading to LibreOffice 5.3.4.2 as there are lots of
bug fixes, improvements and a number of Heap-buffer-overflow security fixes.

-Ed
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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread King Beowulf 
On 07/26/2017 08:11 AM, Dick Steffens wrote:
> I have an annoyance with Libre Office. I have a spreadsheet that I set 
> to take up a certain amount of screen space. If I have nothing else open 
> in LibreOffice, and I close that spreadsheet, but not LibreOffice, I get 
> what I'm sure they intend to be a helpful preview kind of window with a 
> column of commands on the left and a collection of recently used 
> documents on the right. My annoyance is with how the window size does 
> not revert to the size I had set for the spreadsheet when I reopen it.
> 
> My problem is that I don't know what to call what I'm seeing so I can 
> search and see if there's a way to change it. Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

Dick,

The LibreOffice window (start screen) that shows recent files, and
templates, and has a list if "Create" options, will open a document in
what ever size THAT windows is in currently. If you resize that window,
exit and re-open, it will open in the new size.  Then any document you
open will be in that size.  Each module works the same way.

As of my LibreOffice 5.3.4.2, anyway.

As far as I know, libreoffice does not have a command line option to set
window size/geoemtry.  In a terminal, type 'soffice -h' to see a list of
command line options.

Now, once you set the size for each module (calc, writer etc), each will
have its own default size - as long as you NEVER open the start screen.
Once you open a module via the start screen that module will reset to
the start screen size.

The interwebs are full of people complaining about this in both LO and
OpenOffice for years.

Some WM/DE allow you to set application geometry (KDE?) but since I use
Xfce I wouldn't know.

-Ed
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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread John Jason Jordan 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:28:26 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>For example, emacs which opens in an urxvt terminal has this
> command line:
>/usr/bin/emacs -fg wheat -bg black -geometry 115x45+150+10
>
>The geometry specifies a width of 115 pixels and a height of 45 pixels
>and places the upper left corner of the window at 150, 10 pixels (x,
>y).
>
>Another example: LyX which opens in its own window has this command
>line: >/usr/bin/lyx -geometry 1300x800+40+20

OK, the pointer trick didn't work, but I fudged it by taking a
screenshot to the clipboard, opening it in the GIMP, and taking note of
the size of the resulting graphic, which was 1120 x 1060. I added this
to the launcher for Evince, but afterward it wouldn't launch. From the
command line I got:

evince -geometry 1120x1060+150+10
Cannot parse arguments: Unknown option -geometry

So that leaves me wondering what the -geometry option belongs to. 
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Re: [PLUG] Question about header on sent e-mail message

2017-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Paul Heinlein wrote:

> Do you have an smtp-server setting in your .pinerc (or in a role)? Or is
> it blank?

Paul,

   In ~/.pinerc I see:

# Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail.
user-domain=appl-ecosys.com

# List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail.
smtp-server=salmo.appl-ecosys.com

> BTW: I can't see that 'on behalf of' header in any messages I've received
> from you.

   I suspect that's produced by whatever M$ MUA is being used by the
responder. I've not seen it in any other messages.

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Question about header on sent e-mail message

2017-07-26 Thread Paul Heinlein 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, bro...@netgate.net wrote:
>
>> You can set the user domain to be whatever you want using the
>> config/settings in alpine.
>
> Brooks,
>
>   It's been set to 'appl-ecosys.com' for the past 20 years (first in pine,
> now in alpine.)

Rich,

Do you have an smtp-server setting in your .pinerc (or in a role)? Or 
is it blank?

If blank, then the message is submitted to your local MTA (Postfix, in 
your case) and subject to its rules.

BTW: I can't see that 'on behalf of' header in any messages I've 
received from you.

-- 
Paul Heinlein <> heinl...@madboa.com <> https://www.madboa.com/
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[PLUG] SeaGL CFP

2017-07-26 Thread Michael Dexter 

Hello,

The SeaGL conference takes place in Seattle on October 6th and 7th and I 
encourage you to attend and talk. The CFP is open and if you haven't 
spoken at a "real" conference, this is a easy one to get started with:

http://seagl.org/news/2017/06/19/CFP-open.html

All the best,

Michael Dexter
PLUG Volunteer
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Re: [PLUG] Question about header on sent e-mail message

2017-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, bro...@netgate.net wrote:

> You can set the user domain to be whatever you want using the
> config/settings in alpine.

Brooks,

   It's been set to 'appl-ecosys.com' for the past 20 years (first in pine,
now in alpine.)

Thanks,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Question about header on sent e-mail message

2017-07-26 Thread brooks 

You can set the user domain to be whatever you want using the 
config/settings in alpine.

On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Rich Shepard wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Pete Lancashire wrote:
>
>> what are you using to send mail with ?
>
> Pete,
>
>   Alpine-2.11
>
> Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Question about header on sent e-mail message

2017-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Pete Lancashire wrote:

> what are you using to send mail with ?

Pete,

   Alpine-2.11

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Question about header on sent e-mail message

2017-07-26 Thread Pete Lancashire 
what are you using to send mail with ?

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Rich Shepard 
wrote:

>When I receive a response to an e-mail message I sent (top-posted,
> naturally), and the sender includes the header of my message, it often
> includes this line:
>
> From: rshepard@localhost [mailto:rshepard@localhost] On Behalf Of Rich
> Shepard
>
>My outbound mail is relayed through SpiritOne (nee Aracnet).
>
>I would like to understand why the domain is 'localhost' rather than the
> actual domain, and how to fix it so outgoing messages have the correct
> domain name.
>
>All thoughts welcome.
>
> Rich
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[PLUG] Question about header on sent e-mail message

2017-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard 
   When I receive a response to an e-mail message I sent (top-posted,
naturally), and the sender includes the header of my message, it often
includes this line:

From: rshepard@localhost [mailto:rshepard@localhost] On Behalf Of Rich
Shepard

   My outbound mail is relayed through SpiritOne (nee Aracnet).

   I would like to understand why the domain is 'localhost' rather than the
actual domain, and how to fix it so outgoing messages have the correct
domain name.

   All thoughts welcome.

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> That part doesn't work for me. I assume you meant the window of the
> app that I want to specify the geometry for.

John,

   Yep.

> With Evince open and properly sized the way I normally want it I placed
> the mouse pointer at the bottom right corner, but all I could ever get was
> the resize window icon for the pointer.

   Must be a difference in the window managers we use. Well, it was a good
try. :-)

Regards,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread John Jason Jordan 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:28:26 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
>> I use Xfce4, but I didn't know about that feature. Where is it, or
>> do I have to specify in the launch command?

>You can identify the geometry by moving the pointer to the bottom right
>corner and moving it slightly. A small window with the x and y sizes
>opens in the center.

That part doesn't work for me. I assume you meant the window of the
app that I want to specify the geometry for. In my case all the apps
that I use all the time remember their size and location when they were
last used, except Evince. And Evince is my default PDF viewer, so just
about every time I open a PDF I have to drag the corners of its window.
I don't know where Evince gets its notion about what size to open to,
but it's just about always something bizarre.

With Evince open and properly sized the way I normally want it I placed
the mouse pointer at the bottom right corner, but all I could ever get
was the resize window icon for the pointer.
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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> I use Xfce4, but I didn't know about that feature. Where is it, or do I
> have to specify in the launch command?

John,

   I work with the panel so I don't know about icons or using the Xfce menu.

   The panel has a series of 'launchers,' the one displayed and others from
the same spot added to that list. In the properties widget for each
application are 4 text entry widgets: name, comment, command, and working
directory. The command line can be edited.

   For example, emacs which opens in an urxvt terminal has this command line:
/usr/bin/emacs -fg wheat -bg black -geometry 115x45+150+10

   The geometry specifies a width of 115 pixels and a height of 45 pixels
and places the upper left corner of the window at 150, 10 pixels (x, y).

   Another example: LyX which opens in its own window has this command line:
/usr/bin/lyx -geometry 1300x800+40+20

   You can identify the geometry by moving the pointer to the bottom right
corner and moving it slightly. A small window with the x and y sizes opens
in the center.

HTH,

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread Dick Steffens 
On 07/26/2017 08:54 AM, Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Dick Steffens wrote:
>
>> I have an annoyance with Libre Office.
> Dick,
> No surprise there. :-)
>
>> I have a spreadsheet that I set to take up a certain amount of screen
>> space. If I have nothing else open in LibreOffice, and I close that
>> spreadsheet, but not LibreOffice, I get what I'm sure they intend to be a
>> helpful preview kind of window with a column of commands on the left and a
>> collection of recently used documents on the right. My annoyance is with
>> how the window size does not revert to the size I had set for the
>> spreadsheet when I reopen it.
> That's the default window if you do not specify a document type. I suspect
> that it has the standard LO default size. Perhaps expanding it to your
> desired size will allow the spreadsheet to fill the same space when
> re-opened.

My problem is that I want a smaller window for my spreadsheet, which I 
can easily get by resizing, but it's annoying to have to do something 
that used to automatically work. It still works if I have some other LO 
window open, like a LO writer document, or if there's no other LO window 
open.

> Alternatively, if your desktop environment allows you to define the
> command line for applications opened from an icon or menu, set the geometry
> parameter to the desired window size. Not sure that works for LO but here
> (with Xfce4) I can define the default geometry and window position for
> applications.

That would be good if I wanted all invocations to open in one set size. 
I have different spreadsheets and writer documents that want to be 
different sizes. LO knows about them, and usually does the right thing.

So, what I'll look for is if there's a way to change the default window 
with no document specified. I have no use for the collection of 
previously worked on documents, so I'll see if there's some way to turn 
that feature off.

Thanks for the thoughts.

-- 
Regards,

Dick Steffens

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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread John Jason Jordan 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017 08:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>   Alternatively, if your desktop environment allows you to define the
>command line for applications opened from an icon or menu, set the
>geometry parameter to the desired window size. Not sure that works for
>LO but here (with Xfce4) I can define the default geometry and window
>position for applications.

I use Xfce4, but I didn't know about that feature. Where is it, or do I
have to specify in the launch command?
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Re: [PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Dick Steffens wrote:

> I have an annoyance with Libre Office.

Dick,
   No surprise there. :-)

> I have a spreadsheet that I set to take up a certain amount of screen
> space. If I have nothing else open in LibreOffice, and I close that
> spreadsheet, but not LibreOffice, I get what I'm sure they intend to be a
> helpful preview kind of window with a column of commands on the left and a
> collection of recently used documents on the right. My annoyance is with
> how the window size does not revert to the size I had set for the
> spreadsheet when I reopen it.

   That's the default window if you do not specify a document type. I suspect
that it has the standard LO default size. Perhaps expanding it to your
desired size will allow the spreadsheet to fill the same space when
re-opened.

   Alternatively, if your desktop environment allows you to define the
command line for applications opened from an icon or menu, set the geometry
parameter to the desired window size. Not sure that works for LO but here
(with Xfce4) I can define the default geometry and window position for
applications.

HTH,

Rich
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[PLUG] What do you call it? LibreOffice preview screen?

2017-07-26 Thread Dick Steffens 
I have an annoyance with Libre Office. I have a spreadsheet that I set 
to take up a certain amount of screen space. If I have nothing else open 
in LibreOffice, and I close that spreadsheet, but not LibreOffice, I get 
what I'm sure they intend to be a helpful preview kind of window with a 
column of commands on the left and a collection of recently used 
documents on the right. My annoyance is with how the window size does 
not revert to the size I had set for the spreadsheet when I reopen it.

My problem is that I don't know what to call what I'm seeing so I can 
search and see if there's a way to change it. Any ideas?

Thanks.

-- 
Regards,

Dick Steffens

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