I am all for exploring weird corners out of curiosity. But your aversion
to using network devices to do networking is just perverse.
I spent the Thursday-Saturday re-exploring dial-up modem networking. Turns
out I had 5 dial-up modems of various descriptions in my basement. I was at
ToorCamp on
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 6:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/24/2018 06:48 PM, wes wrote:
>
>> [snip]
>>
>> I've just ordered one so I can play with it for a bit myself. Perhaps at
>> the next Linux Clinic, if we have time, we can invite Richard to
>> participate remotely.
>>
>
> Should be
Zeroconf, that's what I was thinking of. I thought Avahi was standard on
Debian these days?
Then again, who knows what's actually running out there in the weeds past
Estacada...
-wes
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Larry Brigman
wrote:
> The local 169.254 address is part of zeroconf. If
The local 169.254 address is part of zeroconf. If that package (avahi on
some distros) isn't loaded or the service is disabled/not running then
there won't be any autoconfiguration.
I did see that one of the interfaces was up with link(UP,LOWER_UP) in the
output.
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:48 PM
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
> What are you even on about? It's a network device... "Gates and Company"
> uses a really complicated, error prone piece of crap sync software to do a
> one-time sync from a system running an old version of Windows to a system
> running a
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2350138
That forum question addresses the issues at hand very well... You are using
a USB cable that emulates an Ethernet adapter, so switch out device names
accordingly, but there is literally no distinction from the software side.
IF IT WERE ME, I would
You know, I had this running with one of my cell phones and not
intentionally,
I would plug the thing into one of my laptops and it would setup the usual
connection to move files around, BUT it would also setup a network
connection,
trying to use the cellular as another network path out (as if the
What are you even on about? It's a network device... "Gates and Company"
uses a really complicated, error prone piece of crap sync software to do a
one-time sync from a system running an old version of Windows to a system
running a newer version of Windows... Linux can very very certainly
On 06/24/2018 10:01 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
On 06/24/2018 07:24 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
On 06/23/2018 11:09 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:>
Similarly for either end of cable plugged in to receptacle 1.
richard@debian-jan13:~$ # left end of cable in receptacle 1
richard@debian-jan13:~$ ls
On 06/23/2018 12:49 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/23/2018 11:35 AM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 09:23 Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/20/2018 06:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/19/2018 11:10 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
[*SNIP*]
Well, your Prolific PL25A1-based cable isn't
On 06/23/2018 11:35 AM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 09:23 Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/20/2018 06:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/19/2018 11:10 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
[*SNIP*]
Well, your Prolific PL25A1-based cable isn't just two Ethernet chips
back to back, but it's
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018, 09:23 Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/20/2018 06:40 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 06/19/2018 11:10 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
> > [*SNIP*]
> >> Well, your Prolific PL25A1-based cable isn't just two Ethernet chips
> >> back to back, but it's close. It uses the same networking
On 06/19/2018 11:10 AM, Galen Seitz wrote:
On 06/19/2018 08:15 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
Plug in one end of cable
[ 1882.167155] usb 4-1.1.4: new high-speed USB device number 4 using
ehci-pci
[ 1882.278177] usb 4-1.1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=067b,
idProduct=25a1
[ 1882.278183] usb
On 06/19/2018 07:43 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
Oh, your right... I looked too quickly this morning. Everything looks fine!
Still more Ethernet than the "No Ethernet" that Richard originally stated
as his mission statement.
I was explicitly trying to avoid using "USB-ethernet adapter",
On 06/19/2018 07:07 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
On the second side, the interface name is enp0s29u1u1u4. On the first side,
the output doesn't make sense, I would try again.
What part doesn't make sense? It looks like he unplugged and
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
> On the second side, the interface name is enp0s29u1u1u4. On the first side,
> the output doesn't make sense, I would try again.
>
What part doesn't make sense? It looks like he unplugged and replugged in
a different USB port and the
On 06/19/2018 09:02 AM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
On the second side, the interface name is enp0s29u1u1u4. On the first side,
the output doesn't make sense, I would try again.
BUT, of interest, it looks like the hardware in the middle of the cable
turns out to be two Prolific USB-to-serial adapters
On 06/19/2018 08:15 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
Plug in one end of cable
[ 1882.167155] usb 4-1.1.4: new high-speed USB device number 4 using
ehci-pci
[ 1882.278177] usb 4-1.1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=067b,
idProduct=25a1
[ 1882.278183] usb 4-1.1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1,
On the second side, the interface name is enp0s29u1u1u4. On the first side,
the output doesn't make sense, I would try again.
BUT, of interest, it looks like the hardware in the middle of the cable
turns out to be two Prolific USB-to-serial adapters back to back in
Ethernet Emulator mode... So,
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:13 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/19/2018 06:45 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
> > Here is someone 10 years ago, using debian:
> >
> >
> >
> https://jonmccune.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/prolific-pl-25a1-usb-to-usb-bridge-in-linux/
>
> Now bookmarked. I read. It stated in
Plug in one end of cable
[ 1882.167155] usb 4-1.1.4: new high-speed USB device number 4 using
ehci-pci
[ 1882.278177] usb 4-1.1.4: New USB device found, idVendor=067b,
idProduct=25a1
[ 1882.278183] usb 4-1.1.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=0
[ 1882.278187] usb
Now that you know how to find the interface names, you can use them to
replace eth0 in my examples.
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Russell Senior
wrote:
>
>
>
> The description says, in part:
>
> "Supported by Linux kernel 3.0 and later as a high-speed virtual network
> interface, no special
On 06/19/2018 06:45 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
Here is someone 10 years ago, using debian:
https://jonmccune.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/prolific-pl-25a1-usb-to-usb-bridge-in-linux/
What your distribution does (even if it is still Debian) might be different
today, but it looks like it creates a
Just as an example of something remotely like what you might expect to see
in the dmesg output, here's what I see when I plug a usb-ethernet adapter
into a Ubuntu 16.04 USB 3 port:
[...]
[2793539.351788] usb 3-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
[2793539.378837] usb 3-2: New USB
So, do you see the usbN interface or not?
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/19/2018 06:45 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
>
>> Here is someone 10 years ago, using debian:
>>
>>
>> https://jonmccune.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/prolific-pl-25a1-
>> usb-to-usb-bridge-in-linux/
On 06/19/2018 06:45 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
Here is someone 10 years ago, using debian:
https://jonmccune.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/prolific-pl-25a1-usb-to-usb-bridge-in-linux/
Now bookmarked. I read. It stated in part "... a new usbX network
interface (view with `ifconfig -a`)."
I tried
Wow... He doesn't know what dmesg is, and you're throwing him straight into
pipes, tail, and less? What's wrong with just running a command naked?
This is how people get overwhelmed... And overwhelmed people start asking
questions like "How do I make my Linux system single-user?"
On Tue, Jun 19,
On 06/18/2018 12:58 PM, Galen Seitz wrote:
On 06/18/2018 02:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/18/2018 02:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
>
That said, consider the following questions as you begin your quest:
You say "networking". Can you define what you mean by that word?
A LAN with only
On 06/18/2018 10:14 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 2:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip]
You say "USB Master-USB Master" cable. Which one?
I didn't buy online but from local computer store.
This page describes what I bought.
On 06/18/2018 02:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 06/18/2018 02:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
>
That said, consider the following questions as you begin your quest:
You say "networking". Can you define what you mean by that word?
A LAN with only two computers at a time.
You say "USB
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 2:55 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/18/2018 02:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
>
>> "Richard" == Richard Owlett writes:
>>>
>>
>> Richard> For IDIOSYNCRATIC and weird local constraints I am working on
>> Richard> networking *TWO* computers via a "USB MASTER-USB
On Sun, 2018-06-17 at 20:39 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/17/2018 05:50 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
> > Oh... I guess I only answered one question...
>
>
>
> >
> > To the second question: When you want to do something that no one
> > else has ever done,
FTFY: or nobody seems to be
On 06/18/2018 02:44 AM, Russell Senior wrote:
"Richard" == Richard Owlett writes:
Richard> For IDIOSYNCRATIC and weird local constraints I am working on
Richard> networking *TWO* computers via a "USB MASTER-USB MASTER"
Richard> cable. There are "cookbook"{sic/sick}" for "normal"(sic) users
When I asked "Can anyone point me to a "library like" resource
recognizing that Micro$oft has competition?", I thought there would so
few examples I never considered a web search. My bad ;{
Did a DuckDuckGo search and received pages of hits.
Thanks.
On 06/17/2018 09:20 PM, Tyrell Jentink
> "Richard" == Richard Owlett writes:
Richard> For IDIOSYNCRATIC and weird local constraints I am working on
Richard> networking *TWO* computers via a "USB MASTER-USB MASTER"
Richard> cable. There are "cookbook"{sic/sick}" for "normal"(sic) users
Richard> with ethernet.
One important thing
Kalispell's library has changed... A lot... Since I was last there. BUT, I
wasn't the only one to take note of their Linux based systems:
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/libraries/
As for Reno... It does look like Linux has continued to be a priority since
I was last paying attention:
On 06/17/2018 06:04 PM, Rich Shepard wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018, Richard Owlett wrote:
In that brochure the word "Mac" occurs twice. "Linux" *NEVER* occurs.
Keyboarding skills are mentioned. They also ask the question "Does
grammar
matter?"
Richard,
Not an answer to your question, but
On 06/17/2018 05:50 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
Oh... I guess I only answered one question...
To the second question: When you want to do something that no one else has
ever done,
Actually it has been done.
It's just not popular ;/
why would you expect anyone to know how to do it?
Working in tech support gives me all the ammo I could possibly need.
I worked with a customer a few weeks back who was having an issue with one
of my company's USB devices. It wasn't being recognized in Windows 10.
Worked on a Mac just fine, but he needed a certain piece of software to do
his
ROFL^^GRIN^^SNICKER
Can you give me links?
I intend to fight with a bureaucracy. Need ammo ;/
On 06/17/2018 05:41 PM, Tyrell Jentink wrote:
I don't consider this to be off topic...
But aren't you the one that lives (Several states) east of Estacada? How is
any advice I'm about to give going
Oh... I guess I only answered one question...
To the second question: When you want to do something that no one else has
ever done, why would you expect anyone to know how to do it? If you want to
be the first, then go do that... But people who need their hands held don't
usually succeed in the
I don't consider this to be off topic...
But aren't you the one that lives (Several states) east of Estacada? How is
any advice I'm about to give going to help anyone? In light of that...
The county libraries in Reno, NV offer classes in open source software.
Last I looked (Erm... Several years
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