Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-07 Thread Mira
Ian, All I can say is that if you haven't seen how some people use the underscoring, it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. It's just a matter of time. FYI designers here use very often undescore to make a difference between two signals, not to make one of them negative. RESET and RESET_ are just

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-07 Thread Mira
Richard, That is a good idea but unfortunately the printouts are blackwhite. Mira - Richard Sumner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mira, I changed the default wire color so there is a good contrast between the wire and the net labels. The underscore no longer disappears into the wire! For

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-07 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 06:05 AM 6/6/2002 -0700, Mira wrote: I just tried to debugg a board, which schematic was in Protel and the net names were RESET and RESET_. [...] Due to the way the net labels are attached to the wire in Protel, the underscore overlaps the wire and hardly could be seen. That was what I meant.

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-06 Thread Mira
Abd, I found out that there are as many opinions about negation as the people are. I just tried to debugg a board, which schematic was in Protel and the net names were RESET and RESET_. Do figure which one where is connected if you have it only on paper. Due to the way the net labels are

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-06 Thread Ian Wilson
On 06:05 AM 6/06/2002 -0700, Mira said: Abd, I found out that there are as many opinions about negation as the people are. I just tried to debugg a board, which schematic was in Protel and the net names were RESET and RESET_. Do figure which one where is connected if you have it only on paper.

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-05 Thread ga
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Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-05 Thread Mira
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re: pin naming on schematic symbols and the negation character

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-05 Thread Mira
Abd, Net_names like this look awful on the schematic and the printouts. Not recognizable at all. Mira --- Abd ulRahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:02 AM 6/4/2002 -0700, Bruce Walter wrote: Anybody know if there would be a problem using a dash (minus sign) as a prefix? I think it

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-05 Thread lloyd . good
Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux Abd, Net_names like this look awful on the schematic and the printouts. Not recognizable at all. Mira --- Abd ulRahman Lomax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:02 AM 6/4/2002 -0700, Bruce Walter wrote: Anybody know if there would be a problem using a dash

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Mira
10:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re: pin naming on schematic symbols and the negation character thereof what was the consensus, or was there? i know the bar symbol is problematic and i have

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Graham
www.emdesigns.com www.emmanufacturing.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Mira
501 www.gerhardeng.com www.emdesigns.com www.emmanufacturing.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Dennis Saputelli
-Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re: pin naming on schematic symbols

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Dennis Saputelli
www.emmanufacturing.com -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Graham
-Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 10:58 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re: pin naming

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Bruce Walter
Anybody know if there would be a problem using a dash (minus sign) as a prefix? -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:28 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux We use \. In PCAD you can type

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-04 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 11:02 AM 6/4/2002 -0700, Bruce Walter wrote: Anybody know if there would be a problem using a dash (minus sign) as a prefix? I think it works, but as another mentioned, WR will be sorted in a different place than -WR. Personally, I use an asterisk at the end, not because it is necessarily

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-03 Thread Ian Wilson
On 06:09 PM 3/06/2002 -0700, Cliff Gerhard said: We use a # after the signal name ala the PCI specification (GNT#, REQ#, etc.) We use n_ as a prefix (for the reasons Joey gave - portability between tools). I suspect there are at least as many opinions as designers on this one. Ian Wilson * *

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-01 Thread Dennis Saputelli
I know this has been widely discussed but ... re: pin naming on schematic symbols and the negation character thereof what was the consensus, or was there? i know the bar symbol is problematic and i have decided to never use it again i recall someone advocating the use of n as in nRW that

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-01 Thread Brian Sherer
Hi, Dennis; I use, and have often seen used, the slash (/) for negation on pin signal names as well as Net names. Seems to work OK. eg: /OUTPUT for negative output. Brian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-01 Thread Joey Nelson
: Re: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re: pin naming on schematic symbols and the negation character thereof what was the consensus, or was there? i know the bar symbol is problematic and i have decided to never use it again i recall someone

Re: [PEDA] negation character redux

2002-06-01 Thread Dennis Saputelli
: [PEDA] negation character redux I know this has been widely discussed but ... re: pin naming on schematic symbols and the negation character thereof what was the consensus, or was there? i know the bar symbol is problematic and i have decided to never use it again i recall