Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-25 Thread MB Software Solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know what's worse is the headhunters don't have a clue what they're asking for You really can tell that when they misspell or put things together that don't make sense. -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-25 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: How do they do source control on the stored procedures? We create the database, and every object in it all the same code generation run. Well the VB.NET comes first and then the SQL data. Basically we just crank out via a

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-25 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: MB Software Solutions wrote: How do they do source control on the stored procedures? We create the database, and every object in it all the same code generation run. Well the VB.NET comes first and then the SQL data. Basically

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-25 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote: So they recreate the database creation scripts every time? Only as needed. As we start to gen testing data we don't want to destroy it in a drop database. So if changes are made to the stored procedures, they're not immediately logged into the source

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Alan Lukachko
Rick, Are the white FoxPro mugs from the San Diego (??) Devcon that had a fox in red,blue and purple? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Schummer Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:25 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] feed your

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Rick Schummer
Are the white FoxPro mugs from the San Diego (??) Devcon that had a fox in red,blue and purple? You are describing the same mug. I don't recall getting them in San Diego (1995), which was a great swag year with the grey sweat shirts discussed here. Rick White Light Computing, Inc.

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Stephen the Cook
Alan Lukachko wrote: Rick, Are the white FoxPro mugs from the San Diego (??) Devcon that had a fox in red,blue and purple? I got my couple @ devCon in Phoenix back around 92 or so. Also got one for registering FP as well. Stephen Russell DBA / .Net Developer Memphis TN 38115

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/24/07, Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the white FoxPro mugs from the San Diego (??) Devcon that had a fox in red,blue and purple? I received two when I ordered FoxPro 2.0, I believe, though maybe 2.5. Did the colors match the platform - Dos, LAN and Mac? Or was UNIX in there?

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:51 PM Ed Leafe wrote: snipped I have my name badge from 12 Fox Devcons, 1 Mid-Atlantic conference, 2 SoCal conferences, 2 FoxTeach conferences, 1 GLGDW, 1 FoxForward, and 4 PyCons. I also have the binders from most of the early Devcons, when I thought I would

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Fleck, Timothy
: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] feed your inner geek On 1/24/07, Alan Lukachko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are the white FoxPro mugs from the San Diego (??) Devcon that had a fox in red,blue and purple? I received two when I ordered FoxPro 2.0, I believe

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Fleck, Timothy wrote: I worked in Tech Support at Fox Software. The Colors were for DOS, Mac and SCO Unix. These were developed for the FoxBase+ rollout. We sold them at Devcon 1 in Toledo, OH. Tim Fleck Hi Tim! So do you still work with Foxpro on a regular basis today? Versions? --

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Fleck, Timothy
Solutions Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] feed your inner geek Fleck, Timothy wrote: I worked in Tech Support at Fox Software. The Colors were for DOS, Mac and SCO Unix. These were developed for the FoxBase+ rollout. We sold them at Devcon 1

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Fleck, Timothy wrote: I keep trying to get away from FOX, but they keep pulling me back! I was in Toledo for many years working on and creating VFP programs to be prototypes to be upsized to larger systems but the Fox did the trick on the cheap. I am now in Los Angeles. I keep working on

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread David Crooks
On Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:14 PM Timothy Fleck wrote: I keep trying to get away from FOX, but they keep pulling me back! I was in Toledo for many years working on and creating VFP programs to be prototypes to be upsized to larger systems but the Fox did the trick on the cheap. I am now

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread vbiersch
another thong it excels at is sql server inserts instead of using dts -Original Message- From: MB Software Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: Re: [NF] feed your inner geek Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:22 pm Size: 1K To: profox@leafe.com Fleck, Timothy wrote: I keep trying to get away

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another thong it excels at is sql server inserts instead of using dts Wonder if Steve Russell would agree with you or not? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Fleck, Timothy
warehouse. Sounds like it IS time to hit the WEB! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Crooks Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] feed your inner geek On Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:14 PM

Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Fleck, Timothy wrote: snipped The only problem is that FoxPro has become a bad word around here. It has been like that for MANY places for some time now! Developers who don't deserve to be called developers wrote shitty code and the stakeholders simply blamed it on the Fox. At least that's

RE: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread Kevin Ragsdale
Michael Babcock wrote: Developers who don't deserve to be called developers wrote shitty code and the stakeholders simply blamed it on the Fox. Lord knows I've written my share of shi**y code. Probably today. ;) Kevin ___ Post Messages to:

RE: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread Fleck, Timothy
: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek) Fleck, Timothy wrote: snipped The only problem is that FoxPro has become a bad word around here. It has been like that for MANY places for some time now! Developers who don't deserve to be called developers wrote shitty code and the stakeholders

Re: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Kevin Ragsdale wrote: Michael Babcock wrote: Developers who don't deserve to be called developers wrote shitty code and the stakeholders simply blamed it on the Fox. Lord knows I've written my share of shi**y code. Probably today. ;) Well, I didn't want to name names, but

Re: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 24, 2007, at 4:31 PM, MB Software Solutions wrote: It has been like that for MANY places for some time now! Developers who don't deserve to be called developers wrote shitty code and the stakeholders simply blamed it on the Fox. I've seen that, too, but most companies I've

Re: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Fleck, Timothy wrote: The funny part is, those developers actually can make money and look like gods compared to the .Net people! Ok, but let's be fair and balanced g: how many .Net people have you seen? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC

RE: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
We all have. Virgil Bierschwale http://www.bierschwalesolutions.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ragsdale Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:39 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Virgil Bierschwale
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 2:36 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] feed your inner geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another thong it excels at is sql server inserts instead of using dts Wonder

RE: Foxpro = bad word (was Re: [NF] feed your inner geek)

2007-01-24 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions wrote: Fleck, Timothy wrote: snipped The only problem is that FoxPro has become a bad word around here. It has been like that for MANY places for some time now! Developers who don't deserve to be called developers wrote shitty code and the stakeholders simply blamed

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions wrote: Fleck, Timothy wrote: I keep trying to get away from FOX, but they keep pulling me back! I was in Toledo for many years working on and creating VFP programs to be prototypes to be upsized to larger systems but the Fox did the trick on the cheap. I am now in

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Stephen the Cook
Virgil Bierschwale wrote: Dang, but my typing is bad on the TREO.. Keyboards way too small grin I got called on my first contract interview in a long time today.. What do they want me to have 25 years experience in but .NET dang the luck What about all the .NET for DOS experience you

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread MB Software Solutions
Stephen the Cook wrote: I see an app created for debug in 3 days time frame at International Paper. It takes the a week to make mock ups that we just mimic in code generation templates. Granted it's all web based, all stored procedure driven for data, as well as the data layout,

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread vbiersch
I know what's worse is the headhunters don't have a clue what they're asking for -Original Message- From: Stephen the Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: RE: [NF] feed your inner geek Date: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:59 pm Size: 1K To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com Virgil Bierschwale

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-24 Thread Stephen the Cook
MB Software Solutions wrote: Stephen the Cook wrote: I see an app created for debug in 3 days time frame at International Paper. It takes the a week to make mock ups that we just mimic in code generation templates. Granted it's all web based, all stored procedure driven for data, as well

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Ray Heilman
set lurk off I really hate how much I want to get one of these! set lurk on RayTheOtherRay On 1/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2zbo4l If you get that warm fuzzy feeling when you see Dot Matrix printer type then our new Tyvek Wallets... --- StripMime

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Dave Crozier
Ray, I like the Money Design wallet best. Must have one even though they are in dollars not pounds! Dave Crozier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Heilman Sent: 23 January 2007 13:48 To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] feed your

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
On 1/23/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2zbo4l If you get that warm fuzzy feeling when you see Dot Matrix printer type then our new Tyvek Wallets... WHAT ABOUT MY _OUTER_ GEEK Whil ___ Post

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Ted Roche
On 1/23/07, Whil Hentzen (Pro*) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHAT ABOUT MY _OUTER_ GEEK Thanks, I think we already know all about that... http://hentzenwerke.com/oldl/f_ind.old?cidj=609cat=fgpa -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Ted Roche wrote: WHAT ABOUT MY _OUTER_ GEEK Thanks, I think we already know all about that... http://hentzenwerke.com/oldl/f_ind.old?cidj=609cat=fgpa Nah, it's really: http://leafe.com/webimages/HentzenWilliam.gif -- Ed Leafe --

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
MB Software Solutions wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Ted Roche wrote: WHAT ABOUT MY _OUTER_ GEEK Thanks, I think we already know all about that... http://hentzenwerke.com/oldl/f_ind.old?cidj=609cat=fgpa Ted/Whil -- what were the matching jackets

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread MB Software Solutions
Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: They were matching? Oh, cripes, that's the last time I walk around in Germany without calling him to find out what he's wearing first! So the FP had nothing to do with Foxpro? Here I thought you guys were from Foxpro Geekdom with your Foxpro jackets. ;-) --

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Rick Schummer
- office 586.254.2539 - fax   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MB Software Solutions Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 01:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [NF] feed your inner geek Whil Hentzen (Pro*) wrote: They were matching? Oh

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread MB Software Solutions
Rick Schummer wrote: They were speaker jackets from one of the FoxTeach conferences years ago. So the only way to get one would be..eBay, right? g They looked like nice leather jackets from the photo!?!?! -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:53 PM Michael wrote: So the only way to get one would be..eBay, right? g They looked like nice leather jackets from the photo!?!?! I had the urge to check eBay after I read about the jackets. They do look pretty nice and I bet someone could make some bucks

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Rick Schummer
David, I recently came across a couple of the plastic cups from a San Diego DevCon with the sand and stuff in bottom. I wonder how much they are worth? The sand cups are cool and were from the year we were at the Swan in DisneyWorld. I think mine are still packed away somewhere. A few years

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:25 PM Rick Schummer wrote: The sand cups are cool and were from the year we were at the Swan in DisneyWorld. I think mine are still packed away somewhere. A few years back someone posted a request on CompuServe IIRC looking for one of the black FoxPro mugs given

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Ray Heilman
My sand cup is long gone. I do have the fanny pack from Orlando and the canvas bag from Miami. I think my daughter has adopted the Miami surf shirt as her own. Beyond that, my trinkets are sparse. RayTheOtherRay --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread David Crooks
On Tuesday, January 23, 2007 2:51 PM Ray Heilman wrote: My sand cup is long gone. I do have the fanny pack from Orlando and the canvas bag from Miami. I think my daughter has adopted the Miami surf shirt as her own. Beyond that, my trinkets are sparse. How much is the 'sand cup' worth to

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread john harvey
I've still got the grey sweatshirt that was given out at a Devcon. I think it may have been San Diego. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Heilman Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:51 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] feed

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Michael Madigan
Was that some gay developers conference? --- Ed Leafe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Ted Roche wrote: WHAT ABOUT MY _OUTER_ GEEK Thanks, I think we already know all about that... http://hentzenwerke.com/oldl/f_ind.old?cidj=609cat=fgpa

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Malcolm Greene
I have a T-Shirt with Ed Leafe and J-Lo from the infamous Sep 2001 devcon. A collector's item! Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list:

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Richard Kaye
Dan Freeman Whil Hentzen - separated at birth? Ed Leafe wrote: Nah, it's really: http://leafe.com/webimages/HentzenWilliam.gif -- Richard Kaye Vice President Artfact/RFC Systems Voice: 617.219.1038 Fax: 617.219.1001 For the fastest response time, please send your support queries

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Lou Syracuse
mug I got in San Diego in 2001.. My last DevCon. Now I write .NET code. I need a life... Ls -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [NF] feed your inner geek I've still got the grey

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Ed Leafe
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Lou Syracuse wrote: I still have that one, too. My first devcon, VFP launch into the extreme' January '95. I picked up a FoxHead coffee cup on ebay a few years back, hearing how rare they are. I think that was from the Orlando conference the year

Re: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Whil Hentzen (Pro*)
Michael Madigan wrote: Was that some gay developers conference? Why, yes it was. But only three people showed up, me, Ted, and the organizer. So they didn't have it again. Thank you for asking! Whil ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com

RE: [NF] feed your inner geek

2007-01-23 Thread Stephen the Cook
Rick Schummer wrote: David, I recently came across a couple of the plastic cups from a San Diego DevCon with the sand and stuff in bottom. I wonder how much they are worth? The sand cups are cool and were from the year we were at the Swan in DisneyWorld. I think mine are still packed