Do not worry ... you are not going to miss BBC, For this BBC iplayer
providing you the services Expat Shield.
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I had Alien BBC working fine and moved to 7.3.3. on an XP server. When
testing from the settings plugin page it work fine but will not stream
to a player when I use the IP:9000/stream.mp3 method. This includes
iTunes running on the same machine. It used to work fine streaming to
Tuner App on
Nothing's wrong - AlienBBC is setup to only play to SB devices.
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I accept that, but has it changed? It worked fine before streaming to an
iPhone or iTunes, when did it change?
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IT has always been that way unless you changed the code.
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I have been playing BBC real player streams and they worked very will
through an iPhone up until now, are you suggesting there is still a way
to listen to BBC live streams through remote players that are not SBs?
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OK thanks for letting me know, I see the more radio link and can stream
Absolute radio and the other streams through iTunes on a PC but the BBC
streams alone do not work. This was in log file.
[09-07-10 20:01:16.1403] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (223)
Error: Can't connect to remote
It looks like your SC is trying to transcode WMA to MP3 but it is not
setup.
Please give details of SC - what OS are you using ? If it is Linux or
OSX then perhaps AlienBBC is not properly installed as it will be
providing WMA decode.
In WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetype is WMA - MP3 enabled or
Yes correct all boxes to transcode to mp3 are greyed out, wonder why?
I am running 7.3.4 on an XP PC SP2. According to extension downloader I
have Alien BBC but an earlier reply suggested I no longer needed it as I
could use the Internet radio, More radio for BBC channels, do I still
need Alien
You did install lame as well ?
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If you are trying to playing a WMA stream to stream.mp3 - yopu need
something to decode WMA and lame to encode it into MP3.
On Linux and OSX - AlienBBC will decode WMA, on XP there is a SC
supplied app to do the job.
I don't know the iPhone capabilities - is it not able to play WMA
streams
Ahhh, having tried deleting everthing to solve this problem I may have
deledted Lame. I just downloaded it and put it in the squeezecenter
folder does it matter where and do I need a restart fro SC to see it?
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I obviously did install it years ago when I began using squeezecenter
but having done a full delete of everything to try to resolve this issue
I must have delected it. Just downloaded but where does it go? I put it
in Ssqueezecenter folder, SC see it?
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No put lame.exe into the SC Bin directory which also has apps such as
wmadec.exe, faad.exe and alac.exe.
I am not sure which version of lame.exe SC is setup to use - lame.exe
use of -x changed between versions. The wrong version will result in
static audio. Start with 3.96.1 and then try 3.98.
Changing the bitrate on my helped to make AlienBBC work on my SlimP3,
but now normal music on my system (MP3's) struggle to play properly.
They pause regularly (usually once or twice within a song) and have to
re buffer themselves to catch up.
Could someone tell me what the line used to be so
If you only changes the line RTSP MP3 - it will only afect RTSP formats
and not any other format MP3 - so yor MP3 problem is coincidental and
unrelated.
You should check whether you made other changes to your system and not
just the RTSP one.
You can disable a plugin from settings and rebbot to
Thanks for that.
I restored the original file (noticed that I made a backup before
changes) and the MP3 pausing is still there. I'd better start another
thread for that.
Thanks again
Damian
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On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:59 AM, raglencross wrote:
WikiRadio appears to be broken in Alien BBC. Nothing happens when
Wiki
is clicked. This is probably because the link
http://wikiradio.slimdevices.com/ no longer works. Has the WikiRadio
service been discontinued or changed?
I also missed it
Thanks for the heads up. I brought the matter up with Logitech Support
ten days or so ago. I assume Wikiradio reappearing is a result of
something they did there. However, in an email from them today they
said they were in effect still trying to figure out what Wikiradio was,
so I am not very
I note that the BBC stations are now in the Logitech menus and will play
from outside of the UK. While I'll continue to use Alien because it
provides me access to Listen Again and Schedules, does this mean that
Real Player support is now native on Squeezebox? I thought the reason
for Alien
RealAudio is not native in SB players.
The WMA BBC live stations are now available outside of the UK so there
is no need for AlienBBC because WMA is supported natively. However I
think Listen Again (and possible Local Radio) is still only available in
RealAudio so AlienBBC is still needed for
Ah! Thanks for clearing that up for me.
On that note please do not think that Alien is now superflous; as long
as you have the strength to continue development you've got at least one
user
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For completeness, I have since found out that Listen Again is also now
available for non-UK users in Flash based AACplus. This is academic
since this format is not supported natively by SB either.
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Problem solved. Logitech now provide preconfigured BBC stations, so I
don't need AlienBBC anymore.
Thanks for your support.
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Sorry, I was quite busy laterly, but finally got around to this:
When I launch mplayer on the CLI of the Synology Diskstation, I get the
following:
Synology mplayer
Player 1.0rc1-3.4.3 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: PowerPC
No usb speaker detected.
Synology
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WikiRadio appears to be broken in Alien BBC. Nothing happens when Wiki
is clicked. This is probably because the link
http://wikiradio.slimdevices.com/ no longer works. Has the WikiRadio
service been discontinued or changed?
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BPA,
thanks for your info.
I am using the following:
Server name: Synology
Serial number: 8BE9N00021
Model name: DS408
Total Physical Memory: 512 MB
Firmware version: DSM 2.1-0844
In the Squeezecenter advanced / filetypes tab it refers to mplayer.sh,
not mplayer
Thanks
Rudi
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Mplayer does not get installed as part of AlienBBC and it looks like you
haven't used SSODS.
It is necessary to to find out does the mplayer on your system work.
Can you run mplayer from a shell prompt and copy the banner info to a
post.
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On the Synology Squeezecenter, when I open Squeezecenter / Settings /
Advanced / AlienBBC, mplayer is listed as installed. It is also shown as
an option in the dropdown menu in the filetypes tab. Apparently the
Extension downloader installed some mplayer on the Synology together
with AlienBBC.
Is
Extension Downloader does not install mplayer.
AlienBBC will try to install mplayer on Windows as the Windows binary
works on all Windows platforms. AlienBBC does not try to install
mplayer on Linux as processor and kernel can be different on different
systems.
Where did your mplayer come from
Hi everyone
I have seen quite a few posts about how to fix AlienBBC plugin issues,
but I have no clue about Linux, so I'm a bit lost.
I have installed the AlienBBC Plugin on my Synology DS408 using
Extension downloader. Then turned off Squeezecenter and turned it back
on. AlienBBC shows up under
For AlienBBC to play RealAudio streams - you need a build of mplayer
that runs on your Synology.
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I fortunately just stumbled over this thread after very nearly tearing
out all my remaining hairs when my old Squeezebox V1 suddenly ceased to
play BBC stations after I upgraded SC (V3 and SoftSqueeze were just
fine).
I can confirm that nothing other than modifying custom-convert.conf
will
What does this tell us? Does this point us towards a better solution?
Not sure except SlimMP3 is treated special.
In the logs there is a buffer threshold is shown to be 65535. I odn't
have a SlimMP3 but I have tried using a bufferThreshold routine) to get
buffer this low and I cannot.
Ok, thanks a million for all your help. Was great to have such instant
responses and things to try.
I will try the startup from the command line. I just open a command
window in the SC root directory and then run the .exe? I don't need any
command line parameters? I then just set the debug level
I think you will need to change directory to the SC server first and
then run squeezecenter.exe
Make sure you change the command window size (use menu from icon in top
left hand corner of command window) to something like 300 wide and 3000
long - that way you will save a lot of message.
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Thanks for replying, but actually this was my first recourse.
Unfortunately the link embedded in there for a standalone version-
MPlayer-v1.0rc2-4.2.1 doesn't work for me (at all). Just get the
Internet Expolrer reporting page no longer there.
So still
Help me here. I have the same Alien BBC problem with a Slimp3 but I
don't seem to be able to fix it as you suggest. I'm running:
Version: 7.3.2 - 24695 @ Mon Jan 19 18:55:04 PST 2009
on WinXP
I've created this custom-convert.conf in Program
Files\SqueezeCenter\server
flc mp3 * *
#
If you are hearing static - then it is a lame version problem.
Go back to original conf file.
Determine what version of lame you are running and add/remove -x
according to whether you are running 3.96.1 or later.
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It wasn't clear whether you edited the Alien custom-convert.conf file or
created your own and since you didn't say what was heard silence and
static are symptoms for two different problems. The advice below is
based on the fact you are on Windows and doing bit rate limiting.
First the flc
Sorry, I'm getting pretty confused now. I was looking for the Alien
plugin but of course everything has moved now. I was making a
custom-convert.conf in SqueezeCenter\server. I from the log (attached)
that the Alien plugin is over in \Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application
A clean unmodified AlienBBC installation with no bit rate limiting
should work with SliMP3. Try that first before doing anything mods or
changes.
If it plays silence (not static) - then get a log with player.source
set to INFO of trying to play a live stream.
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A clean install with no bitrate limiting is what I have.
Attached is the requested log file.
I am getting silence and not static.
Thanks
Alice
PS The log attachment in my the previous post might also useful.
+---+
|Filename:
Code:
09-04-04 00:24:52.6326] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (499) end of
file or error on socket, song pos: 0
This error message usually means mplayer, socketwrapper or lame is not
working.
Socketwrappper can be stopped by
1. Mplayer test works OK
2. Softsqueeze playing works OK. So does Squeezebox
How do I do what you suggest in 3?
I'm running AVG 8.5
Thanks
Alice
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Since case 2 Softsqueeze works OK then mplayer, socketwrapper and flac
are working. NO need to worry about security s/w
To test 3.
* Open WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes.
* There are 3 RTSP entries with dropdown boxes. Set the Flac and WAV
entries to disabled and you should be left with just
Ok, disabled the RTSP-WAV and RTSP-FLAC.
Plays OK in Softsqueeze
Still plays sliently in Slimp3.
Attached is the log file. The first play is for the Slimp3 and the
second is for Softsqueeze.
Thanks
Alice
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|Filename:
The log shows that there is something about the settings SC has used
when streaming to SlimMP3. The SoftSuqeeze test shopws the basic
command settings are correct.
At the moment I can only suggest two things to try.
1. Edit the custom-convert.conf file in Plugins/Alien and change the
RTSP-MP3
Changing the station timeout made no difference.
Changing the bitrate to 64K however did work. The Slimp3 now shows
'buffering xx%' and when it fills plays the station.
What does this tell us? Does this point us towards a better solution?
Thanks
Alice
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Story of frustration so far. Have finally got M-Player working via test
page and in recommended directory. However installation of Alien BBC
via extension downloader doesnt work -says its not findng m-player and
is trying to download (and failing). Should I install a different Alien
BBC version
Deleting and re-installing the m-player files got it too work. Very
happy and relieved.
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There is a standalone mplayer installation available here:
http://www.x2systems.com/AlienBBC/.
Neil
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Thanks for the link-it worked fine in terms of download. However all I
got was a bunch of files . Not sure what you are supposed to do with
them. You are probably rightly perceiving that IT stuff is not my
forte...
- Should I be using the extensions downloader from SB 7.3?
-Where should files
Problem seems to affect a few XP users. It is not clear why.
Here are the instruction for manual mplayer install.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=375052postcount=37
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Trying to load up new silent mini-PC with Alien BBC. However m-player
doesn't install correctly -I can see that the extension installer is
trying to download it. Further investigation in 'Settings- Advanced'
shows 'bad md5 checksum' . I have tried figuring out a manual download
per the Alien
Thank you for this last suggestion. I have installed the test version
and it is now working perfectly.
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When I try to listen to the most recent edition of a daily programme on
BBC Radio Jersey the more recent editions are not listed in the Alien
BBC menu, instead it lists an edition from 2 or 3 days previous. I
checked with the BBC web page and can see that the default is to group
programmes up by
There is a new test version in the plugin forum - I have posted a reply
to this thread with a link but the post has gone to be moderated. It
lookslike spam checking is too zealous.
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I just updated to SC 7.3.2 (w/module for Thecus 5200pro NAS). Installed
Alien BBC. The menus w/schedules and programming appear, but when I
select a show and hit play, the screen gets this message:unable to
play this type of file (or words to that effect).
Any idea what I have done wrong and
Did you use Extension Downloader to install AlienBBC ?
If yes, then it sounds like mplayer is not installed or mplayer.sh is
not executable by the SC user.
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Thanks, I did use the extension downloader.
How do I install the mplayer/mplayer.sh?
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mplayer.sh is part of AlienBBC - it is in the Plugins/Alien/Bin
directory. Check that is executable and owned by the same owner as
rest of Plugin. This should be the case when using Extension
Downloader but a check is worthwhile.
MPlayer is a media player see www.mplayerhq.hu . You need to
I'm getting this now too, no sound at all.
Its on FreeNas, squeezecenter 7.3.2.
I installed it, it showed in the plugins, then shutdown sc, removed the
contents of the alienBBC folder. Ticked the option for updates on
Extension Downloader and applied. Restarted sc, checked sc plugins and
its
Has alienbbc ever worked for you in Freenas ?
I thought freenas required special patches because it doesn't support
/dev/fd/3 device.
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bpa;396744 Wrote:
Has alienbbc ever worked for you in Freenas ?
I thought freenas required special patches because it doesn't support
/dev/fd/3 device.
No, this is my first time with freenas. I've just found a list of
something to do as a patch, but now cannot workout how to edit the
If you installed Alien via Extension Downloader then it will be in
different location ~/cache/Installed Plugins/Plugins/Alien - you can
see where by looking at the settings information page to see where
plugins are installed.
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Triode;396758 Wrote:
If you installed Alien via Extension Downloader then it will be in
different location ~/cache/Installed Plugins/Plugins/Alien - you can
see where by looking at the settings information page to see where
plugins are installed.
Right, found that cheers. Still no joy
That patch requires a special version of mplayer patched to allow output
to stdout. Have you installed the special version of mplayer ? I think
some users have referred to it as mplayer-stdout
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bpa;396803 Wrote:
That patch requires a special version of mplayer patched to allow output
to stdout. Have you installed the special version of mplayer ? I think
some users have referred to it as mplayer-stdout
No I haven't. I'll do a search now, thought that the correct mplayer
was already
The patches are all because of Freenas limitations compared to Linux.
Some NAS with similar limitations have to apply similar patches.
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bpa;396814 Wrote:
The patches are all because of Freenas limitations compared to Linux.
Some NAS with similar limitations have to apply similar patches.
By the look of things the patch required is simply the change to the
custom-convert.conf file as detailed below, which I've already done?
The custom-convert.conf filelooks like it is missing all the new conf
directives associated with erach conversion.
Example below - the addiotnal line is in red
Code:
rtsp wav * *
# R
[mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null -bandwidth 1000 -cache 128
bpa;396827 Wrote:
The custom-convert.conf filelooks like it is missing all the new conf
directives associated with erach conversion.
Example below - the addiotnal line is in red
Code:
rtsp wav * *
# R
[mplayer] -really-quiet -vc null -vo null
I copied the wrong conf file in the previous post but the issue about
the text in red is still correct.
When you patch files - you patch the changes and leave additions
/deletions alone.
In this case - take the custom-convert.conf of the installed AlienBBC
as the basis and just change the
bpa;396855 Wrote:
I copied the wrong conf file in the previous post but the issue about
the text in red is still correct.
When you patch files - you patch the changes and leave additions
/deletions alone.
In this case - take the custom-convert.conf of the installed AlienBBC
as the
It should have been installed in server/Plugins and not
server/Slim/Plugin.
However I cannot understand you running SSOTS on a Windows system as
C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\Slim\Plugin is a WIndows path and
not a path on an SSOTS device ?
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Thanks BPA
I think I have solved the problem.
I installed LAME in server-bin-MS32-x86-multi-thread instead of
directly into server-bin
Then I changed the RTSP files to MP3 disabled and enabled lame/flac.
Now the Alienbbc audio works fine, and I still have LAME at 320.
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What sort of player are you using ?
Did AlienBBC work for you before ? If so what version of Sc and
AlienBBC ?
What are the current settings for RTSP under WebUI
Settings/Advanced/FileTYpes
Do you have bit rate limiting enabled for your player ?
What security s/w are you using ?
Did you reboot
I am having similar trouble. Alienbbc seems to have as the connected as
the counter works. However there is no audio.
Does the installation of LAME have anything to do with it?
I have upgraded to Squeezecenter 7.3 and installed Alien
correctly.Nothing from Alien gives audio, although I can get
Yup. I have the same problem, but I think it's because the link here:
http://www.x2systems.com/AlienBBC/
for Install pack for Squeezecenter 7.3 actually downloads the one for
7.1/7.2 and then you get 'Plugin is incompatible with this version of
SqueezeCenter. Please update.' on the Plugins
On the same web page - look carefully - the first link for AlienBBC on
SqueezeCenter 7.3 - please see here. will bring to this page
http://www.x2systems.com/AlienBBC/installation.html
Which has the proper instructions about installing on 7.3 using
Extensions Dowbnloader/
I think the other 7.3
Thanks. That works a treat. The missus will be pleased at being able to
use it again, since it's the only thing technological she truly
approves of.
Squibbly
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Thanks for your reply vdeknock.
I'd never had problems until I upgraded everything: 1GB Disk + latest
version of QNAP Firmware. The SSOTS promised to make it all so much
simpler, and would have been too if I was using my proper network.
I was hoping to use the automated Extension
I just installed squeezecenter 7.33 becasue I wanted to play Ogg files.
It works fine, but now Alien BBC won't work. It acts like its
connecting but there's no audio.
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Works OK for me on 24919.
Connection Timeout is usually a network or security issue especially as
the test only uses mplayer and does not involve SC.
With windows - I suggest reboot the PC just in case there is some
caching issues. Then check security which could be blocking port 554
It must have been a network issue with my ISP (ATT) as it's working
fine this morning.
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Extension Downloader is even easier as it allows you to do automatic
updates and just a restart gets the new version running. With the
restart I find it tends to fail to start the first time, but pressing
start again and all is working like a charm.
I find that I still get some buffering issues
The version you installed is for 7.1 and 7.2.
On 7.3.x the easiest way to install AlienBBC is to use the Extensions
Downloader plugin (see Settings/Plugins/Extensions Downloader/settings)
For SSOTS you will need to do the necessary mods to the
custom-convert.conf files. You should search the
bpa;393787 Wrote:
The version you installed is for 7.1 and 7.2.
On 7.3.x the easiest way to install AlienBBC is to use the Extensions
Downloader plugin (see Settings/Plugins/Extensions Downloader/settings)
For SSOTS you will need to do the necessary mods to the
custom-convert.conf
If you system cannot resolve www.squeezenetwork.com then you have other
network/config problems on your system and network. After setting the
IP address for squeezenetwork, you will just hit more address which
will not resolve.
If you wish to go for the manual install recent alienbbc builds
Thanks for the tips - if anyone's interested the following steps have
fixed my problem:
Go to Public and delete the contents of the Plugins Folder.
Replace this with the latest version of Alien BBC. The link to it is:
http://alienbbc.googlecode.com/files/alienbbc-linux-v2.4a4-7.3.zip
Once you
Hi Guys,
I hope I'm not repeating something that's in another thread (I
certainly couldn't find the same topic, but my apologies if I am).
I recently used the QPKG facility on my QNAP TS-109 to install SSOTS.
The version number is: SSOTS_3.15_TS-109
Following the instructions I installed
2 problems.
1. Nothing works. SqueezeCenter appears to load the stream but when
you hit play it goes back to stop after 2 or 3 seconds. No sound comes
out.
2. If you select Listen Again A-Z no programs are found under any
letter.
The new iPlayer plug in works but I want Alien BBC to work as
How about some details
1. Which version of AlienBBC ?
2. How did you install AlienBBC
3. What do you mean by Nothing works
- Is there an AlienBBC entry in Settings/Plugins ?
- Are there RTSP entrries in Settings/Advanced/Filetypes
- Is there an AlienBBC menu under Internet radio ?
- Can you
bpa;389034 Wrote:
The no items programs is a bug - this is usually happens when BBC
makes a change to their web site design - I'll look into it.
The main World Service is an omission from the live streams, it got
lost after an update.
I have tracked down the URL for Newshour and it is
Under InterNet Radio/World/National Networks/BBC/World Service
You have choice of the many different BBC world services.
The no items programs is a bug - this is usually happens when BBC
makes a change to their web site design - I'll look into it.
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Hi,
I'm running SqueezeCentzer 7.3 on a Win XP with SP3. The PC is a music
Server with AMD Geode 500 and 1 GB.
I installed SqueezeCenter two days ago and it works fine. I can operate
my Boom and my Squeezebox 3, which is linked to my Stereo. But I cannot
listen to BBC from home (which is in
Trying to change the programme on Boom directly, it says No items
found in playlist.
Can you be more explicit and precise.
I have seem a occasional problem where the No items found in playlist
appears (last week it used to happen with Radio4/categories/Comedy) but
it is transient so I
Hi,
thanx again.
But tricky answer of yours.
bpa;388801 Wrote:
Can you increase a timer - in WebUI Settings/Advanced/Network/Radio
Station Timeout - change to 20 secs.
Yes I did.
bpa;388801 Wrote:
You said AlienBBC works when you choose a station from the WebUI but
not from the Boom
Thank you.
As for me, thread is closed.
Jereem
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