RE: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-11 Thread Mike McCann
TI-99 ... (Business Graphs 99). I wrote it in TI-Forth. It ran from a floppy. Fun times. -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Wolper Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 2:20 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: Funny flashback Friday

RE: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-11 Thread John Weller
The British version of the Anglo-French Jaguar aircraft was one of the first military aircraft to use digital computing. Its entire navigation and weapon aiming system was in 8k of RAM - some very creative coding was needed :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > This all puts me in mind

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-11 Thread Alan Bourke
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, at 08:20 AM, Jerry Wolper wrote: > > > This all puts me in mind of the days when hard drives were a high-end > option, operating systems weren't standardized, and software had to fit > on > the most restrictive machine's floppy. (The TI-99 for what I was doing.) > There was l

RE: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-11 Thread Jerry Wolper
> The only memory problems I see these days are to do with allocating gigabytes and > gigabytes of base memory to VM's... what a change from using 4Kb and 8Kb machines > which had to use overlays held on tape and/or the latest 2.5Mb (yes Mega Byte) fixed > Exchangeable drives (FEDS). This all puts

RE: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-07-10 14:07, Paul H. Tarver wrote: It's funny really. These days, I tell my clients how small of a footprint my applications will have on their systems because we can do full installations with data and debug logs fully populated with less than 100Mb. It's surprising how many people th

RE: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread Paul H. Tarver
ubject: Re: Funny flashback Friday memory On 2017-07-10 04:29, Alan Bourke wrote: >> > > wrote: >> >> > I recall back in the late 90s or early 2000s people poo-pooing the >> > VFP installations that had to carry the 15 megabyte runtimes also >> > besi

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread Stephen Russell
Yes. These are purely app servers and we have 100+ of them. Cleaning out the non-necessary logs just to have room is a RPITA. At least for those people in opps. I only have to maintain 3 SQL servers where I do run into similar things. On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 11:45 AM, < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbs

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-07-10 11:35, Stephen Russell wrote: Our virtual server was set as a C & D drive each at 100 G. Symantec anti-virus has killed that 100 G size on the C:\ making us give 200 G for a C drive nowadays. Wait...are you saying SAV needed a ton of space so that's why you increased the drive

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread Stephen Russell
Our virtual server was set as a C & D drive each at 100 G. Symantec anti-virus has killed that 100 G size on the C:\ making us give 200 G for a C drive nowadays. On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:11 AM, < mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com> wrote: > On 2017-07-10 04:29, Alan Bourke wrote: > >>

RE: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread Dave Crozier
Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: 10 July 2017 16:11 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: Funny flashback Friday memory On 2017-07-10 04:29, Alan Bourke wrote: >> > > wrote: >> &g

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-07-10 11:16, Alan Bourke wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2017, at 04:11 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: Does anybody complain about the size of any softwares anymore? These days it tends to be complaining about major console game releases requiring multi-GB day one patche

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread Alan Bourke
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017, at 04:11 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > Does anybody complain about the size of any softwares anymore? These days it tends to be complaining about major console game releases requiring multi-GB day one patches (up to 15GB is not unheard of) before

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-07-10 04:29, Alan Bourke wrote: wrote: > I recall back in the late 90s or early 2000s people poo-pooing the VFP > installations that had to carry the 15 megabyte runtimes also besides the > program/application EXE itself. LOL Ditto people complaining about the size of the .NET framew

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-10 Thread Alan Bourke
> > wrote: > > > I recall back in the late 90s or early 2000s people poo-pooing the VFP > > installations that had to carry the 15 megabyte runtimes also besides the > > program/application EXE itself. LOL Ditto people complaining about the size of the .NET framework. -- Alan Bourke alanp

Re: Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-07 Thread Stephen Russell
Because a full install of your app didn't fit on one disk. On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:21 AM, wrote: > I recall back in the late 90s or early 2000s people poo-pooing the VFP > installations that had to carry the 15 megabyte runtimes also besides the > program/application EXE itself. LOL > [excessi

Funny flashback Friday memory

2017-07-07 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
I recall back in the late 90s or early 2000s people poo-pooing the VFP installations that had to carry the 15 megabyte runtimes also besides the program/application EXE itself. LOL ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Behalf Of Ted Roche > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:25 PM > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords > > I use LastPass, a cellphone for 2FA, and... an index card box full of > pen-and-ink password notes. The latter has never been unav

RE: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-08 Thread Kurt Wendt
Ted Roche Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 4:25 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords I use LastPass, a cellphone for 2FA, and... an index card box full of pen-and-ink password notes. The latter has never been unavailable when the internets on the blink

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-08 Thread Ted Roche
I use LastPass, a cellphone for 2FA, and... an index card box full of pen-and-ink password notes. The latter has never been unavailable when the internets on the blink, never ran out of batteries, I've never forgotten the cable or adapter, and it's pretty invulnerable to 440-pound hackers in Clevel

RE: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-08 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 11:54 2017-05-08, "Paul H. Tarver" wrote: [snip] Woohoo! All this time I thought I was normal and today Ken confirmed I AM a computer geek because I use LastPass! I'm a member of a community! YEAH! :) I just use a Word document. There goes *my* geek status. Sniff, sniff. Good-by

RE: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-08 Thread Paul H. Tarver
>I use a password manager that syncs encrypted data over the internet so >I have the same set of passwords on different machines of different >OSes (Windows, Linux, ChromeOS, Android) and browsers. But none of >these make it easy for desktop or console applications; you need to >query the manag

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-07 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2017-05-06 15:05, Ted Roche wrote: Double-bonus goes to sites that double-check with an SMS or similar. "Something you know (password) and something you have (cellphone)" makes for good two-factor authentication. I was thinking of adding that to my FabNet software. Shouldn't be hard to d

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-06 Thread Ken Dibble
Not so silly. There are password processes that depend on gestures that are under testing. The ability to click and swipe through a series of images is somewhat unique due to biomechanical parameters or personal habits. I've also seen proposed some sort of facial recognition. The sooner we get t

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-06 Thread Ted Roche
On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > set silly on > Hey, maybe we can have cameras watching for body motions as passwords. > Since throwing up one's hands about the password problem is not workable, > throwing up one's hands can be the new equivalent of having a password

RE: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-06 Thread John Weller
+3 John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > Now it's me, O'Reilly, and the NIST +2 > ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/ma

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-06 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 15:35 2017-05-05, Ken Dibble wrote: [snip] Read the article. The data does not support the contention that these are important enough vectors to justify the downside that these recommendations have for users. I did read the article. I do not agree with it. Anybody who's got a dict

RE: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-06 Thread Darren
Now it's me, O'Reilly, and the NIST +2 -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of AndyHC Sent: Saturday, 6 May 2017 4:44 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords On 05-May-17 11:35 PM,

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-05 Thread AndyHC
On 05-May-17 11:35 PM, Ken Dibble wrote: Now it's me, O'Reilly, and the NIST Now it's me, O'Reilly, and the NIST +1 ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-05 Thread Ken Dibble
1. Forcing people to frequently change passwords is not helpful. It just makes it more likely that they will stick the password on a Post-IT on their monitors because they can't remember it. It does help some. If someone has your password but has not changed it, because it would alert

Re: [NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-05 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 10:17 2017-05-05, Ken Dibble wrote: What I've been saying for years From the O'Reilly Security Newsletter: https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/18/new-password-guidelines-say-everything-we-thought-about-passwords-is-wrong/ 1. Forcing people to frequently change passwords is not helpful. It

[NF] Friday Afternoon Discussion: Passwords

2017-05-05 Thread Ken Dibble
What I've been saying for years From the O'Reilly Security Newsletter: https://venturebeat.com/2017/04/18/new-password-guidelines-say-everything-we-thought-about-passwords-is-wrong/ 1. Forcing people to frequently change passwords is not helpful. It just makes it more likely that they wil

RE: Flashback Friday

2017-02-10 Thread John Weller
Brought back loads of memories - including the infamous Foundation Read which I never really got my head round :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > "Foxpro - The Evolution of a New Standard" > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZqzJ6f3d7w > > __

Re: Flashback Friday

2017-02-10 Thread Kurt at VR-FX
Ouch - spoke too soon - as the video continued, yup - I was right - it was Dr. Fulton. I was there at the Fox Conf where FPD was 1st unveiled to an uproarious crowd! People went Nuts when he typed:Modi comm *.prg Then a hundred programs opened up on the screen. It was Exciting times indeed

Re: Flashback Friday

2017-02-10 Thread Kurt at VR-FX
You know - I Really Wished that they put the people's names up as each made their comments. Musta been like 5 people already in 1st 1 min. Not sure if Tom Rettig was one of them. But, I believe the Dr. guy (Darn - I forget his name right now) who was the founder - he was one of the people who c

Re: Flashback Friday

2017-02-10 Thread Alan Bourke
Ah those blues and purples ... -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mail

Flashback Friday

2017-02-10 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
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Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-12-01 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-12-01 19:01, Charlie wrote: FYI, I did more research on this and just never sent in an update. The key point is whether or not the table was opened "EXCLUSIVE" or not. If you open it exclusive, there is a "chance" the memo "block" will be reused (if the new text size is the same or small

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-12-01 Thread Charlie
On 11/30/2016 5:40 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: One thing I put into my design is working with temporary cursors or As I recall, the main reason for memo bloat was caused when saving data. Specifically, if I was editing a memo, then saved it, if the Just an update: fou

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-30 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-03 17:31, Charlie wrote: On 11/3/2016 2:24 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: [snip] I'm handling one of Jeff Johnson's (RIP) clients and having this issue. I was about to create a simple utility for the end-user to grab the table and pack it, but curious if you've got a better idea? One th

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-08 Thread Ted Roche
On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Gene - agreed. Although, now according to Ted - we are NOT so Unusual! > :-) I think I am being misquoted out of context! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-08 Thread Kurt Wendt
, 2016 4:16 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? At 11:30 2016-11-04, Ted Roche wrote: >On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: [snip] > > Myself - never really worked within Frameworks. They just weren't > used on t

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Fletcher Johnson
Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 4, 2016 7:30 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), Massachusetts. Imag

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 07:40 2016-11-07, Dave Crozier wrote: Frameworks are ok but only when you want to do the things that the framework allows. And at that point, you may be so deep in that it is made difficult to break out. This applies more generally to the approach one takes to one's app. Some

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 11:30 2016-11-04, Ted Roche wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: [snip] > Myself - never really worked within Frameworks. They just weren't used on the various jobs I worked at. I did work on this one system - where they guy had created Classes - and I used his exist

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread John Weller
+1 John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > -Original Message- > From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of > Jean Laeremans > Sent: 07 November 2016 15:57 > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? &

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread José Enrique Llopis
2016 18:00 Para: profox@leafe.com Asunto: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? Build my own set of custom classes (not worthy of calling a 'framework' ) but works for all my in-house projects. Spend lot of time building a Data layer on the premise that I will change the backen

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > > I also find that a set of classes, well written and tested are the best > way to generate an application and they are easily updateable/modified > using either a bae class update or using subclassing. > - Isn't that what a fram

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Ted Roche
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > Frameworks are ok but only when you want to do the things that the framework > allows. What was it you wanted to do that the framework wouldn't? > I also find that a set of classes, well written and tested are the best way > to generate an

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Ajit Abraham
-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:31 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote:

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread José Enrique Llopis
++1 -Mensaje original- De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Jean Laeremans Enviado el: lunes, 07 de noviembre de 2016 16:57 Para: ProFox Email List Asunto: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? +1 On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Dave Crozier wrote

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Jean Laeremans
teable/modified > using either a bae class update or using subclassing. > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt > Sent: 07 November 2016 15:25 > To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: RE: Friday Poll: What fra

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Dave Crozier
-Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: 07 November 2016 15:25 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? Hey Ted - I hear ya - as I can also type fast. Learned touch-typing back in my Jr. year in high

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-07 Thread Kurt Wendt
2-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:31 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt We

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-06 Thread Lew Schwartz
Me too. -Lew Schwartz On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was willing > to pay. > > Laurie > > On 4 November 2016 at 14:29, Ted Roche wrote: > > > I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-06 Thread Laurie Alvey
Thanks Ed, didn't know that. Laurie On 5 November 2016 at 13:21, Edward Leafe wrote: > On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > > > Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was > willing > > to pay. > > Codebook was (still is) free. > > -- Ed Leafe > > > > > > [

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-05 Thread Edward Leafe
On Nov 4, 2016, at 9:41 AM, Laurie Alvey wrote: > Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was willing > to pay. Codebook was (still is) free. -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: ht

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-05 Thread Man-wai Chang
Actually, it is just a very simple one, so simple that I dunno whether it's a framework or not. :) On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > So, what framework(s) do you work with, and why (or why not)? _x_ Built my own -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! / v \ 64-bit Ubuntu 9

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-04 18:36, Bill Anderson wrote: To me this comes off a bit of "Floor Wax/Dessert Topping", except for one important feature -- it works. BWAHAHAHAHA LOVE THAT SNL SKIT!!! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscri

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-04 10:29, Ted Roche wrote: So, what framework(s) do you work with, and why (or why not)? __ Built my own Rolled my own years ago. Built on the logical n-tier concept. Been serving MBSS very well since 2004! ___ Post Messages to: ProF

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Bill Anderson
this comes off a bit of "Floor Wax/Dessert Topping", except for one important feature -- it works. Bill Anderson On Friday, November 4, 2016, Ted Roche wrote: > I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original > Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot i

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Kevin J Cully
s buy that framework for the projects that I've worked on. -Kevin -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 10:30 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use? So, what fram

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Ted - You must have a Lot of extra time on your hands - what with creating > all these Polls! I type fast. And it's not like I haven't thought about this stuff for 25 years. And my commute averages around zero minutes. > Myself - never reall

RE: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Kurt Wendt
sting classes to create new screens. But, that's about it... Regards, Kurt Wendt Senior Systems Analyst Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 10:30 AM T

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Gojko B.
Codemine Gojko B. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable Archive: http://leafe.com/archi

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Gojko B.
Codemine Gojko B. At 15:29 4.11.2016, you wrote: I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), Massachusetts. Imagine starting an application and not having to worry about how to get the menu working (Help, A

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 07:29 2016-11-04, Ted Roche wrote: [snip] So, what framework(s) do you work with, and why (or why not)? __ Built my own It is this or nothing. My boss has a way of asking for things that break my paradigm. I would rather be trying to rework my code than someone else's.

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-04 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 14:06 2016-11-03, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2016-11-03 14:24, Gene Wirchenko wrote: I have a routine that packs and reindexes all of the tables. I have not needed anything more involved. I do see some memo bloat. I have a table that stores configuration

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-11-04 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 12:06 2016-11-03, Ted Roche wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > As possibly the last to answer -- is there a prize? -- let me state > DBFs. Mostly just stirring the pot. There's a wealth of knowledge here. DBFs: 13 MS SQL Server: 8 1 each for everything el

Re: Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Laurie Alvey
Built my own. Couldn't afford the commercial ones and no client was willing to pay. Laurie On 4 November 2016 at 14:29, Ted Roche wrote: > I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original > Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), > Massachusetts. > >

Friday Poll: What framework(s) do you use?

2016-11-04 Thread Ted Roche
I've been an advocate for frameworks since I read the original Codebook book, sitting in a parking lot in Cambridge (our fair city), Massachusetts. Imagine starting an application and not having to worry about how to get the menu working (Help, About, Copy/Cut/Paste, Print settings) and getting ba

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
m: "mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com" To: ProFox Email List Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:14 PM Subject: Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)) On 2016-11-03 19:25, Richard Quilhot wrote: > Divide the

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-03 19:25, Richard Quilhot wrote: Divide the data into smaller DBF's then add code the select the correct small table that needs updating. Not an option at this point. Besides...this table has only ONE memo field. ___ Post Messages to:

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread Richard Quilhot
Divide the data into smaller DBF's then add code the select the correct small table that needs updating. Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > At 08:56 2016-11-03, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: > >> On 2016-10-28 10:24, Kevin J C

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-03 17:31, Charlie wrote: One thing I put into my design is working with temporary cursors or objects (aka from SCATTER MEMO NAME oDataRec). I rarely have user interface objects directly accessing DBFs. I did this years ago with my MBSS framework based upon your ideas when you p

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread Charlie
On 11/3/2016 2:24 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: [snip] I'm handling one of Jeff Johnson's (RIP) clients and having this issue. I was about to create a simple utility for the end-user to grab the table and pack it, but curious if you've got a better idea? One thing I put into my design is working w

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-03 14:24, Gene Wirchenko wrote: I have a routine that packs and reindexes all of the tables. I have not needed anything more involved. I do see some memo bloat. I have a table that stores configuration data. When packed, the .fpt is 1280 bytes. I see from the latest sent

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-11-03 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Gene Wirchenko wrote: > > As possibly the last to answer -- is there a prize? -- let me state > DBFs. > Mostly just stirring the pot. There's a wealth of knowledge here. DBFs: 13 MS SQL Server: 8 1 each for everything else: Azure, Excel, XML, SQLite, PostgreS

Re: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 08:56 2016-11-03, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2016-10-28 10:24, Kevin J Cully wrote: X DBFs - I have a client that insisted I use DBFs for his desktop and Web-Connection site. It's run almost flawlessly since 2008 with the exception of the 'memo field bloat' issue. T

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-11-03 Thread Gene Wirchenko
At 06:00 2016-10-28, Ted Roche wrote: So, where's your data stored today? __ DBFs __ MS SQL Server __ Azure __ Postgres __ My/MariaDB __ Oracle __ Excel __ Other (please specify) As possibly the last to answer -- is there a prize? -- let me state DBFs. [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wi

RE: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-11-03 12:14, Kevin J Cully wrote: I created a subclass of the wwMaint.prg and then put that behind an authentication. I then added various PACKing routines: Some pack all tables, others pack the "vulnerable to memo bloat" tables. The problem is getting exclusive access to the tables. I

RE: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread Kevin J Cully
lient. Tempted but I haven't gone through with it. -Kevin -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 11:57 AM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: 2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in

2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-10-28 10:24, Kevin J Cully wrote: X DBFs - I have a client that insisted I use DBFs for his desktop and Web-Connection site. It's run almost flawlessly since 2008 with the exception of the 'memo field bloat' issue. That's caught me a couple of times over the years hitting the 2G limit per

2 GB memo bloat in DBF used in WebConnection site (was RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-10-28 10:24, Kevin J Cully wrote: X DBFs - I have a client that insisted I use DBFs for his desktop and Web-Connection site. It's run almost flawlessly since 2008 with the exception of the 'memo field bloat' issue. That's caught me a couple of times over the years hitting the 2G limit pe

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-10-28 10:59, Peter Cushing wrote: __ DBFs Yup - sooner or later we will look to move to SQL but we don't want to rush into things LOL! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listin

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-11-03 Thread mbsoftwaresolutions
On 2016-10-28 09:00, Ted Roche wrote: So, where's your data stored today? __ DBFs __ MS SQL Server __ Azure __ Postgres __ My/MariaDB __ Oracle __ Excel __ Other (please specify) My backend data of choice for MBSS has been MySQL, and then MariaDB since it forked off from MySQL. Corpo

Re: SQLite & Thunderbird - (Was - RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-10-29 Thread Man-wai Chang
You may also consider creating another new account to test everything. Good luck! ;) On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: > Nope re/retent - newly sent also don't show up. > Am sure acct settings R fine - but will Chk tonight! > Thx, -- .~. Might, Courage, Vision. SINCERITY! /

Re: SQLite & Thunderbird - (Was - RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-10-29 Thread Kurt @ VR-FX
Nope re/retent - newly sent also don't show up. Am sure acct settings R fine - but will Chk tonight! Thx, -K- Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote: > > Were those messages marked expired and got deleted automatically? > Check account and server settings (Ret

Re: SQLite & Thunderbird - (Was - RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-10-29 Thread Man-wai Chang
Were those messages marked expired and got deleted automatically? Check account and server settings (Retention Policy)! Or were they saved in a different Sent folder? Again, check account and server settings. On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 1:08 AM, Kurt Wendt wrote: > Hate to pull this TOO Far off top

SQLite & Thunderbird - (Was - RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch))

2016-10-28 Thread Kurt Wendt
I even did some research on Google - but, could not seem to find a real answer to my problem. Regards, Kurt Wendt Senior Systems Analyst Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Vince Teachout Se

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Vince Teachout
On 10/28/2016 9:54 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: M$SQL 2012 VFP Databases SQLite How do you like SQLite, Dave? I've downloaded it and planning to start playing with it so I can start Android programming. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscri

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Malcolm Greene
>> I don't see SQLite mentioned much. > Single user and insecure so that kind of limits real-world usage to phone applications and similar local storage use cases, as far as I can see. You wouldn't be putting a big production database on it. The following from the SQLite email list. Sent from t

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Vince Teachout
On 10/28/2016 9:00 AM, Ted Roche wrote: So, where's your data stored today? MS Sql, followed by DBF ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://ma

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Alan Bourke
On Fri, 28 Oct 2016, at 04:20 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > I don't see SQLite mentioned much. Single user and insecure so that kind of limits real-world usage to phone applications and similar local storage use cases, as far as I can see. You wouldn't be putting a big production database on it. --

RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Kurt Wendt
Rush??? I suspect, however, you meant that kind of 'tongue in cheek'. Regards, Kurt Wendt Senior Systems Analyst Tel. +1-212-747-9100 www.GlobeTax.com -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Peter Cushing Sent: Friday, Octobe

RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Kurt Wendt
xTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 9:01 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch) So, where's your data stored today? __ DBFs __ MS SQL Server __ Azure __ Postgres __ My/MariaDB __ Oracle __

RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Dave Crozier
Ted, We use it to interface onto the Android tablets as it is obviously Android Native. Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: 28 October 2016 16:20 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash

RE: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread José Enrique Llopis
__ DBFs 80% clients __ MS SQL Server 20% clients Jose Enrique Llopis www.multilinkcrm.com -Mensaje original- De: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] En nombre de Ted Roche Enviado el: viernes, 28 de octubre de 2016 15:01 Para: profox@leafe.com Asunto: Friday Poll (while

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > M$SQL 2012 > VFP Databases > SQLite > > Dave > I don't see SQLite mentioned much. I've worked with it in a couple of situations (including a book by Whil Hentzen I edited) but haven't used it in a production system. _

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread Peter Cushing
On 28/10/2016 14:00, Ted Roche wrote: So, where's your data stored today? __ DBFs Yup - sooner or later we will look to move to SQL but we don't want to rush into things Peter This communication is intended for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed. The contents are confidentia

Re: Friday Poll (while dl'ing MS Flash Patch)

2016-10-28 Thread John R. Sowden
On 10/28/2016 06:00 AM, Ted Roche wrote: So, where's your data stored today? X_ DBFs __ MS SQL Server __ Azure __ Postgres __ My/MariaDB __ Oracle __ Excel __ Other (please specify) (P.S. Microsoft released an out-of-band (i.e., emergency) patch for Adobe Flash. You likely want to pat

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