Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
I ran into the same thing yesterday. What I did was Select All then use Deselect Inside Area to deselect your board. This leaves your unwanted text selected. Now place some bogus object (text, line, etc..) in a clear area of the workspace and select it. You can now move this object and the unreachable text will move with it. It can also be Cut together. Greg - Original Message - From: Jackson, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 8:49 AM Subject: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin Is there anyway to display the workspace below the absolute origin. I can't get the display to scroll below this origin yet when I produce the gerber files and load them into CAMtastic, there is some text and copper that shows up 3 inches from the bottom of the board. I can remove this in CAMtastic but I would prefer to have a clean database. Thanks Ken Jackson PCB Designer Kollmorgen -PSD * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
At 02:38 PM 3/23/01 -0500, Andrew J Jenkins wrote: Edit-Select-Outside---then select a window defined by the boundaries of the schematic (the part you WANT to save) Now Edit-deleTe I prefer to see what I am deleting first; it might turn out to be something important (though it usually isn't, and one should always reload the net list before completing a job to make sure that some component did not get accidentally deleted. Deleting a part deletes its net information, so there is no other way to check for accidentally deleted parts. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax P.O. Box 690 El Verano, CA 95433 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
On 09:41 PM 3/23/2001 -0800, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 02:38 PM 3/23/01 -0500, Andrew J Jenkins wrote: Edit-Select-Outside---then select a window defined by the boundaries of the schematic (the part you WANT to save) Now Edit-deleTe I prefer to see what I am deleting first; it might turn out to be something important (though it usually isn't, and one should always reload the net list before completing a job to make sure that some component did not get accidentally deleted. Deleting a part deletes its net information, so there is no other way to check for accidentally deleted parts. Admittedly. I offered that specific solution only because I had before-hand knowledge that the _example_ objects in question were going to be deleted. Upon re-reading, I now realize the question was actually broader in scope. regards, aj * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
Jackson, Ken wrote: Is there anyway to display the workspace below the absolute origin. No. when I produce the gerber files and load them into CAMtastic, there is some text and copper that shows up 3 inches from the bottom of the board. But there is a way to deal with that. Zoom out to the maximum level. Then choose Edit-Select-OutsideArea and draw a rectangle around the whole board. This will select whatever is sitting off the page. Then you can drag the selection onto the active area and deal with it as appropriate. This will not work if the text is part of a string. In that case, you can edit the component and specify the coordinates for the string. Hamid * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
At 02:29 PM 3/23/01 -0800, Bruce Walter wrote: Move Selection (M-S), this allows you to move the selection (what is outside the workspace) relative to your first click, without having to place and selecting an object IN the workspace! For some unknown reason I haven't used Move Selection. Thanks for reminding us! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax P.O. Box 690 El Verano, CA 95433 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
At 09:49 AM 3/23/01 -0500, Jackson, Ken wrote: Is there anyway to display the workspace below the absolute origin. I can't get the display to scroll below this origin yet when I produce the gerber files and load them into CAMtastic, there is some text and copper that shows up 3 inches from the bottom of the board. I can remove this in CAMtastic but I would prefer to have a clean database. (1) No, there is no direct way to display primitives outside the workspace. (2) To work with such primitives, move them into the workspace. The basic idea is to select them together with something you can pick up inside the workspace, and then move the selection. When you are moving a selection, a bounding box may appear that shows you the extent of the selection. That's a clue as to where the offending primitives are located. You also know where they are located from the gerbers (3) Select them by EDA (Edit/Select/All) and then use EEI (Edit/Deselect/Inside) to unselect everything inside the workspace. Place a pad and select it. You can then move all the selections by picking up that pad. (4) And this is a clue to how the primitives got there in the first place. You had something selected and then you moved somewhere else in your design and selected it and moved it. Protel picks up *all* your selections, not just selections on screen! Get in the habit of deselecting everything (EEA or XA) before working with selection, so that you start clean. You might also notice that the bounding box is going off screen, but it is easy to overlook that (and when the number of objects selected is small and the selection is moved slowly, the bounding box may not appear). Protel should warn that primitives are being moved out of the workspace whenever a block move results in such creatures, and there should be three optional answers: [ACCEPT, I know what I am doing even though everyone else cannot fathom why I might want to put primitives outside the workspace] [NO, don't move any objects outside the workspace; instead deselect any objects which would be wholly or partially moved into limbo and leave them where they were, while allowing the rest of the move] [CANCEL and return me to selection floating on cursor]. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax P.O. Box 690 El Verano, CA 95433 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin
Thanks to all. Selecting all and moving did the trick. You would think that the software would know when a primitive moves outside the workspace and not let you do it. -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:39 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Text below absolute origin At 09:49 AM 3/23/01 -0500, Jackson, Ken wrote: Is there anyway to display the workspace below the absolute origin. I can't get the display to scroll below this origin yet when I produce the gerber files and load them into CAMtastic, there is some text and copper that shows up 3 inches from the bottom of the board. I can remove this in CAMtastic but I would prefer to have a clean database. (1) No, there is no direct way to display primitives outside the workspace. (2) To work with such primitives, move them into the workspace. The basic idea is to select them together with something you can pick up inside the workspace, and then move the selection. When you are moving a selection, a bounding box may appear that shows you the extent of the selection. That's a clue as to where the offending primitives are located. You also know where they are located from the gerbers (3) Select them by EDA (Edit/Select/All) and then use EEI (Edit/Deselect/Inside) to unselect everything inside the workspace. Place a pad and select it. You can then move all the selections by picking up that pad. (4) And this is a clue to how the primitives got there in the first place. You had something selected and then you moved somewhere else in your design and selected it and moved it. Protel picks up *all* your selections, not just selections on screen! Get in the habit of deselecting everything (EEA or XA) before working with selection, so that you start clean. You might also notice that the bounding box is going off screen, but it is easy to overlook that (and when the number of objects selected is small and the selection is moved slowly, the bounding box may not appear). Protel should warn that primitives are being moved out of the workspace whenever a block move results in such creatures, and there should be three optional answers: [ACCEPT, I know what I am doing even though everyone else cannot fathom why I might want to put primitives outside the workspace] [NO, don't move any objects outside the workspace; instead deselect any objects which would be wholly or partially moved into limbo and leave them where they were, while allowing the rest of the move] [CANCEL and return me to selection floating on cursor]. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax P.O. Box 690 El Verano, CA 95433 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To join or leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
