On 2024-02-21 MRob via Postfix-users wrote:
[ off-topic ]
It never ceases to amaze me how people *know* that what they're posting
is off-topic, yet decide it's okay for them to post it anyway if they
just label it as off-topic. Hint: it's not.
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If a localpart-only sender address still is accepted: show the output of
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mynetworks and you should see a response like
504 5.5.2 : Sender address rejected: need fully-qualified address
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, which is
allowed.
As a side note: Please avoid making up arbitrary domain names for
examples. There are official domains reserved specifically for this
purpose. See RFC 2606[1] for details.
[1]: <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2606.html>
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On 2022-08-22 Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 08:50:51AM +0200, Ansgar Wiechers wrote:
>> You could use a check_sender_access restriction with a regular
>> expression like this:
>>
>> /bagel/ REJECT
>
> Do I use the map created by the postfix/acces
chored (since all the localparts seem to begin with the
word "bagel"):
/^bagel.*=(nylxs|mrbrklyn)\.com@/ REJECT
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lid with 'v11' and 'v546'
>
> etc, etc
>
> Is this possible with postfix?
This should be doable with restriction classes [1], but it's probably
easier (and more straightforward) to implement it with a policy service
like postfwd [2].
[1] http://www.postfix.org/RESTRICTION_CLASS_README.htm
on who
successfully brainwashed half the internet into destroying ICMP because
"stealth?" *That* Steve Gibson?
I *strongly* advise everyone to take *anything* coming from Gibson with
two or three handful of salt. At least. The guy is a charlatan at best.
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will this test reject the transport when any of those records are
> missing, or when the propagated HELO/EHLO domain doesn't have any of
> those records?
Postfix will reject the connection when neither A nor MX record exists.
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.239.195/24 but it does not work, if my
> address is 88.103.239.2
You need to specify the network address for that network:
mynetworks = 88.103.239.0/24
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However, the abuse of
Gmail Reply-To addresses by spammers/scammers is so rampant (at least in
my experience) that on my personal mail server I decided to reject
everything with a Gmail Reply-To except for whitelisted addresses.
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mas and/or whitespace. Continue long lines by starting
| the next line with whitespace.
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for the sender match and an access map for the
recipient match because that worked best for my use cases, but other
table combinations should work as well.
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e a racist. If not, then I
> apologize. But only if you are not.
"Taking action" to accomplish ... what exactly? Somebody please explain
to me whose life got improved in any way by replacing the words
"whitelist" and "blacklist" with "allowlist" and "de
192.168.17.0/24 local_only
...
>8
8<
# /etc/postfix/local_domains
foo.example.org OK
bar.example.org OK
...
---->8
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ost server.cointalk.com
Host server.cointalk.com not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
Postfix rejects the mail because it cannot resolve the sender domain.
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On 2020-12-15 Jeff Abrahamson wrote:
> On 15/12/2020 12:36, Ansgar Wiechers wrote:
>> Spoofing the envelope from address (Return-Path: ) is
>> actually valid (per the SMTP protocol) and a common occurrence for
>> mail sent by bad actors.
>
> Is prohibiting spoofing enve
nt senders from spoofing the envelope from
address:
Return-Path:
It does not affect the From: header in the mail:
From: p27.eu
You need a spam filter if you want to address that as well.
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ion-5.1>
If a domain should never receive mail it's better to define a null MX
for that domain (see RFC 7505).
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7505>
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sual filters don't apply to that.
What you can do is disable pickup entirely so that even local users are
required to submit mail via SMTP (on localhost).
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URATION_README.html#null_client
[1]:
https://www.systutorials.com/sending-email-using-mailx-in-linux-through-internal-smtp/
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implements. If for some reason you must
use the pre-packaged Potfix but still have /usr/local/etc/postfix just
create it as a symlink to /etc/postfix, not the other way 'round.
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On 2020-06-08 John Dale wrote:
> Why does this agitate people?
Because the whole Political Correctness/Social Justice thing has
devolved into a religion. Thus all heathens must convert to this faith
or burn at the stake.
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r a specific next hop that port
will be used.
Of course an MTA can also use submission to send to a next-hop MTA if
the latter supports that (since the sending MTA is acting as a client
there), but you would need to specifically configure that on the sender.
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;example.org" with your virtual mailbox domain and
"example.com" with the local domain of the mail server.
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reload
> > > fi;;
> > > esac
> > > done
> >
> > Sorry to bring this up after a while, but I have been trying this code,
> > but seem to hit a syntax error:
> >
> > line 10: [: : integer expression expected
> >
> >
> > Line10: i
ages were stored into disk by encrypted?
AFAIK individual queued messages can't be encrypted, but you can
certainly encrypt the volume where the queue is located.
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ge.com/tutorial/configure-postfix-to-use-gmail-as-a-mail-relay/>
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would prefer redis over memcache, since it supports
> replication/syncronisation over multiple servers.
I would recommend using a configuration management system like Puppet,
Ansible, Chef, ... for deploying tables across multiple servers instead
of replicating the information with something
to a more
> permanent location, or at least update the links.
https://www.planetcobalt.net/patrick.koetter/saslfinger/
https://www.planetcobalt.net/patrick.koetter/smtpauth/
I adjusted links where it seemed appropriate. If I made a mistake
somewhere please let me know.
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rough an encrypted transport channel and never store
it on disk, an attacker who has gained control of the server can still
intercept the message.
[1]: https://www.planetcobalt.net/sdb/crypter.shtml
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On 2019-10-02 ratatouille wrote:
> Do I really have to whitelist all the IPs of
> outbound.protection.outlook.com in postgrey?
No. You could simply stop graylisting and instead use spam protection
measures without its side effects (e.g. postscreen).
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describe the actual problem you're trying to
solve instead of what you perceive as the solution. Debug logging in
Postfix should not be required for any normal troubleshooting. What do
you think you need this for exactly?
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or
delivery and then then somehow discards it. What you have presented so
far are allegations at best, without any actual proof.
Logs are always a good start for digging into issues like this.
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sus hosted versus other domains"
section of the document:
http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html#canonical
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...@example.org rc_foo
>8
In foo_sender_access:
8<
b...@example.com REJECT Mail not accepted.
some...@example.net REJECT Mail not accepted.
>8
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etworks
permit_sasl_authenticated
reject_unauth_destination
...
check_client_access pcre:/etc/postfix/client_access.pcre
...
and define the offending domain in that file:
/\.artegic\.net$/ REJECT Not accepting mail from your domain.
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Please do not reply off-list.
On 2018-05-28 Poliman - Serwis wrote:
> 2018-05-28 13:18 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Wiechers <li...@planetcobalt.net>:
>> On 2018-05-28 Poliman - Serwis wrote:
>>> Thank you for advices but how setup different SMTP in MX record if
>>> MX re
mailservers with different priority.
> I would like to underline I could not understand you properly.
MX records only ever specify the servers designated for RECEIVING
INBOUND mail for a domain. They say nothing about POP or IMAP (or
which servers will handle outbound mail for that matter).
imbra mailing list. Did you
try the Zimbra documentation?
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g they might
be subject to change anytime without prior notice). Hence MailScanner is
not supported and not recommended with Postfix, regardless of whether it
does or doesn't work right now.
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EADME.html#danger
This is probably just personal preference, but in addition to
whitelisting postmaster recipients I put a client blacklist before the
whitelist where I block all clients who deemed sending spam to a
postmaster address a good idea.
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shortname: myname
save and run `newaliases`.
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you may want to disable verbose
logging for the smtpd on port 25. Remove the "-v" from this line in
master.cf:
> smtp inet n - - - - smtpd -v
Verbose logging is only required in very specific debugging scenarios
and wont do you any good for regular operations or troubleshooting.
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ou're located and whose mail you're handling.
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is rather heavyweight whereas Postscreen was
designed to be a lightweight zombie deflection tool. You'd lose that
low resource impact advantage by mixing the two.
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to restrict PTR records to a single name.
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-archive.com/postfix-users@postfix.org/msg65583.html
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the spamass-milter run before postscreen?
If not, can it?
Postscreen was created as a lightweight protection against spam bots. It
would be utterly pointless to run it after heavyweight spam protection
measures like Spamassassin.
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the MTA correctly receives
and delivers two separate transmissions (one for group1, the other for
group2).
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/crypter.shtml
Run it as a daemon and configure it as a relayhost for your Postfix.
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for the source IP
* check_sender_access
s/_sender_/_client_/
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On 2014-09-23 A. Schulze wrote:
wietse:
Dammit, I want to hear from people who expect to have problems
or not.
OK, I don't expect problems for /my/ systems
because I already explicit set 'append_dot_mydomain = no'.
Same here.
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for the reject_sender_login_mismatch
restriction[1]. See section Envelope sender address authorization in
the SASL README[2] for details.
[1] http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#reject_sender_login_mismatch
[2] http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html
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database row also the blacklist check,
spam score and antivirus info ?
Postfix logs to syslog and syslog (rsyslog at least) can be configured
to write to MySQL instead of files. See [1] for details.
[1] http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_mysql.html
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in smtpd_proxy_filter setup?
Are Postfix and amavis running on different hosts? Otherwise don't
bother. Encrypting connections on localhost is just a waste of system
resources.
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should not?
I have no idea, what i should fix :-(
Some host connects to your mail server, then disconnects from your mail
server. Apparently without doing anything else. What problem do you
perceive here that would require fixing?
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On 2014-03-25 postfix-users@postfix.org wrote:
Ansgar Wiechers wrote:
On 2014-03-25 postfix-users@postfix.org wrote:
I was suspecting this already:
Mar 25 12:16:56 HOSTNAME postfix/smtpd[6243]: connect from
unknown[180.93.167.227]
Mar 25 12:16:58 HOSTNAME postfix/smtpd[6243]: disconnect
about the actual
problem in tons of unrelated information.
See here for more information on reporting problems to this list:
http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
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: -timeshare.escape.artist-user=example@atcturbo.com
The leading hyphen is what makes the address illegal. To allow addresses
starting with a hyphen set allow_min_user = yes in main.cf.
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#allow_min_user
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, so you can't conditionally check To: and From: header in the same
rule.
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://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/10263/should-we-trust-the-nist-recommended-ecc-parameters
german
Fefe blogged about this back in September.
https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=acceb732
/german
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scenario. (If needed we can buy additional hardware like load
balancer).
This is a dovecot-related question, which is off-topic for the Postfix
mailing list.
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]:25: Connection timed out)
command just like
telnet mail.example.com 25
Trying IP...
Looks to me like your provider is blocking outbound connections to port
25/tcp.
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you're
doing.
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found in it:
f...@example.com f...@example.net
b...@example.com b...@example.net
...
This can be done with a Makefile or some other script.
[1] http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
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tolower() function
calls in all reporting modules
Localparts are not case-insensitive.
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/XUYR4ZDe
Please do not enable verbose logging unless specifically asked to.
Normal Postfix logging usually suffices for troubleshooting delivery
problems.
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to the alias -
mai...@example.com - and includes orig_to (see below) the mail is not
being DISCARDed. Can anyone tell me the correct way to do this?
Remove the aliases pointing to devn...@example.com. Problem solved.
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that only internally, i.e. on our domain.
Can anyone send me a link to the official documentation, or an example
on how to do this.
I think reject_sender_login_mismatch is what you're looking for.
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#reject_sender_login_mismatch
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server, but it can not be encrypted when you send it out to
another server, which pretty much breaks any concept of NSA-proof
email.
Read again.
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is insignificant?
I'd say fail2ban is the way to go about this. If you want to be on the
safe side, make the threshold somewhat higher and extend the lockout
period.
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bugged all the time as
it is.
You're mistaken. example.com, example.net and example.org as well as the
TLDs .test, .example, .invalid and .localhost were reserved for this
exact purpose. See RFC 2606 [1].
[1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2606.txt
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or remove any linebreaks. They
just modify how the text is displayed.
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@iridium:~ $ host -t a postfix.org
postfix.org has no A record
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On 2013-06-05 Steve Jenkins wrote:
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Ansgar Wiechers li...@planetcobalt.netwrote:
mod_rewrite wouldn't help with this, because there is no domain A
record for postfix.org.
cobalt@iridium:~ $ host -t a postfix.org
postfix.org has no A record
It's not like
an unix user :=)
Quoting from the original mail:
After read many howto I try to use virtual user.
He seems to want fred to be a virtual (mailbox) user.
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On 2013-05-18 Benny Pedersen wrote:
Ansgar Wiechers skrev den 2013-05-18 17:27:
He seems to want fred to be a virtual (mailbox) user.
in that case he should not list fuckaround dot org in mydestination,
but in virtual_mailbox_domains
No, he shouldn't. Please carefully re-read his mail. He
server is the final destination. $relay_domains is for relaying mail for
domains that your server is NOT the final destination of. Do NOT mix the
two. Remove $mydestination from $relay_domains.
Restart Postfix after you applied these changes.
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All of this is explained rather well in the documentation[1].
[1] http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
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removed the line from /etc/postfix/virtual? What is the output
of the following commands:
postmap -q f...@nuvolabianca.org hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
postmap -q f...@nuvolabianca.org hash:/etc/postfix/vmailbox
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userA: userA
userB: userB
...
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that route.
For further help post the output of postconf -n (as requested per the
list welcome message) and the abovementioned log excerpt.
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to use a policy service.
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Please keep this on-list. I'm not doing personal support for free.
On 2013-03-14 Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
On 3/14/2013 2:51 AM, Ansgar Wiechers wrote:
On 2013-03-13 Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
I'd also like to be able to use procmail on these.
Procmail is designed for local delivery. It looks
/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html
[2] http://standish.home3.org/virtual-procmail
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configuration on the other servers.
That's what configuration management was invented for. You may want to
look into puppet et al.
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that RFC you must enable authentication on
that port.
Also, do *not* enable verbose logging (-v) unless specifically asked to
do so.
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using a pre queue filter because it results in become a backscatter
and you are usually not permitted by law accept a message with 250
OK and drop it silent
That would be a post-queue filter. A pre-queue filter rejects, so you
don't become a backscatter source.
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,
otherwise you're prone to becoming an open relay.
Also put all restrictions under $smtpd_recipient_restrictions. Unless
you set smtpd_delay_reject = no (which you shouldn't) the result will
be the same, and it's easier to maintain this way.
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On 2013-03-13 Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 01:48:57PM +0100, Ansgar Wiechers wrote:
Mar 12 17:13:01 mediaserver postfix/smtpd[12785]: NOQUEUE: reject:
RCPT from ip68-227-115-116.ok.ok.cox.net[68.227.115.116]: 451 4.3.5
recipi...@domain.com: Recipient address rejected: Server
a hash table hash:/etc/postfix/filtered_domains, but neglected
to actually create it. You probably just created the text file
/etc/postfix/filtered_domains without converting it to an actual hash
table. Run postmap /etc/postfix/filtered_domains.
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as well as
an excerpt from your mail log demonstrating the problem.
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is.
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On 2013-01-17 Muzaffer wrote:
On 17 January 2013 18:40, Ansgar Wiechers li...@planetcobalt.net wrote:
On 2013-01-17 Muzaffer wrote:
I've just found out a virtual file in the format u...@example.com
example doesn't work with virtual_alias_domains. Guess I need to
find another solution
doesn't work with virtual_alias_domains. Guess I need to find
another solution.
Please describe in more detail what you're trying to achieve. Given this
little information it's highly unlikely anyone could come up with a
satisfactory solution/recommendation.
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/VIRTUAL_README.html
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