Oh dear, Jim Simmons has replied on his blog and it is far from
positive:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f?postId=121379641initial_page_size=20#comment_121379641
Sounds to me like the 'Audio Factory' has closed the door to AAC
SHOUTcast and bolted
Looks like Jazz FM has changed again: those links at the start of this
thread, which I've been using successfully to catchup-listen to Dinner
Jazz since they were posted, now are permanently attached to late-Dec-14
shows.
Anyone have a new set of links?
Jazz FM's website seem to have new
Something that I was wondering about is the talk of needing to transcode
the AAC streams to make them compatible with LMS - doesn't that reduce
the audio quality or will it not make any difference? I would have
thought playing the stream in it's native format would be best, wouldn't
it?
Hi Erland,
Longtime happy user of the Custom Scan, Trackstat iTunes import/export
here. The main use is the synchronisation of new ratings.
But since a few weeks, I'm not able to get my new ratings from iTunes
into LMS with the Custom Scan iTunes import.
This happens in the log after manually
Does anyone have an update regarding the talks between Triode and the
BBC?
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W92Neriah wrote:
Oh dear, Jim Simmons has replied on his blog and it is far from
positive:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f?postId=121379641initial_page_size=20#comment_121379641
Sounds to me like the 'Audio Factory' has closed the door to
Nick_G wrote:
Something that I was wondering about is the talk of needing to transcode
the AAC streams to make them compatible with LMS - doesn't that reduce
the audio quality or will it not make any difference? I would have
thought playing the stream in it's native format would be best,
This is kind of off-topic, but I have always found the references to
Jazz FM to be confusing. As it turns out, this is because there are two
discrete and separate stations using the same name.
JazzFM in Toronto is at 91.1 on the radio dial, and online. It's a
non-profit operation, with an
markiii wrote:
any thoughts?
You have looked over 'here'
(http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=18310) I presume?
atb
Ronnie
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markiii wrote:
even the 128k MP3 Shoutcast streams are buffering every 30 secs today,
looks like the server is getting hammered
Not just the server(s) .. it's taking over an hour for blog posts to get
moderated. Maybe the workers at the Audio Factory have called a
lightning strike, or a
My RadioFeeds UK Ireland Plugin (with AAC+), please? :)
Give the problems with the BBC services lately, I've had a huge increase
in sign-ups.
I hope it's of great benefit to users.
The ZIP file is at www.radiofeeds.co.uk/mypicks/RadioFeedsSBS.zip
*RadioFeeds UK Ireland..* an up-to-date
I am using iPeng 8.0.4 and have been using iPeng since the first
version. It is one of my favourite apps on my iPhone. iPeng seems even
better on my iPhone 6 Plus.
I have one minor issue which might be a Settings issue either with iPeng
OR LMS.
When I display an album track listing it seems to
W92Neriah wrote:
I said that because for our use (playing .MP3s off local storage on the
server and streaming BBC radio live on-demand) v7.5.5 has worked
perfectly, with no problems. YMMV of course.
That's my usage too except I play .flacs off local storage on the
server.
Hi philippe_44, PastTim and whoever was involved,
just wanted to thank you for this great software.
Yesterday I tried your bridge - mainly just out of curiosity - and it
all works great!
Two remarks which may be helpful to others:
1) My server is a Win 7 32Bit machine and I first had
W92Neriah wrote:
Another multi Squeezebox user seriously upset by another BBC blunder :(
@Triode: Hoping you can save 'us' from more tech pain. If you want to
put a 'PayPal donation' link on your profile page I'd happily donate
towards your costs for updating the BBC iPlayer plugin for LMS
ModelCitizen wrote:
Crikey. They're all coming out of the woodwork now!
Hey MC. I know! It's a bit like a reunion isn't it? ;-)
The BBC4 Feedback program is planning to cover this issue this week I
understand, so there is some growing visibility within other parts of
the BBC as well.
Who
Hi,
I've seen the question of max2play functioning as an AccessPoint pop
up.
Any plans for this to happen?
Would be great to be able to run max2play as a fully self contained
system :)
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current BBC issues aside, just installed the BBC IPplayer plugin on a
new server
I did this by selecting the plugin from the 3rd party list, clicking
enabling and allowing the server to do a restart.
Problem is it just repeats the statement on reboot that the plugin needs
updating, I click to
Klammer wrote:
Using the Radiofeeds app I can listen to BBC Radio Leeds on a WMP stream
but all other links to stream national radio as mp3 shows Error:No
items found in playlist.
Is this still hapenning for you?
I've tried Radio 1 and 5 live and they're playing OK.
*RadioFeeds UK
That's indeed an LMS tagging/tag handling issue then. iPeng shows the
trackartist so if you see composer it means for some reason LMS puts
composer into the track artist field.
Which LMS version is this?
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even the 128k MP3 Shoutcast streams are buffering every 30 secs today,
looks like the server is getting hammered
Transporter (Lounge)
Touch (Office)
Touch (Kitchen)
Radio (Bedroom)
Radio (Garage)
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markiii wrote:
thanks Ronnie, don't think its applicable though unless there is some
specific point on there your thinking of?
Well, not knowing anything about the OS, I was thinking it might be an
idea to contact the plug-in developer.
There might be a restriction on the version of LMS
thanks Ronnie, don't think its applicable though unless there is some
specific point on there your thinking of?
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majones wrote:
I'm guessing, but if you're running SSODS/SSOTS behind LMS, and your
version of LMS is 7.8.1 or later, then you need to implement a tweak for
plugin updates to end-up in the right place. It's well documented around
the place. Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick.
eek wrote:
I don't think you read his comment that well..
and
which to me sounds like they are doing what they can to help. Remember
all we need is the urls (and we can add any sensible parameters they
insist on us sending) once we have that the very worst case would be
needing
Chippy wrote:
Nick - my understanding is that LMS transcodes from the streaming codec
to (lossless) FLAC (for use on the local network), so the stream
shouldn't take much of a quality hit if any.
I'm sure others will correct me if I'm mistaken...
Chippy
By definition, transcoding to
interesting, Ron. I didn't know about the Toronto station; I'll check it
out.
I was talking about the other one you mention, which hosts Helen
Mayhew's excellent Dinner Jazz shows. Some irritating ads, for sure, not
least the embarrasing Port interruptions, some cod northener going on
about
majones wrote:
Hi bpa. Firstly, it would be really really really appreciated if you
could work out a plugin that allows us to play HLS (or HDS if less
difficult) streams. I appreciate it's not easy given your comments on
another thread about a Danish stream. Secondly, being more aware than
W92Neriah wrote:
@eek: Thanks but I did read Jim's latest reply and IMHO we have a call
booked with Logitech tomorrow morning means next to nothing. Even if
something is agreed, how long will it take for a solution to be
developed, tested and made available? During which time we have limited
Chippy wrote:
Nick - my understanding is that LMS transcodes from the streaming codec
to (lossless) FLAC (for use on the local network), so the stream
shouldn't take much of a quality hit if any.
I'm sure others will correct me if I'm mistaken!
Chippy
OK thanks. Even if a solution is
PasTim wrote:
My ignorance shows few bounds, but I think these are some:
://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_two.m3u8
cncb wrote:
Maybe you could take this opportunity to get it in the Amazon app store?
I would really like to get this for my Kindle.
It's not on Kindle because the licensing and in-app purchase system is
tied to Google Play. Replacing that with Amazon's system would be a
major undertaking.
bpa wrote:
I am not in the UK so the URL change for me.
A Quick fix to test for those who wish to try. If these seem to work
for UK users - I'll make a plugin which has the necessary conf file and
it will be simple for user.
The BBC HLS URLs have a specific mime type (different to
I am not in the UK so the URL change for me.
A Quick fix to test for those who wish to try. If these seem to work
for UK users - I'll make a plugin which has the necessary conf file and
it will be simple for user.
The BBC HLS URLs have a specific mime type (different to previous apple
bpa wrote:
Do you have a BBC HLS URL I can try ?
Hi bpa. Here's a couple for Radio 1. The first is HLS and the second (I
think) HDS. Only the first one works for me through VLC:
bpa wrote:
Do you have a BBC HLS URL I can try ?
My ignorance shows few bounds, but I think these are some:
http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/high/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8
Klammer wrote:
I no longer use a PC and I'm on a Chromebook.
Ah.. you might be interested in this, then! ;)
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/radiofeeds-uk-ireland/ellciebhdingdcinobojnhefacbjbfnm
*Plug plug*
Klammer wrote:
Everything else is streaming fine from the Synology
mikemc wrote:
re: complaints, which category are people choosing to complain about via
the drop down menus on the BBC complaints website, it would probably be
good if everyone followed the same complaint procedure, would it be
Radio General BBC Radion Coverage etc?
I used the
Owen Smith wrote:
How can you say If it aint broke... about 7.5.5? I started with 7.5.4
and went through all the 7.5 series on my Duet. The 7.5 series was very
flaky and buggy, always falling over, Receiver rebooting, server doing
stupid things etc. It was agony, I nearly gave up on
re: complaints, which category are people choosing to complain about via
the drop down menus on the BBC complaints website, it would probably be
good if everyone followed the same complaint procedure, would it be
Radio General BBC Radion Coverage etc?
One thing barely mentioned yet is the situation with the Listen Again
streams. Although these still seem to be working with Triode's plugin,
aren't these also supposed to be changing over to HLS and HDS? From the
BBC's announcement on Monday I got the impression this was also supposed
to have
markiii wrote:
any thoughts?
I'm guessing, but if you're running SSODS/SSOTS behind LMS, and your
version of LMS is 7.8.1 or later, then you need to implement a tweak for
plugin updates to end-up in the right place. It's well documented around
the place. Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the
utgg wrote:
Please someone tell me I am wrong!
I'm like you on this issue. From what Jim Simmons has said, all streams
will be HLS/HDS AAC plus for live streams temporary availability of
Shoutcast MP3. I'm just waiting for the bomb to drop.
utgg wrote:
One thing barely mentioned yet is the situation with the Listen Again
streams. Although these still seem to be working with Triode's plugin,
aren't these also supposed to be changing over to HLS and HDS? From the
BBC's announcement on Monday I got the impression this was also
pippin wrote:
I mean... Does Google also think all web browsers are illegal because
you can use them to show album covers?
When I republish, I'm replacing all the album covers in the screenshots
with the blank disc image. I am guessing that some music publisher
complained when they noticed
Do you have a blog post or something to quote?
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pippin wrote:
Yea, sure, but that applies to advertising only, right. Not the App
itself.
Yes, the app will still show the album covers. Google does not
pre-screen applications, so I think as long as nobody complains, they
won't do anything.
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This is ridiculous. You are only showing artwork from sources you have
the rights to use (services or the user himself)
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Ah. Now _that_ of course has its merits. And explains why that review
guy didn't give a f to come to a reasonable conclusion
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fphredd wrote:
Sorry for hijacking the Android thread...do luv the app on my android
tablet...
as to my Nokia Icon (929) - I still cannot see my local server or type
in the address as no keyboard appears :(
If you think of anyway I can help track this down, just let me know! -
guess I
pippin wrote:
This is ridiculous. You are only showing artwork from sources you have
the rights to use (services or the user himself)
Sometimes I hate that support systems these days are all email based.
This is a case where I think being able to actually have a person to
reason with would
Yea, I know what you mean. Apple is having the same type of craziness at
times but there must be some way to escalate this, right?
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pippin wrote:
Yea, I know what you mean. Apple is having the same type of craziness at
times but there must be some way to escalate this, right?
No, the final email I received states that the decision is final and
they will no longer respond to any email regarding this issue.
Yea, sure, but that applies to advertising only, right. Not the App
itself.
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I mean... Does Google also think all web browsers are illegal because
you can use them to show album covers?
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pippin wrote:
Do you have a blog post or something to quote?
No I don't have a blog, but here's the original notification from
Google:
Code:
This is a notification that your application, Squeeze Control, with package
ID com.angrygoat.android.sqzctrl, has been
pippin wrote:
Btw: I really think (from the wording) the original complaint wasn't
about use in the App but for advertising the App.
Maybe, but after the removal, they did not give me the option to update
the screenshots.
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Squeeze Control has been permanently removed from Google Play due to
Google's idiotic belief that the display of album covers require the
authorization of the content or brand owners.
I've made the current APK available to existing users. Please refer to
the first post of this thread.
Mind if I tweet this?
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pippin wrote:
Mind if I tweet this?
Go ahead.
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Btw: I really think (from the wording) the original complaint wasn't
about use in the App but for advertising the App.
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Mnyb wrote:
You can hack a file on the Touch so that it does not obey volume
commands it's in an old tread somewhere .
But it's better if it's done properly .
The latest version of Squeeze Control will send volume commands for a
'Fixed Volume' player.
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wt0 wrote:
The latest version of Squeeze Control will send volume commands for a
'Fixed Volume' player.
Then it's properly fixed :) no need for anyone to fuzz with ssh and
vi
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J
vinnielo wrote:
Ah.. you might be interested in this, then! ;)
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/radiofeeds-uk-ireland/ellciebhdingdcinobojnhefacbjbfnm
*Plug plug*
Chrome extension installed and so I now have 4Extra as a listen live
channel again, thank you very much.
vinnielo
cncb wrote:
Thanks, that would be great. I am using the digital out of my Touch but
if it is not set to fixed volume, the Touch volume does affect the PCM
output.
This actually seems to works fine for me.
You can hack a file on the Touch so that it does not obey volume
commands it's
majones wrote:
This is a clear description of what has gone wrong at the BBC's end:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f?postId=121374728initial_page_size=20#comment_121374728
How would anyone ever know whether it saves or costs more money?
Without
Check this post out:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f?postId=121377860initial_page_size=20#comment_121377860
The Audio Factory crowd should hang their heads in shame.
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bpa wrote:
As I understand it, a good reason is to get away from rebuffering
(which users hate) - HLS/HDS/DASH all allow for changing bitrates while
a stream is playing so if backbone network gets overloaded or just the
user home wifi gets slow - the server will be able to choose to send a
This is a clear description of what has gone wrong at the BBC's end:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f?postId=121374728initial_page_size=20#comment_121374728
majones's
castalla wrote:
How would anyone ever know whether it saves or costs more money?
Without open accounting it's all conjecture.
As I understand it, a good reason is to get away from rebuffering
(which users hate) - HLS/HDS/DASH all allow for changing bitrates while
a stream is playing so if
Nothing playing on the iPlayer Radio App on Galaxy Note3 or Lenovo
tablet now!
The BBC just lost themselves thousands of radio listeners and don't seem
to care, can we get a BBC licence refund anywhere please?
Klammer's
Sorry for hijacking the Android thread...do luv the app on my android
tablet...
as to my Nokia Icon (929) - I still cannot see my local server or type
in the address as no keyboard appears :(
If you think of anyway I can help track this down, just let me know! -
guess I should have Tried before
I know I've come across this problem before, but can't remember if I
ever solved it. I know I've read the same multiple pages on this forum
before about it! Having just reinstalled my whole system, I'm stuck
again with the problem and want to try and tackle it. Things seem to
work however: I
vinnielo wrote:
Is this still hapenning for you?
I've tried Radio 1 and 5 live and they're playing OK.
Just tried again with Radio 1, Radio 5 Live and Radio 4extra and I get
fetching track details swiftly followed by error:no items in
playlist
I am clicking on the BBC Radio 1 (mp3)
Klammer wrote:
Just tried again with Radio 1, Radio 5 Live and Radio 4extra and I get
fetching track details swiftly followed by error:no items in
playlist
I am clicking on the BBC Radio 1 (mp3) [National, Pop, Dance, RB, Rock]
type streams. The ones labelled DAB just get me Mr. Miserable
peter galbavy wrote:
yes, of course they know what a pilot is! It's that moustached bloke who
takes them to the next party in the private jet.
lol
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vinnielo wrote:
So you're using LMS. Not anything wrong that I can see.
Can you try it with mysqueezebox as well just to see what kind of result
you get from that?
Hi, thanks for the reply, exactly the same result on mysqueezebox I'm
afraid, same error messages
wt0 wrote:
I'm appealing the removal, but it will take some time to sort things
out.
Maybe you could take this opportunity to get it in the Amazon app store?
I would really like to get this for my Kindle.
cncb's
castalla wrote:
Check this post out:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f?postId=121377860initial_page_size=20#comment_121377860
The Audio Factory crowd should hang their heads in shame.
Just sent this link to my MP.
Perhaps people who know
Klammer wrote:
Hi, thanks for the reply, exactly the same result on mysqueezebox I'm
afraid, same error messages
Just to see if it's your network being funny, can you listen to the mp3
stream on your computer from http://lsn.to/BR1?
*RadioFeeds UK Ireland..* an up-to-date radio directory
castalla wrote:
Fair enough - but haven't the Beeb ever heard of a pilot?
They have been piloting HLS for at least the last year - a few station
were available on it inlcuding BBC London.
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vinnielo wrote:
Just to see if it's your network being funny, can you listen to the mp3
stream on your computer from http://lsn.to/BR1?
I no longer use a PC and I'm on a Chromebook. Everything else is
streaming fine from the Synology server to the Squeezboxes (FLAC etc)
and I can also stream
castalla wrote:
Fair enough - but haven't the Beeb ever heard of a pilot?
Yes, of course they know what a pilot is! It's that moustached bloke who
takes them to the next party in the private jet.
Peter Galbavy's
anotherbob wrote:
Much as I loathe the Daily Mail, I believe I might alert their newsdesk
to this.
Please don't! They'll just feed the trolls who want to sell off the
Beeb to Sky
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bpa wrote:
As I understand it, a good reason is to get away from rebuffering
(which users hate) - HLS/HDS/DASH all allow for changing bitrates while
a stream is playing so if backbone network gets overloaded or just the
user home wifi gets slow - the server will be able to choose to send a
castalla wrote:
Check this post out:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/977a1954-658f-4fb2-a23c-71680c49882f?postId=121377860initial_page_size=20#comment_121377860
The Audio Factory crowd should hang their heads in shame.
Much as I loathe the Daily Mail, I believe I might alert
bpa wrote:
They have been piloting HLS for at least the last year - a few station
were available on it including BBC London. I know because I played them
a few months ago when they announced the changeover.
Hi bpa. Firstly, it would be really really really appreciated if you
could work out a
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