Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-24 Thread Michael Lewis
JD Milo sez: >I think whether it affects >you or not is how you work with email. This is precisely it. I had never run into this glitch because when I edit a draft, I close it, click to save, and then send the message. For whatever reason, I just have never followed the other sequence which lead

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-24 Thread JD Milo
Michael, I am happy someone brought up something that affected me everyday - the editing of outgoing messages is indeed, odd. I think whether it affects you or not is how you work with email. I usually have five or six messages going at the same time in various states of editing. I hit 'save' eve

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-23 Thread Mikael Byström
Michael Lewis said: >You took "I expect it to behave this way" as meaning "it is not a bug."? >As some kind of affront or something? If Barbara has a point in that it's expected to work like what I described and I could understand her point, then it would not have been a bug. >after some people

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-23 Thread Michael Lewis
You took "I expect it to behave this way" as meaning "it is not a bug."? As some kind of affront or something? I didn't see it at all that way. Like I said, we may just use the software differently and never came across this inconsistency. Po-tay-to, po-tah-to,to-may-to, to-mah-to: bug or inconsis

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-23 Thread Mikael Byström
Ben Kennedy said: >he is rather trying to genuinely understand their point of view. I really am. If someone says "yes, it could work differently, but I don't regard this a big problem" then that would have been very different from saying "I expect it to behave this way". That means "this is not

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-23 Thread Mikael Byström
Michael Lewis said: >Can't you just be right and report it to CTM without beating people into >the ground and submission? You got your verification of this particular >sequence doing something strange. I did? >Get over yourself and let the list return to normal. I will. >I've been reading (

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-23 Thread Barbara Needham
Mikael Byström on 11/22/05 said >Barbara Needham said: > >>I guess to me that would be the expected behavior. To me, the message in >>the outbox is the un-edited message, the one open is the edited message. >>Thus closing the edited message would replace the one in the outbox. >>Before its closed

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-23 Thread Ben Kennedy
Michael Lewis wrote at 8:47 AM (-0500) on 11/22/05: >Can't you just be right and report it to CTM without beating people into >the ground and submission? You got your verification of this particular >sequence doing something strange. Get over yourself and let the list >return to normal. I've been

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-22 Thread Michael Lewis
Mikael Byström sez: >Please, explain the rationale behind having PM behave in 2 contradictory >ways? Can't you just be right and report it to CTM without beating people into the ground and submission? You got your verification of this particular sequence doing something strange. Get over yoursel

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-22 Thread Mikael Byström
computer artwork by subhash said: >That's what *you* find. Please, explain the rationale behind having PM behave in 2 contradictory ways? If there is something coherent with the current state of this issue, it would be most interesting to hear. So far no-one seem to be able to put forward anythi

Re(2): bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-22 Thread computer artwork by subhash
[Mikael Byström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 22.11.2005 um 9:23 Uhr:] >However, I find your expectation on behavior to be >quite unreasonable and illogical. That's what *you* find. -- http://www.subhash.at

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-22 Thread Mikael Byström
Barbara Needham said: >I guess to me that would be the expected behavior. To me, the message in >the outbox is the un-edited message, the one open is the edited message. >Thus closing the edited message would replace the one in the outbox. >Before its closed there are two messages, the edited one

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-22 Thread Barbara Needham
Mikael Byström on 11/19/05 said >Barbara Needham said: > >>Actually, I don't see that, but maybe I'm not getting your steps. >> >>If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and I try to close it, I get >>save/no save option. >> >>If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and then hit "send" again, the

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-21 Thread Mikael Byström
Barbara Needham said: >They should if you don't save them. What if you edit and then change your >mind? Except for auto save applications, I don't want saved until I tell >something to save. Why would one have to explicitly save if you press the send button in the message? Does it work so usual

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-21 Thread Mikael Byström
Barbara Needham said: >Actually, I don't see that, but maybe I'm not getting your steps. > >If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and I try to close it, I get >save/no save option. > >If I edit a mail that is in my out box, and then hit "send" again, the >changes are saved and incorporated in m

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-19 Thread Barbara Needham
Barbara Needham on 11/18/05 said >Mikael Byström on 11/18/05 said > >> >>This must be considered a bug: >> >>Make a new message >>Save it >>Open again for editing >>Write your edits >>In the out box, mark the message as waiting >>realize you made a mistake and go to the still open edited message

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-19 Thread J. Miloslavich
Barbara, You have a point, but then there should be a 'save' or 'not save' dialog. The unedited version should not just fly out there into the ether without you knowing your edits were not included. -Jaede > >They should if you don't save them. What if you edit and then change your >mind? Exc

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-19 Thread J. Miloslavich
Michael, I have noticed this, too, and was surprised the edits didn't "hold." In fact, I was terribly embarrassed by this before I realized this was a problem when work emails went out without my edits. I have really watched it like a hawk since then. I agree that not automatically updating the

Re: bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-19 Thread Barbara Needham
Mikael Byström on 11/18/05 said > >This must be considered a bug: > >Make a new message >Save it >Open again for editing >Write your edits >In the out box, mark the message as waiting >realize you made a mistake and go to the still open edited message >click the send button in that message >-->th

bug report with editing of outgoing message

2005-11-18 Thread Mikael Byström
This must be considered a bug: Make a new message Save it Open again for editing Write your edits In the out box, mark the message as waiting realize you made a mistake and go to the still open edited message click the send button in that message -->the edits are gone Clearly, what should be ex