Re: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol?
Natalie, While some prefer to do something like that in another package, such as AutoCad, there are those that like to do it here in Protel 99 SE I know a number of people wo use one of the mechanical Layers as a PWB Detail (Fab Dwg), by putting on a Border and Title Block and Standard Notes, and just using that as the startup template for any new board. When you use the PCB Wizard in Protel 99 SE to create a new job (after creating a new file, rightclick on the background in your main window of your new .ddb and select New . . . and then select the Wizards Tab and then doubleclick on Printed Circuit Board Wizard), the Wizard itself uses templates to generate a new PCB document for you. These templates are stored in a database called templates.ddb located in your Program Files\Design Explorer 99 SE\System directory. You can modify an existing template to suit your needs, or make a new one of your own. I can't remember all of the details involved in setting up your own template, but possibly others in the forum can help you there. The only thing you I would say that you have to watch out for here is the size of the negatives since your board shop might generate film the size of your complete drawing and charge you for it if you have that layer turned on when you generate your Gerbers. Hope that this is of some help. JaMi * * * * * * * * * - Original Message - From: Natalie DeGennaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol? Hi, I am a newbie to this group, having just started learning Protel DXP. But I am a senior designer having used other software. I would like to make my fabrication notes (and possibly my fab drawing title block) into a symbol I can call in on every board. Is this possible on this software? From what I read in the Help section, all components have to have a pin definition in them. I don't want pins, I just want dummy text and lines in the shape of a Titleblock and notes. Is this possible? I can make a DXF file to do this but I would rather have a symbol to call in. Thanks for all help, Natalie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/22/03 06:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Internet cc: (bcc: Natalie DeGennaro/Americas/NSC) Subject:Re: [PEDA] Import PCB Leo- May be that the Gerbers are RS274 rather than RS274X. For RS274, Protel needs to have the Aperture file loaded before importing the Gerbers themselvesotherwise, you get a black screen after the Gerber load. Aperture list must be in the bundle if Camtastic is finding it, tho the file extension may not be .apt. Brian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol?
Natalie, Wasn't till I got a copy of my own post back that I realized you were talking about Protel DXP as opposed to Protel 99 SE. I am asleep at the switch today, and assumed that because you posted to the Protel List instead of the DXP List that you were talking about Protel 99 SE, and read the DXP in your post as DXF. Sorry about that. Notwithstanding my blunder, I believe that everything I said below is also applicable to Protel DXP, with the exception that the templates.ddb file will now be located in the \Program Files\Altium\System directory. If you are not aware of the DXP Technical Forum, you can find it at: == http://forums.altium.com . JaMi - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol? Natalie, While some prefer to do something like that in another package, such as AutoCad, there are those that like to do it here in Protel 99 SE I know a number of people wo use one of the mechanical Layers as a PWB Detail (Fab Dwg), by putting on a Border and Title Block and Standard Notes, and just using that as the startup template for any new board. When you use the PCB Wizard in Protel 99 SE to create a new job (after creating a new file, rightclick on the background in your main window of your new .ddb and select New . . . and then select the Wizards Tab and then doubleclick on Printed Circuit Board Wizard), the Wizard itself uses templates to generate a new PCB document for you. These templates are stored in a database called templates.ddb located in your Program Files\Design Explorer 99 SE\System directory. You can modify an existing template to suit your needs, or make a new one of your own. I can't remember all of the details involved in setting up your own template, but possibly others in the forum can help you there. The only thing you I would say that you have to watch out for here is the size of the negatives since your board shop might generate film the size of your complete drawing and charge you for it if you have that layer turned on when you generate your Gerbers. Hope that this is of some help. JaMi * * * * * * * * * - Original Message - From: Natalie DeGennaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol? Hi, I am a newbie to this group, having just started learning Protel DXP. But I am a senior designer having used other software. I would like to make my fabrication notes (and possibly my fab drawing title block) into a symbol I can call in on every board. Is this possible on this software? From what I read in the Help section, all components have to have a pin definition in them. I don't want pins, I just want dummy text and lines in the shape of a Titleblock and notes. Is this possible? I can make a DXF file to do this but I would rather have a symbol to call in. Thanks for all help, Natalie * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol?
Natalie, DXP introduces (to Protel) the concept of component types. Graphical types are not synched with the PCB and not put on the BOM - so I would think this would do the job. The only downside would be that you have a large component across the whole board. This may make selecting components a pain, and also have some other side effects. I should have mentioned that the type is an attribute of a component. Edit the component properties (either in the lib or once placed on the PCB) and change the type field. Click on the What's this? help button on the component properties dialog box ( the ? top right) and then click on the type drop box for some details on component type. Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol?
On 06:51 PM 31/05/2003, Ian Wilson said: it is Sunday night here ... it was Saturday actually... I * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Mechanical symbol?
On 03:16 AM 30/05/2003, Natalie DeGennaro said: Hi, I am a newbie to this group, having just started learning Protel DXP. But I am a senior designer having used other software. I would like to make my fabrication notes (and possibly my fab drawing title block) into a symbol I can call in on every board. Is this possible on this software? From what I read in the Help section, all components have to have a pin definition in them. I don't want pins, I just want dummy text and lines in the shape of a Titleblock and notes. Is this possible? I can make a DXF file to do this but I would rather have a symbol to call in. Thanks for all help, Natalie Natalie, DXP introduces (to Protel) the concept of component types. Graphical types are not synched with the PCB and not put on the BOM - so I would think this would do the job. The only downside would be that you have a large component across the whole board. This may make selecting components a pain, and also have some other side effects. You could explode the component once placed - this would work OK. Or you could simply design a PCB template. I have not looked into the details of PCB templates. There has been some discussion on this on the Altium DXP forum but I can't recall the details and am too lazy to look them up just now, actually it is Sunday night here and I am wondering why I am answering the question at all...:-). You could search the archives of that forum for details (http://forums.altium.com). Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
