Fixed with spf - Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/22/2014 07:41 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: A. Schulze: So instead implementing strange workarounds, one should search, find, understand and fix the real problem. Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my DNS or DKIM. It's their bug, not mine. And with mine, I

NOT Fixed with spf - Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-24 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert Moskowitz: Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my DNS or DKIM. It's their bug, not mine. And with mine, I needed an spf record to make them happy: htt-consult.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx ~all Now when my wife sends emails to her employer, yby.org,

Re: NOT Fixed with spf - Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/24/2014 08:42 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert Moskowitz: Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my DNS or DKIM. It's their bug, not mine. And with mine, I needed an spf record to make them happy: htt-consult.com. IN TXT v=spf1 mx ~all Now when my wife

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-23 Thread John
On 11/22/2014 9:45 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 22.11.2014 um 14:50 schrieb A. Schulze: wietse: A. Schulze: So instead implementing strange workarounds, one should search, find, understand and fix the real problem. Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-23 Thread John
I forgot to add that the PTR records for both 74.nnn.nnn.178 and 2001:470:dead:beef:nn::178 point to smtp.my.domain which matches the rest of my setup.

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-23 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von John j...@klam.ca: On 11/22/2014 9:45 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 22.11.2014 um 14:50 schrieb A. Schulze: wietse: A. Schulze: So instead implementing strange workarounds, one should search, find, understand and fix the real problem. Google bounced my mail because of a temp

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-23 Thread Wietse Venema
John: however, I had a similar problem a while back, Google would randomly reject email for, to me, no good reason. It turned out that with IPv6 postfix was not consistent in binding an address for sending. Please do not spread unnecessary confusion. If you had read this tread more

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-23 Thread John
On 11/23/2014 9:50 AM, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: John: however, I had a similar problem a while back, Google would randomly reject email for, to me, no good reason. It turned out that with IPv6 postfix was not consistent in binding an address for sending. Please do not

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-23 Thread Darren Pilgrim
On 11/23/2014 9:59 AM, John wrote: If you can explain why adding the stanzas to master cures the problem I am all ears! It didn't. Some other factor (e.g., path or load problems with HE's nameservers) is the real culprit. Google's DNS lookup paths are overly sensitive to resolution delays.

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-23 Thread Wietse Venema
John: [ Charset windows-1252 converted... ] On 11/23/2014 9:50 AM, wie...@porcupine.org (Wietse Venema) wrote: John: however, I had a similar problem a while back, Google would randomly reject email for, to me, no good reason. It turned out that with IPv6 postfix was not consistent in

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-22 Thread A. Schulze
Peter: Unfortunately the above solution assumes that all recipients that use the google MX servers will have email addresses with google.com or gmail.com domains. (@Wietse: correct me, if I'm wrong) that's a general consequence of postfix design. postfix is destination domain centric. It

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-22 Thread Wietse Venema
A. Schulze: So instead implementing strange workarounds, one should search, find, understand and fix the real problem. Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my DNS or DKIM. It's their bug, not mine. Wietse

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-22 Thread A. Schulze
wietse: A. Schulze: So instead implementing strange workarounds, one should search, find, understand and fix the real problem. Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my DNS or DKIM. It's their bug, not mine. I don't expect your setup is obviously broken and

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.11.2014 um 14:50 schrieb A. Schulze: wietse: A. Schulze: So instead implementing strange workarounds, one should search, find, understand and fix the real problem. Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my DNS or DKIM. It's their bug, not mine. I

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-22 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von A. Schulze s...@andreasschulze.de: wietse: A. Schulze: So instead implementing strange workarounds, one should search, find, understand and fix the real problem. Google bounced my mail because of a temp error. I changed nothing in my DNS or DKIM. It's their bug, not mine. I

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert Schetterer: Hi Andreas , there a wide reports that google sometimes fails somehow with ipv6, i investigated in this hardly , it simply looks its their bug, my best speculation goes in sometimes not working spf ipv6 stuff at their site My domain has no SPF, but it signs all mail with

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-22 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 22.11.2014 um 17:19 schrieb Wietse Venema: Robert Schetterer: Hi Andreas , there a wide reports that google sometimes fails somehow with ipv6, i investigated in this hardly , it simply looks its their bug, my best speculation goes in sometimes not working spf ipv6 stuff at their site

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-21 Thread Peter
On 11/21/2014 07:02 AM, Wietse Venema wrote: /etc/postfix/master.cf: forced-ipv4 unix - - n - - smtp -o inet_protocols=ipv4 /etc/postfix/transport: google.comforced-ipv4: gmail.com forced-ipv4: /etc/postfix/main.cf:

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-21 Thread L. D. James
Actually, all people who use google MX will have google.com or gmail.com in their domains. They can use other email servers on their devices. However, those servers will not be google.com or gmail.com email addresses. They can publish their google.com or gmail.com addresses as their return

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-21 Thread Peter
On 11/22/2014 04:32 PM, L. D. James wrote: Actually, all people who use google MX will have google.com or gmail.com in their domains. Wrong, and this is easy to disprove: $ dig pajamian.dhs.org MX +short 0 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 10 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 10 ALT2.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 20

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-21 Thread L. D. James
On 11/21/2014 11:14 PM, Peter wrote: On 11/22/2014 04:32 PM, L. D. James wrote: Actually, all people who use google MX will have google.com or gmail.com in their domains. Wrong, and this is easy to disprove: $ dig pajamian.dhs.org MX +short 0 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 10 ALT1.ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM. 10

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-20 Thread lst_hoe02
Zitat von wie...@porcupine.org: Robert Moskowitz: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and sent many an email to the cubieboard list. I had one email bounce

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-20 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/20/2014 12:50 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 20.11.2014 um 01:46 schrieb Wietse Venema: Robert Moskowitz: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and sent

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-20 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert Moskowitz: On 11/20/2014 12:50 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 20.11.2014 um 01:46 schrieb Wietse Venema: Robert Moskowitz: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-20 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 20.11.2014 um 18:54 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: On 11/20/2014 12:50 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 20.11.2014 um 01:46 schrieb Wietse Venema: Robert Moskowitz: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think,

google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and sent many an email to the cubieboard list. Just today I finally upgraded my mailserver, but still get the bounce. My

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-19 Thread Mark Martinec
Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and sent many an email to the cubieboard list. Just today I finally upgraded my mailserver, but still

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-19 Thread Wietse Venema
Robert Moskowitz: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and sent many an email to the cubieboard list. I had one email bounce last week. Looks like they handle

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
This is kind of what I was thinking was the case... On 11/19/2014 07:28 PM, Mark Martinec wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 11/19/2014 07:46 PM, Wietse Venema wrote: Robert Moskowitz: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and sent many an email to the cubieboard list. I had one

Re: google bouncing emails - ipv6 ptr problem?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 20.11.2014 um 01:46 schrieb Wietse Venema: Robert Moskowitz: Perhaps this should go to the bind list, but all of my checking shows my ipv6 ptr record is working. This started, I think, last week. I was running an old mailserver and sent many an email to the cubieboard list. I had