Re: Plugins reset values
Matt, I am on PT 11.2, not 11.1.3, but I've not seen this, but then, I'm still going through your mixing module as there is just! so! much in there. I'm really! getting stuck with instantiating a compresser. No matter what I do, the vocals just seem to sound way way over compressed. I might later Dropbox you a session I did so when you get some time, you can look at how I did it and make some feedback on the sections I really need to go back over. Anyway, my point is, I've not seen this behavior, but as I said above, I'm still learning, so maybe it's happenning, but I'm just not noticing it. Most of what I do is in PT 10, but next time I fire up my PT 11, I'll take a look for ya. Chris. - Original Message - From: mcdiemert . mcdiem...@gmail.com To: ptaccess ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:20 AM Subject: Plugins reset values Hi all, Wondering if anyone has seen this behavior in PT 11. It just started yesterday, but it's maddening. Let's say before I ever listen to a track I just recorded, I instantiate a stock 7 band EQ. I know right off the bat, that I want a high pass so I turn the filter on, set it to 12 OCT, and move the slider from say 20 up to 90HZ. When I press play, those values revert meaning the HPF is now off, it's back to 6 OCT, and the slider goes back to 20. There is no automation on this track and to be sure I suspended all automation. It's happening on several PTX projects. I'd be curious if anyone has any thoughts. I'm running OSX 10.9.2 and PT 11.1.3 -- Warm Regards: Matt Diemert 330-980-0046 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Plugins for basses that work under Pro tools 10?
Have you tried PSA-1, it's one of the plugins that comes bundled. It's a pretty accurate emulation of the Sansamp rack hardware, and it's always served me well for bass. The first two albums I played on were just a decent DI into PSA-1, and the sounds are still holding up here a few years on. Does particularly well for grittier edgier sounds IMHO. The controls are all accessible and changeable without needing a control surface too. Hth Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a plugin for basses rather like 11free or something of that like that either comes with Pro tools 10 or that can be purchased and that sounds good? Any suggestions appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Plugins for basses that work under Pro tools 10?
I'll have to try that one out. I suppose it's under dynamics or something to that effect. /Krister 3 jul 2013 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com: Have you tried PSA-1, it's one of the plugins that comes bundled. It's a pretty accurate emulation of the Sansamp rack hardware, and it's always served me well for bass. The first two albums I played on were just a decent DI into PSA-1, and the sounds are still holding up here a few years on. Does particularly well for grittier edgier sounds IMHO. The controls are all accessible and changeable without needing a control surface too. Hth Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a plugin for basses rather like 11free or something of that like that either comes with Pro tools 10 or that can be purchased and that sounds good? Any suggestions appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Plugins for basses that work under Pro tools 10?
Agreed used it on bass as well. Try this as well. Duplicate the bass track and treat one as your clean bass track, then use a distortion or over drive on the duplicated track and blend in to taste. It wil probably be barely audible but could help the bass cut through the mix better. On 7/3/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried PSA-1, it's one of the plugins that comes bundled. It's a pretty accurate emulation of the Sansamp rack hardware, and it's always served me well for bass. The first two albums I played on were just a decent DI into PSA-1, and the sounds are still holding up here a few years on. Does particularly well for grittier edgier sounds IMHO. The controls are all accessible and changeable without needing a control surface too. Hth Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a plugin for basses rather like 11free or something of that like that either comes with Pro tools 10 or that can be purchased and that sounds good? Any suggestions appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Plugins for basses that work under Pro tools 10?
Got a feeling it used to live under Other. I could be wrong man, haven't used PT as my DAW for some time now. Still lurking here because I'd like to return to it one day. Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: I'll have to try that one out. I suppose it's under dynamics or something to that effect. /Krister 3 jul 2013 kl. 15:32 skrev Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com: Have you tried PSA-1, it's one of the plugins that comes bundled. It's a pretty accurate emulation of the Sansamp rack hardware, and it's always served me well for bass. The first two albums I played on were just a decent DI into PSA-1, and the sounds are still holding up here a few years on. Does particularly well for grittier edgier sounds IMHO. The controls are all accessible and changeable without needing a control surface too. Hth Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a plugin for basses rather like 11free or something of that like that either comes with Pro tools 10 or that can be purchased and that sounds good? Any suggestions appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Plugins for basses that work under Pro tools 10?
Hi guys, I'd love to test this plugin with my Shine Rickenbacker 4001 copy, only trouble is there's only a .aax native package and i can for the life of me not find a way to change this into rtas. I guess it's time for another cry for help.:-) lol /Krister 3 jul 2013 kl. 15:48 skrev Monkey Pusher: Agreed used it on bass as well. Try this as well. Duplicate the bass track and treat one as your clean bass track, then use a distortion or over drive on the duplicated track and blend in to taste. It wil probably be barely audible but could help the bass cut through the mix better. On 7/3/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried PSA-1, it's one of the plugins that comes bundled. It's a pretty accurate emulation of the Sansamp rack hardware, and it's always served me well for bass. The first two albums I played on were just a decent DI into PSA-1, and the sounds are still holding up here a few years on. Does particularly well for grittier edgier sounds IMHO. The controls are all accessible and changeable without needing a control surface too. Hth Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a plugin for basses rather like 11free or something of that like that either comes with Pro tools 10 or that can be purchased and that sounds good? Any suggestions appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Plugins for basses that work under Pro tools 10?
Hi Scott, Have you tried max base from waves? It can be bigger than life! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Yup, Monkey's tip is magic. Sometimes I'll even roll off a ton of low end on that duplicated track, because the cleaner original version will retain the low-end if you blend it correctly. Sounds counter productive to be rolling lows off a bass I know, but give it a go if you ever need to get really dirty without losing note definnition. It's a tough beast to tame is bass. Scott On 7/3/13, Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed used it on bass as well. Try this as well. Duplicate the bass track and treat one as your clean bass track, then use a distortion or over drive on the duplicated track and blend in to taste. It wil probably be barely audible but could help the bass cut through the mix better. On 7/3/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried PSA-1, it's one of the plugins that comes bundled. It's a pretty accurate emulation of the Sansamp rack hardware, and it's always served me well for bass. The first two albums I played on were just a decent DI into PSA-1, and the sounds are still holding up here a few years on. Does particularly well for grittier edgier sounds IMHO. The controls are all accessible and changeable without needing a control surface too. Hth Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a plugin for basses rather like 11free or something of that like that either comes with Pro tools 10 or that can be purchased and that sounds good? Any suggestions appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Plugins for basses that work under Pro tools 10?
Hey Chuck, Nope, haven't had the opportunity to take that for a spin yet man, but I'd like to. I'd also like to see what we can get out of CLA, seeing as I generally dig the bass in most stuff he mixes more than anything else. Scott On 7/3/13, CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, Have you tried max base from waves? It can be bigger than life! :) YMMV CHUCK REICHEL soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com www.SoundPictureRecording.com 954-742-0019 GUFFAWING :) In GOD I Trust On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: Yup, Monkey's tip is magic. Sometimes I'll even roll off a ton of low end on that duplicated track, because the cleaner original version will retain the low-end if you blend it correctly. Sounds counter productive to be rolling lows off a bass I know, but give it a go if you ever need to get really dirty without losing note definnition. It's a tough beast to tame is bass. Scott On 7/3/13, Monkey Pusher monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed used it on bass as well. Try this as well. Duplicate the bass track and treat one as your clean bass track, then use a distortion or over drive on the duplicated track and blend in to taste. It wil probably be barely audible but could help the bass cut through the mix better. On 7/3/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried PSA-1, it's one of the plugins that comes bundled. It's a pretty accurate emulation of the Sansamp rack hardware, and it's always served me well for bass. The first two albums I played on were just a decent DI into PSA-1, and the sounds are still holding up here a few years on. Does particularly well for grittier edgier sounds IMHO. The controls are all accessible and changeable without needing a control surface too. Hth Scott On 7/3/13, Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com wrote: Hello all, I'm wondering if there's such a thing as a plugin for basses rather like 11free or something of that like that either comes with Pro tools 10 or that can be purchased and that sounds good? Any suggestions appreciated. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: plugins/digi003
Thanks a million for that Slau, I'll update on any developments. -- From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 1:39 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 Yes, Brian, The hot spot feature is great. Keep in mind that it's persistent across boot-ups which is great. It's all based around the numbers row 1-9, maybe 0, I'm not sure. VO-Shift-(number) sets the hot spot while VO-(number takes you directly to the hot spot. VO-Command-(number) reads the value at the hot spot without taking you to it and VO-Command-Shift-(number) watches the hot spot. Now, Watching the hot spot is sort of new to me and I think it reports changes in the value on the fly but I don't know how well that works with Pro Tools. Some experimentation still needs to be done. Anyway, just a quick note to encourage you to experiment as well. Cheers, Slau On Nov 26, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Brian Casey wrote: Thanks Slau Chuck and Sean, this is helping me to iron out some thoughts for work flow. I'd forgotten about hot spots, which I must explore on VO regardless. I've a steep learning curve too because come next February in my Masters course I'll be attempting to programme simple synthesiser interfaces that will be VO friendly...if I make any grounds on that front I'll share anything I happen to develop with you guys, though it probably won't be ProTools related. Chuck, great to know your sharing my suffering with the focus on the plugin window,, and that I wasn't just going mad!! haha Brian. -- From: Sean A. Cummins seanacumm...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 9:11 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 Slau, And that is what Tim is working on. Smile! Sean - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 Hi Jon, VoiceOver doesn't automatically read selective items within a window. Imagine this: You have a window with 20 parameters being displayed among other things like a pop-up menu for insert, plug-in type, factory default, etc. When you change one of the 20 parameters by using the seventh encoder knob on the control surface which happens to coincide with the third parameter in the plug-in, well, you can imagine that such integral functionality can only be achieved through scripting of a screen reader or having a purpose-written application running in the background. What you can do, however, is use VoiceOver to go to each subsequent parameter while changing values and using VO-f3 to check the values. For that matter, it's almost just as easy, once you're on a parameter, to simply change it with VoiceOver. Where a control surface is truly fast and efficient, however, is when you get to know the plug-in you're working with and you can simply tweak an encoder knob to get the result you seek. Rather than worrying about the difference between a ratio of 2.5 to 1 versus 2.6 to 1, one can use the encoder knobs the way knobs have been used for decades on outboard gear and that's by ear. Of course, even with outboard gear, a blind user would need to acquaint themselves with the function of each knob, its range, etc. Using encoder knobs on a control surface is hardly different. The difference is in the consistency of getting the encoders to reflect the parameters rather than pan or send values but that's a matter of knowing one's control surface and being able to recreate steps consistently. Slau On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Jon Solitro wrote: How does one get VoiceOver to read what each knob does when in insert mode for a particular plugin on the 003?
Re: plugins/digi003
Hi John, as far as I know, this isn't possible...all I've been doing for the moment is changing a parameter on the 003 and then going back to see what changed with Voice over in the plugin window. Of course, that's a problem if Voice over can't look at areas of the plugin your using. going by ear is always a good way too of course. If anyone else can correct me on that I'd be delightedmaybe there is a way to get Voice over to give continuous feedback on a changing parameter. Also, a really basic thing I know, but I'm not used too Voice Over and the way it acts. If I go to say incert A on a track with Voice over, and bring up the pop up menu and incert an EQ for example, should the EQ window automatically open every time? It doesn't always for me. Then, further more, if I go up to the close button at the top of that plugin window if it does in fact open, and I come back to look at the incert I put in, I see the pop up menu for incert a, and if I go over again it says 'Incert a, 4 band EQ, window open' or whatever. If I then use the VO keys and space it should go into the plugin window open shouldn't it? Or am I missing something about how windows opporate in PT. All I've done beyond that so far really is cycle between mix and edit windows with command and plus. Cheers, and sorry for a long message, Brian. -- From: Jon Solitro soli...@msu.edu Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 4:23 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 How does one get VoiceOver to read what each knob does when in insert mode for a particular plugin on the 003?
Re: plugins
Hi Herman, I load each plugin preset 1 at a time to make sure that specific plugin preset parameters are being displayed in the plug window before saving.. This insures accuracy in recalling the exact preset with its specific parameter differences.. Talk soon On Nov 26, 2010, at 2:05 PM, Herman Fermin wrote: Can you save all the pre-sets at once or do you have to go through each one by one and save one by one? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Chuck Reichel soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Slau, I just took a deeper look at my waves plugs.. Using the control 24 of corse.. It seems all necessary values and mode / behavior buttons are displayed in the PT plug window.. The Load and save are not visible as of yet Waves calls this the WaveSystem toolbar They are aware of this so I highly recommend that EVERY BODY email waves and let them know also.. In fader flip mode I was jumping back and forth between the inserts for the audio tracks with the dedicated EQ and comp… buttons and it seemed to be responding rather well.. The trick with Waves is to get some sighted assistance and bring up the presets for each plug say the Rcomp for instance.. Once the preset is loaded just save it with the PT plug save menu and it becomes available in the plugin presets pull down including the waves full re set which did in deed reset the rcomp to its factory preset state very cool! What I was impressed with today was that the behavior modes for the waves plugs were changeable with the C24 faders.. So all you half to do after getting the presets in to the menu is to sit there with the controller and document the fader # and buttons and what it is related to in the PT plug window.. What would be nice for VoiceOver is to have a mode to realtime report the changes to save time querying the value display.. Talk soon On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: plugins/digi003
Hi Slau brian, I have been dealing with this same problem of VoiceOver loosing focus while inside a plugin for no apparent reason.. I constantly half to go to the window overview VO F2 and vo space on the plug window I was in.. may be there is a work around??? Using hot spots sometimes helps.. Speaking about hot spots I thought hot spots could monitor changes taking place at that hotspot?? As I said in a recent post Constantly queering the parameter change taking place is cumbersome, but I am glad we can now! LOL talk soon On Nov 26, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Hi brian, The plug-in window will always come up if you've instantiated a plug- in. What might be happening in your case is that, if you use Command- = to move to the Mix or Edit windows, the plug-in window won't automatically close and, having instantiated another plug-in on a different insert, the plug-in window will seem not to appear but that's because it's already opened but not gaining focus. Use VO-f2 twice to bring up the window menu to verify. Slau On Nov 26, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Brian Casey wrote: Hi John, as far as I know, this isn't possible...all I've been doing for the moment is changing a parameter on the 003 and then going back to see what changed with Voice over in the plugin window. Of course, that's a problem if Voice over can't look at areas of the plugin your using. going by ear is always a good way too of course. If anyone else can correct me on that I'd be delightedmaybe there is a way to get Voice over to give continuous feedback on a changing parameter. Also, a really basic thing I know, but I'm not used too Voice Over and the way it acts. If I go to say incert A on a track with Voice over, and bring up the pop up menu and incert an EQ for example, should the EQ window automatically open every time? It doesn't always for me. Then, further more, if I go up to the close button at the top of that plugin window if it does in fact open, and I come back to look at the incert I put in, I see the pop up menu for incert a, and if I go over again it says 'Incert a, 4 band EQ, window open' or whatever. If I then use the VO keys and space it should go into the plugin window open shouldn't it? Or am I missing something about how windows opporate in PT. All I've done beyond that so far really is cycle between mix and edit windows with command and plus. Cheers, and sorry for a long message, Brian. -- From: Jon Solitro soli...@msu.edu Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 4:23 PM To: Pro Tools Accessibility ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 How does one get VoiceOver to read what each knob does when in insert mode for a particular plugin on the 003? Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: plugins/digi003
Slau, And that is what Tim is working on. Smile! Sean - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 Hi Jon, VoiceOver doesn't automatically read selective items within a window. Imagine this: You have a window with 20 parameters being displayed among other things like a pop-up menu for insert, plug-in type, factory default, etc. When you change one of the 20 parameters by using the seventh encoder knob on the control surface which happens to coincide with the third parameter in the plug-in, well, you can imagine that such integral functionality can only be achieved through scripting of a screen reader or having a purpose-written application running in the background. What you can do, however, is use VoiceOver to go to each subsequent parameter while changing values and using VO-f3 to check the values. For that matter, it's almost just as easy, once you're on a parameter, to simply change it with VoiceOver. Where a control surface is truly fast and efficient, however, is when you get to know the plug-in you're working with and you can simply tweak an encoder knob to get the result you seek. Rather than worrying about the difference between a ratio of 2.5 to 1 versus 2.6 to 1, one can use the encoder knobs the way knobs have been used for decades on outboard gear and that's by ear. Of course, even with outboard gear, a blind user would need to acquaint themselves with the function of each knob, its range, etc. Using encoder knobs on a control surface is hardly different. The difference is in the consistency of getting the encoders to reflect the parameters rather than pan or send values but that's a matter of knowing one's control surface and being able to recreate steps consistently. Slau On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Jon Solitro wrote: How does one get VoiceOver to read what each knob does when in insert mode for a particular plugin on the 003?
Re: plugins/digi003
Thanks Slau Chuck and Sean, this is helping me to iron out some thoughts for work flow. I'd forgotten about hot spots, which I must explore on VO regardless. I've a steep learning curve too because come next February in my Masters course I'll be attempting to programme simple synthesiser interfaces that will be VO friendly...if I make any grounds on that front I'll share anything I happen to develop with you guys, though it probably won't be ProTools related. Chuck, great to know your sharing my suffering with the focus on the plugin window,, and that I wasn't just going mad!! haha Brian. -- From: Sean A. Cummins seanacumm...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 9:11 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 Slau, And that is what Tim is working on. Smile! Sean - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 Hi Jon, VoiceOver doesn't automatically read selective items within a window. Imagine this: You have a window with 20 parameters being displayed among other things like a pop-up menu for insert, plug-in type, factory default, etc. When you change one of the 20 parameters by using the seventh encoder knob on the control surface which happens to coincide with the third parameter in the plug-in, well, you can imagine that such integral functionality can only be achieved through scripting of a screen reader or having a purpose-written application running in the background. What you can do, however, is use VoiceOver to go to each subsequent parameter while changing values and using VO-f3 to check the values. For that matter, it's almost just as easy, once you're on a parameter, to simply change it with VoiceOver. Where a control surface is truly fast and efficient, however, is when you get to know the plug-in you're working with and you can simply tweak an encoder knob to get the result you seek. Rather than worrying about the difference between a ratio of 2.5 to 1 versus 2.6 to 1, one can use the encoder knobs the way knobs have been used for decades on outboard gear and that's by ear. Of course, even with outboard gear, a blind user would need to acquaint themselves with the function of each knob, its range, etc. Using encoder knobs on a control surface is hardly different. The difference is in the consistency of getting the encoders to reflect the parameters rather than pan or send values but that's a matter of knowing one's control surface and being able to recreate steps consistently. Slau On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Jon Solitro wrote: How does one get VoiceOver to read what each knob does when in insert mode for a particular plugin on the 003?
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Indeed, that's a fabulous project and a wonderful one at that! Keep us posted on the list, of course. Slau On Nov 26, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Sean A. Cummins wrote: Slau, And that is what Tim is working on. Smile! Sean - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: plugins/digi003 Hi Jon, VoiceOver doesn't automatically read selective items within a window. Imagine this: You have a window with 20 parameters being displayed among other things like a pop-up menu for insert, plug-in type, factory default, etc. When you change one of the 20 parameters by using the seventh encoder knob on the control surface which happens to coincide with the third parameter in the plug-in, well, you can imagine that such integral functionality can only be achieved through scripting of a screen reader or having a purpose-written application running in the background. What you can do, however, is use VoiceOver to go to each subsequent parameter while changing values and using VO-f3 to check the values. For that matter, it's almost just as easy, once you're on a parameter, to simply change it with VoiceOver. Where a control surface is truly fast and efficient, however, is when you get to know the plug-in you're working with and you can simply tweak an encoder knob to get the result you seek. Rather than worrying about the difference between a ratio of 2.5 to 1 versus 2.6 to 1, one can use the encoder knobs the way knobs have been used for decades on outboard gear and that's by ear. Of course, even with outboard gear, a blind user would need to acquaint themselves with the function of each knob, its range, etc. Using encoder knobs on a control surface is hardly different. The difference is in the consistency of getting the encoders to reflect the parameters rather than pan or send values but that's a matter of knowing one's control surface and being able to recreate steps consistently. Slau On Nov 26, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Jon Solitro wrote: How does one get VoiceOver to read what each knob does when in insert mode for a particular plugin on the 003?
Re: plugins/digi003
Hey Herman, Just a quick note about Fader Flip mode. It'll only really work after the plug-in parameters are displayed along the encoder knobs. In other words, if what's being displayed are pan settings or inserts, there's nothing to flip to the faders in terms of parameter values. Once the parameters such as gain, threshold, ratio, etc. have popped up across the encoder knobs, pressing the flip button will throw the faders into the mode where they display the corresponding values. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Herman Fermin wrote: Along those lines, I have been able to use the Waves GTR successfully by manipulating the parameters via the control surface which is great. What I don't understand and I'm hoping that someone else has the digi003 to see if I'm missing something. In order to get the digi003 to put the parameters on the rotary knobs, 1. press the insert button to be in insert view 2. press the insert that corresponds to what you want 3. Press the channel select that has the plug-in you want to control Now the rotary knobs above the select channel buttons should be ready for you to tweak. Except that I seem to have to go through the process twice in order to get the knobs to work. The only step I didn't include here was the fader flip because that only happens once. HF On 11/22/10, Frank Carmickle fr...@carmickle.com wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
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Ah, yes, of course, naturally. I mean, there would be no parameters to flip if there weren't a plug-in there to begin with, eh? :) Slau On Nov 25, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Herman Fermin wrote: Do you have to put it in insert mode first. That sounds too damn easy... On 11/25/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's exactly the process, although it's a little different on the Control|24 since there are dedicated insert buttons on each channel, thus eliminating the final step in your scenario. In the case of the Control|24, it's more like: 1. Press Insert on desired track 2. Press specific insert slot (that is, a, b, c, etc.). The encoders now display that insert's parameters. Slau On Nov 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Herman Fermin wrote: What I'm having a problem understanding is why I have to do the process twice in order for the parameters to be active in the rotary knob. So I think I'm missing something. If it helps 1. Pres insert 2. Press which insert you are using, (E.G. a) 3. Press channel where insert is Now the plug-in window should appear and you should be able to use the rotary knobs for the plug-in. HF On 11/25/10, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Herman, Just a quick note about Fader Flip mode. It'll only really work after the plug-in parameters are displayed along the encoder knobs. In other words, if what's being displayed are pan settings or inserts, there's nothing to flip to the faders in terms of parameter values. Once the parameters such as gain, threshold, ratio, etc. have popped up across the encoder knobs, pressing the flip button will throw the faders into the mode where they display the corresponding values. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Herman Fermin wrote: Along those lines, I have been able to use the Waves GTR successfully by manipulating the parameters via the control surface which is great. What I don't understand and I'm hoping that someone else has the digi003 to see if I'm missing something. In order to get the digi003 to put the parameters on the rotary knobs, 1. press the insert button to be in insert view 2. press the insert that corresponds to what you want 3. Press the channel select that has the plug-in you want to control Now the rotary knobs above the select channel buttons should be ready for you to tweak. Except that I seem to have to go through the process twice in order to get the knobs to work. The only step I didn't include here was the fader flip because that only happens once. HF On 11/22/10, Frank Carmickle fr...@carmickle.com wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
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All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
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Hey Slau. On the topic of plug ins, would a waves bundle be a wise investment if one is using a control surface? Or, would you recommend another company? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:28 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
RE: waves, was RE: plugins
Hi. ah, okay, fantastic. I wanted to make sure that the auto mapping would happen with the MCU as well as with the digi/avid surfaces. Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:51 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins Waves stuff is, of course, great and, with a control surface, it's possible to access parameters. Fader flip mode is essential in this case. Something like the Digi 003 works. I've heard that the Mackie Universal supposedly has this feature but I 'm not certain. Apparently the HUI had it and so did the JL Cooper surfaces. At any rate, yeah, their stuff is obviously fabulous but with a commensurate price tag, as you know. Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Cameron wrote: Hey Slau. On the topic of plug ins, would a waves bundle be a wise investment if one is using a control surface? Or, would you recommend another company? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:28 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
Re: waves, was RE: plugins
Hi Cameron, I never do a session with out using my trusty Waves plugs! Talk soon On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Cameron wrote: Hey Slau. On the topic of plug ins, would a waves bundle be a wise investment if one is using a control surface? Or, would you recommend another company? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:28 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
Re: waves, was RE: plugins
You can change channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, but not the effects on any patches. Plus we dont have access to pre-sets as far as I can tell. I would have to have someone load up a pretty heavy-duty pre-sets with lots of effects to see if I could move those. I'd like to think that you might be able to simply because some of those might be automatable. Will report back if I can get someone to load some up. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hi Herman. ah, yeah, I was reading about the gtr3 and gtr solo plugs. what things can you access? Can you change things like channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, and the effects on a given patch? I already have the Digi 11 rack but another guitar option might be good to have. I just bought the waves native power pack bundle today and that will be a good foundation along with the included plugs in pt9 for now at least. Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:45 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins All the Waves plugs I've tried are automapped. Some things you can't get too as of yet because since as what was explained, they are not automatable. Great example would be some of the stomps in the GTR plug. Heck even the Waves Vocal plug-in is usable. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hey Slau. On the topic of plug ins, would a waves bundle be a wise investment if one is using a control surface? Or, would you recommend another company? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:28 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
RE: waves, was RE: plugins
Hey herman. That is good news, thanks for passing it along. So the preset list is not a standard combo box like it is when you load a waves plug in in sonar? Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:00 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins You can change channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, but not the effects on any patches. Plus we dont have access to pre-sets as far as I can tell. I would have to have someone load up a pretty heavy-duty pre-sets with lots of effects to see if I could move those. I'd like to think that you might be able to simply because some of those might be automatable. Will report back if I can get someone to load some up. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hi Herman. ah, yeah, I was reading about the gtr3 and gtr solo plugs. what things can you access? Can you change things like channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, and the effects on a given patch? I already have the Digi 11 rack but another guitar option might be good to have. I just bought the waves native power pack bundle today and that will be a good foundation along with the included plugs in pt9 for now at least. Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:45 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins All the Waves plugs I've tried are automapped. Some things you can't get too as of yet because since as what was explained, they are not automatable. Great example would be some of the stomps in the GTR plug. Heck even the Waves Vocal plug-in is usable. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hey Slau. On the topic of plug ins, would a waves bundle be a wise investment if one is using a control surface? Or, would you recommend another company? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:28 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
Re: waves, was RE: plugins
Waves uses their proprietary menu buttons which appear below the Pro Tools Factory Preset, Auto and Auto Safe buttons. These aren't technically part of the Coco portion of the plug-in window and so, are not visible, on top of not being automate-able parameters. It is possible, with sighted assistance, to call up a preset and save it to the Factory Presets menu. It's time-consuming but possible. QuicKeys would be a great tool to utilize in this case but also requires sighted assistance, that is, until someone writes some shorcut bundles that can be shared. Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Cameron wrote: Hey herman. That is good news, thanks for passing it along. So the preset list is not a standard combo box like it is when you load a waves plug in in sonar? Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:00 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins You can change channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, but not the effects on any patches. Plus we dont have access to pre-sets as far as I can tell. I would have to have someone load up a pretty heavy-duty pre-sets with lots of effects to see if I could move those. I'd like to think that you might be able to simply because some of those might be automatable. Will report back if I can get someone to load some up. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hi Herman. ah, yeah, I was reading about the gtr3 and gtr solo plugs. what things can you access? Can you change things like channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, and the effects on a given patch? I already have the Digi 11 rack but another guitar option might be good to have. I just bought the waves native power pack bundle today and that will be a good foundation along with the included plugs in pt9 for now at least. Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:45 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins All the Waves plugs I've tried are automapped. Some things you can't get too as of yet because since as what was explained, they are not automatable. Great example would be some of the stomps in the GTR plug. Heck even the Waves Vocal plug-in is usable. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hey Slau. On the topic of plug ins, would a waves bundle be a wise investment if one is using a control surface? Or, would you recommend another company? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:28 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
RE: waves, was RE: plugins
Hey Slau. Okay, thanks for the explanation. That would be a good idea to eventually have a repository of macro files to get to the presets of common plugs. Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:02 AM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins Waves uses their proprietary menu buttons which appear below the Pro Tools Factory Preset, Auto and Auto Safe buttons. These aren't technically part of the Coco portion of the plug-in window and so, are not visible, on top of not being automate-able parameters. It is possible, with sighted assistance, to call up a preset and save it to the Factory Presets menu. It's time-consuming but possible. QuicKeys would be a great tool to utilize in this case but also requires sighted assistance, that is, until someone writes some shorcut bundles that can be shared. Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Cameron wrote: Hey herman. That is good news, thanks for passing it along. So the preset list is not a standard combo box like it is when you load a waves plug in in sonar? Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:00 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins You can change channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, but not the effects on any patches. Plus we dont have access to pre-sets as far as I can tell. I would have to have someone load up a pretty heavy-duty pre-sets with lots of effects to see if I could move those. I'd like to think that you might be able to simply because some of those might be automatable. Will report back if I can get someone to load some up. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hi Herman. ah, yeah, I was reading about the gtr3 and gtr solo plugs. what things can you access? Can you change things like channel, head, cabinet, eq, presence, and the effects on a given patch? I already have the Digi 11 rack but another guitar option might be good to have. I just bought the waves native power pack bundle today and that will be a good foundation along with the included plugs in pt9 for now at least. Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman Fermin Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 8:45 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: waves, was RE: plugins All the Waves plugs I've tried are automapped. Some things you can't get too as of yet because since as what was explained, they are not automatable. Great example would be some of the stomps in the GTR plug. Heck even the Waves Vocal plug-in is usable. HF On 11/22/10, Cameron came...@cameronstrife.com wrote: Hey Slau. On the topic of plug ins, would a waves bundle be a wise investment if one is using a control surface? Or, would you recommend another company? Thanks, Cameron. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptacc...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:28 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: plugins All plug-ins which have automate-able parameters are accessible in the sense that the parameters are visible to voiceOver as sliders. The odd exception apparently seems to be Waves at this time but I can't personally confirm the behavior. What will not be accessible are any menu buttons specific to the plug-in. For example, Waves has Load and Save buttons which are not visible because they're not automate-able. Most basic eQs and compressors don't use proprietary buttons. HTH, Slau On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Frank Carmickle wrote: Hi everyone I am looking to get some other EQs comps and verbs. What are the accessible ones at this time? I've been mixing this little four track demo that I recorded on a zoom h4n a month ago and the drums are really harsh. I just put the h4n in front of the drum kit. I'm looking for a plugin that can help me smooth out some of the 4.5k crunch. If I use the four band that comes with pro tools to pull down that area and thicken the bottom iI find it gets really smiley really quick. I just want to soften the edge on the snare and the cymbals. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks much --Frank
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Yeah, there are a bunch of free plug-ins but I'm not sure of where the best centrally located place is to find them. I'll ask around. Slau On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:17 AM, clarence griffin wrote: I have to ask this. Are there any free plugins for pro tools. And if not, where can I find ones to buy? I know that isitope or what ever they are called has some, I am going to look for those as well. GF
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Thanks. I want to get the most out of this thing. I really am not trying to have 500 different compressers and 1234 different reverbs, I just want to be able to sift threw and see what works for me. GF On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Slau Halatyn wrote: Yeah, there are a bunch of free plug-ins but I'm not sure of where the best centrally located place is to find them. I'll ask around. Slau On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:17 AM, clarence griffin wrote: I have to ask this. Are there any free plugins for pro tools. And if not, where can I find ones to buy? I know that isitope or what ever they are called has some, I am going to look for those as well. GF
