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Sadly, I think MS will wiggle out with the explanation that their download was disclosed as part of an optional download available as part of Patch Tuesday. On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:28 AM, Jerry Wolper wrote: >> I suspect that my ISP will, quite reasonably, say that they

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> I suspect that my ISP will, quite reasonably, say that they are a > neutral conduit and it's between me and ms. > and it's really not worth the hassle for £7 . Hmm. For the ISP, all those £7 surcharges add up. It's probably worth pushing back a little just so they know someone is paying

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That's actually a GOOD Idea! -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:47 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Did you talk to your ISP asking for a special

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Did you talk to your ISP asking for a special waive? On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:02 PM, AndyHC wrote: > I just checked - the $Windows.~BT/Sources folder on my laptop (>4.5GB) was > created on 10th July; on 17th July I was hit with a surcharge from my ISP > for exceeding my

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-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Man-wai Chang Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:47 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Did you talk to your ISP asking for a special waive? On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:02 PM, AndyHC <jarnd...@gmail.com> wrote: I just c

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maybe time for a new thread? (we're 30 levels deep!) Thierry Nivelet FoxInCloud Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud http://foxincloud.com/ Le 21/09/2015 23:20, AndyHC a écrit : On 21/09/2015 18:09, Ted Roche wrote: Speaking of "Why Windows 10 Sucks," Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols takes

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I was not planning to change to Win10 on my laptop that has the 5.5GB ms. download, but I do have another PC (not online at present) that I *was* planning to upgrade - I wonder if I can just copy the $Windows folder to it? ___ Post Messages to:

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I just checked - the $Windows.~BT/Sources folder on my laptop (>4.5GB) was created on 10th July; on 17th July I was hit with a surcharge from my ISP for exceeding my 10GB monthly allowance, which has never happened before. Free upgrade! - thanks ms.

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What about the poor folks who have an ISP cap or even worse pay for their data.. Out of order mr M$ Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of AndyHC Sent: 21 September 2015 22:21 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks

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10GB? My kids burn through that every couple of days ... Yes, it is a dick move by Microsoft and I wouldn't be surprised to see a class action against them. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

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On 22/09/2015 10:02, AndyHC wrote: I just checked - the $Windows.~BT/Sources folder on my laptop (>4.5GB) was created on 10th July; on 17th July I was hit with a surcharge from my ISP for exceeding my 10GB monthly allowance, which has never happened before. Free upgrade! - thanks ms. You

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...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of AndyHC Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 5:02 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. I just checked - the $Windows.~BT/Sources folder on my laptop (>4.5GB) was created on 10th July; on 17th July I was hit with a surcharge from my

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Speaking of "Why Windows 10 Sucks," Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols takes to ComputerWorld to voice his opinion on "Windows 10, the stealth OS" http://www.computerworld.com/article/2984729/microsoft-windows/windows-10-the-stealth-os.html It is an interesting new maneuver by MS to actually download the

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Speaking of "Why Windows 10 Sucks," Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols takes to ComputerWorld to voice his opinion on "Windows 10, the stealth OS" http://www.computerworld.com/article/2984729/microsoft-windows/windows-10-the-stealth-os.html It is an interesting new maneuver by MS to actually download

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Holy Crap - yeah, I'd say 6GB is a pretty HEFTY Stealth download! -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 1:09 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Speaking of &quo

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On 21/09/2015 18:09, Ted Roche wrote: Speaking of "Why Windows 10 Sucks," Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols takes to ComputerWorld to voice his opinion on "Windows 10, the stealth OS" http://www.computerworld.com/article/2984729/microsoft-windows/windows-10-the-stealth-os.html It is an interesting new

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of data into the whole of a CSV file. Try doeing that in notepad!!! Dave -Original Message- From: ProFox [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dan Covill Sent: 14 September 2015 18:41 To: ProFox <profox@leafe.com> Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Me too. Once I

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:08 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: > I love the product as it is just so easy to manipulate the data when you have > to do things like insert a new column of data into the whole of a CSV file. > Try doeing that in notepad!!! I'd be inclined to use a

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"How to Uninstall 23 Apps You Didn't Know You Had" sure sounds like clickbait to me, but the article is interesting: http://www.itworld.com/article/2983665/windows-apps/how-to-uninstall-default-windows-10-apps-you-never-knew-you-had.html My Win10 beef of the week (bearing in mind it's only

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It sounds like trying to get Excel to let. the hell. GO. of CSV files. Why would anyone sane edit CSV files in Excel anyway. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

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@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. On 14/09/2015 16:41, Ted Roche wrote: > What would you have people use? Word? > > Excel's pretty smart about parsing CSV or delimited files, it makes > neat columns, it lets people highlight, color or style items they have > questions

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A good text editor is the best way for CSV files. On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Peter Cushing < pcush...@whisperingsmith.com> wrote: > > On 14/09/2015 16:41, Ted Roche wrote: > >> What would you have people use? Word? >> >> Excel's pretty smart about parsing CSV or delimited files, it makes

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > It sounds like trying to get Excel to let. the hell. GO. of CSV files. > Why would anyone sane edit CSV files in Excel anyway. What would you have people use? Word? Excel's pretty smart about parsing CSV or

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On 14/09/2015 16:41, Ted Roche wrote: What would you have people use? Word? Excel's pretty smart about parsing CSV or delimited files, it makes neat columns, it lets people highlight, color or style items they have questions about, do quick and dirty calculations on the results,... for most

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I like Notepad++ John Weller 01380 723235 079763 93631 Sent from my iPad ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

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I’ve used Foxit Reader for several years now. Way simpler and faster than Adobe. Dan > On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > > "How to Uninstall 23 Apps You Didn't Know You Had" sure sounds like > clickbait to me, but the article is interesting: > >

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Me too. Once I learn to use it (!) it should be great for making sense out of those damned contact export files the email outfits generate, with 150 columns in random orders! Take a look at the screen shot on the developer’s own site - helps a lot. http://csved.sjfrancke.nl/ Dan > On Sep

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Horses for courses :-) John Weller 01380 723235 079763 93631 Sent from my iPad > On 14 Sep 2015, at 19:06, Ted Roche wrote: > > Well, sure there are lots of tools for us power users. I was talking > about muggles; corporate drones who can't install software on their >

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > Me too. > > Once I learn to use it (!) it should be great for making sense out of > those damned contact > export files the email outfits generate, with 150 columns in random orders! > > Take a look at the screen shot

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On 14/09/2015 16:57, Dave Crozier wrote: Take a look at CSVED I use it all the time and it is free... and portable if you want that version. http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=1101 Just having a play with it now. Looks very interesting. Cheers Dave. Peter This communication is

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Peter Cushing > Sent: 14 September 2015 16:54 > To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. > > > On 14/09/2015 16:41, Ted Roche wrote: >> What would you have people use? Word? >> >> Excel's pretty smart about parsing CSV or delimited files,

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ct: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. > From: tedro...@gmail.com > To: profoxt...@leafe.com > > Notepad ++ is the Windows version of SciTE, the Scintilla Text Editor. > Scintilla was intended to be a cross-platform GUI library like GTK or > WXWidgets, but I don't think it ha

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On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Dan Covill wrote: > Looks pretty professional. Does it have any special provisions for CSV > files? > > I’ve used EditPad Pro for many years now, and have been very satisfied. I > just wish they > had one that would run on Mac - haven’t

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r, although I do maintain an HTML website. So my use would depend > on setting it up as a fixed-font text editor. > > Will think about and maybe try it later this week. > Thanks again for the info. > > Dan > >> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 15:41:02 -0400 >> Subject: Re

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To echo earlier comments I either use CSVEdit, or Notepad++, and its handy column selection ability. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 14 Sep 2015, at 04:41 PM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Alan Bourke > wrote: > >

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Notepad ++ is the Windows version of SciTE, the Scintilla Text Editor. Scintilla was intended to be a cross-platform GUI library like GTK or WXWidgets, but I don't think it has a big following. SciTE is available for OS X as well: http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 3:12

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Looks pretty professional. Does it have any special provisions for CSV files? I’ve used EditPad Pro for many years now, and have been very satisfied. I just wish they had one that would run on Mac - haven’t found a good general purpose text editor on Mac yet. Dan > On Sep 14, 2015, at

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On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Allen wrote: > I have an acer laptop and a desktop here that both said no to video drivers. > Desktop easy, get a new video card. Not so easy with the laptop. However > removing the drivers put the laptop on windows drivers and they

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. Don't do ISO, my sister did and it said her windows ID was wrong. Al -Original Message- From: Ted Roche Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 4:05 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. It might not, the machine is at least 8 years old, a Dell Workstation

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Just remove KB3035583 from Installed Updates! :) ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://mail.leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech Searchable

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activity! -K- -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dan Covill Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:50 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Another example. Went to the Apple store yesterday

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And on the controlling updates tip: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2976681/microsoft-windows/microsoft-to-deliver-windows-10s-business-update-service-in-stages.html Looks like even if I get a Win 10 business box to tinker with, I may not be able to keep it from installing FUBARed updates

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On 28 August 2015 at 16:59, Ken Dibble krdib...@stny.rr.com wrote: And on the controlling updates tip: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2976681/microsoft-windows/microsoft-to-deliver-windows-10s-business-update-service-in-stages.html Looks like even if I get a Win 10 business box to

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: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:52 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Don't think that'll do. I have it from good source that for example ws encryption algorithms had

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Yeah, developers are a tiny percentage of the zillions of users of computers. Scientists need huge displays for data visualization, financial traders for complex displays, etc. Many other folks are running their business just fine on tiny screens for email, texts, hard as it is to believe, Word

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Will do next time I change version. On 27/08/15 07:19, Paul Hill wrote: On 26 August 2015 at 23:18, Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote: Ubuntu since version 12.01 does send the text of your local searches to Canonical which in turn relays them to Amazon so that online Amazon search results

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Ha HA Ted - Ur a Rip! -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:00 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Sharp as a tack, Kurt. Exactly right. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015

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expedite the sales process. So - in this instance - a Tablet is perfect! Enough said... -K- -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 10:00 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10

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Honestly - I think there is VAST Potential for Developers to create specialized Apps for Tablets. Yes, there are. Any use case where somebody has to walk around and then at some point go back to a PC to enter things as a result of walking around is a prime target for this. -- Alan Bourke

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thinks not... Right Ted?? :-) -K- -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 8:52 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Don't think that'll do. I have it from good

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To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Don't think that'll do. I have it from good source that for example ws encryption algorithms had to be sent as source code to nsa, to be returned as object code which would then be used in the OS. If key parts of the OS followed said

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Isn't Mint based on Ubuntu? Did they take away the spyware? On 27/08/15 07:52, Ted Roche wrote: Luckily, Linux's plan for world domination doesn't require desktops :) Everyone else is abandoning the desktops for tablets, phones and mobile anyway. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Alan Bourke

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- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Dan Covill Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 12:50 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Another example.   Went to the Apple store yesterday and bought a MacBook Air.  The demonstrator/salesperson used

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In true Linux fragmentation style, standard Mint is based on both Debian and Ubuntu. Linux Mint Debian Edition is just based on Debian. Within those two, there are multiple choices of user interface (Cinnamon, Mate, KDE, Xfce) and within that versions that do or do not bundle codecs and OEM

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.   So it occurs to me, are they planning to send my mumbling along with my typing and inking? Dan Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:56:51 +0800 Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. From: chan...@gmail.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Anyone wanna talk about

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system.   And they're using a desktop! Dan From: kurt_we...@globetax.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:18:47 + Honestly - I think there is VAST Potential for Developers to create

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Anyone wanna talk about the privacy issue in Win 10 free upgrade, about the clause Sending typing and inking to Micro$oft...? I dunno whether it meant a keylogger. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: ... because you know I had to repost it:

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On 26 August 2015 at 23:18, Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote: Ubuntu since version 12.01 does send the text of your local searches to Canonical which in turn relays them to Amazon so that online Amazon search results will be displayed on your machine when you search for anything within

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Don't support such blatent commercialisation of a free OS. Unfortunately it never will be the year of Linux on the desktop without things like Ubuntu. Mint seems to be overtaking it a bit now though. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

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Luckily, Linux's plan for world domination doesn't require desktops :) Everyone else is abandoning the desktops for tablets, phones and mobile anyway. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 6:27 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: Don't support such blatent commercialisation of a free OS.

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I dont think I will be developing on a tablet for a while. Unless they get larger screens Al -Original Message- Luckily, Linux's plan for world domination doesn't require desktops :) Everyone else is abandoning the desktops for tablets, phones and mobile anyway.

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Only in the last couple of versions and it can be disabled, which is not the case with other products. On 26/08/15 16:18, Alan Bourke wrote: Ubuntu does too, although I'm guessing you use a different distro. ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

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Ubuntu does too, although I'm guessing you use a different distro. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, at 07:04 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Oh, I absolutely agree! My primary OS is Linux so I can have a lot more control of my choices. However, I have to

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At 16:48 2015-08-24, Ricardo Araoz ricar...@gmail.com wrote: Your OS should be like your wife, it shouldn't be allowed to testify against you :P If you really loved me, you would not be upgrading to that Other OS. You think that 10 can talk? Wait till you see what I've got on you!

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Oh, I absolutely agree! My primary OS is Linux so I can have a lot more control of my choices. However, I have to support clients on OS X and Windows, so I need to know how those platforms work and how I might run them safely within my office network. My clients will have issues running standard

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Am I right that no one at MSoft (with the actual ability to 'know') has ever denied that MSoft has installed back door access in Windows for governmental use? Not that there's anything wrong with that! he said to the people in his computer. Mike Ricardo Araoz wrote: Ubuntu since version

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Ubuntu since version 12.01 does send the text of your local searches to Canonical which in turn relays them to Amazon so that online Amazon search results will be displayed on your machine when you search for anything within Unity. Anyway you go to system settings/privacy and there you have a

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Don't think that'll do. I have it from good source that for example ws encryption algorithms had to be sent as source code to nsa, to be returned as object code which would then be used in the OS. If key parts of the OS followed said path then there's nothing you can do about it. On 26/08/15

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IF $MESSAGE$NSA OR $MESSAGE$government SET $SUBJECT TO [OT] + $SUBJECT ENDIF On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Mike Copeland m...@ggisoft.com wrote: Am I right that no one at MSoft (with the actual ability to 'know') has ever denied that MSoft has installed back door access in Windows for

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On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: Ubuntu does too, although I'm guessing you use a different distro. Ubuntu does too, what? Not an Ubu user, what are they up to? Mostly I'm a Fedora, RedHat and CentOS user. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC

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Nice one Ricardo - Very funny!!! -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Araoz Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:49 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Your OS should be like your wife, it shouldn't

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Your OS should be like your wife, it shouldn't be allowed to testify against you :P On 24/08/15 02:40, Jerry Wolper wrote: Well, pirates get what they deserve. I'm far more concerned about the false positives where MS decides VFP software named YourApp.EXE is pirated and disable it. Call me a

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I've been using Windows 10 for a couple of weeks and not had any problems - but then I don't use pirated software :-) John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 On Sat, 22 Aug 2015, at 11:20 PM, Ted Roche wrote: And the next Win10 revelation: 'Free' Windows 10 Makes Expensive Software

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Well, pirates get what they deserve. I'm far more concerned about the false positives where MS decides VFP software named YourApp.EXE is pirated and disable it. Oops, there I go, going On-Topic again :) On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 12:04 PM, John Weller j...@johnweller.co.uk wrote: I've been using

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Largely FUD I would guess. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Sat, 22 Aug 2015, at 11:20 PM, Ted Roche wrote: And the next Win10 revelation: 'Free' Windows 10 Makes Expensive Software Changes

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Yeah, I was cynical, too. The article comes with the primateur of the forbes domain, but I think essentially it's a blog, and the commentary is pretty speculative, IOW, likely not reviewed and without the journalism/editorial requirements of Forbes the magazine. The TOS certainly seems

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I don't even know if it's been used on Xbox much. The 360 is non-trivial to get working with pirated games, and the One remains unhacked. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Sun, 23 Aug 2015, at 01:51 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Yeah, I was cynical, too. The article comes with

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This is a (partial) reply to the original question on how well VFP 9 Apps work in Windows 10. Short answer: very well, but some of that may because I have taken great pains to minimize my exposure to the extraneous complexity beloved of Microsoft. I've been in the Preview program since October

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And here's an interesting fact-based piece (vs. the earlier speculative Forbes piece) on how changes in Win 10 are a problem for some people, in this case, with gigabytes stored in OneDrive: I like Windows 10 but I'm going back to Windows 8.1

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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 18:20:57 -0400 Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. From: tedro...@gmail.com To: profoxt...@leafe.com And the next Win10 revelation: 'Free' Windows 10 Makes Expensive Software Changes http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/17/windows-10s

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Well, pirates get what they deserve. I'm far more concerned about the false positives where MS decides VFP software named YourApp.EXE is pirated and disable it. Call me a hopeless romantic, but I prefer my operating system to, you know, operate the system, not to worry about what software or

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And the next Win10 revelation: 'Free' Windows 10 Makes Expensive Software Changes http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/17/windows-10s-pirated-software-searches/ ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

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It might not, the machine is at least 8 years old, a Dell Workstation (Optiplex 745) with an oddball ATI card. Took forever to find a driver on the internet and get it working, and I'm pretty sure it was an ancient driver. The Windows 10 setup prompts something like let's check if your machine is

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Doug Hennig had tweeted that he had updated one of this workstations and everything went well. Let's cross our fingers and hope it survives the updates :) On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Mike Copeland m...@ggisoft.com wrote: Alan Bourke wrote: We've had a few mom and pop customers, i.e. not

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On 2015-08-17 14:23, Ted Roche wrote: This sounds like it should automatically disqualify Windows for any confidential work: HIPAA, stock trading, banking, government work, etc. Agreed! Sounds like a nightmare scenario for privacy leaks. ___ Post

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On 18 August 2015 at 15:25, Ted Roche tedro...@gmail.com wrote: I have an old, old graphics card in one Windows 8.1 machine that will likely never be supported, but the icon still hangs around. It will probably work fine. The driver model hasn't changed in ages (Vista?). After upgrading you

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In just under a year -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, at 11:08 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: U know when free period runs out??? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug

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7/29/16 Mike Copeland Alan Bourke wrote: In just under a year -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, at 11:08 PM, Kurt @ VR-FX wrote: U know when free period runs out??? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

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the Install when I decide to actually Upgrade the OS? I suspect it's the later... -K- -Original Message- From: ProfoxTech [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ted Roche Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 2:24 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks

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] On Behalf Of Kurt Wendt Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 9:51 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks.. Hey there Ted, I completely understand about your posting this original thread as Info - and not your personal opinion. My main CG workstation at home has Win7. And, I

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On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Richard Kaye rk...@invaluable.com wrote: If you've got the home version there's probably a little teaser sitting in your system tray to upgrade to W10. At least that's what I saw on my wife's laptop last night while I was doing some home IT. Works for the

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U know when free period runs out??? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2015, at 11:56 AM, Alan Bourke alanpbou...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, at 02:50 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: This leads me to believe that maybe I should just Stick w/Win7 and I will be fine. Unless you have

Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, at 02:50 PM, Kurt Wendt wrote: This leads me to believe that maybe I should just Stick w/Win7 and I will be fine. Unless you have a compelling reason to upgrade or curiosity about Windows 10 I would stay on Windows 7, at least until just before the 'get it for free'

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Alan Bourke wrote: We've had a few mom and pop customers, i.e. not on Pro and corporate licencing, that have self upgraded. Core VFP9 seems fine in terms of our product. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm Same here...I have a VFP9 SP2 application that uses ActiveX extensively,

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We've had a few mom and pop customers, i.e. not on Pro and corporate licencing, that have self upgraded. Core VFP9 seems fine in terms of our product. -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm On Mon, 17 Aug 2015, at 07:23 PM, Ted Roche wrote: Just in case you are just joining

Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

Just in case you are just joining this thread, already in progress, I want to point out that Windows 10 Sucks was an article title, and not the personal nor professional opinion of the humble original poster, moi. Windows 10 is where you want to go today if you're on the MS bandwagon, or being

Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

Thank you Ted On 8/17/2015 11:23 AM, Ted Roche wrote: Just in case you are just joining this thread, already in progress, I want to point out that Windows 10 Sucks was an article title, and not the personal nor professional opinion of the humble original poster, moi. Windows 10 is where you

Re: [NF] Why Windows 10 Sucks..

On Fri, 14 Aug 2015, at 01:36 AM, Ted Roche wrote: Hosts file... I had read there were issues,but that appears to be a red herring. Having upgraded two laptops without issue I would say that it appears to be what I assumed it would be, which is largely Windows 8.5 with a re-engineered UI.

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On 8/14/2015 3:09 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2015-08-14 14:02, Ted Roche wrote: snipped ... free to be browsed by police departments, potential employers, insurance companies, and anyone willing to pay a few dollars to look you up. That seems very paranoid and

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On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Vince Teachout tea...@taconic.net wrote: On 8/14/2015 3:09 PM, mbsoftwaresoluti...@mbsoftwaresolutions.com wrote: On 2015-08-14 14:02, Ted Roche wrote: snipped ... free to be browsed by police departments, potential employers, insurance companies, and anyone

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