Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Last lines of server.log[image: You do know that you can copy/paste text?... that's simpler than a screenshot - and would be shown in my mail client :-). 502 Bad Gateway most likely is a temporary hiccup, and usually an issue on the server side (in this case Spotify's). Would you get the same message again now? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
mherger wrote: > > Spotify version: 8.4.39.673 on Android also. > > Have you tried Spotify support/forums? There definitely seems to be an > issue with the Android build. At least for three of you :-) > > > Since my last post there was no Squeezebox player visible as a Connect > > player anymore. Tried an iPad but also no luck. Rebooted the windows > 10 > > server; installed LMS updates; switched players with no success. > > This rather sounds like the Spotty deamon crashing. Did you check the > server.log? > > > The iPad (with another family account) still shows no connected > > squeezebox. > > This would happen if Spotty crashed because of the local discovery mode. > > In this case Spotty would disable that mode, rendering devices > accessible to users with the same account only. Can you check whether > that option is checked in the settings? > > -- > > MichaelRe contacting Spotify support, I actually saw what appeared to be the same issue with the Echo Dot when I accidentally hadn't allowed permissions to the app and contacted Spotify about it. I quickly received the following reply "Thanks for reaching out to us. We'd love for you to enjoy the Spotify app without any hiccups, so let's work this out :) We appreciate you sending us the screenshot of the error. It helped a lot. As much as we'd love to help you on our end, but this type of issue you're having seems to be one that Amazon would be better to help you with." Based on that I am not hopeful of a more helpful response when the Squeezebox isn't officially supported by them anymore. It is strange that the latest Spotify app was working for all of us until this issue appeared.. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Last lines of server.log[image: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180216/61cc9c8a558ee5802b63c766260b14e7.jpg] Verstuurd vanaf mijn ASUS Chromebook Flip C101PA met Tapatalk LMS (latest nightly) on Windows 10 as a Server (and Raspberry PiCoreplayer as backup LMS) Squeexebox Touch Squeezebox Boom Squeezebox Radio Squeezebox Classic Picoreplayer's Nomen Nescio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Spotify version: 8.4.39.673 on Android also. Have you tried Spotify support/forums? There definitely seems to be an issue with the Android build. At least for three of you :-) Since my last post there was no Squeezebox player visible as a Connect player anymore. Tried an iPad but also no luck. Rebooted the windows 10 server; installed LMS updates; switched players with no success. This rather sounds like the Spotty deamon crashing. Did you check the server.log? The iPad (with another family account) still shows no connected squeezebox. This would happen if Spotty crashed because of the local discovery mode. In this case Spotty would disable that mode, rendering devices accessible to users with the same account only. Can you check whether that option is checked in the settings? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
And after switching to a third account on android the connected squeezebox is lost weird. LMS (latest nightly) on Windows 10 as a Server (and Raspberry PiCoreplayer as backup LMS) Squeexebox Touch Squeezebox Boom Squeezebox Radio Squeezebox Classic Picoreplayer's Nomen Nescio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
d6jg wrote: > Pippin > 6s with zoomed here > Reset to standard > Issue gone > I prefer zoomed though Yes, Im just trying to reproduce this. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] iPeng support thread
Pippin 6s with zoomed here Reset to standard Issue gone I prefer zoomed though PI3 PCP/LMS STORAGE QNAP TS419P (NFS) *Living Room* - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s *Office* - Pi3+Sreen -> Sony TAFE320 -> Celestion F10s / Pi2+DAC & SB3 -> Onkyo CRN755 -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes *Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* - Pi2+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV)* - SB Touch ->Sherwood AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s Everything controlled by iPeng d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
slartibartfast wrote: > Hmm I find it crashes sometimes. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Yes, crashed a couple of times just after install, I've just left it playing, we'll see. :rolleyes: *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 -* Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - Pi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3 > HiFiBerry AMP+/retro radio *Garage* - Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22 > Edifier R980T *In car* - LMS 7.9.1 > RPi3/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's hifi (files on a 2TB portable USB drive) *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 1xBoom kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
kidstypike wrote: > Yes, 6.9.0.1212 working perfectly for me too. :confused:Hmm I find it crashes > sometimes. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
slartibartfast wrote: > This is interesting. I tried Spotify version 7.9... and I couldn't > even switch TO a squeezebox. Then I tried 6.9.0.1212armv7 and that works > perfectly. I think it dates back to late 2016. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Yes, 6.9.0.1212 working perfectly for me too. :confused: *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 -* Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - Pi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3 > HiFiBerry AMP+/retro radio *Garage* - Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22 > Edifier R980T *In car* - LMS 7.9.1 > RPi3/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's hifi (files on a 2TB portable USB drive) *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 1xBoom kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] My cheap Squeezebox player - how can I automate startup?
bakker_be wrote: > Probably not what you want to hear when you aready have made your choice > for Squeezer + Squeeze Player, but Squeeze Control + SB Player allow you > to do exactly what you want. Squeeze Control can be configured to > automatically launch SB Player on starting, but most importantly, SB > Player can be configured to start along with your device, and at the > same time launch Squeeze Control (or even Squeezer for that matter). > Bluetooth is actually even simpler. It should restart in the state it > was in when powering down the phone, and if the bluetoot speaker is > powered on, it will connect automagically :) Thanks. I may give them a try. You mean the two apps from Angry Goat, right? I had seen them but was still experimenting for ""free"... Time to splash out $10! Cough's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108678 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Note: before I saw none connected players. Can you see the connected player in Windows store Spotify app? LMS (latest nightly) on Windows 10 as a Server (and Raspberry PiCoreplayer as backup LMS) Squeexebox Touch Squeezebox Boom Squeezebox Radio Squeezebox Classic Picoreplayer's Nomen Nescio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
mherger wrote: > > I can switch using the Windows Spotify application as well but it > isn't > > what I would generally use. > > So you'd agree that the issue is only seen using the Spotify app on > Android? I tried to bring my old tablet back to life earlier today. The > Spotify app installed did work as expected (switching between Android > app, Chromcast, Spotty, iPhone). Alas, I've yet to see the updated > version. It took the poor device half an hour to download the update, > but I've never got to see it running before I had to leave... what > Spotify app version are you guys running? > > -- > > MichaelThis is interesting. I tried Spotify version 7.9... and I couldn't even switch TO a squeezebox. Then I tried 6.9.0.1212armv7 and that works perfectly. I think it dates back to late 2016. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
For now... Yes. >From Squeezebox touch (synchronized with others) to Mibox and Google home mini and back. Verstuurd vanaf mijn U20_Plus met Tapatalk LMS (latest nightly) on Windows 10 as a Server (and Raspberry PiCoreplayer as backup LMS) Squeexebox Touch Squeezebox Boom Squeezebox Radio Squeezebox Classic Picoreplayer's Nomen Nescio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Nomen Nescio wrote: > Spotify version: 8.4.39.673 on Android also. > Since my last post there was no Squeezebox player visible as a Connect > player anymore. Tried an iPad but also no luck. Rebooted the windows 10 > server; installed LMS updates; switched players with no success. > > A few minutes ago I tried the Windows Store App on a Windows 10 machine > (not the server) and voila! My squeezebox touch showed up to my > surprise. > > 24572 > > After that also in the android app. > > 24573 > > The iPad (with another family account) still shows no connected > squeezebox.Can you switch from a squeezebox to anything else in the Android > app? That is the main issue others are seeing. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Spotify version: 8.4.39.673 on Android also. Since my last post there was no Squeezebox player visible as a Connect player anymore. Tried an iPad but also no luck. Rebooted the windows 10 server; installed LMS updates; switched players with no success. A few minutes ago I tried the Windows Store App on a Windows 10 machine (not the server) and voila! My squeezebox touch showed up to my surprise. 24572 After that also in the android app. 24573 The iPad (with another family account) still shows no connected squeezebox. +---+ |Filename: Screenshot_20180215-19.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24573| +---+ LMS (latest nightly) on Windows 10 as a Server (and Raspberry PiCoreplayer as backup LMS) Squeexebox Touch Squeezebox Boom Squeezebox Radio Squeezebox Classic Picoreplayer's Nomen Nescio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Spotify version: 8.4.39.673 armV7 *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 -* Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - Pi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3 > HiFiBerry AMP+/retro radio *Garage* - Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22 > Edifier R980T *In car* - LMS 7.9.1 > RPi3/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's hifi (files on a 2TB portable USB drive) *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 1xBoom kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
I can switch using the Windows Spotify application as well but it isn't what I would generally use. So you'd agree that the issue is only seen using the Spotify app on Android? I tried to bring my old tablet back to life earlier today. The Spotify app installed did work as expected (switching between Android app, Chromcast, Spotty, iPhone). Alas, I've yet to see the updated version. It took the poor device half an hour to download the update, but I've never got to see it running before I had to leave... what Spotify app version are you guys running? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
mherger wrote: > > What I can't do is switch from a Squeezebox to anything else. > > _that_ is what is working fine for me. I can switch between phone, > Chromecast and Spotty based device as I want - using the iOS and macOS > Spotify applications. > > -- > > Michael I can switch using the Windows Spotify application as well but it isn't what I would generally use. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
You don't need a recent Android. I found the same with a Nexus 7 (2012) tablet. The latest I have is stuck at Android 3.x... -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
What I can't do is switch from a Squeezebox to anything else. _that_ is what is working fine for me. I can switch between phone, Chromecast and Spotty based device as I want - using the iOS and macOS Spotify applications. -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
slartibartfast wrote: > What do you mean by worked fine? I can switch between the phone and the > echo dot and probably the Chromecast as well. I can also switch to a > Squeezebox as well but with " now playing screen" issues mentioned > before. What I can't do is switch from a Squeezebox to anything else. > > Sent from my SM-G900F using TapatalkYou don't need a recent Android. I found > the same with a Nexus 7 (2012) tablet. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
mherger wrote: > > Echo dot and Chromecast. > > Tried with a Chromecast Audio, and it worked perfectly fine. > > Unfortunately I don't have any decent (recent) Android device. Must ask > an office buddy if he could lend me his... > > -- > > MichaelWhat do you mean by worked fine? I can switch between the phone and the echo dot and probably the Chromecast as well. I can also switch to a Squeezebox as well but with " now playing screen" issues mentioned before. What I can't do is switch from a Squeezebox to anything else. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
kidstypike wrote: > Can you see the button to show the "Now Playing" screen? > > 24568 No, that whole bar is missing. //Johan Windows 10 LMS 7.9.1 Intel Compute Stick ButC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57330 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
I'd just like to add that the Spotify Windows desktop app works fine, switching back and forth between "This Computer" to a "Boom" or a "squeezelite player on a pi" without any problem. *Study/Server - LMS 7.9.1 -* Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22/jivelite, 25K library on WDMyCloud, cache and playlists on a USB stick (formatted ntfs). *Lounge* - Pi 2/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3 > HiFiBerry AMP+/retro radio *Garage* - Pi3/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/piCorePlayer 3.22 > Edifier R980T *In car* - LMS 7.9.1 > RPi3/Max2Play > HiFiBerry DAC+ > car's hifi (files on a 2TB portable USB drive) *Spares* - 1xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 1xBoom kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
Echo dot and Chromecast. Tried with a Chromecast Audio, and it worked perfectly fine. Unfortunately I don't have any decent (recent) Android device. Must ask an office buddy if he could lend me his... -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
mherger wrote: > > All of these have the same issues so it looks like something Spotify > > have changed at their end. > > What other (non-Spotty) Connect endpoints are you using? > > -- > > MichaelEcho dot and Chromecast. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
All of these have the same issues so it looks like something Spotify have changed at their end. What other (non-Spotty) Connect endpoints are you using? -- Michael ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] [Announce] Spotty 2.0.0 - Spotify Connect for your Squeezebox
mherger wrote: > > I wonder how we can troubleshoot this. > > You're both on Android. Are you running the latest Spotify app? > > slartibartfast - where is your LMS living (you might have mentioned this > > before...)? > > -- > > MichaelI have tried Windows 7 and max2play servers Spotty 2.1.9 and 2.1.0 Latest Spotify app and a couple of earlier versions All of these have the same issues so it looks like something Spotify have changed at their end. Also Kidstypike's system was working two days ago and now he has the same player switching issue. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108561 ___ plugins mailing list plugins@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/plugins
