Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread Greg Erskine
I think from a third party software (piCorePlayer) perspective it is important we do not cause excessive support issues for Logitech (Michael). Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread Cut-Throat
mherger wrote: > > As one of the people that was 'Complaining', I will try to explain > why > > complaining was the last thing I wanted to do. > > Don't worry. As far as I know you were not among those insulting me in > French :-). > > I think you've given the perfect example of why the step

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread Michael Herger
As one of the people that was 'Complaining', I will try to explain why complaining was the last thing I wanted to do. Don't worry. As far as I know you were not among those insulting me in French :-). I think you've given the perfect example of why the step Paul took (thanks again!) was the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread Michael Herger
The default install has been downgraded to 7.9.3 Thanks! -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread Cut-Throat
mherger wrote: > > > The point is that people who complain but don't run the latest code are > causing work. They're wasting my and other's time. Because they complain > > about "issues" which wouldn't be there if they had updated their system. > > Therefore nobody should be running LMS8

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread castalla
Right. I stand corrected, then ... as long as the update works, I'm happy. LMS server: O2 Joggler with Jivelite, Pi Zero W with PcP 6.0 Amp: Denon PMA-50 Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread paul-
Doing the manual step is only needed once, then you are on 8.0.0, and the nightly process resumes fine. (As long as I didn't break my update script when updating it to allow manual selection of a release version) piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread Michael Herger
So, the few Qobuz users get priority, then. No. But the small number they might be, they showed how only a few people can cause a lot of work. Now imagine I did a similar change in Spotty. Or Craig did in his Material skin. We'd probably have hundreds of mails that day. Not because something

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread castalla
mherger wrote: > > Put 8.0.0 back, you don't need to keep updating to the latest nightly > if > > you don't want to. > > You can always install 8.0 if you want. But really: the past week and > only the few Qobuz users have shown how problematic it is if you run > LMS8 at this point but don't

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread Michael Herger
Put 8.0.0 back, you don't need to keep updating to the latest nightly if you don't want to. You can always install 8.0 if you want. But really: the past week and only the few Qobuz users have shown how problematic it is if you run LMS8 at this point but don't update daily. I've received more

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread slartibartfast
kidstypike wrote: > +1 > > Put 8.0.0 back, you don't need to keep updating to the latest nightly if > you don't want to.Max2Play had a drop down box where the required version was > chosen. Is that not possible with piCorePlayer? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread kidstypike
castalla wrote: > Grr! The update feature was VERY useful. > > IMHO - caving in was a retrograde step towards a few people +1 Put 8.0.0 back, you don't need to keep updating to the latest nightly if you don't want to. *Server - LMS 8.0.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Flirc case/pCP 6.1.0 - 74K

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread castalla
paul- wrote: > The default install has been downgraded to 7.9.3 > > This of course renders the nightly update button useless. As there are > no updates to release versions. When a new release comes out, you will > have to install it the manual way. Grr! The update feature was VERY

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-29 Thread paul-
The default install has been downgraded to 7.9.3 This of course renders the nightly update button useless. As there are no updates to release versions. When a new release comes out, you will have to install it the manual way. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM.

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Cut-Throat
paul- wrote: > Because that is not how package management works. I gave you the > procedures how to do it. > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112843-PiCorePlayer-June-6th-Download-pCP6-1-0-Standard-Version-LMS-8-0=986511=1#post986511 > > Yes, you did give me that and Thanks

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread paul-
Because that is not how package management works. I gave you the procedures how to do it. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?112843-PiCorePlayer-June-6th-Download-pCP6-1-0-Standard-Version-LMS-8-0=986511=1#post986511 Alright, I'm getting exhausted. I will change the default back

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Cut-Throat
mherger wrote: > > So, if I'm setting someone up with an RPi, which version should I > > download? > > 7.9.3 > > If they want to have the latest and greatest and all the thrill that > comes with it, tell them how to insall 8.0 on their own. If they can't > handle it, then they're not ready

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Michael Herger
So, if I'm setting someone up with an RPi, which version should I download? 7.9.3 If they want to have the latest and greatest and all the thrill that comes with it, tell them how to insall 8.0 on their own. If they can't handle it, then they're not ready for 8.0. -- Michael

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Man in a van
Cut-Throat wrote: > So, if I'm setting someone up with an RPi, which version should I > download? > Do I have to go back to 5.0 ? When I want a different version, I make a new image, expand the file system and do the default install. On completion of the install and before even opening the

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Cut-Throat
mherger wrote: > >> Whichever LMS version you end up with, if it works okay, just > disable > >> software updates. > > > > I thought the problem was that we were not updating it enough? > > Yep. If you're not willing to update, then don't install a development > version. > > -- > >

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Michael Herger
Whichever LMS version you end up with, if it works okay, just disable software updates. I thought the problem was that we were not updating it enough? Yep. If you're not willing to update, then don't install a development version. -- Michael ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Cut-Throat
kidstypike wrote: > Whichever LMS version you end up with, if it works okay, just disable > software updates. > > I thought the problem was that we were not updating it enough? Cut-Throat's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread kidstypike
Cut-Throat wrote: > I think the regular 'Joes' out there that I am helping install, just > want to get some music going. They are so far from wanting new > features... Ideally, the PiCorePlayer download page would have a > 'Frozen' version of LMS and there would be an >

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Cut-Throat
paul- wrote: > The main reason that I added LMS8 as the default install, was the > majority of folks wanting all of the new Music library stuff with > Spotty. If I revert to 7.9.3, then those new features go away. Its a > no win scenario for me. I think the regular 'Joes' out there that I

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Michael Herger
The main reason that I added LMS8 as the default install, was the majority of folks wanting all of the new Music library stuff with Spotty. If I revert to 7.9.3, then those new features go away. Its a no win scenario for me. The problem I'm seeing is that many users probably aren't aware of

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread paul-
Cut-Throat wrote: > But, from what I understand, if you go to the PCP Download page and get > the Standard 6.1 release, this will automatically give you > LMS8 when you install LMS So, When I told this guy to download 6.1, > he had no idea he was using a development release. > So, what

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Michael Herger
But, from what I understand, if you go to the PCP Download page and get the Standard 6.1 release, this will automatically give you LMS8 when you install LMS So, When I told this guy to download 6.1, he had no idea he was using a development release. So, what should he have downloaded? Yes,

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-28 Thread Cut-Throat
mherger wrote: > > From reading other thread its possibly latest Qobuz plugin update > with > > LMS8.0 having problems.. I still got older Qobuz plugin (prev > version) > > with LMS 8.0 and it works fine. > > The problem is people using LMS8, but not updating it. Qobuz does work > fine if

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread Michael Herger
From reading other thread its possibly latest Qobuz plugin update with LMS8.0 having problems.. I still got older Qobuz plugin (prev version) with LMS 8.0 and it works fine. The problem is people using LMS8, but not updating it. Qobuz does work fine if you're running the latest LMS8, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread paul-
ItÂ’s shown on the plugin manager. To downgrade, You would have to have an old version of the plugin in zip format, and install manually. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate'

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread Cut-Throat
Jaca wrote: > From reading other thread its possibly latest Qobuz plugin update with > LMS8.0 having problems.. I still got older Qobuz plugin (prev version) > with LMS 8.0 and it works fine. How can you tell what version of the Qobuz Pluggin that you have? And is it possible to downgrade a

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread Cut-Throat
paul- wrote: > Lms is not on the image, it is downloaded from the repo when you press > the install button. OK, that makes sense. Cut-Throat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43167 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread paul-
Lms is not on the image, it is downloaded from the repo when you press the install button. piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate'

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread Cut-Throat
paul- wrote: > Lms 8 is the default for and pCP 6xx install. > > If you want to downgrade to 7.9.3. > > https://www.picoreplayer.org/how_to_upgrade_lms.shtml So, the 6.1 release that I have loaded on my Rpi is different than the 6.1 release on the downloads page?

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread Jaca
Cut-Throat wrote: > Well, I'm confused I had the guy I was helping go back to the March > Download of PCP.. He is still getting the LMS 8.0 Release in that > download.. > > Not sure where the LMS release is stored. Believe it or not, I was a > software developer, but these

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread paul-
Lms 8 is the default for and pCP 6xx install. If you want to downgrade to 7.9.3. https://www.picoreplayer.org/how_to_upgrade_lms.shtml piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org Please 'donate'

Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread Cut-Throat
Well, I'm confused I had the guy I was helping go back to the March Download of PCP.. He is still getting the LMS 8.0 Release in that download.. Not sure where the LMS release is stored. Believe it or not, I was a software developer, but these releases don't make sense to me.

[SlimDevices: Plugins] PiCorePlayer June 6th Download - pCP6.1.0 Standard Version - LMS 8.0 ?

2020-08-27 Thread Cut-Throat
OK, I was helping a guy today that could not get Qobuz Functioning properly. I finally checked his LMS release and it was 8.0 - from the version above downloaded. I had downloaded this version a couple months ago and my LMS Version reads 7.9.2 So, I downloaded this version again and was able