RE: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Gil Hale
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul McNett Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials Jeff Johnson wrote: I just saw a new Microsoft commercial. Everyone - including Bill Gates - says I'm a PC

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Pete Theisen
Gil Hale wrote: On the bright side, I can still deploy compiled VFP apps without paying any additional fees to M$ g... Hi Gil! They can change that any time they want by slipping a new EULA in with a security update. They have already done this. -- Regards, Pete http://pete-theisen.com/

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Pete Theisen
Pete Theisen wrote: Gil Hale wrote: On the bright side, I can still deploy compiled VFP apps without paying any additional fees to M$ g... Hi Gil! They can change that any time they want by slipping a new EULA in with a security update. They have already done this. When they did it:

RE: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread David Smith
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Microsoft Commercials They should probably suspend all advertising campaigns until this crisis is over. Which crisis? Apple sales increasing at an increasing rate, Linux use increasing at an increasing rate, hard-to-ignore-any-longer howling of PC users

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2008-09-25 Thread Gil Hale
. EULAs issued with updates are wasted on me. Bring it on! Gil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pete Theisen Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 6:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials Gil Hale wrote

RE: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Gil Hale
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials Pete Theisen wrote: Gil Hale wrote: On the bright side, I can still deploy compiled VFP apps without paying any additional fees to M$ g... Hi Gil! They can change that any time they want by slipping a new EULA

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2008-09-25 Thread Gil Hale
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] Microsoft Commercials What He said! :) David Smith Systems Administrator Doan Family of Dealerships (585) 352-6600 ext.1730 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.upstatedigitools.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: I just saw a new Microsoft commercial. Everyone - including Bill Gates - says I'm a PC. It will be interesting to see how they move to plan C. And all except for Bill were paid for their endorsement. -- Ed Leafe

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2008-09-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: I just saw a new Microsoft commercial. Everyone - including Bill Gates - says I'm a PC. It will be interesting to see how they move to plan C. And it's so... original.

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2008-09-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
Ed: Do you know that for certain, or are you making an assumption? Why wouldn't they pay Bill? ;^) Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ed Leafe wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote:

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2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:56 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: Ed: Do you know that for certain, or are you making an assumption? Why wouldn't they pay Bill? ;^) OK, I just assumed Bill wouldn't be paying himself. But as for the rest, according to a Microsoft spokesperson: Microsoft sent out

RE: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Rick Schummer
Heh Jeff, It will be interesting to see how they move to plan C. We have always said Microsoft takes three versions to get it right g. Commercials v3.0. Whether you think they are good or not, whether you think people are getting paid for their endorsement or not, these commercials are

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote: Heh Jeff, It will be interesting to see how they move to plan C. We have always said Microsoft takes three versions to get it right g. Commercials v3.0. Whether you think they are good or not, whether you think people are getting paid for their endorsement or not,

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Jeff Johnson wrote: I just saw a new Microsoft commercial. Everyone - including Bill Gates - says I'm a PC. It will be interesting to see how they move to plan C. And all except for Bill were paid for their endorsement. -- Ed Leafe

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Gil Hale wrote: My gut tells me the EULA additive restrictions would not hold up in court, eventually. But who wants to take on the expense involved in proving that point? Not me. ive with what we have, update and be more restricted, or defy the restirctions and do what we want anyway (come

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Gil Hale wrote: They should probably suspend all advertising campaigns until this crisis is over. Which crisis? Apple sales increasing at an increasing rate, Linux use increasing at an increasing rate, hard-to-ignore-any-longer howling of PC users in pain with Vista being jammed down our

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2008-09-25 Thread Jeff Johnson
Rick: I love commercials, especially good ones. Ones that get your attention, you can remember the product, and you want to buy the product or service. Two out of three ain't bad. ;^) Jeff Jeff Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] SanDC, Inc. 623-582-0323 Fax 623-869-0675 Phoenix Python User Group -

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Rick Schummer wrote: Whether you think they are good or not, whether you think people are getting paid for their endorsement or not, these commercials are working because they are generating threads like this on forums, and blogs, and twitter, and other

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:42 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: So what? The MAC vs. PC commercial actors are all paid too. I don't see the point of your comment. Really? The Apple ads are not in any way attempting to portray the actors as ordinary, regular

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:42 AM, MB Software Solutions General Account wrote: lol! Gil, I'm amused by the phrase increasing at an increasing rate... Would there ever be a situation where it's decreasing at an increasing rate. ??? g Skip calculus class? Don't know the difference

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What crap will they come up with next to get us talking about them? Well, they seem to keep you talking ... :) -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

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2008-09-25 Thread Ted Roche
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . Did you not pick up on that? I just assumed that anyone with enough brains to figure out how to turn on a television in the first place TWEET! Ad hominem! Off-sides! OT! Yellow card! -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC

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2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Ted Roche wrote: . Did you not pick up on that? I just assumed that anyone with enough brains to figure out how to turn on a television in the first place TWEET! Ad hominem! Off-sides! OT! Yellow card! I simply don't accept the premise that there is no

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:21 AM, Ted Roche wrote: What crap will they come up with next to get us talking about them? Well, they seem to keep you talking ... :) Yep, and before you know it, I'll be a Microsoft fanboi, too! -- Ed Leafe

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2008-09-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Ed Leafe wrote: Skip calculus class? Don't know the difference between a first and second derivative? The nightmares I had with calculus!!! Ugh...thanks for that unpleasant memory, Ed! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

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2008-09-25 Thread Dave Crozier
Q: What is the first derivative of a cow? A: Prime Rib! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions General Account Sent: 25 September 2008 15:49 To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials Ed

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2008-09-25 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Dave Crozier wrote: Q: What is the first derivative of a cow? A: Prime Rib! Please don't go into the second derivative then! ;-) -- Ed Leafe ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance:

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2008-09-25 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Dave Crozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q: What is the first derivative of a cow? A: Prime Rib! -- nope Milk! Second is Steak, roast, stew meat. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Mimeo.com Memphis TN 901.246-0159

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2008-09-25 Thread Rick Schummer
Two out of three ain't bad. ;^) Thanks for the laughter Jeff. Seriously made me laugh out loud. As have several other posts in this thread. Ed as a Microsoft fanboy almost made me pull an abdominal muscle. g Rick White Light Computing, Inc. www.whitelightcomputing.com www.swfox.net

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2008-09-25 Thread Whil Hentzen
lol! Gil, I'm amused by the phrase increasing at an increasing rate... Would there ever be a situation where it's decreasing at an increasing rate. ??? g Actually, yes. :) Suppose the stock market is dropping 10 points a day for a month. Then on day 32 it drops 11 points, then on day

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Whil Hentzen wrote: Actually, yes. :) Suppose the stock market is dropping 10 points a day for a month. Then on day 32 it drops 11 points, then on day 33 it drops 12 points, on day 34 it drops 13 points. It's dropping (decreasing) at an increasing rate. When something increases at the same

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Peter Cushing
Whil Hentzen wrote: When something increases at the same rate, velocity is constant, acceleration is 0. When velocity increases, acceleration is 0. When velocity decreases, acceleration is 0. AKA deceleration. Peter

RE: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Charlie Coleman
At 09:23 AM 9/25/2008 -0400, Rick Schummer wrote: Heh Jeff, It will be interesting to see how they move to plan C. We have always said Microsoft takes three versions to get it right g. Commercials v3.0. Whether you think they are good or not, whether you think people are getting paid for

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-25 Thread Ken Dibble
Whether you think they are good or not, whether you think people are getting paid for their endorsement or not, these commercials are working because they are generating threads like this on forums, and blogs, and twitter, and other social networking sites, and come up in conversations

Re: [NF] Microsoft Commercials

2008-09-24 Thread Paul McNett
Jeff Johnson wrote: I just saw a new Microsoft commercial. Everyone - including Bill Gates - says I'm a PC. It will be interesting to see how they move to plan C. They should probably suspend all advertising campaigns until this crisis is over. Paul