[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki - and Beyond...
Hi, Hmmm, I've already created a wiki -- just came to the forum to post an announcement. Look for that in a moment. -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 7, 2:33 pm, White Shadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Prototypers, I've posted a few days ago a reply in the Prototype blog about reviving the Prototype Community, and I stand by my words. I've started to code a new community platform for us all, as a one stop shop for everything Prototype related, from Wiki, to links, plug-ins, code, extensions... etc. and I would love to start a section called the Prototype Challenge, which will have user requests for plug-in recodes or ported from other libraries. Prototype rocks, and we need to help the core team in expanding the image of Prototype in the javascript world out there. I've spoken to Christophe and Andew a little in the Ajax Experience, and I felt that what the core teams needs to see if action and not just vague promises, as so many attempts were made and slowly disappeared. More on this soon... whiteShadow --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
Awe, come on TJ :) While I can see how his post is somewhat of a self promotion, I think he means well. And, I think this sort of rallying is relevant to the OP's topic (i.e. where might a prototype wiki live?). Not meaning to propagate an argument around that question... just trying to diffuse what I think could otherwise be construed as unjust harshness from you TJ (I apologize profusely to you sir, for I know that's not how you meant it to come off). Shadow means well, and Shadow, TJ also means well -- the important thing here is the community rallying and action being taken. Shadow, your project sounds interesting, and you'd be served well I think to get in touch with kangax and his guys at scripteka for a possible collaboration. Yay community! On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:06 AM, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, please don't change the subjects of other peoples' threads. You're free to start your own thread... -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 7, 2:33 pm, White Shadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Prototypers, I've posted a few days ago a reply in the Prototype blog about reviving the Prototype Community, and I stand by my words. I've started to code a new community platform for us all, as a one stop shop for everything Prototype related, from Wiki, to links, plug-ins, code, extensions... etc. and I would love to start a section called the Prototype Challenge, which will have user requests for plug-in recodes or ported from other libraries. Prototype rocks, and we need to help the core team in expanding the image of Prototype in the javascript world out there. I've spoken to Christophe and Andew a little in the Ajax Experience, and I felt that what the core teams needs to see if action and not just vague promises, as so many attempts were made and slowly disappeared. More on this soon... whiteShadow -- Ryan Gahl Manager, Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLC http://www.nthpenguin.com -- WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform -- Inquire: 1-920-574-2218 Blog: http://www.someElement.com LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryangahl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
Hey Ryan, Thanks, your post makes it clear that *my* post was completely unclear (to anyone but White Shadow and myself!): I wasn't complaining about his *posting* to the thread. That's totally cool. I was complaining about his changing the **subject line** of the thread. I was totally unclear about that, and I apologize! The word subject is, er, subject to interpretation... ;-) -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 7, 3:18 pm, Ryan Gahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awe, come on TJ :) While I can see how his post is somewhat of a self promotion, I think he means well. And, I think this sort of rallying is relevant to the OP's topic (i.e. where might a prototype wiki live?). Not meaning to propagate an argument around that question... just trying to diffuse what I think could otherwise be construed as unjust harshness from you TJ (I apologize profusely to you sir, for I know that's not how you meant it to come off). Shadow means well, and Shadow, TJ also means well -- the important thing here is the community rallying and action being taken. Shadow, your project sounds interesting, and you'd be served well I think to get in touch with kangax and his guys at scripteka for a possible collaboration. Yay community! On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:06 AM, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, please don't change the subjects of other peoples' threads. You're free to start your own thread... -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 7, 2:33 pm, White Shadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Prototypers, I've posted a few days ago a reply in the Prototype blog about reviving the Prototype Community, and I stand by my words. I've started to code a new community platform for us all, as a one stop shop for everything Prototype related, from Wiki, to links, plug-ins, code, extensions... etc. and I would love to start a section called the Prototype Challenge, which will have user requests for plug-in recodes or ported from other libraries. Prototype rocks, and we need to help the core team in expanding the image of Prototype in the javascript world out there. I've spoken to Christophe and Andew a little in the Ajax Experience, and I felt that what the core teams needs to see if action and not just vague promises, as so many attempts were made and slowly disappeared. More on this soon... whiteShadow -- Ryan Gahl Manager, Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLChttp://www.nthpenguin.com -- WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform -- Inquire: 1-920-574-2218 Blog:http://www.someElement.com LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/ryangahl --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
No offense taken, (Thank Ryan) and thanks Tj, and yes Kanjax, I am the same person ;) Anyways, I'm getting a server for the new prototype site shortly, and would email and post further info on the projects' development. I'm getting some sponsorship for this from the company I work for (Edulence) and I have a very very positive feeling we all here have enough spirit together to bring Prototype to its right place among the stars ;) And yes Kanjax, maybe we can setup a work meeting to discuss how we start this project, I can setup a quick meet at our place on 38th street in the near future. (Beer on the house ;)) any new-yorkers out there interested?? whiteShadow On Oct 7, 11:39 am, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a community spirit, Ryan! Amen -- and thanks again, Ryan. -- T.J. :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
I'm in Englewood Cliffs right by the GWB in NJ, but i doubt my company would allow me such a work meeting... On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 1:07 PM, White Shadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense taken, (Thank Ryan) and thanks Tj, and yes Kanjax, I am the same person ;) Anyways, I'm getting a server for the new prototype site shortly, and would email and post further info on the projects' development. I'm getting some sponsorship for this from the company I work for (Edulence) and I have a very very positive feeling we all here have enough spirit together to bring Prototype to its right place among the stars ;) And yes Kanjax, maybe we can setup a work meeting to discuss how we start this project, I can setup a quick meet at our place on 38th street in the near future. (Beer on the house ;)) any new-yorkers out there interested?? whiteShadow On Oct 7, 11:39 am, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a community spirit, Ryan! Amen -- and thanks again, Ryan. -- T.J. :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
I'm getting some sponsorship for this from the company I work for... *green with jeolousy* I would say be sure to let us know when the site is live so we can link to it from the unofficial wiki...but you're already a member and can add the link yourself! ;-) -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 7, 6:07 pm, White Shadow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offense taken, (Thank Ryan) and thanks Tj, and yes Kanjax, I am the same person ;) Anyways, I'm getting a server for the new prototype site shortly, and would email and post further info on the projects' development. I'm getting some sponsorship for this from the company I work for (Edulence) and I have a very very positive feeling we all here have enough spirit together to bring Prototype to its right place among the stars ;) And yes Kanjax, maybe we can setup a work meeting to discuss how we start this project, I can setup a quick meet at our place on 38th street in the near future. (Beer on the house ;)) any new-yorkers out there interested?? whiteShadow On Oct 7, 11:39 am, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a community spirit, Ryan! Amen -- and thanks again, Ryan. -- T.J. :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
Hey Tobie, There are some security issues with the github wiki which currently makes it improper to be used as a community wiki. Okay. Regarding the FAQ, I remember clearly requesting a number of changes to it before publishing it and haven't heard about it since then. As of our email exchange on July 1st, you said Andrew was editing it. I'd already done two revisions at that point and since your issues were issues of style rather than content and you weren't happy with the edits I'd done to try to accomodate your style, I'd suggested that rather than me trying yet again, you or someone else on the Core team take the 15 minutes necessary to modify the links to be the way you like them. -- T.J. :-) On Oct 5, 10:30 pm, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some security issues with the github wiki which currently makes it improper to be used as a community wiki. Regarding the FAQ, I remember clearly requesting a number of changes to it before publishing it and haven't heard about it since then. I'd love to have it online asap. Best, Tobie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some security issues with the github wiki which currently makes it improper to be used as a community wiki. Is there are reason we're stuck with github? We could go with mediawiki or any other of the gazillion free wikis out there... Regarding the FAQ, I remember clearly requesting a number of changes to it before publishing it and haven't heard about it since then. I'd love to have it online asap. Best, Tobie -- Jerod Venema Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLC http://www.nthpenguin.com (919) 368-5105 --- WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
Hey Jerod, Yeah, I was asking about github because Prototype is already hosted there, and the official script.aculo.us wiki is hosted there, so it seemed logical to at least ask what the plan was. Anyone who reads this group regularly will know that I'm a big believer in we, the community, doing things for ourselves (such as this group), rather than expecting the core group to do everything. Over in the Does Prototype have a future? thread[1] (answer, btw: YES), I raised the question of whether we should have a community site just as we have this community group. I got a couple of positive responses there (and by private email), and so I've been looking at putting something together. It's just that I would tend to think there wasn't any need if we had a wiki for Prototype like we do for script.aculo.us. But I'm putting something _very_ basic together now, using wikidot; look for a thread on it in the next week or so. -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com [1] http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous/browse_thread/thread/08b3bbc96fbd5ad7 On Oct 6, 5:23 pm, Jerod Venema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some security issues with the github wiki which currently makes it improper to be used as a community wiki. Is there are reason we're stuck with github? We could go with mediawiki or any other of the gazillion free wikis out there... Regarding the FAQ, I remember clearly requesting a number of changes to it before publishing it and haven't heard about it since then. I'd love to have it online asap. Best, Tobie -- Jerod Venema Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLChttp://www.nthpenguin.com (919) 368-5105 --- WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
OK, that makes good sense. Glad you're moving on with something else if we can't use github for security reasons. Let me know if I can help. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:48 PM, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey Jerod, Yeah, I was asking about github because Prototype is already hosted there, and the official script.aculo.us wiki is hosted there, so it seemed logical to at least ask what the plan was. Anyone who reads this group regularly will know that I'm a big believer in we, the community, doing things for ourselves (such as this group), rather than expecting the core group to do everything. Over in the Does Prototype have a future? thread[1] (answer, btw: YES), I raised the question of whether we should have a community site just as we have this community group. I got a couple of positive responses there (and by private email), and so I've been looking at putting something together. It's just that I would tend to think there wasn't any need if we had a wiki for Prototype like we do for script.aculo.us. But I'm putting something _very_ basic together now, using wikidot; look for a thread on it in the next week or so. -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com [1] http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous/browse_thread/thread/08b3bbc96fbd5ad7 On Oct 6, 5:23 pm, Jerod Venema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are some security issues with the github wiki which currently makes it improper to be used as a community wiki. Is there are reason we're stuck with github? We could go with mediawiki or any other of the gazillion free wikis out there... Regarding the FAQ, I remember clearly requesting a number of changes to it before publishing it and haven't heard about it since then. I'd love to have it online asap. Best, Tobie -- Jerod Venema Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLChttp://www.nthpenguin.com (919) 368-5105 --- WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform -- Jerod Venema Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLC http://www.nthpenguin.com (919) 368-5105 --- WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
What would go in this wiki ? Whatever the community comes up with -- that's the joy of community content! ;-) The FAQ that kangax and I wrote, for a start; it's been more than three months since we turned it over in markdown format and it still hasn't appeared on prototypejs.org as discussed because people are too busy -- and even if it did, there are probably 18 edits that really need to get made that people would make if it were open and editable by the community (like, for instance, adding Andrew's book that's come out in the meantime to the where can I read more section). That's the issue with gatekeepig; gatekeepers tend to get too busy... -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 5, 9:39 pm, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would go in this wiki ? On Oct 5, 10:34 pm, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Tobie, So there's no plan to host a Prototype wiki there? -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 5, 6:46 pm, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the github default. Best, Tobie On Oct 5, 3:53 pm, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, script.aculo.us is using github's wiki stuff these days:http://github.com/madrobby/scriptaculous/wikis I can't help but notice this:http://github.com/sstephenson/prototype/wikis It currently just says Welcome to the Prototype wiki! Is it meant to be / become an official wiki for Prototype? -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
What would go in this wiki ? On Oct 5, 10:34 pm, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Tobie, So there's no plan to host a Prototype wiki there? -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 5, 6:46 pm, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the github default. Best, Tobie On Oct 5, 3:53 pm, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, script.aculo.us is using github's wiki stuff these days:http://github.com/madrobby/scriptaculous/wikis I can't help but notice this:http://github.com/sstephenson/prototype/wikis It currently just says Welcome to the Prototype wiki! Is it meant to be / become an official wiki for Prototype? -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
Here's another vote for a prototype.js wiki... It'd be great to have a central place where we could put all the extra bits of code people have written in their libraries rather than having to search through the google archives. Also, there have been a couple times that I've wanted to update the docs with a bit more info. Explain an example a bit more, show perhaps a this is a good pattern to use for situation XYZ, etc. I've replied back to the appropriate lists with suggestions once or twice, but as TJ mentioned, I think the gatekeepers might have just had a bit too much going on, so the suggestions fell to the wayside. -Jerod On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would go in this wiki ? Whatever the community comes up with -- that's the joy of community content! ;-) The FAQ that kangax and I wrote, for a start; it's been more than three months since we turned it over in markdown format and it still hasn't appeared on prototypejs.org as discussed because people are too busy -- and even if it did, there are probably 18 edits that really need to get made that people would make if it were open and editable by the community (like, for instance, adding Andrew's book that's come out in the meantime to the where can I read more section). That's the issue with gatekeepig; gatekeepers tend to get too busy... -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 5, 9:39 pm, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would go in this wiki ? On Oct 5, 10:34 pm, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Tobie, So there's no plan to host a Prototype wiki there? -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com On Oct 5, 6:46 pm, Tobie Langel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the github default. Best, Tobie On Oct 5, 3:53 pm, T.J. Crowder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, script.aculo.us is using github's wiki stuff these days: http://github.com/madrobby/scriptaculous/wikis I can't help but notice this: http://github.com/sstephenson/prototype/wikis It currently just says Welcome to the Prototype wiki! Is it meant to be / become an official wiki for Prototype? -- T.J. Crowder tj / crowder software / com -- Jerod Venema Senior Software Engineer Nth Penguin, LLC http://www.nthpenguin.com (919) 368-5105 --- WebWidgetry.com / MashupStudio.com Future Home of the World's First Complete Web Platform --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Proto-Scripty] Re: Prototype wiki?
There are some security issues with the github wiki which currently makes it improper to be used as a community wiki. Regarding the FAQ, I remember clearly requesting a number of changes to it before publishing it and haven't heard about it since then. I'd love to have it online asap. Best, Tobie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Prototype script.aculo.us group. To post to this group, send email to prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
