Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-05 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 13:39 2013-02-04, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote: [snip] The main thing that I've stuck to doing, even though it takes more time upfront, is hand-coding my GUI instead of using any kind of visual designer. This has gotten easier and still doesn't seem very tedious, as long as I divide

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-05 Thread Allen
gofish Its brill Al -Original Message- Oh, my. I am not the only one to hand-code my GUI. I like having my entire app in code. It makes it much easier to search for things. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote: Gee, I found Eclipse to be incredibly daunting, too. Too much so for me to bother with. I thought it was just another

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/4/13 12:15 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote: Eclipse or Visual Studio extremely difficult to use, and my productivity would tank. Gee, I found Eclipse to be incredibly daunting, too. Too much so for me to bother

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/4/13 12:25 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Add another vote there! I used Eclipse for a couple of Ruby in Rails projects, and found it slow and difficult to maintain. Having come from the tightly-integrated IDE of FoxPro, I thought this would be a gentler introduction into FOSS tools, but found it

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 2/4/2013 4:58 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) wrote: There we part ways a bit. Being still a bit typing-impaired, I find a tool which auto-fills variable/function/object names helps me a lot. Especially since I subscribe to LongDescriptiveFunctionNames(WhichHelp,TheMushySpace,BetweenMyEars)

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox) foxh...@information-architecture.com wrote: These days, a terminal, a browser and a ViM session are all I need. There we part ways a bit. Being still a bit typing-impaired, I find a tool which auto-fills variable/function/object names

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote: I suspect there are probably some nice things I'm missing by not using an IDE, but I haven't tried an IDE yet that didn't annoy me in some way. Like you, I think this is some deficiency in me, not in the IDE, since so many

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/4/13 2:11 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: These days, a terminal, a browser and a ViM session are all I need. There we part ways a bit. Being still a bit typing-impaired, I find a tool which auto-fills variable/function/object names helps me a lot. Especially since I subscribe to

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2013, at 4:29 PM, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote: Do you use the built-in autocomplete or something else? Built-in - what more could you need? ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: Just in case you didn't know, vim has auto-completion, too. I couldn't work very well without it. And support for multiple windows, multiple buffers, a built-in scripting language, a rich community of plugins that

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/4/13 2:30 PM, Ed Leafe wrote: Do you use the built-in autocomplete or something else? Built-in - what more could you need? ;-) Well unless I'm missing something the built-in one has no idea what namespace context we are in when suggesting completions, and it doesn't complete

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote: Well unless I'm missing something the built-in one has no idea what namespace context we are in when suggesting completions, and it doesn't complete method arguments, etc. Ah, I see what you mean. No, I don't miss any

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Ken Kixmoeller (ProFox)
Yeah, I agree: simple auto-complete is enough. Now that I have completely hijacked this thread: My apologies. Ken On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Ed Leafe ed.le...@rackspace.com wrote: On Feb 4, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Paul McNett p...@ulmcnett.com wrote: Well unless I'm missing something the

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-04 Thread Alan Bourke
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013, at 09:41 PM, Paul McNett wrote: It has probably improved over time: this was in probably 2002. It's no Visual Studio, but it's pretty good and very flexible, although it does have an insanely complicated preferences system. Anyway - a seasoned shell and text editor

RE: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-01 Thread Dave Crozier
that had a database actually built into the O/S. Happy days! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of kamcgin...@gmail.com Sent: 01 February 2013 03:32 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner) Too bad Dr Dave

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-01 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013, at 02:30 PM, Dave Crozier wrote: Yep, SCO xenix was a cool O/S especially when you had a host of dumb terminals attached serially. I remember brief scrapes with FoxPro on that, in the early 90s. Arcane even then. Also much fun with Concurrent DOS / MultiUser DOS / DR

RE: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-01 Thread Bob Lee
were the days.. Bob Lee -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dave Crozier Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 9:31 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner) Yep, SCO xenix was a cool O/S especially

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-01 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 2/1/2013 11:23 AM, Bob Lee wrote: Dbman was my favorite on SCO, (another dbase/fox clone) multi platform.. I could develop in dos, deploy multi user in sco xenix . same code.. almost any os of the time (late 80s and 90') one could run dbman on it..

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-01 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 2/1/2013 12:34 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 11:16 AM, MB Software Solutions, LLC mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2/1/2013 11:23 AM, Bob Lee wrote: Dbman was my favorite on SCO, (another dbase/fox clone) multi platform.. I could develop in dos,

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-01 Thread Jerry Wolper
Such a great achievement, and so ahead of its time. Did this trend discontinue simply because M$ wanted to dominate the OS world and hence not want their softwares to run on non-Windows machines? More because M$ dominated the OS world, and cross-platform development is difficult. If you want

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-02-01 Thread Paul McNett
On 2/1/13 2:36 PM, Jerry Wolper wrote: More because M$ dominated the OS world, and cross-platform development is difficult. Cross-platform development doesn't need to be difficult. All the apps I've developed in the past 8 years have run on Linux, Mac, and Windows. Even if they only ever

Re: [NF] Fox on other OS, (was Fast scanner)

2013-01-31 Thread kamcginnis
Too bad Dr Dave is not still in charge of Fox. The guy was a genius. He would have it running on everything so we would not be stuck with the M$ crap. - Original Message - From: David Almada davidalm...@sbcglobal.net To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Sent: Thursday, January 31,