Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype Vs. JQuery
jQuery is DOM-only, and Prototype is general Javascript with classes etc. If you program in Javascript (versus just setting colors positions css etc.), then Prototype is much better choice. For DOM-oriented tasks, both are good. For me as a programmer, Prototype is better, since I can express my intentions more clearly with Object-Oriented approach. For a non-programmer and/or beginner (e.g. web designer) jQuery is easier to use and learn because it is simpler (procedural) and limited to DOM-oriented tasks. izidor On 2.5.2011, at 9:04, kstubs wrote: > Well, great feedback so far. > As stated, I'm a fan of Proto, and will stay committed. I think mostly > because I am just now getting to a level of proficiency that allows me to > actually "develop", rather than struggle with concepts, how-to's, and basic > syntax. > I'm not a huge plugin fan, so have been pleased with core Proto library + > Scripty and writing my own, but perhaps an argument for JQuery is their > wealth of plugins. I state that more as a question since I really do not > know how the libraries/plugins/extensions compare in size and usefulness. > > Anyhow, keep up the great work Proto, and I should also mention that the > support that T.J. offers on this group is amazing and well beyond expected. > > Karl.. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. > To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype Vs. JQuery
Well, great feedback so far. As stated, I'm a fan of Proto, and will stay committed. I think mostly because I am just now getting to a level of proficiency that allows me to actually "develop", rather than struggle with concepts, how-to's, and basic syntax. I'm not a huge plugin fan, so have been pleased with core Proto library + Scripty and writing my own, but perhaps an argument for JQuery is their wealth of plugins. I state that more as a question since I really do not know how the libraries/plugins/extensions compare in size and usefulness. Anyhow, keep up the great work Proto, and I should also mention that the support that T.J. offers on this group is amazing and well beyond expected. Karl.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype Vs. JQuery
@lvdesign you comment sound more that an advertising than an real prove for why to move to jquery, I mean seriously I don't know anything that you CAN'T do with prototype and do with jquery cause at finally both are javascript, so the question is more about what is the real future of prototype, why stay keep in touch with this library or try to move in a new one. I mean if you have to talk about libraries you have to realize that YUI is really better option than jquery in several terms and is running in an architectural made by the famous Douglas Crockford father of JSON. But here the question is what's happend with prototype??? does anyone can help us??? On May 1, 4:33 am, lvdesign wrote: > Hello, > For me the problem is actualy > Why are you using Prototype when jQuery is more efficient, intuitive > et en plus more developed? > And remember you, jQuery accept other library with .noConflict() > And you can manage RoR with > jQueryhttp://jimneath.org/2008/06/18/using-jquery-with-ruby-on-rails.html > > So for me try to do something with Proto is a challenge because jQuery > is so smart. > > cordialy > LV > > On 1 mai, 02:45, "joe t." wrote: > > > > > > > > > The short answer is that there's no short answer. There's not really > > anything that either library can do that the other can't. It's mostly > > a question of the requirements of the project, or familiarity with > > either library's approach, etc. > > > There's no conclusive answer & any answer you do get will be loaded > > with facts about each, but no single knockout argument to use one or > > the other. > > > -joe t. > > > On Apr 29, 2:22 pm, kstubs wrote: > > > > Why Prototype over JQuery? I am an avid fan of Prototype and have never > > > used JQuery, but JQuery seems to be so popular. Is it just that, popular? > > > I love prototype, and learning something new and magical every day it > > > seems, but is there something *better* that Prototype does that JQuery > > > doesn't, or vice-a-versa? > > > > Karl.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype Vs. JQuery
This has been a troubling question ever since I started working with PrototypeJS (2006) and then discovered JQuery, etc. Somehow, for reasons of my own, I like PrototypeJS far better. I think the appeal of JQuery is in it's documentation. I think they make it somewhat idiotproof, and their site looks pretty cool for web- designers who are more sold on looks rather than semantics, or other programming benefits. I have tried using no conflict version of JQuery and it works fine unless you try their "plugins" which are often developed without the no conflict version in mind, or so I thought. I think PrototypeJS suffices for everything that can be achieved but sometimes, if you are not a purist, you might want to use other APIs in the same project. An example is EXTJS. I have also read somewhere PrototypeJS is better in terms of size and speed. I recently came across yet another library by a Russian guy which claims to beat all existing libraries hands down (just can't remember the URL, forgot to bookmark that one)... and then there's UIZE... the question really ought to be, what's the best JS API out there... and why? In my opinion, PrototypeJS is in the top 3 or 5 and no matter how fast JQuery is updated, or it's usage is more popular among webmasters, PrototypeJS is much better in fundamentals and approach. On May 1, 2:33 pm, lvdesign wrote: > Hello, > For me the problem is actualy > Why are you using Prototype when jQuery is more efficient, intuitive > et en plus more developed? > And remember you, jQuery accept other library with .noConflict() > And you can manage RoR with > jQueryhttp://jimneath.org/2008/06/18/using-jquery-with-ruby-on-rails.html > > So for me try to do something with Proto is a challenge because jQuery > is so smart. > > cordialy > LV > > On 1 mai, 02:45, "joe t." wrote: > > > The short answer is that there's no short answer. There's not really > > anything that either library can do that the other can't. It's mostly > > a question of the requirements of the project, or familiarity with > > either library's approach, etc. > > > There's no conclusive answer & any answer you do get will be loaded > > with facts about each, but no single knockout argument to use one or > > the other. > > > -joe t. > > > On Apr 29, 2:22 pm, kstubs wrote: > > > > Why Prototype over JQuery? I am an avid fan of Prototype and have never > > > used JQuery, but JQuery seems to be so popular. Is it just that, popular? > > > I love prototype, and learning something new and magical every day it > > > seems, but is there something *better* that Prototype does that JQuery > > > doesn't, or vice-a-versa? > > > > Karl.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype Vs. JQuery
Hello, For me the problem is actualy Why are you using Prototype when jQuery is more efficient, intuitive et en plus more developed? And remember you, jQuery accept other library with .noConflict() And you can manage RoR with jQuery http://jimneath.org/2008/06/18/using-jquery-with-ruby-on-rails.html So for me try to do something with Proto is a challenge because jQuery is so smart. cordialy LV On 1 mai, 02:45, "joe t." wrote: > The short answer is that there's no short answer. There's not really > anything that either library can do that the other can't. It's mostly > a question of the requirements of the project, or familiarity with > either library's approach, etc. > > There's no conclusive answer & any answer you do get will be loaded > with facts about each, but no single knockout argument to use one or > the other. > > -joe t. > > On Apr 29, 2:22 pm, kstubs wrote: > > > > > Why Prototype over JQuery? I am an avid fan of Prototype and have never > > used JQuery, but JQuery seems to be so popular. Is it just that, popular? > > I love prototype, and learning something new and magical every day it > > seems, but is there something *better* that Prototype does that JQuery > > doesn't, or vice-a-versa? > > > Karl.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype Vs. JQuery
The short answer is that there's no short answer. There's not really anything that either library can do that the other can't. It's mostly a question of the requirements of the project, or familiarity with either library's approach, etc. There's no conclusive answer & any answer you do get will be loaded with facts about each, but no single knockout argument to use one or the other. -joe t. On Apr 29, 2:22 pm, kstubs wrote: > Why Prototype over JQuery? I am an avid fan of Prototype and have never > used JQuery, but JQuery seems to be so popular. Is it just that, popular? > I love prototype, and learning something new and magical every day it > seems, but is there something *better* that Prototype does that JQuery > doesn't, or vice-a-versa? > > Karl.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype Vs. JQuery
I have the same question man... I'm been a really huge fan of prototype since the begging but couple year ago I'm feeling that's jquery is getting a better place in this javascript framework race... jquery is fixing an improving their framework in a fastest way than prototype is doing... I'm really appreciate all the work in prototype but now I don't know if in my next projects will decide for using prototype instead jquery because in the future I don´t know who is gonna have better community support... any expert or close relate can answer our questions??? best ncubica On Apr 29, 1:22 pm, kstubs wrote: > Why Prototype over JQuery? I am an avid fan of Prototype and have never > used JQuery, but JQuery seems to be so popular. Is it just that, popular? > I love prototype, and learning something new and magical every day it > seems, but is there something *better* that Prototype does that JQuery > doesn't, or vice-a-versa? > > Karl.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Prototype & script.aculo.us" group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en.
