RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-17 Thread Allen
notice. Or maybe care. Al -Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Aráoz Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:33 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? Allen wrote: Maybe paranoid

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-17 Thread Geoff Flight
I find that unlikely. It seems rather draconian and a little 'conspiracy-like' -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Allen Sent: Friday, 17 April 2009 5:56 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] more secure or less threats? I

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-17 Thread Allen
...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Flight Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:58 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] more secure or less threats? I find that unlikely. It seems rather draconian and a little 'conspiracy-like

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? [OT]

2009-04-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Geoff Flight wrote: I find that unlikely. It seems rather draconian and a little 'conspiracy-like' Hi Geoff! It does seem that way, but actually, every now and then there are those within the government who have a them (citizens) vs us (saviors) mentality. The recent Janet Napolitano memo is

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? [OT]

2009-04-17 Thread Pete Theisen
Pete Theisen wrote: Geoff Flight wrote: I find that unlikely. It seems rather draconian and a little 'conspiracy-like' Hi Geoff! It does seem that way, but actually, every now and then there are those within the government who have a them (citizens) vs us (saviors) mentality. The

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-16 Thread Allen
Maybe paranoid people should not go online then. Al -Original Message- Did you read my post? MS and NSA have had and currently have clear and easy access to anything in your W$ machine. That is meant to be this way and it is NOT changing at all.

Re: RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-16 Thread charliegc
Apr 16, 2009 04:49:11 AM, profox@leafe.com wrote:Maybe paranoid people should not go online then.Al --Or maybe naive people shouldn't be allowed to be computer professionals?(dang, that'd knock out all those MS certified-blah-blah pretty fast,

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-16 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Allen wrote: Maybe paranoid people should not go online then. Al I happen to know a former MS partner (encryption area) who told me his source code had to be sent first to n s a which returned the compiled code to be included in W$. We can only guess what they did to the code. Maybe

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-15 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Paaa, badabadabadabadaammm!!! And now! The MicroShit add of the day, folks! I have Vista and find no trouble taking it between different clients and working with their networks. Are you forcing it to act like Win2000 ? ___ Post Messages

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-15 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Gil Hale RR wrote: very core of the OS, as opposed to the Windows bolt-on, add apps, based security solution afterthought. I still do not trust security on my Windows machines, despite all the protections I have in place, as I know something can still sneak into my machinery if I am careless

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-15 Thread Stephen Russell
2009/4/15 Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com: Gil Hale RR wrote: very core of the OS, as opposed to the Windows bolt-on, add apps, based security solution afterthought.  I still do not trust security on my Windows machines, despite all the protections I have in place, as I know something can

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-15 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
On Wed, April 15, 2009 10:25 am, Stephen Russell wrote: So why upgrade to each new version put out? You get a better OS to protect you. Unfortunate that important point is lost on this group. Oh well. You paint with too wide of a brush. That's not accurate at all. It might be lost of

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-15 Thread Ricardo Aráoz
Stephen Russell wrote: 2009/4/15 Ricardo Aráoz ricar...@gmail.com: Gil Hale RR wrote: very core of the OS, as opposed to the Windows bolt-on, add apps, based security solution afterthought. I still do not trust security on my Windows machines, despite all the protections I have in

[NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Stephen Russell
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4146tag=nl.e539 Secure is a mindset, and not an actual state, right? Things change in the industry as well as new threats detected. How fast the vendors ;- roll with those threats. -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Web and Windows

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Gil Hale RR
-Original Message- From: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech- boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 9:48 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: [NF] more secure or less threats? http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=4146tag=nl.e539

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread mike
BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:10:24 To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] more secure or less threats? I suppose that if I ran all the protections within Vista made available, and hung my AntiVirus/AntiMalware/AntiAnti

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Gil Hale RR
...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? If you really want to make your computer secure, just unplug that black cable that runs from the wall outlet to your power supply on your pc. I am fairly certain that that would make it nearly impossible for your pc to become

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Michael Madigan
In the pre-Internet days I had a client who would unplug his modem between PCAnywhere sessions. --- On Tue, 4/14/09, m...@mikewohlrab.com m...@mikewohlrab.com wrote: From: m...@mikewohlrab.com m...@mikewohlrab.com Subject: Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? To: profox@leafe.com Date

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I suppose that if I ran all the protections within Vista made available, and hung my AntiVirus/AntiMalware/AntiAnti apps onto the machine, along with both a hardware and software firewall that really tightened things

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Gil Hale RR
secure or less threats? On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I suppose that if I ran all the protections within Vista made available, and hung my AntiVirus/AntiMalware/AntiAnti apps onto the machine, along with both a hardware and software firewall

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I am not forcing Vista to do anything.  It is the other way around. Is there an AD or is it all a peer network? -- Stephen Russell Sr. Production Systems Programmer Web and Windows

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Gil Hale RR
: profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech- boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:08 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I am

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: but with the Web Craze that has become so prevalent even that is beginning to diminish. -- You think that companies are retreating from the web? Now that is a funny statement. -- Stephen

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Gil Hale RR
...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 3:29 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: but with the Web Craze that has become so prevalent even

Re: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Read a little less aggressively.  even that refers to internal File Servers being used at my client locations, where the manufacturers they deal with are moving deeper into web based solutions.

RE: [NF] more secure or less threats?

2009-04-14 Thread Gil Hale RR
, 2009 3:40 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] more secure or less threats? On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Gil Hale RR mrgmh...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Read a little less aggressively.  even that refers to internal File Servers being used at my client locations, where