I said earlier:
I'm sure there ar emore techni
was supposed to read: I'm sure there are more techniques for safer
handling of data that could be put to use.
PM 5.2.1 | OS X 10.3.9 | Powerbook G4/400 | 768MB RAM | 30GB HD
But I just want to be clear to anyone else reading the list (lurkers et
al) that your statement of I don't think PowerMail or other well-written
applications behave like this simply isn't true. Very well-written
database engines keep files open, and yes, a crash or cut to power can
leave those
I use a similar system -- label number 1 is called Flagged for
attention. Being able to search by label is useful.
However, it requires that I remember to UNlabel the message after I'f
dealt with it, which makes it a workaround but not an ideal solution.
Rick
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Steve Abrahamson said:
I'd feel a lot more comfortable doing this if PM remembered what was open
when it quit. If I have 4 pieces of incoming mail that I need to act on
left open and quit PM, they'll be closed when it relaunches. Given that I
get upwards of 300 emails on some days, I can't
Steve Abrahamson on 8/25/05 said
I'd feel a lot more comfortable doing this if PM remembered what was open
when it quit.
I could go for this: perhaps an option Remember state when closing.
[except when having for force quit, of course]
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On 8/24/05 at 2:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Subject: Re: automating PowerMail
From: Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:23:10 -0400
snip
Now that I'm an expert in cron g I could do something like stop
PowerMail at 1:00 AM, run Retrospect at 2:00
On 8/24/05 at 9:12 AM, A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
P.S. I had paid outrageous upgrade fees for Retrospect Workgroup too
many years, only to find Retrospect is unable to read two of my backup
tapes, and their support wants to charge me just to talk with them. I
now just burn DVDR per
Jerome,
It'd be great if PM had some time-based actions built into it - they'd
help with just about everything in this thread!
Steve
On 8/23/05 at 5:15 PM, PowerMail Engineering ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Jim Pistrang wrote:
What I appear to have in common with others who experience
slowdowns
Am 24.08.2005 um 12:05 Uhr schreibt Michael Lewis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Here is some discussion of it at Dantz's forums:
http://forums.dantz.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?
Cat=Number=58991Main=58988
Thanks for the link.
Now I believe, we are on the wrong mailing list with this problem, but
Just to be clear,
I don't use Retrospect. My usual apps that slows PM even after quitting
are GPO, MachFive, MSI, those which are sample player MAS/AU objects
instantiated within DigitalPerformer or DSP-Quattro. No other app than
PM shows this behavior.
P.S. I had paid outrageous upgrade fees
Jeremy Hughes said:
It checks that backup copies of files are identical with the original
files (if a file changes during a backup, this isn't the case). It also
reports which files which were not backed up successfully.
But an open file may have important data yet uncached, right? I'm not
sure
Mikael Byström (24/8/05 12:22 pm) said:
Retrospect checks the integrity of backups, so this isn't really a problem.
How can it check integrity of PowerMail structures?
It checks that backup copies of files are identical with the original
files (if a file changes during a backup, this isn't the
Gregor Schmidpeter said:
Do you have a source, where I can read more about this Retrospect bug ?
I haven't found anything yet.
It's related somehow to the RetroRun-StartupItem (located in Library
StartupItems RetroRun).
No I only have heard it several times before. I don't use Retrospect
Am 24.08.2005 um 4:07 Uhr schreibt Mikael Byström ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
What I appear to have in common with others who experience
slowdowns is that I am running retrospect at night.
Yes, that is a known culprit.
Do you have a source, where I can read more about this Retrospect bug ?
I haven't
Jim Pistrang said:
What I appear to have in common with others who experience
slowdowns is that I am running retrospect at night.
Yes, that is a known culprit. I use Tri-backup instead. Only drawback is
that it doesn't yet burn directly to CD/DVD. This will change, I've been
told. Meanwhile I
Hi Jerome,
Just to make sure: I have installed Retrospect Workgroup but the
PowerMail slow down even happens when the Retrospect GUI app isn't
running and nothing is backed up!
To isolate things even more
1) I quit and re-launch PowerMail, and when I toggle from one email to
another it
Am Di, 23. Aug 2005, schrieb Gregor Schmidpeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
As Peter stated: RAM is no issue (I have 2 GB on my PB :-)
The Retrospect initiated PM slow down appears even with a fresh
restarted system.
Just to make sure: I have installed Retrospect Workgroup but the
PowerMail slow down
Am 23.08.2005 um 13:46 Uhr schreibt Olaf Drümmer
([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Could this have to do with OS/X starting swapping a lot? Is there
increased disk activity once PM slows down?
Am 23.08.2005 um 17:13 Uhr schreibt Peter Baral
([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
RAM is not the problem - no VM swapping is
Hi Jérôme,
Remember that backuping an opened database is not safe, especially if
you have a schedule to retrieve mail: if the database is modified while
it is copied, the backup may become corrupted. So, if Retrospect is set
to backup your PowerMail database, make it quit PowerMail before
Am Di, 23. Aug 2005, schrieb Gregor Schmidpeter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Am 23.08.2005 um 6:43 Uhr schreibt A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I have posted this 2-3 times. In my case, PM slows down after using
momery/cpu intensive app such as sample player or DSP application. As
soon as I quit
Hi Mikael,
As for your problem, Jim, I wonder if much of yor email is HTML-based?
Perhaps that affects speed negatively.
I also have a very large database, but no, the bulk of the email is not
html based. What I appear to have in common with others who experience
slowdowns is that I am running
I have 192 299 messages currently in my PowerMail DB and I experience no
slowdown in 3-pane view, though mostly I read from an opened message of
the recent messages window. Saving a message sometimes take far too long,
like 10 seconds or so.
I compact my DB like once a month, going from 1.8GB to
hi Steve,
You can save an Automator action as an iCal event:
Create your action in automator
Choose save as plugin...
Select 'iCal alarm' from the pop-up
now iCal opens and you can set the date and time (and if needed:
recurrent) that you want to perform your action
It is lot of fun to play
Am 23.08.2005 um 6:43 Uhr schreibt A-NO-NE Music ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I have posted this 2-3 times. In my case, PM slows down after using
momery/cpu intensive app such as sample player or DSP application. As
soon as I quit these app, I need to restart PM to get its performance back.
No one
I have posted this 2-3 times. In my case, PM slows down after using
momery/cpu intensive app such as sample player or DSP application. As
soon as I quit these app, I need to restart PM to get its performance back.
No one else seen this? This is 100% reproducible on my AlBook1.5/1GB/
Steve Abrahamson wrote at 3:45 PM (-0500) on 8/22/05:
Also, I don't know what you have the activate in there for.
Because he wants to do quit and re-launch.
Err... right. Duh, oops. :)
-b
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On 8/22/05 at 3:24 PM, Ben Kennedy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Jim Pistrang wrote at 3:09 PM (-0400) on 8/22/05:
tell application PowerMail 5.2.1
quit
activate
end tell
Any reason why this might be a bad idea? It strikes me that it might
break if/when PowerMail moves to a new
On 8/22/05 at 8:54 AM, Jim Pistrang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said:
Rather than complain too much g I thought I'd use the OSX Automator to
quit out of PowerMail and re-open it sometime in the middle of the
night. I see how to launch an application with Automator, and I know
how to schedule my
10.3.9 on 1ghz PowerBook here, over 10k messages stored in database (200-
300 folders at last count), and PM's been slow for a while. 2-pane view.
Restarting doesn't seem to help.
I'm looking forward to moving to 10.4 in the hopes that it will help - or
more to the point, the freshly reformatted
The idea I think is to do a reboot, thus the quit, then activate lines.
However, you might want to put a delay in it.
quit
delay 30
activate
This will delay the reboot 30 seconds.
Ben, the issue with PowerMail and version seems to be unique to some builds of
PowerMail. I've seen them put
Jim Pistrang wrote at 3:09 PM (-0400) on 8/22/05:
tell application PowerMail 5.2.1
quit
activate
end tell
Any reason why this might be a bad idea? It strikes me that it might
break if/when PowerMail moves to a new version and the application name
changes. Any other thoughts
Hi Wayne,
I will offer this up though. I have found that using a combination of
cron and AppleScript tended to work better at automating tasks than just
cron or AS alone.
So, should I set up a cron to execute this script in the middle of the night?
tell application PowerMail 5.2.1
Darn, you beat me to it. ;-)
I will offer this up though. I have found that using a combination of cron and
AppleScript tended to work better at automating tasks than just cron or AS
alone.
Wayne
-Original Message-
From: Ben Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Pistrang wrote at 2:29 PM
Jim Pistrang wrote at 2:29 PM (-0400) on 8/22/05:
Meanwhile, can anyone tell me how to Quit out of PM, either with an
applescript or with the automator?
I am completely and utterly green with applescript, but here is my guess:
tell application PowerMail
quit
end tell
Does that do it?
Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I'm running the latest versions of PowerMail and OSX on a 1.67GHz G4
PowerBook with 1gb memory. I get over 300 emails per day, including a
lot that are filtered directly to trash or a spam folder. I find that
after a few days of steady use,
Am Mo, 22. Aug 2005, schrieb Jim Pistrang [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I get over 300 emails per day, including a
lot that are filtered directly to trash or a spam folder. I find that
after a few days of steady use, PowerMail gets sluggish. I mostly see
this when clicking from one email to the next in
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