On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
With this understanding, and having not noticed any objections to Aryeh's
proposal, I think we should consider Aryeh's proposal as accepted.
Thank you. I've updated the spec and will use this list accordingly
in the
Hi Aryeh, All - Aryeh's response below clarifies my last question about
the relationship between the HTML Editing APIs CG and WebApps.
I think the main points are:
* The members of the HTML Editing APIs CG do not think the HTML Editing
APIs spec is ready for Recommendation track (and I don't
We're commenting on Aryeh's spec, he's the author, the copyright holder,
and our comments to do not entitle us to any form of attribution.
Expanded:
For the sake of Aryeh's copyright on the working document, I'd like to
remind everyone again, that their comments on the document will be
On 9/19/11 1:56 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
Since you are the Chair of the HTML Editing APIs CG [CG], would you please
explain what you see as the relationship between the CG and WebApps
vis-à-vis the Editing spec? In
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
It seems to me, that by virtue of using public-webapps, it does give WebApps
WG a role e.g. to at least comment on the CG's editing spec. [Whether such a
role is official or not is probably just splitting hairs.]
I
On 9/22/2011 9:43 AM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
Is there consensus within the CG to not move the spec to the REC track?
The spec is in the public domain and anyone can theoretically submit
it to the REC track, so consensus
Thanks for your clarifications Aryeh. One follow-up below re
contributions to the Editing spec ...
On 9/22/11 12:43 PM, ext Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
It seems to me, that by virtue of using public-webapps, it does give
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
Does it have to be an either-or situation? Given that there are pressures to
publish in REC, to have a version which follows various procedures, it seems
plausible that the two can coexist.
That's true, but there's no
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
It appears you are intentionally using comments here to differentiate
contributions. Is that right?
Right.
I ask because, as I understand the CG process: before a person can make a
contribution to a CG spec, they
Aryeh - coming back to your question below ...
Since you are the Chair of the HTML Editing APIs CG [CG], would you
please explain what you see as the relationship between the CG and
WebApps vis-à-vis the Editing spec? In particular, what role(s) do the
CG and WG have?
For example [1]
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 18:48:04 +0200, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com
wrote:
Aryeh - coming back to your question below ...
Since you are the Chair of the HTML Editing APIs CG [CG], would you
please explain what you see as the relationship between the CG and
WebApps vis-à-vis the
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
Aryeh - coming back to your question below ...
Since you are the Chair of the HTML Editing APIs CG [CG], would you please
explain what you see as the relationship between the CG and WebApps
vis-à-vis the Editing
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
Since you are the Chair of the HTML Editing APIs CG [CG], would you please
explain what you see as the relationship between the CG and WebApps
vis-à-vis the Editing spec? In particular, what role(s) do the CG and WG
On 9/15/2011 1:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
Apple, Google and Microsoft representatives have vetoed rich text editing as
a supported use case for public-canvas-api, the Google/WHATWG editing
specification is now the -only- supported solution for developers to author
editing environments.
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
Yes, you have a public domain document, and yes, you're likely in the same
boat as Tab Atkins:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011JulSep/1265.html
The editor is the *lowest* level in the hierarchy of
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com wrote:
I don't think it's malicious. But, Google has unprecedented control over
these W3C specs.
They are absolutely using that control to benefit their priorities.
Google has exercised no control over my spec. I've written it
Hi All,
This thread has taken a few twists and turns and is now relatively far
from Aryeh's original question of Does anyone object to public-webapps
being used to discuss the HTML Editing spec?. I will start a separate
RfC or CfC on that specific question.
In the meantime, if you want to
Hi, Charles-
I understand that it is frustrating to butt heads with a set of people
who all share similar perspective and priorities, if you do not share
those particular views.
However, I don't think it's productive to impute that a specific company
is pushing their agenda, or blocking
Apologies to Tab and Aryeh,
I did not mean to suggest that they, nor their employer, have any bad
intent in the specs process.
I have no doubt, that they have the best of intentions.
-Charles
On 9/16/11 12:06 PM, Doug Schepers wrote:
Hi, Charles-
I understand that it is frustrating to
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 06:31:40 +0200, Charles Pritchard ch...@jumis.com
wrote:
[...]
A Community Group means publishing it through the W3C. He's also asking it
to be discussed on a W3C mailing list. This list. Compared to Aryeh's
draft the specification that was in HTML before is
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
Since some related functionality was included (at one point) in the HTML5
spec, it seems like we should ask the HTML WG for feedback on Aryeh's email.
Aryeh told me there are some related bugs:
On 9/15/2011 1:26 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Arthur Barstowart.bars...@nokia.com wrote:
Since some related functionality was included (at one point) in the HTML5
spec, it seems like we should ask the HTML WG for feedback on Aryeh's email.
Aryeh told me there are
Since some related functionality was included (at one point) in the
HTML5 spec, it seems like we should ask the HTML WG for feedback on
Aryeh's email.
Aryeh told me there are some related bugs:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13423
On 9/14/11 4:30 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
Since some related functionality was included (at one point) in the
HTML5 spec, it seems like we should ask the HTML WG for feedback on
Aryeh's email.
Aryeh told me there are some related bugs:
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13423
I think it's a great idea to get your spec more attention in W3C community
specially because some UA vendors don't participate in discussions on
whatwg.
- Ryosuke
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Aryeh Gregor a...@aryeh.name wrote:
For the last several months, I was working on a new
I support this.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Ryosuke Niwa rn...@webkit.org wrote:
I think it's a great idea to get your spec more attention in W3C community
specially because some UA vendors don't participate in discussions on
whatwg.
- Ryosuke
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Aryeh
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