[Bug 24349] [imports]: Import documents should always be in no-quirks mode

2014-02-13 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24349 Anne ann...@annevk.nl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: Until we can agree on this, Type 2 feels like an attractive nuisance and, on reflection, one that I think we should punt to compilers like caja in the interim. If toolkits need it, I'd like to understand those

[Bug 13913] Attributes don't have an order

2014-02-13 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13913 Bug 13913 depends on bug 13912, which changed state. Bug 13912 Summary: What order are attributes in? https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13912 What|Removed |Added

[testing] Using labels to get a list of all open PRs for WebApps' test suites

2014-02-13 Thread Arthur Barstow
[ Bcc public-webapps-testuite ] Thanks to Dom and Tobie, [w-p-t] PRs are automatically tagged with WG identifiers (pattern is wg-WGname f.ex. wg-webapps). This means there is an easy way to get a list of the open PRs for WebApp's tests:

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 2/13/14 5:35 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Also, Type 2 can be used for built-in elements Built-in elements need Type 4. -Boris

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: Until we can agree on this, Type 2 feels like an attractive nuisance and, on reflection, one that I think we should punt to compilers like caja

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: Until we can agree on this, Type 2 feels like an attractive nuisance and, on reflection, one that I think we should punt to compilers like

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Anne van Kesteren wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: Until we can agree on this, Type 2 feels like an attractive nuisance and, on reflection, one that I think we should punt to compilers like caja in the interim. If toolkits need it, I'd like

[webcomponents]: Web Components in 2014

2014-02-13 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Hello public-webapps! As promised, here's the plans and expectations summary for the Web Components spec umbrella. Apologies for taking so long. == Web Components Explainer == Current Editor: domin...@google.com Status: Non-normative document The explainer is continually updated to reflect the

[Bug 24349] [imports]: Import documents should always be in no-quirks mode

2014-02-13 Thread bugzilla
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24349 Morrita Hajime morr...@google.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Maciej Stachowiak wrote: Type 2 is not meant to be a security mechanism. It is meant to be an encapsulation mechanism. Let me give a comparison. Many JavaScript programmers choose to use closures as a way to store private data for objects. That is an encapsulation mechanism. It is not, in

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Alex Russell
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Feb 12, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: In discussion with Elliot and Erik, there appears to be an additional complication: any of the DOM manipulation methods that aren't locked down

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Charles McCathie Nevile
Tab, On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:09:33 +0100, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com Until we can agree on this, Type 2 feels like an attractive nuisance

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Charles McCathie Nevile cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote: On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 19:09:33 +0100, Tab Atkins Jr. jackalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:35 AM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Alex Russell

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Maciej Stachowiak
On Feb 13, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Feb 12, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: In discussion with Elliot and Erik, there appears to be an

Re: Why can't we just use constructor instead of createdCallback?

2014-02-13 Thread Jonas Sicking
Dimitri, I'd still love to hear feedback from you on the idea above. Seems like it could fix one of the design issues that a lot of people have reacted to. / Jonas On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:27 PM, Boris Zbarsky

Re: Why can't we just use constructor instead of createdCallback?

2014-02-13 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
We (Apple) support this proposal assuming that we can implement the proposed algorithm efficiently. We would try to prototype it in WebKit in the coming months and will report implementation issues, including the feasibility of efficient implementation, if exists. - R. Niwa On Feb 13, 2014,

Re: [webcomponents] Encapsulation and defaulting to open vs closed (was in www-style)

2014-02-13 Thread Ryosuke Niwa
On Feb 13, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Maciej Stachowiak m...@apple.com wrote: On Feb 12, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Alex Russell slightly...@google.com wrote: It is meant to be an encapsulation mechanism. Let me give a comparison. Many