Part of learning about country music is learning where songs come from, and
my sense is that that's true with various kinds of roots music - blues,
Cajun and so forth, but I guess it's not so big a thing across the board.
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would be interested in knowing how much a
voice, quality, tone and so forth influences you in your likeability quotient of
any cd.
For example - Although I acknowledge the
musicianship on the Dixie Chicks debut cd, I totally dislike Natalie
Maines' voice. For me, her voice is grating;
Well, here's a thought for you. Perhaps you heard, know or remember that
there were many critics of the Nashville Sound. Artists many revere today
for being country icons such as Cline, Arnold, Reeves were chastised for
"selling out" to pop music. So, suppose in twenty years Twain is the
You guys are all the samesheesh! gActually, there probably wouldn't
have been a Motown without Stax or Chess. But, Ms. Nixon wants to know if
any of us like Motown. Heck yes! From The Temptations to The
Supremes...very likeable music which got many of the record-buying public to
delve
"Real" country is probably a bit different for anyone here as well as those
artists who say that they wish to get back to their roots and do some "real"
country. I would imagine that defining "it" would take into account an
individual's preferences, exposure to different musical styles while
On Saturday in my area we got both the Austin City Limits with Old
97s and Whiskeytown *and* this Vince Gill special.
Anyone know whether this is going to be rebroadcast?
As far as the Vince Gill "Live By Request" special:
It will be rebroadcast Sunday, February 14 10:00 pm - midnight
and
I can't believe the author left out The Doors. "The Doors" , "Strange
Days", "Waiting For The Sun". Never mentioned The Who either. Of course,
there have been some great defining moments offered of the individual song
variety: "Layla"
Derek The Dominoes; "House Of The Rising Sun", The
In a message dated 99-02-04 19:51:11 EST, Joe writes:
I wonder if this is true of other fields like politics or big
business,
etc.
I'm sure Hitler could be a charming dinner companion...
No, everyone said he was a big bore. Hermann Goering, on the other hand,
was a fun guy.
-- Mike
And in neither case does the fact that both gals are nice looking have
anything to do with how I hear the records.
But speaking of nice looking: (!)
All subjective of course, one person's goldmine is another's tar-pit.
But, I cannot help but think of one k.d. lang who does have a superior
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Subject: k.d. lang (was Re: Heather Myles Injustice)
...k.d. lang who does have a superior voice
and who did put out a really good album
Late reading a review on Jenny Simpson (Country Magazine) - which got me
wondering. Since she was dropped from Decca before her record was released,
will she have to buy back the cd's produced and left undistributed? I was
thinking that if so, this could amount to hundreds of thousands if not
Also, I was wondering where might be a good place to start to put a
tentative
toe into Vince Gill's back catalog. If it helps, I like most of what Randy
Travis does (as a point of comparison) except for schlock like "I Did My
Part",
and I detest things like "Holes in the Floor of Heaven and
I agree. I really like "Lonesome Vistas". Rockabilly, honky-tonk with a
modern slant. Pete's songwriting is highly melodic and though the cd
travels through several heartbreak songs, it's never depressing or gloomy.
I'm so glad you're going to play them, Mike.
Tera
I just finished a good
... Del McCoury co. do "Get Down On Your
Knees and Pray," but it wasn't until seeing it on McCoury's new album that
I
learned it to be a Bill Monroe song.
D'oh. I've heard quite a few, but nowhere even close to all, of Monroe's
recordings. Can anyone please suggest where I might find his
Question on Other Ones - "The Strange Remain"
I know this came out recently, but haven't heard it as of yet. Is this
pretty much in the tradition of The Grateful Dead or do Weir, Lesh et al do
something different?
Thanks, Tera
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From: Jerald Corder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Congratulations, Nancy! You done real good! I see from your list of
nominees that you're in some pretty fine company. Good luck and let us
know...
Tera
14th Annual Premier Player Awards Nominees
Premier Songwriter Award: Nancy Apple, Tommy Burroughs, Jimmy Davis,
Jerry
Hayes, Ross Rice,
Someone said:
Play an accordian. Go to jail. It's the law.
So that's what happened to Nathan Abshire, Amede Breaux, PeeWee King...and
Art Van Damme. g Seriously, all of the above
by mastering this chest cumberbund,made some very beautiful, richly textured
music. I'm particularly fond of
While I'm thinking about it, I came up with a solution -- that works for me
-- to dealing with the infernal question "What is Alternative Country?"
For the purposes of the time-line -- although it's also my general
philosophy -- I don't attempt to define "alternative country" at all.
Instead...
The last I heard which was two weeks ago was that NIN's next release will be
"The Fragile" (title still tentative) and who knows when? Some say May,
some say June. Reznor went into it wishing to write a more radio-friendly
album, has enough material to fill two discs at this point (half-vocal,
Rhino's "Anthology 1935-1973" is pretty good. It's about $25- 30, but has
32 tracks. Other than that, I also have a Sony Collector's Series
"Anthology" - that was about 8 or 9 dollars. Has some good ones also (24 in
all) - Mexicali Rose, Corrine Corrina, Blue Yodel Number1, Steel Guitar Rag
Could this be "Texas Music" written by Rick Koster? It serves the timelines
and the artists you are speaking of. St. Martin's Press. Published 1998.
Pretty good reading all in all. Talks about Buddy Holly. I just got "The
Real Rhythm and Blues" by Hugh Gregory which spans the blues/soul
Regarding PJ Harvey: I wouldn't necessarily disagree as to including "To
Bring You My Love" on the list. I believe it shows a fine line between
anger and sensuality much that love and hate are often equated. "Down By
The Water" is one of those primevil songs which, with the haunting
drumline,
Meshuggah is just a bunch of fuzz-box metal vocals/guitar in the tradition
of Gwar (satanic-type rock) with a little bit of melodic thrown in to intice
the masses. Influential nineties music? I hardly think so - rehash upon
rehash of a repressed hormonal male puberty gone completely awry.
Not to beat a dead horse, but could someone who saw Shania's performance
tonight, puh-leeze explain to me what she's got to do with country music?
Oh it must be the twin fiddles in the band. g
Jim, smilin'
Label affiliation? I suspect Nashville would easily let her go as one of
"theirs" if it
First of all, the guy puts this in print not bothering to get Trisha
Yearwood's name spelled correctly.
Secondly, he hasn't paid attention to those who have said and proven that
they wanted to "get back to basics" and make "real country records" or the
labels who have signed artists having a
"William F. Silvers" reprinted someone who said:
I don't think I've ever heard a more self-congratulatory, smug,
preaching-to-the-choir
routine played out so effectively, at least in the press.
Williams smothers her every
note with affect, with shapeliness,
We journalists are not in the music business, we're *covering* the
music business. Well, at least that's how the oft-referenced Greg Kot
positioned himself during a panel at lat year's (?) SXSW.
Neal Weiss
A good read between the lines quote, I might add. I've seen more
journalistic
That assumes that Buckner has word-of-mouth "street
cred," but wouldn't the word-of-mouth say that his word is MUCH MORE
creative than whatever spills out of your cakehole? I don't get it, like I
said, in the small picture. In the big picture it's obvious. "Hey,
Fuckface!
You're not in your
Er, what he said. And it sure is ironic to see a post viciously insulting
a fellow P2er for an imaginary insult.g Please read more carefully
folks, lest you read something into a message that simply isn't
there.--don
Where I come from using the term "cakehole" as in and I quote here,
Who wrote that? Actually, it was funny in a "poignant" sort of way g
Well, whoever it was you should be happy to know that Lance and I duked it
out
with Dan as referree. I got a black eye and have to buy both guys a beer.
Sorry for all that. It really was a misunderstanding, not meant in any
BTW, who are Gil Grand and Monty Holmes?
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
Holmes had an album out last summer, "All I Ever Wanted". Pretty much
acoustic-based ballads, a few shuffles with steel guitar as mainstay
throughout. Actually not
JG Roll said:
I think that the bottom line is that Alt-Country is the commercial kiss of
death. Nobody has really broken thru (Lucinda not excepted), and the
radio format is a complete commercial wasteland. When you consider that
these people (Wilco, etc.) are on major labels, and have been at
I don't think I was asserting a simplistic summation of twentieth century
music inasmuch as I was trying to say that successful music from any
generation seems to be tied to the 16-30 crowd. "Successful" meaning that
it sold well and helped to define a particular generation for the history
books
Carl wrote:
I think if you look at the P2 Survey you'll see the untruth of this. I'm
convinced that alt-country is a (as Monsieur London puts it) "tailbust" and
"gen-x" phenomenon. A glance around the audience at any alt-country show
I've attended shows it skewing way to folks in their late-20s
Carl said:
Which has a lot to do, I'd reckon, with the eventual coming of punk,
as well as with the interest in country as some sort of purer heritage
from the antediluvian age - I don't think it's just coincidence that
alt-country adores pre-seventies country (Hank, Buck,
Get this ya'll. A freind of mine who is setting up a tour for me in Canada
this summer just got thru working production at the big rodeo in Houston,
where many country acts played, including Shania.
He said that most the show was taped (including vocals).
How do artists plan to get away with
I am looking for some background on the Michigan group, Black Beauty (new
LP, "Senor Smoke").
Dont know about the band, but Senor Smoke is Auerelio Lopez, a hard
throwing relief pitcher for the Detroit Tigers back in the 80s glory days.
Yes, was also an applied moniker for Jose Mesa when
Barry Mazor posted:
Paul Simon, who knew some things about what silence sounded like, had
this to say in the NY Times this morning; what's interetsing about it to me
is the indication that the very smart DiMaggio understood some of
this--that there was BOTH yearning and some ironic comment in
Jeff Wall wrote:
If George had been driving a 73 Suburban, he might of not gotten
hurt as bad. When I'm out there behind the wheel of my full size '89 4
wheel drive Ford Bronco, or the wife lets me drive her '65 Plymouth
Deathmobile, I feel proud to be an American. Especially when I hit one
Lest we forget Andrew Baxter.
Tera
Papa John Creech. Of course he played for a while with all the dopers out
in Californicate, The Jefferson Airplane to be exact, but if you ever had
the opportunity to catch him without all them long-hairs, he played blues,
funk, and jazz.
Then there's also
Btw, Jon, I must confess I'm hearing more and more
mainstream Nashville cuts that strike me as good, respectable stuff
these days. Maybe there *is* a trend Yesterday , for
ex., I heard that Trisha song, "Powerful Thing" (or whatever the
title is) and thought it was an entirely enjoyable
I must say that I found Neil's final line - "Would you suggest that James
Brown be less Black, or Oasis less British?" - rather offensive. Of course
not; James Brown IS black, Oasis IS British. And while Rufus is indeed
gay, and that sensibility informs his music, I still think he and his music
(written regarding Jon Randall):
Can anyone back me up on this one (or prove me wrong):
Wasn't this the "country singin' kid from KY" on MTV's "Real World" when
they
were in So. CA?
For some reason I wanna say his name was Jon.
Rave On,
Paul
Don't know about the MTV thing, but FWIW, he's the
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Subject: Re: Clip: The state of country radio
In a message dated 3/15/99 9:40:41 PM Central Standard Time,
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Just happened
I see your point Jon, but I think you give Shania too much credit for her
early career as some people slam her too much for singing cabaret-style
"pop" tunes. Before Lange got involved, you have a woman who wanted a music
career; was influenced equally by country and pop and who tinkered around
Just a comment/question. Doesn't it seem a bit ironic that while some
alt.country artists (as discussed here) are moving toward a more
commercialized sound at the same time several mainstream country acts are
expressing and proving a desire to move toward a more traditional country
sound?
Tera
Robert "Waddy" Wachtel. Yes, also collaborated with WarrenZevon ("Model
Citizen", "Angel Dressed In Black" and I think "Nighttime In The Switching
Yard"). Also wrote with Keith Richards, JD Souther and many others,
including James Taylor's hit "Her Town Too"
Tera.
Am I right in assuming that
From news at country.com - Jackson, TN will host The Rockabilly Hall Of
Fame.
Groundbreaking slated for mid-September '99.
Tera
Looking over a list of the winners of the Leadership Musics Nashville City
Music Awards which was held back on Feb. 10, '99, I see that the winner for
Best Rock Album was The Screamin' Cheetah Wheelies for "Big Wheel". Does
anyone know anything about this group, please?
Other winners of note
I just read on Country Standard Time that The Meat Purveyors newest offering
contains their renditions of three Madonna songs, among them "Like A
Virgin". This is a joke, right?
Please tell me this is a joke...
Tera
Nancy Says:
Sammy Hagaregads
Get this ya'll, the owner of the newsweekly I am music ed of asked me to
set
up an interview with him
Sammy apparantly has something to do with that new Tequiza beer.
Probably just plugging "Red Voodoo" more than the beer. Hagar's trying for
a
Has anyone else seen the new version of Country Music magazine? It's now
based
in Nashville, and is completely unrelated to its previous format except for
Hazel Smith's column. Rich Kienzle and Patrick Carr have been replaced by
articles such as "Get Martina's Look" and photo spreads on up and
Jerry retorts gleefully to Tucker's post:
Gosh, this sure made me laugh.. We librarians are everywhere I
tell you. Without us the entire social fabric disintegrates. Remember
what Yates has always said."beware the librarians".
We have *our* sites squarely upon the industrial
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Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 10:56 PM
Subject: Lila kicks butt
Just heard Lila McCann's first single from her new album, and it's a dandy;
lots of fiddle (the first time, BTW, that I've
Every now and then, I have the good fortune of being sent a tape copy of a
new release by a friend in the business. My incredible fortune this time
around was hearing a copy of Scottie Sparks' self-titled cd.
Very good bluegrass, reminiscent of Clinch Mountain Country, yet Sparks'
vocals
you wrote:
BTW,
anyone know who first recorded the title song? (And no fair lookin' in
your Billboard book, Jong.) Hint: It's the title track of an album that
came out in 1971, and I played another song from that album during the
first hour of Swingin' Doors last week (the hour that's up on
I wrote:
My incredible fortune this time
around was hearing a copy of Scottie Sparks' self-titled cd.
Jeff Wall wrote:
Any kin to big haired Larry Sparks? now THAT's somebody who knows how to
sing!
Nope, not one hair close. Scottie is from the group Unlimited Tradition.
He served vocals on
Read that the RIAA is initiating a "Diamond" award for those albums
certified 10 million or more sold.
Currently eligible in the country category are...you guessed it...Brooks,
Twain and Kenny Rogers.
I remember when the term "platinum" came out and that was a major feat for a
recording artist.
Just for the heck of it, did you try the Ernest Tubb record store? Phone
number is:
615-255-7503. Hope this gets you results.
Tera
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Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: Psycho
answering my own post, I write;
Haven't heard this yet myself, but last night on MTV120 Nessie did a
song called "Don't Think Twice It's Alright". This is a cover-ain't it?
Yeah, it sure is, you idiot. Dylan, off of "Freewheelin'". Hey, Ralph
didn't know who he was eitherG
just
Since many are talking about the new Barnett, thought I'd bring up the
soundtrack to "A Walk On The Moon" which has Mandy singing "Town Without
Pity" - and not badly at all, I might mention, but the instrumentation
leaves alot to be desired. This soundtrack also has "Wishin' Hopin"
(Dusty
Why Shania hasn't been plucked for spokespersondom
is a mystery. Probably asked, and refused.
Chris
Shania's cozy with K-Mart jeans.
Seriously - they're backing her tour and she occasionally models for them.
Check out the new spring line and see the jeans with the stripes down the
side - for
I don't know how this thread evolved really...but why does every writer of
note always tag "I Want You Back" as such a great song? Is it because it
really IS a great song or is it because...what? Yeah, I thought it was a
good song and in terms of numbers sold, it ranks up there...but it really
That song is "Father Sun" (written with Jay Oliver, btw)
Tera
Before her big hit record came along she had a Wynonna cut, on the same
CD with Kimmie's "I Just Drove By". I can't remember the name of the song.
--
Joe Gracey
President-For-Life, Jackalope Records
http://www.kimmierhodes.com
This is being written under cover of night as there's relatively little
twang content.
Island - David Arkenstone (1989 actually)
Auberge - Chris Rea 1991
Force Of Nature - KoKo Taylor 1993
Toward The Within - Dead Can Dance 1994
No Sant - Wasis Diop 1996
Rendezvous With The Blues - Jimmy Hall
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Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 6:53 PM
Subject: help: trying to get stories straight
Any one recall Shania Twain re-recording or remixing "Still the One" for
pop
airplay? Something about
Is this your list or is it culled from some specific source? Care to
'splain yerself?*
Thanks loads for mentioning Mahalia Jackson - now what about Ma Rainey,
Bessie Smith, Billie Holliday, Ella Fitzgerald? What about The Carters?
Why no Frank Sinatra?
Influences:
Bessie Smith - Ma Rainey
Janis
Armstrong gets my # 1 vote, btw, not just as a cornetist/trumpeter but as a
singer whose sense of rhythm and phrasing pretty much invented (along with
Bing's additions) the way we sing in the 20th century. --david cantwell
Crosby has said that his greatest musical influence was Al Jolsen.
Perkins was inducted into the Rock-n-Roll Hall Of Fame in 1987; is not in
the CHF.
Tera
Thirdly, if we are counting the 'early influences' category in the Rock
HOF are the folks that are in both...
Elvis
Cash
Bob Wills
Bill Monroe
Jimmie Rodgers
and did Carl Perkins make both?
Later...
CK
Linda,
Here are some good websites to help you out with these artists -
1. Mark Wills - www.markwills.com
2. Kenny Chesney - www.kchesney.com
3. Tim McGraw - www.timmcgraw.com
Tera
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David said (edited):
There's no doubt that Crosby idolized Jolsen. EVERYONE idolized him, but
I'm not so sure he was that big a musical influence on Crosby. Certainly
Jolsen's charisma as a performer was an inspiration, but as for the way he
actually sang, Crosby was far more influenced by
Thanks, Jack. Funny you should mention Sara Evans in relation to Reeves as
someone I know also said that the vocal quality is similar. Guess I'll have
to check it out.
Yes, Griggs is reminiscent of Cobain...even that video for "You Won't Ever
Be Lonely"
has that dark-tinged, alone in the world
Jeff said:
My only complaint is that Chris Gray (singer/gee-tar) says he likes
Sheryl
Crow...
Sheryl Crow is a three on a scale of 1-5. She ain't great, but she ain't
Mariah Carey.
Jeff
Huh? Mariah Carey cannot and I repeat cannot stay glued to one note long
enough to let you hear for
my head
though.
Tera
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To: passenger side
Subject: Re: Welfare Music
Carey's camp wants us
to believe that she has an eight-octave range. Yeah, right - if rocks
could
fly.
Louise said:
I've got the Dixie Chicks album. It's a good album with some good
"country"
stuff on it. It's usually the case that the better stuff is only allowed on
the
album because of all the other pop stuff around, but because they are
selling so
well now they can get away with putting the
Jerry said:
I think perhaps, Cobain's voice spoiled the overall
sound for me and that's why I gave the record such short shrift.
There's nothing wrong with not liking a recording because you don't like the
vocals...maybe that statement needs to be repeated g If the voice or the
vocal stylings
Marie on Beefheart...
There is a difference between noise and music, right?
CK:
Actually, according to Zappa when recording those LPs, the point was to
answer that question, "No."
Well, I think they answered that question with a *yes*. There is a
difference
between noise and music. Beefheart
On Twitty - now here's a performer who had more #1 hits than Elvis and still
isn't in the
Country Hall of Fame. Why? What's the hold-up? A big Twitty fan myself,
I'd have to say that Jon is on the money with his recommendations, although
Twitty's rockabilly start on vinyl wasn't bad either. I
Sony-Nashville news release 4/28:
Danni Leigh is now signed to Monument and will be working on a new album for
fall '99 release.
Tera
BLUE CHIP SPOTLIGHT ALBUM: "Chalee Tennison" by Chalee Tennison. Produced
by
Jerry Taylor. Label: Asylum.
Fifteen seconds into cut 1, my first thought (clean version) was "Gee,
not
another Reba clone". But fifteen minutes into the album, you realize that
this is a solid collection of
Just a comment on Lauderdale and most probably an unpopular one -
I really do like him but I have to complain about the vocal mix on his last
cd.
Way too out front, pretty grating on the ears. He has a nice voice, but
most of the cd sounds as though he had his lips stapled to the microphone so
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