Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Glenn LeBrasseur wrote: > Hey what's with all of the cute catchy names? Shouldent we be developing > proposals for standards, and end up calling it something like PSAS_201.2 > bus? Oh good Gerty! I've had enough of standards bodies for a lifetime! (USB 3.0 work.) Sarah > Quoting rq1...@q7.com: > >> Hmm, >> >> CandU (CAN and USB)? >>> >>> AWWWIOR - Almost What We Want In Our Rocket-Bus >>> > > > > ___ > psas-avionics mailing list > psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics > ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
Hey what's with all of the cute catchy names? Shouldent we be developing proposals for standards, and end up calling it something like PSAS_201.2 bus? Glenn Quoting rq1...@q7.com: Hmm, CandU (CAN and USB)? AWWWIOR - Almost What We Want In Our Rocket-Bus ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
Hmm, CandU (CAN and USB)? (2009.01.18) kirk...@pdx.edu: > AWWWIOR Bus... > > My concern is with the use of a serial bus topology that normally has > RTS, CTS, DSR, and CD pins; but we aren't going to use them? Will that > require special driver hacking to make the endpoints *not* require the > use of the other signals? How does the endpoint know when a signal is > coming in? Collisions? Error checking? > > Seriously, I can't imagine it would take Dave and I more than a day to > get CAN working on the TQM5200 once the toolchain is set up. Since > no-one has actually completed any of the other node designs, using the > LPC2368/78 has no affect on the rest of the work. > > If we need anything beyond USB on this rocket, let's use a bus designed > and industry proven for robust control. > > AWWWIOR - Almost What We Want In Our Rocket-Bus > > Cheers. ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
AWWWIOR Bus... My concern is with the use of a serial bus topology that normally has RTS, CTS, DSR, and CD pins; but we aren't going to use them? Will that require special driver hacking to make the endpoints *not* require the use of the other signals? How does the endpoint know when a signal is coming in? Collisions? Error checking? Seriously, I can't imagine it would take Dave and I more than a day to get CAN working on the TQM5200 once the toolchain is set up. Since no-one has actually completed any of the other node designs, using the LPC2368/78 has no affect on the rest of the work. If we need anything beyond USB on this rocket, let's use a bus designed and industry proven for robust control. AWWWIOR - Almost What We Want In Our Rocket-Bus Cheers. what about UOU: "universalway ocketray usbay" :) -d On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: OK, that *is* a terrible collision. But I just can't do "DRAB". It's too depressing. I guess we'll just have to come up with an *even more* terrible acronym. Maybe a backronum? "FAB" - Fantastic Avionics Bus.. no, collides with Fourth Ave. Building "STAB" - Supposedly Terrible Avionics Bus... no, too violent. ;) OK, how about just RocketBus? Andrew Sarah A Sharp wrote: Looking further at the diagrams, I would suggest it be called the "Dual Rocket Avionics Bus" (DRAB). You basically have two separate buses (USB and serial), so the name fits. What do you think? Sarah On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Sarah A Sharp wrote: You can't name it URB (Universal Rocket Bus). An URB is a USB Request Buffer in the Linux Kernel, and I will be very confused. Perhaps it should be the Distributed Avionics Bus (DAB) or Distributed Rocket Avionics Bus (DRAB). Sarah On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: It's new! It's shiny! It not great, but It Might Actually Work! http://psas.pdx.edu/news/2009-01-15/ We'll discuss this more this coming Tuesday. See you all then, Andrew -- --- Andrew Greenberg Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 --- ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics -- --- Andrew Greenberg Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 --- ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
what about UOU: "universalway ocketray usbay" :) -d On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: > OK, that *is* a terrible collision. But I just can't do "DRAB". It's too > depressing. I guess we'll just have to come up with an *even more* > terrible acronym. Maybe a backronum? > > "FAB" - Fantastic Avionics Bus.. no, collides with Fourth Ave. Building > "STAB" - Supposedly Terrible Avionics Bus... no, too violent. > > ;) > > OK, how about just RocketBus? > > Andrew > > Sarah A Sharp wrote: >> Looking further at the diagrams, I would suggest it be called the >> "Dual Rocket Avionics Bus" (DRAB). You basically have two separate >> buses (USB and serial), so the name fits. What do you think? >> >> Sarah >> >> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Sarah A Sharp >> wrote: >>> You can't name it URB (Universal Rocket Bus). An URB is a USB Request >>> Buffer in the Linux Kernel, and I will be very confused. Perhaps it >>> should be the Distributed Avionics Bus (DAB) or Distributed Rocket >>> Avionics Bus (DRAB). >>> >>> Sarah >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Andrew Greenberg >>> wrote: It's new! It's shiny! It not great, but It Might Actually Work! http://psas.pdx.edu/news/2009-01-15/ We'll discuss this more this coming Tuesday. See you all then, Andrew -- --- Andrew Greenberg Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 --- ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics >> >> > > -- > --- > Andrew Greenberg > > Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) > and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 > --- > > ___ > psas-avionics mailing list > psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics > ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
Rocket Universal Bus. --TimR --- On Sun, 1/18/09, Andrew Greenberg wrote: > From: Andrew Greenberg > Subject: Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"! > To: "Sarah A Sharp" > Cc: "psas-avionics" > Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 3:41 PM > OK, that *is* a terrible collision. But I just can't do > "DRAB". It's too > depressing. I guess we'll just have to come up with an > *even more* > terrible acronym. Maybe a backronum? > > "FAB" - Fantastic Avionics Bus.. no, collides > with Fourth Ave. Building > "STAB" - Supposedly Terrible Avionics Bus... no, > too violent. > > ;) > > OK, how about just RocketBus? > > Andrew > > Sarah A Sharp wrote: > > Looking further at the diagrams, I would suggest it be > called the > > "Dual Rocket Avionics Bus" (DRAB). You > basically have two separate > > buses (USB and serial), so the name fits. What do you > think? > > > > Sarah > > > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Sarah A Sharp > wrote: > >> You can't name it URB (Universal Rocket Bus). > An URB is a USB Request > >> Buffer in the Linux Kernel, and I will be very > confused. Perhaps it > >> should be the Distributed Avionics Bus (DAB) or > Distributed Rocket > >> Avionics Bus (DRAB). > >> > >> Sarah > >> > >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Andrew Greenberg > wrote: > >>> It's new! It's shiny! It not great, > but It Might Actually Work! > >>> > >>> http://psas.pdx.edu/news/2009-01-15/ > >>> > >>> We'll discuss this more this coming > Tuesday. > >>> > >>> See you all then, > >>> > >>> Andrew > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > --- > >>> Andrew Greenberg > >>> > >>> Portland State Aerospace Society > (http://psas.pdx.edu/) > >>> and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: > 503.708.7711 > >>> > --- > >>> > >>> > ___ > >>> psas-avionics mailing list > >>> psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu > >>> > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics > >>> > > > > > > -- > --- > Andrew Greenberg > > Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) > and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 > --- > > ___ > psas-avionics mailing list > psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
OK, that *is* a terrible collision. But I just can't do "DRAB". It's too depressing. I guess we'll just have to come up with an *even more* terrible acronym. Maybe a backronum? "FAB" - Fantastic Avionics Bus.. no, collides with Fourth Ave. Building "STAB" - Supposedly Terrible Avionics Bus... no, too violent. ;) OK, how about just RocketBus? Andrew Sarah A Sharp wrote: > Looking further at the diagrams, I would suggest it be called the > "Dual Rocket Avionics Bus" (DRAB). You basically have two separate > buses (USB and serial), so the name fits. What do you think? > > Sarah > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Sarah A Sharp wrote: >> You can't name it URB (Universal Rocket Bus). An URB is a USB Request >> Buffer in the Linux Kernel, and I will be very confused. Perhaps it >> should be the Distributed Avionics Bus (DAB) or Distributed Rocket >> Avionics Bus (DRAB). >> >> Sarah >> >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Andrew Greenberg >> wrote: >>> It's new! It's shiny! It not great, but It Might Actually Work! >>> >>> http://psas.pdx.edu/news/2009-01-15/ >>> >>> We'll discuss this more this coming Tuesday. >>> >>> See you all then, >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> -- >>> --- >>> Andrew Greenberg >>> >>> Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) >>> and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 >>> --- >>> >>> ___ >>> psas-avionics mailing list >>> psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu >>> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics >>> > > -- --- Andrew Greenberg Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 --- ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
Looking further at the diagrams, I would suggest it be called the "Dual Rocket Avionics Bus" (DRAB). You basically have two separate buses (USB and serial), so the name fits. What do you think? Sarah On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Sarah A Sharp wrote: > You can't name it URB (Universal Rocket Bus). An URB is a USB Request > Buffer in the Linux Kernel, and I will be very confused. Perhaps it > should be the Distributed Avionics Bus (DAB) or Distributed Rocket > Avionics Bus (DRAB). > > Sarah > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: >> It's new! It's shiny! It not great, but It Might Actually Work! >> >> http://psas.pdx.edu/news/2009-01-15/ >> >> We'll discuss this more this coming Tuesday. >> >> See you all then, >> >> Andrew >> >> -- >> --- >> Andrew Greenberg >> >> Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) >> and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 >> --- >> >> ___ >> psas-avionics mailing list >> psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics >> > ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
Re: [psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
You can't name it URB (Universal Rocket Bus). An URB is a USB Request Buffer in the Linux Kernel, and I will be very confused. Perhaps it should be the Distributed Avionics Bus (DAB) or Distributed Rocket Avionics Bus (DRAB). Sarah On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: > It's new! It's shiny! It not great, but It Might Actually Work! > > http://psas.pdx.edu/news/2009-01-15/ > > We'll discuss this more this coming Tuesday. > > See you all then, > > Andrew > > -- > --- > Andrew Greenberg > > Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) > and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 > --- > > ___ > psas-avionics mailing list > psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics > ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
[psas-avionics] Introducing the "Universal Rocket Bus"!
It's new! It's shiny! It not great, but It Might Actually Work! http://psas.pdx.edu/news/2009-01-15/ We'll discuss this more this coming Tuesday. See you all then, Andrew -- --- Andrew Greenberg Portland State Aerospace Society (http://psas.pdx.edu/) and...@psas.pdx.edu P: 503.788.1343 C: 503.708.7711 --- ___ psas-avionics mailing list psas-avionics@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-avionics
