Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2020-05-25 Thread bpa


geekshow wrote: 
> Thanks for all the comments above, helped me sort an issue where today
> for some reason all the BBC presenters had deeper voices.
> 
> Checked the File Types settings, but all were set at default.
> 
> *Fixed the issue in the BBC iPlayer settings by changing the default
> stream from HLS to DASH*. After changing this, I noticed when playing a
> BBC stream it was no-longer being transcoded from AAC to PCM, I guess
> this is what to watch out for.
> 
> I'm using piCorePlayer v6.0.0, LMS 7.9.2, iPlayer v1.6.8
Doesn't really explain the problem  - both HLS and DASH have 48kHz
streams and follow same audio paths.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2020-05-25 Thread geekshow


Thanks for all the comments above, helped me sort an issue where today
for some reason all the BBC presenters had deeper voices.

Checked the File Types settings, but all were set at default.

*Fixed the issue in the BBC iPlayer settings by changing the default
stream from HLS to DASH*. After changing this, I noticed when playing a
BBC stream it was no-longer being transcoded from AAC to PCM, I guess
this is what to watch out for.

I'm using piCorePlayer v6.0.0, LMS 7.9.2, iPlayer v1.6.8



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-03-01 Thread mikebainbridge

All seems well with aac encoded 44.1 files - I'll have to look for
streaming later as all the stations I listen to had the 48 'problem' !

Thanks again !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-03-01 Thread bpa

mikebainbridge wrote: 
> This works perfectly with no server load problems my cursory look so far
> can tell. I'll look for something more formal to really check but I'm up
> and running at the right speed for sure.
> 
> "Top" shows about 23% processor usage by sox while running but no
> dropouts or pauses for the whole 30 minute programme.

Good that it works.  Your system has a 4 core processor with "hard
float" Linux  so it should be able to keep up with necessary resampling
without too much load.  

As "sox" will be included when playing all AAC stream to the SB1 - you
should check that AAC files/streams with 44.1kHz are not affected - sox
should see source is 44.1kHz and do no processing.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-28 Thread mikebainbridge

We 'crossed in the post'

SUCCESS !!

The latest string did the trick (once I'd realised that I hadn't changed
the Mac address to mine) - A massive 'thank you'

This works perfectly with no server load problems my cursory look so far
can tell. I'll look for something more formal to really check but I'm up
and running at the right speed for sure.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-28 Thread mikebainbridge

I've captured the log anyway just in case the change to the settings
sheds any light- The log certainly looks different - I started the World
at One R4 on demand at 13.05 local time. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-28 Thread bpa

I must have pasted an old version - the following is custom-convert.conf
that work. I had lost the "--ignore-length" option on sox.


Code:



  aac pcm * aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
  # IF
  [faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$ | [sox] -q --ignore-length -t wav $FILE$ -t raw 
-r 44100 -c 2 -2 -s -
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-28 Thread bpa

I tested the suggested custom-convert.conf before and I thought it
worked.

I just I retested using the lines I had posted and I get same failure as
you get. So I need to backtrack.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-28 Thread bpa

Can you get a log with player.source=DEBUG playing a "on-Demand" program
from the BBCiPlayer menu (i.e. not from Extra and not live)

I want to do a direct compare against log which works on my system.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-28 Thread mikebainbridge

Thanks again for your time

Both faad and sox are there - banners below

FAAD -[/B] 

*** AHEAD SOFTWARE MPEG-4 AAC DECODER V2.7 **

PATCHED FOR SQUEEZEBOX SERVER:
* ALAC DECODER INTEGRATED
* SEEKING SUPPORT WITH -J AND -E SWITCHES
* STDIN SUPPORT
* UTGG WIN32 STDOUT PATCH
* SOURCE AT HTTPS://GITHUB.COM/RALPH-IRVING/FAAD2

BUILD: APR  6 2017
COPYRIGHT 2002-2004: AHEAD SOFTWARE AG
HTTP://WWW.AUDIOCODING.COM
FLOATING POINT VERSION
ETC.

[B]SOX

sox: SoX v14.3.1

Changed settings to Dash First
Re-enabled custom-cconvert.conf

Restarted server

Still same problem - Connecting / Now playing / Back to rest

Settings are:
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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-28 Thread bpa

>From the log below the conf file is OK and it has executed the correct
command line.  The problem is the command line does not seem to run on
your system.

Check whether the faad and sox actually run on your system, try the
following at a shell prompt - you should get banner lines.

/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/armhf-linux/faad
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/armhf-linux/sox

You are playing HLS format streams.  As I have no reference system for
HLS streams, I don't support using HLS so there may be a problem with
timing when streaming and then running faad/sox on ARM processor. 
Please set preferences to use DASH first.



Code:


  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1082] Slim::Player::Song::open (363) 
hls://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b09smgt9/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http|
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1095] Slim::Player::Song::open (387) seek=false time=0 
canSeek=1
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1104] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) 
Checking formats for: aac-aif-squeezebox-00:04:20:05:90:fc
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1108] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) 
Checking formats for: aac-aif-*-00:04:20:05:90:fc
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1113] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) 
Checking formats for: aac-aif-squeezebox-*
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1117] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) 
Checking formats for: aac-aif-*-*
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1121] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) 
Checking formats for: aac-pcm-squeezebox-00:04:20:05:90:fc
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1125] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) 
Checking formats for: aac-pcm-*-00:04:20:05:90:fc
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1130] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (209) 
Checking to see if aac-pcm-*-00:04:20:05:90:fc is enabled
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1134] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (250)
enabled
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1138] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (252)   
Found command: [faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav $FILE$ -t raw -r 
44100 -c 2 -2 -s -
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1145] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand2 
(446) Matched: aac->pcm via: [faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav 
$FILE$ -t raw -r 44100 -c 2 -2 -s -
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1151] Slim::Player::Song::open (408) Transcoder: 
streamMode=I, streamformat=pcm
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1157] Slim::Player::Song::open (461) Opening stream (no 
direct streaming) using Plugins::BBCiPlayer::HLS 
[hls://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b09smgt9/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http|]
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1183] Slim::Player::Song::open (482) URL is a song 
(audio): 
hls://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/redir/version/2.0/vpid/b09smgt9/mediaset/audio-syndication/proto/http|,
 type=aac
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1193] 
Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::tokenizeConvertCommand2 (617) Using command 
for conversion: "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/armhf-linux/faad" -q -w -f 1 
-b 1 - | "/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/armhf-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t raw 
-r 44100 -c 2 -2 -s -
  [18-02-28 12:01:30.1199] Slim::Player::Song::open (558) Tokenized command: 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/armhf-linux/faad" -q -w -f 1 -b 1 - | 
"/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Bin/armhf-linux/sox" -q -t wav - -t raw -r 44100 
-c 2 -2 -s -
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-27 Thread mikebainbridge

Many thanks for the super-fast response. Apologies for my
misinterpretation of your instructions.

1. Original convert.conf put back 
2. New custom-convert.conf created and saved as per instructions :set
list seems to show just NL which I think is what is required. (file
attached)
3. Server re-started
4. Debug player.source enabled from Server settings / Advanced / Logging
[apply]
5. Attempted to run BBC R4 on demand - same as before: 'Connecting' on
screen a brief flick of 'now playing' and then back to resting state.
6. 30 second wait and log file zipped and downloaded from web interface
(attached)
7. Debug turned off and applied


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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-27 Thread bpa

mikebainbridge wrote: 
> 1. Removed previous line with MAC address
> 2. Added this line - note I removed the double space before the first
> pipe and before the second $FILES in your example
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > aac pcm Squeezebox *
  > # IF
  > [faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav $FILE$ -t raw -r 44100 -c 2 
-2 -s -
  > 

> > 
> 
> 3. Squeezebox runs but slow so it's not "seeing" the name
> 
> Thanks for helping though - I'm going to have to do some reading as
> this is not in my field of expertise - Happy to try any suggestions
> and if I come up with something I'll be sure to post !

It "feels" like a syntax error in your custom-convert.conf file.

Attach your custom-convert.conf file to a post so I can check - spaces
and tabs and end-of-line are critical (i.e a file edited on Windows
editor often have incorrect end of line sequence)

Use the MAC address version - that is guaranteed to work. Don't use the
"Squeezebox" one as I couldn't test that - e.g. there may be a case or
spelling issue.

Check what is being executed by enabling logging  player.source to debug
and then try to play a BBC station.  Note time of start of test, wait 30
secs and copy from log every line between start of test until end into a
text file, zip and attach to a post.  Do NOT edit any out - sometimes
missing lines



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-27 Thread mikebainbridge

1. Removed previous line with MAC address
2. Added this line - note I removed the double space before the first
pipe and before the second $FILES in your example


Code:

aac pcm Squeezebox *
  # IF
  [faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav $FILE$ -t raw -r 44100 -c 2 
-2 -s -
  



3. Squeezebox runs but slow so it's not "seeing" the name

Thanks for helping though - I'm going to have to do some reading as this
is not in my field of expertise - Happy to try any suggestions and if I
come up with something I'll be sure to post !



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-27 Thread mikebainbridge

Many thanks for this @BPM 
Server is max2play 2.45 running on Odroid  U2

1. Copied /etc/squeezeboxserver/convert.conf to convert.conf.safe
2. Added lines you suggested as below into convert.conf after existing
entry

Code:


  aac pcm * *
  # IF
  [faad] -q -w -f 2 -b 1 $FILE$
  
  aac pcm * 00:04:20:05:90:fc
  # IF
  [faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav $FILE$ -t raw -r 44100 -c 2 
-2 -s -
  



3. Re-started Squeezeboxserver
4. Tried the BBC R4 'on demand' - "Connecting" displayed briefly then
back to resting current time display
5. Same for live (overseas)

I'll now try the second suggestion



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-25 Thread bpa

mikebainbridge wrote: 
> I have the same problem but it limited to only one device - My very
> first Slim Devices Squeezebox running firmware 40. iPlayer is v1.5.3 and
> LMS is 7.9.1 . All AAC file settings are 'on' and my 2 Picore players, 2
> ipads and 2 iphones all play at the correct speed. It's most frustrating
> as after many years of not working with Spotify the Spotty plugin as
> brought it new life ! Any thoughts apart from 'get a more modern
> device?'

The player with firmware 40 is a SB1 which cannot play AAC natively and
cannot play Flac so AAC is transcoded into 48KHz PCM which has no header
so SB1 plays it has 44.1Khz.  I'm not clear what you are talking about
wrt Spotty as this a BBCiPlayer thread.

That is the problem and has been true for all files & stream 48kHz AAC
on SB1 - not just BBCiPlayer and known for a long time (
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?6405-48KHz-playback )

AFAICT no solution has been posted over the years.  

The only solution I can think of is to add sox in the "AAC-> PCM"
trasncoding for SB1  to ensure a 44.1kHz but this will put a load on the
LMS processor.
No details on your LMS server - so the following is for a Linux based
server. 
If lines below are edited to use correct MAC address  (i.e. replace with
AMAC of  your SB1)  and then saved in a custom-convert.conf file (make
sure tabs are saved as tabs and not spaces) in the same directory as the
LMS convert.conf file then after LMS restart LMS will always convert AAC
streams to the device with MAC address into 44.1Khz streams. 

MAC address of player can be found in LMS WebUI Setting/Information tab
or on label of player.


Code:


  
  aac pcm * aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff
# IF
[faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav $FILE$ -t raw -r 44100 
-c 2 -2 -s -
  



In theory for all SB1 type devices - the following would work.

Code:


  
  aac pcm Squeezebox *
# IF
[faad] -q -w -f 1 -b 1 $FILE$  | [sox] -q -t wav  $FILE$ -t raw -r 
44100 -c 2 -2 -s -
  




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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-24 Thread mikebainbridge

I have the same problem but it limited to only one device - My very
first Slim Devices Squeezebox running firmware 40. iPlayer is v1.5.3 and
LMS is 7.9.1 . All AAC file settings are 'on' and my 2 Picore players, 2
ipads and 2 iphones all play at the correct speed. It's most frustrating
as after many years of not working with Spotify the Spotty plugin as
brought it new life ! Any thoughts apart from 'get a more modern
device?'



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread bpa

NMarshall wrote: 
> I had the same problem for around 36 hours, then the delay disappeared.
> So
> it must have been a BBC issue, rather than the iPlayer plugin.

Delay is not the same as slow. OP problem was that plaback ran at about
90% normal speed so 1 hours program would start at right time but take
about 66 minutes to play.

A delay is when a program starts late but runs at the correct speed and
so completed in the correct duration.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread Neil Marshall
I had the same problem for around 36 hours, then the delay disappeared. So
it must have been a BBC issue, rather than the iPlayer plugin.
Neil

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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread bpa

johnbeverley wrote: 
> Next on my to-do list - how to receive hi-res BBC R3 overseas?

The BBC restricts non UK to AAC 48kHz 96kbps for DASH & HLS or 128kbps
44.1kHz for shoutcast http/MP3 

If playing DASH make sure the BBCiPlayer plugin both setting are set to
"Use highest bitrate for DASH stream"

To get UK stream which provide higher quality  - you need to use a VPN
and appear to be based in the UK.  I can't help on that issue.

The BBC test streamed R3 in Flac for last years Proms and that was
available to non UK - no news on whether this experiment will be
repeated.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread johnbeverley

bpa wrote: 
> There is no listing.  The default setting is everything enabled -
> anything explicitly "disabled" is not default.
> 
> It is possible you may have installed plugin or other files that have
> changed the LMS supplied transcoding.  The main default transcoding
> settings include:  Native, lame, flac, faad and sox - alone or in
> combination. The less common formats have their own transcoder which I
> can't remember such as wvunpack and mppdec.
> 
> Plugins to support non standard LMS formats or extend existing ones may
> have their own transcoding such as HLS aka Apple m3u8 using ffpmeg or
> avconv.

Ah. I see.

Everything working perfectly now.

Next on my to-do list - how to receive hi-res BBC R3 overseas?



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread bpa

johnbeverley wrote: 
> Having messed around with those settings (and obviously heard things
> worse as a result) I unsuccessfully did search around for a listing of
> the default settings for "filetypes".
> 
> Can you point me at such a listing?

There is no listing.  The default setting is everything enabled -
anything explicitly "disabled" is not default.

It is possible you may have installed plugin or other files that have
changed the LMS supplied transcoding.  The main default transcoding
settings include:  Native, lame, flac, faad and sox - alone or in
combination. The less common formats have their own transcoder which I
can't remember such as wvunpack and mppdec.

Plugins to support non standard LMS formats or extend existing ones may
have their own transcoding such as HLS aka Apple m3u8 using ffpmeg or
avconv.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread johnbeverley

bpa wrote: 
> Trust your own ears and use default whenever possible.
> 
> Some of those suggestions have been the subject of very long "religious"
> arguments in the audiophile forum.


Having messed around with those settings (and obviously heard things
worse as a result) I unsuccessfully did search around for a listing of
the default settings for "filetypes".

Can you point me at such a listing?

Regards
John



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread bpa

johnbeverley wrote: 
> I followed the guidance from "Soundcheck":

Trust your own ears and use default whenever possible.

Some of those suggestions have been the subject of very long "religious"
arguments in the audiophile forum.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread johnbeverley

bpa wrote: 
> Why were the settings disabled in the first place ?
> Changing default settign should only be done with care as side effects
> are inevitable.


I followed the guidance from "Soundcheck":


https://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.pt/2017/08/logitechmediaserver-settings-guide.html



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread bpa

johnbeverley wrote: 
> Worked. Thanks again.

Why were the settings disabled in the first place ?
Changing default settign should only be done with care as side effects
are inevitable.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-21 Thread johnbeverley

johnbeverley wrote: 
> I shall try that. Thank you.


Worked. Thanks again.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-14 Thread johnbeverley

bpa wrote: 
> This is your problem.  You have only enabled AAC to PCM transcoding. 
> PCM has no header providing audio format details and so player assume a
> 44.1kHz 2ch 16bits stream.
> 
> Use defautl AAC setting (i.e. enable AAC natove, AAC Flac ) and all will
> be OK.

I shall try that. Thank you.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-14 Thread bpa

johnbeverley wrote: 
> AAC:
> AAC Disabled
> FLAC Disabled
> MP3 Disabled
> PCM faad
> 

This is your problem.  You have only enabled AAC to PCM transcoding. 
PCM has no header providing audio format details and so player assume a
44.1kHz 2ch 16bits stream.

Use defautl AAC setting (i.e. enable AAC natove, AAC Flac ) and all will
be OK.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-14 Thread johnbeverley

bpa wrote: 
> What version of plugin ?
> What settings ?
> Have you changed the default Settings/Advanced/Filetypes AAC setting ? 
> Can it still play native ? 
> Does this happen on a single Touch/Radio  player, not synced ?
> What other plugins installed ?
> 
> BBC audio is at 48kHz- it "feels" like audio is being played back at
> 44.1kHz  - this can happen if LMS settings are changed so that a player
> should play in PCM and not in Flac or native codecs.

Thanks for speedy response.

I'm running BBC iPlayer (1.5.4.5)

Configured thus:

Live stream Dash>HLS>MP3>FlashAAC
On Demand Dash>HLS

Settings/Advanced/Filetypes:

AAC:
AAC Disabled
FLAC Disabled
MP3 Disabled
PCM faad

Other plugins:

BBC iPlayer Extra
Date & Time
Network Test
Powersave
Radio
Visualiser Screensaver

The phenomenon occurs across the estate, with different devices running
independently. Coincidentally I cannot get synchronisation to stick, and
have to re-enable it manually each time I want to use it.

Regards
John



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Re: [SlimDevices: Plugins] BBC IPlayer runs late and slow

2018-02-14 Thread bpa

johnbeverley wrote: 
> Any thoughts?


What version of plugin ?
What settings ?
Have you changed the default Settings/Advanced/Filetypes AAC setting ? 
Can it still play native ? 
Does this happen on a single Touch/Radio  player, not synced ?
What other plugins installed ?

BBC audio is at 48kHz- it "feels" like audio is being played back at
44.1kHz  - this can happen if LMS settings are changed so that a player
should play in PCM and not in Flac or native codecs.



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