Re: [PEDA] TO3 footprint

2002-05-23 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax

At 04:29 PM 5/23/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I fixed the TO3 by assigning only one pad as pin 3. Will multiple pins 
>with one pin number work?

Yes. Fully with Schematic/Update PCB, and with a known bug which is 
harmless once you know what it is with Netlist Load.

>I have not had a problem with Netlist Load as I force it to browse for the 
>Netlist File not using the
>netlist it shows. The same bug is in AutoCAD 2000 for inserting a block 
>...the block does not get updated
>unless you force it to browse for the file. I think its a Windows type of 
>bug. Am I wrong about this?

This is not related.

>I will try to remember to use the Update PCB. Must I make sure the Rooms 
>crap is turned off??

Yes. And if it loads rooms because you forget, it is fast to delete them.

Get used to the synchronizer, it is the way of the future. Netlist load is 
a remnant of the old batch processing days. But we still need it for 
foreign netlists.



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



Re: [PEDA] TO3 footprint

2002-05-23 Thread Jeff Adolphs

I fixed the TO3 by assigning only one pad as pin 3. Will multiple pins with one pin 
number work?

I have not had a problem with Netlist Load as I force it to browse for the Netlist 
File not using the
netlist it shows. The same bug is in AutoCAD 2000 for inserting a block ...the block 
does not get updated
unless you force it to browse for the file. I think its a Windows type of bug. Am I 
wrong about this?

I will try to remember to use the Update PCB. Must I make sure the Rooms crap is 
turned off??

Jeff Adolphs
www.lakeshore.com





-Original Message-
From: Abd ulRahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 2:51 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] TO3 footprint


At 09:26 AM 5/23/2002 -0400, Jeff Adolphs wrote:
>Good Morning! I have a TO3 schematic part with pins 1, 2, 3. The TO3 
>footprint has pins 1, 2, and two pin 3's. I thought this would work but 
>the pin 3's do not have netnames in the layout. Do I have to use a 
>schematic and footprint pin 3A and pin 3B?

Let me guess. Mr Adolphs used Netlist Load instead of the synchronizer 
(Schematic/Design/Update PCB). There is a known bug in the Netlist Load 
routines which causes assignment oscillation: the existing assigment will 
change state between the correct net name and no-net with each successive 
load. The easiest fix is to use Update PCB, but if that is not available, 
as with a net list from another CAD Schematic program, making a fresh load 
after having cleared out nets will produce correct assignments. The command 
Design/Netlist Manager/Menu/Update Free primitives... will restore the free 
primitive assignments (i.e., track and via). Note that non-pad primitives 
that are part of footprints are also updated in addition to free primitives.

A symptom of the problem is that each netlist load produces new macros, 
even though the same netlist was just loaded already. The macros oscillate 
the assignments.

It is a good practice to reload the net list or resynchronize before 
beginning routing and after completing a design; if the only macros that 
are created are the oscillating kind, or no macros are created, the load 
can be cancelled. It would still be prudent to manually verify those pads.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *



Re: [PEDA] TO3 footprint

2002-05-23 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax

At 09:26 AM 5/23/2002 -0400, Jeff Adolphs wrote:
>Good Morning! I have a TO3 schematic part with pins 1, 2, 3. The TO3 
>footprint has pins 1, 2, and two pin 3's. I thought this would work but 
>the pin 3's do not have netnames in the layout. Do I have to use a 
>schematic and footprint pin 3A and pin 3B?

Let me guess. Mr Adolphs used Netlist Load instead of the synchronizer 
(Schematic/Design/Update PCB). There is a known bug in the Netlist Load 
routines which causes assignment oscillation: the existing assigment will 
change state between the correct net name and no-net with each successive 
load. The easiest fix is to use Update PCB, but if that is not available, 
as with a net list from another CAD Schematic program, making a fresh load 
after having cleared out nets will produce correct assignments. The command 
Design/Netlist Manager/Menu/Update Free primitives... will restore the free 
primitive assignments (i.e., track and via). Note that non-pad primitives 
that are part of footprints are also updated in addition to free primitives.

A symptom of the problem is that each netlist load produces new macros, 
even though the same netlist was just loaded already. The macros oscillate 
the assignments.

It is a good practice to reload the net list or resynchronize before 
beginning routing and after completing a design; if the only macros that 
are created are the oscillating kind, or no macros are created, the load 
can be cancelled. It would still be prudent to manually verify those pads.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* To leave this list visit:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html
*
* Contact the list manager:
* mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*
* Forum Guidelines Rules:
* http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html
*
* Browse or Search previous postings:
* http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *